{"id":4249,"date":"2007-11-29T11:52:15","date_gmt":"2007-11-29T18:52:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cherscholar.com\/cherblog\/tv-land-greates\/"},"modified":"2023-02-20T08:43:53","modified_gmt":"2023-02-20T15:43:53","slug":"tv-land-greates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cherscholar.com\/cherblog\/2007\/11\/tv-land-greates\/","title":{"rendered":"TV Land Greatest TV Icons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cherscholar.typepad.com\/.shared\/image.html?\/photos\/uncategorized\/2007\/11\/29\/cherbodies.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Cherbodies\" height=\"156\" alt=\"Cherbodies\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cherscholar.com\/cherblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/cherbodies.jpg?resize=200%2C156&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"200\" border=\"0\" style=\"FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px\" \/><\/a> I\u2019m gonna be sporadic with my blog postings in December. Which sucks because I have LOTS to talk about, a veritable backlog of Cher-chat to share. People have been sending me really good Cher stuff I must say: a critical USC analysis of the Bono marriage marketing plan and a DVD full of 60s S&amp;C performances to discuss. But life happens. My ceramics class is ending (much to do) and I just found out I\u2019ll need to move this month (due to rehabbing that will be done to our apartment building), plus I have company in town this weekend and Christmas on the horizon. But stay tuned. <\/p>\n<p>Today I just want to say how disgusted I am with <em>Entertainment Weekly<\/em> and <em>TV Land\u2019s<\/em> list of 100 Greatest TV Icons. The list is breathtakingly disorganized and illogical and Cher is ridiculously low in its rankings. At&nbsp; the turn of the millennium, Cher ended up on many best-of entertainment lists. I felt her rankings were usually fair \u2013 even if they weren\u2019t top 30. The fact that she made a music list here or there at all was a good sign of things to come. But on the television list, Cher should have been ranked much higher, in the top 50 at least. <em>Entertainment Weekly<\/em> and <em>TV Land<\/em> didn\u2019t even bother to discuss the bottom 50 in the magazine or TV special. So annoying. <\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s the list. I\u2019m fine with the top ten but I\u2019ve noted rankings that warranted extra comment.<\/p>\n<p>100. Marcia Cross <br \/>99. Delta Burke <br \/>98. Meredith Baxter <br \/>97. In Living Color cast <br \/>96. Shannen Doherty \u2013 <strong>give me a break<\/strong><br \/>95. Richard Dawson <br \/>94. Melissa Gilbert <br \/>93. Neil Patrick Harris \u2013 <strong>come ON<\/strong><br \/>92. Judge Judy <br \/>91. Dennis Franz <br \/>90. John Stamos \u2013 <strong>why is he even on this list?<\/strong><br \/>89. Robert Guillaume <br \/>88. Gavin MacLeod<br \/>87. Phil Hartman <br \/>86. Jerry Mathers <br \/>85. Rod Serling <br \/>84. Cartman from &quot;South Park&quot; <br \/>83. Isabel Sanford <br \/>82. Ted Knight <br \/>81. Dick Cavett <br \/>80. Adam West <br \/>79. Angela Landsbury <br \/>78. Art Carney <br \/>77. James Garner <br \/>76. Candice Bergen<br \/>75. Peter Falk <br \/>74. Joan Rivers <br \/>73. Tony Danza <br \/>72. Cher \u2013 <strong>travesty of justice<\/strong><br \/>71. Rosie O&#8217;Donnell \u2013 <strong>sure she\u2019s making a stir now but I predict she will not have such long-term impact. She is not in the league of Phil Donahue or Oprah and <em>The View<\/em> fiasco will soon be just a Hollywood footnote.<\/strong><br \/>70. Bob Denver&nbsp; &#8211; <strong>Gilligan maybe; Bob no.<br \/><\/strong>69. Barbara Eden \u2013 <strong>Genie maybe<\/strong><br \/>68. Don Cornelius <br \/>67. Tom Selleck <br \/>66. Kelsey Grammer \u2013 <strong>great sitcom actor among other great sitcom actors. He shouldn\u2019t be higher than Ted Knight.<br \/><\/strong>65. Pamela Anderson \u2013 <strong>you\u2019re kidding me with this<\/strong><br \/>64. Phil Donahue <br \/>63. Ed Asner \u2013 <strong>an no Chloris Leachman??<\/strong><br \/>62. Redd Foxx <br \/>61. Pee Wee Herman \u2013 <strong>should be toward the bottom of the list<\/strong><br \/>60. Merv Griffin <br \/>59. Ted Danson \u2013 <strong>see Kelsy Grammer<br \/><\/strong>58. Don Knotts <br \/>57. Charlie Brown <br \/>56. Betty White \u2013 <strong>and no Chloris Leachman??<\/strong><br \/>55. Fred Rogers \u2013 <strong>should be way higher<\/strong><br \/>54. Florence Henderson <br \/>53. Ed McMahon \u2013 <strong>if he\u2019s here, Jerry Lewis should be here and who wants that?<\/strong><br \/>52. Ron Howard \u2013 <strong>Opie maybe<\/strong><br \/>51. Bob Hope<br \/>50. Larry Hagman \u2013 <strong>see Kelsey Grammer<\/strong><br \/>49. Calista Flockhart \u2013 <strong>I bang my head against my keyboard on this one<\/strong><br \/>48. Jimmy Smits \u2013 <strong>this list is totally un-credible now<\/strong><br \/>47. Simon Cowell <br \/>46. Lassie <br \/>45. Sarah Michelle Gellar \u2013<strong> 90s star; wont last another 10 years I predict<\/strong><br \/>44. Susan Lucci <br \/>43. Flip Wilson <br \/>42. James Gandolfini \u2013 <strong>his longevity is possible but remains to be seen<\/strong><br \/>41. Jon Stewart <br \/>40. Sally Field <br \/>39. Jennifer Aniston \u2013 <strong>see Kelsey Grammer<\/strong><br \/>38. Bea Arthur &#8211; <strong>see Kelsey Grammer<\/strong><br \/>37. George Clooney \u2013 <strong>for Facts of Life???<\/strong> <br \/>36. Diahann Carroll <br \/>35. Michael J. Fox <br \/>34. Bob Barker <br \/>33. Ellen DeGeneres \u2013 <strong>fascinating but no icon yet she isn\u2019t<\/strong><br \/>32. Henry Winkler <br \/>31. Sarah Jessica Parker \u2013 <strong>see Kelsey Grammer<\/strong><br \/>30. Alan Alda <br \/>29. John Ritter \u2013 <strong>I always liked John Ritter but I\u2019m amazed he made it this high\u2026could barely get a good gig while he was alive<br \/><\/strong>28. Howard Cosell <br \/>27. Regis Philbin <br \/>26. Farrah Fawcett <br \/>25. Heather Locklear <br \/>24. Michael Landon <br \/>23. Barbara Walters <br \/>22. Milton Berle <br \/>21. Kermit&nbsp; <br \/>20. Carroll O&#8217;Connor <br \/>19. Andy Griffith <br \/>18. William Shatner <br \/>17. Bob Newhart <br \/>16. David Letterman <br \/>15. &quot;Not Ready for Primetime Players&quot; \u2013 <strong>have sucked longer than they rocked<\/strong><br \/>14. Ed Sullivan <br \/>13. Jackie Gleason <br \/>12. Dick Van Dyke<br \/>10. Dick Clark <br \/>9. Homer Simpson <br \/>8. Jerry Seinfeld <br \/>7. Mary Tyler Moore <br \/>6. Carol Burnett <br \/>5. Walter Cronkite <br \/>4. Bill Cosby \u2013 <strong>love and respect his comedy albums (didn&#8217;t hate the <em>Cosby Show<\/em> but shouldn\u2019t be so high for his 2 television shows; stand-up maybe; if this list is trying to be affirmative action, he still should be higher than Flip Wilson. I&#8217;m willing to discuss this one though; did he pave the way for more African American programming? Or did he just end up sending them all to the WB? <br \/><\/strong>3. Oprah Winfrey <br \/>2. Lucille Ball <br \/>1. Johnny Carson<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s the atrocious list. Here is a sketch of my alternate rankings<\/p>\n<p>1. Johnny Carson &#8211; <strong>dork but okay \u2013 he\u2019s Mr. Television<\/strong><br \/>2. Lucy&nbsp; &#8211; <strong>and Desi \u2013 stupid to leave off Desi when many of the I Love Lucy conventions were his ideas<\/strong><br \/>3. Oprah \u2013 <strong>has virtual control over our souls<br \/><\/strong>4. Phil Donahue \u2013 <strong>father of the talk show<\/strong><br \/>5. Walter Cronkite<br \/>6. Carol O\u2019 Connor \u2013 <strong>redefined acceptable sitcom characters<\/strong><br \/>7. Ed Sullivan \u2013 <strong>father of variety<\/strong><br \/>8. Kermit &#8211; <strong>symbol of children\u2019s television programming<\/strong> <br \/>9. Milton Berle &#8211; \u2013 <strong>hate him but he\u2019s a TV pioneer<\/strong> <br \/>10. Barbara Walters &#8211; <strong>ick but you think of woman reporter on TV and there she is<\/strong><br \/>11. Homer \u2013 <strong>longest running television show<\/strong><br \/>12. Jackie Gleason \u2013 <strong>helped define TV sitcoms<\/strong><br \/>13. Dick Clark \u2013 <strong>helped define half-hour music programming<\/strong><br \/>14. Bob Barker \u2013 <strong>the face of game shows<\/strong><br \/>15. Howard Cosell \u2013 <strong>the face of sports<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Basically, the top 20 should be for the ultimate TV pioneers or those who symbolize a genre of television.<\/p>\n<p>The 20-30 range should be for landmark shows: Roseanne, Mary Tyler Moore, Carol Burnett, Dick Van Dyke represent the classic show. <\/p>\n<p>The 30-40 range can be reserved for celebrities who were iconic style figures, people who influenced fashion or TV style for a goodly time. Cher would fall toward the top of this range; Farrah to the bottom (as she was just a poster of good hair when all is said and done). I feel Cher conquered 70s television and for that she deserves to be ranked near Flip Wilson. I\u2019d put her in the top 30 for sure. No kid in the 70s wasn\u2019t enamored by Cher on TV at some point in the 70s: budding feminists, the toddler gay community, and aspiring baby divas.<\/p>\n<p>Workhorses who excelled in more than one show should appear in the 50-75 range: Ted Danson, Heather Locklear, Ed Asner.<\/p>\n<p>Odds and ends who we somehow love but really didn&#8217;t display much discernible talent should fall in the 75-90 range: Ron Howard as Opie, Bob Denver as Gilligan.<\/p>\n<p>Late breaking favorites should be relegated to the bottom because they may have promise but they haven\u2019t exhibited longevity yet: James Gandolfini, Rosie O\u2019Donnell. Ellen DeGeneres<\/p>\n<p>Please, send me your thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m gonna be sporadic with my blog postings in December. Which sucks because I have LOTS to talk about, a veritable backlog of Cher-chat to share. 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