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Cher Kids and Story Songs

This year has found me reading a lot of Cher scholarship from very young fans (by definition new fans) and journalists. When you grow up with something, it’s easier to remember the details of it. I notice this a lot at work. New people have a hard time understanding the complicities of the systems. But three of us have been there forever and saw the complexity added bit by bit and we can keep it all rolling around in our heads.

In Cher’s case it’s like which pictures go with which eras, details of chronology, trivia. Casual and new fans often miss this.

An example: the older fans, we see a lot of AI photos of Cher being posted now online, from photo sessions that never were. They’re weird and disturbing.  Another fan I know recently used the word “discomfiting” which is a good word to describe a really well written and positive review that will get some major facts wrong, like Cher’s band’s name or the first of something that wasn’t the first of that thing or they hate whole categories of things because they’re not used to the sound of that time. There’s a dissonance there for older fans to grapple with.

But anthropologically speaking, listening to new fans is still very interesting. Because Cher’s old work is being remediated and meaning is being created by people in the context of another generation. Their point of view is invaluable. And their excitement is nice. We didn’t grow up with that either, us older fans, so many people writing about their love of Cher.

So after I read this article by college student James Fitzpatrick from a column called No Skips, it reminded me that this Greatest Hits LP was one of the first Cher albums I ever owned (of my own anyway, after wearing out my parents two Sonny & Cher LPs). I brought it home from the record stacks of the Styx Baer & Fuller department store in St. Louis at Chesterfield Mall (an at-the-time new shopping mall that is now demolished). I bought it with the other LPs Cherished and Stars, all discounted for a few dollars each, which was money I had to finagle out of my parents who had dragged me along on a shopping trip (fully not expecting to have to buy any Cher records). These were Cher’s latest releases and Take Me Home hadn’t come out, so this must have been 1978. I didn’t have, or even know about, the studio albums from which all these songs came, Cher (1971), Foxy Lady (1972), Half Breed (1973) and Dark Lady (1974). I was 8 years old and for me these songs belonged together on this Greatest Hits album.

The 1974 Cher’s Greatest Hits Fitzpatrick listened to was a bit different. On the streaming and CD versions “Dixie Girl” was added to the end and the songs were displayed in a different order on the album cover (on the CD/streaming album cover the songs are listed in the correct playing order; the LP doesn’t list them in the correct playing order).

Reading essays about fan behavior over the past few weeks, I’ve been thinking about how music comes to you and how the track listing and the album covers are really formative extra features of music, maybe even more so in the old days before the distractions of smart phones. You’d sit and listen to an album while staring at the album cover in total immersion with the thing. And how the songs played alongside each other affected some deeply subconscious part of how you understood them.

These songs belong together in my head and heart because this is how I first heard them and its this gathering of tracks that has the most meaning for me when emotionally considering Cher’s early 1970s solo music. It deeply affected my views of these songs and of Cher herself.

On the NPR interview a month or so ago, I was telling Robrt Pela about how I came to be a Sonny & Cher fan because they were glamourous and charming and never boring and how Cher has carried on this tradition very well over the years. But also that I am now able to enjoy fandom on two levels, an academic level and still on a very nostalgic, childish level. I love this album quite sentimentally. It takes me back to my childhood self tout de suite, back to my living room in St. Louis singing along with the songs over and over again. The evening street lamp shining into the big front windows.

The format of these old MCA greatest hits was meaningful too, the big block lettering listed down two sides of an iconic photo. Think of Neil Diamond’s Greatest Hits. (We had that album in the house, too.) Sonny & Cher had their version of it too (seemingly naked!). Seeing the songs on the cover gave them some kind of extra weight. And songs became associated with the left side or the right side of the universe, as much as they fell to side A or side B of a physical disc of vinyl.

The picture itself was impactful, Cher with the deepest 1970s tan she would ever sport, the beautiful casually hanging hand, the bare foot and ankle bracelet (still trading on something indigenous). The gauzy flowing dress. Is that her nightgown, I wondered. She’s obviously not in a bedroom though, with that pink background.

Her look is both serious yet a smirk of friendliness. Not the Cher stare of other albums. Kid friendly. Very kid friendly. Even the pose, as if she were bending down just to see what we were doing. We were listening to her Greatest Hits album a gazillion times on repeat, that’s what we were doing.

A Side

Dark Lady: The album starts with this quietly exotic intro and I remember landing the needle on the vinyl every time. The song was completely without the context of the Richard Avedon cat photo for me, the song’s studio album cover. This was just one of the characters Cher played. The Cher I saw singing it was the Cher in the gauzy, white dress. Not quite so serious, in other words. Singing with the same smirk she gives us in the picture. (This is why album covers are important.)

Barbra Streisand often talks about ‘performing’ songs (sort of acting through them) in ways Cher never does, even for these narrative songs, as if they weren’t even worth the trouble to discuss how she sang them. To Cher they just seem uncool end stop. But I could still understand the narrative conventions. I didn’t fully understand the complicated drama of this song. I certainly didn’t know there was a MURDER! Or even register the danger of the gun.

Fitzpatrick talks about this being his favorite Cher song (“I’d argue it’s Cher’s best song”) due to the “theatrical performance [that] blows me away during every listen.” He even compares this to Liza Minnelli’s 1972 performance in Cabaret! Not a comparison a 70s kid would ever dare to make but an interesting one to think more about.

I would like to say one final thing about these story songs. No one else could have pulled off this material. No one. No one else would have been able to perform the song with the same cool commitment, let alone even lift the darn thing. The song would have fallen on its face in any other hands (or throat). The song would have died an unknown death.

The Way of Love: We get a breather now from the carnage. Time to catch our breath. A very quiet, pulsing beginning that evolves to pure, cry-to-the-sky bombast. The torch song to end all torch songs. I grew up on these studio drum fills, these horns that go marching off like horses running another race.

Fitzpatrick calls it “orchestral swell” and does not mention the accidental gender entanglement of the song (“then what will you do when he sets you free, just the way that you said goodbye to me”) but admits that even though “she’s had two divorces now, I’d take relationship advice from her any day of the week.”

“Keep your heart out of danger, dear.”

Don’t Hide Your Love: A break in the drama. Yes. But this was some musical toxic-positivity when I was a kid. A little too pert. A bit milquetoast. However, old age has beaten me down and I now find the song very relevant. Oy. “Come let’s be fair with one another.” There’s some solid relationship advice hiding a bit too playfully in this one.

Cher even does her own backups here.  There are some interesting orchestral touches and moments where vocally the song falls endearingly out of Cher’s reach.

Fitzgerald calls the song one of the albums “weaker performances,” possibly indicating it contains everything but the kitchen sink.

Half Breed: Like “Dark Lady” and “Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves,” no one else could have pulled this off. This is a hill I’m willing to die on. Okay, the chuggy chanting does not age well. And okay, the “Indian drums” are not great. But my vinyl album was spent pretty quick and our phonograph wasn’t great so I barely even noticed these things. It felt very multicultural at the time.

When Cher sings “but I can’t run away from what I am.” That’s still a moment. (I just scrolled back on the streaming bar to relisten to it and guessed exactly where it was. High five.)

Fitzgerald mistakenly labels this song as “where Cher begins her various instances of singing as a character.” This was officially “Gypsys” two years earlier. But you could argue she was singing from characters going all the way back to the “fallen woman” songs of the 1960s. Fitzgerald does note that the song was “pushed…to the wayside” and was noticeably missing from her recent Forever compilation. I think the modern-day Cher Enterprises might be quietly trying to retire this one.

Train of Thought: And then the whistle blows and we’re off on the train of more drama! Like I said, I grew up on Jeff Porcaro’s drumming and it gets me every time, holding his own with these big, crazy productions. Cher sings with a very, very slight southern drawl that is put to use very fluidly through parts pop-screech and parts bluesy gospel. This is just a very exciting thing, start to end.

And silly too: “Wooh, wooh!”

In his review Fitzpatrick mentions the “deeper register” and the “tempo of a train chugging along” being “an immersive experience.”

B Side

Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves: What a way to start side two. The unforgettable staircase sound of a cimbalom.

This was a veritable “old song” for this compilation. Critics are now calling this song one of the best songs of the century. Annie Zeleski asked Cher about this viewpoint (as told in her new book) and Cher did not agree.

But just think of the speed at which she and Snuff Garrett recorded these songs. It’s pretty impressive. The song’s texture and the ingenuities of its production. It doesn’t sound dated at all. It still sounds quality.

Fitzgerald calls this song “a banger.” (Kids today.) “Her performance—namely on the bridge—is immaculate.”  And it is.

He adds, “thankfully, this one wasn’t removed from Forever despite its similarities to “Half Breed.”

The problem of the Cancel, right there.

I Saw a Man and He Danced with His Wife: This has been one of my favorite songs since childhood. Surprising to me now considering how “adult” it seems. The tragic, slow torch open and how it widens into a big-band midtempo dance-hall song.

The sweeps and punctuations of Cher’s vocals on all of these songs were (and still are) so delightful to me. The syrupy parts. The gravely parts, too. The way she sings “saw me” showing how young she still was.

Fitzgerald says this one “comes painfully close to being a big band song,” but that Cher somehow saves it. He links the narrator to the one in the song “Gary Saw Linda Last Night” by Gary Wilson (“an artist you wouldn’t expect in a Cher review,” he says) so I had to follow that rabbit trail and he’s right; this is a category. “Is She Really Going Out With Him” by Joe Jackson and “Misunderstanding” by Genesis. But those songs don’t end well and this one does for Cher and her fella.

And every time I listen to it, it feels like a surprise.

Carousel Man: The sad love continues with this little whirlwind.  I loved this dizzy song when I was a kid, its whole pop tragedy. Beware of the older man/carnival barker, kids! I took the song very literally, not as an extended metaphor. I now think the song is about showbiz girlfriends.

Fitzgerald calls this “the third head of the hydra” of best Cher songs. Another song about “traveling shows and carnivals” like “Gypsys,” a song that “hides innuendos,” that is explosive yet subdued in the right places.”

Living in House Divided: And then even more tragedy in the song about a domestic breakup. These songs have great opening parts. And this is a song like no other. What is this thing? A bombastic, deadpan melodrama is what it is. And yet it works. Cher belts it out and the schmaltz just forms into a good thing somehow.

Fitzgerald writes about the “brass fills and tambourine hits on the cinematic chorus” that “compliment the marvelous vocals…Cher sounds especially liberated here.”

See what a generational perspective will do? Younger fans can’t help but see the modern-day Cher now when they listen to her older songs. How could they? I don’t hear liberation here. I hear pure torch melancholy.

Melody: I would usually hop off at this point. I had no use for the meandering melody-lessness of this. I kept losing the thread each time. And who was Melody anyway? A kid? A doll? A dog? It was a doll, a ‘dolly’ to be precise. And Cher already had another dolly song I did not much care for as kid. (I’ve since come around to it, too). These are both definitely innocence-to-experience songs, very similar to “Bang Bang” in their use of childhood toys to express the hard facts of life. But what 8 year old had the information to perceive this?

This song has stray lines I find much more poignant these days: “Three days crying took its toll./This typing and crying’s getting old.” This is another ruined-woman song (a whole other blog post). But the music is still aimless and dull to me.

Fitzgerald called it a “tame cut…with no chorus.” (Hence my girlish problem.) He says “it could’ve functioned better as a palate cleanser a few songs ago.” But “not a skip,” he says. I disagree. It’s a whole song of an album fade-out. My 8 year old self would have been annoyed to have had to do the hard labor of skipping it.

Fitzgerald’s album version (the later-day CD or streaming version) also had “Dixie Girl” which he doesn’t elaborate on and neither will I. He says Cher still sounds excellent on her Christmas album and that “she and Elton John are built different” which explains their longevity.

 

When I made a mix of this album for myself on Tidal and it finished playing, the algorithm served up immediately next “Indian Reservation” by Paul Revere & the Raiders, which is not okay on so many levels. And no, Cher never ever covered that song. (Sigh.)

These Greatest Hits songs as they played for me in this order while I was staring at this particular album-cover photograph described a kind of Cher personality to me, one that I wouldn’t have formulated from listening to the studio albums first (which I found later, all in used record stores). I would recalibrate my idea of those songs in context of those other listening experiences.

And only today am I reminded of how I first encountered them and how lovely that was.

Being a Cher kid during this lush period of music was what I would call almost magical. (Do we all say that about the music of our youth?) It was not just glamourous, charming and interesting, it was sparkling, dramatic and fun.

Three (Four) New Cher Books for 2025

Is this an embarrassment of riches? (More like tender mercies, tbh.)

We have three new Cher books on the horizon (at least), not to mention part 2 of Cher’s memoir, if she meets the deadline. She has many more years of her life to cover in part 2 (the years 1980 to 2025) but less family history…so who knows what that word count will be. If it’s a real juicy part deux, maybe cooler heads will prevail and we’ll get a part 3.

A girl can dream.

I Got You Babe, A Celebration of Cher by Annie Zaleski, forward by Cyndi Lauper

Cyndi Lauper will be writing the forward. That’s good news. We’ve been waiting for this new picture book for a while. Zaleski wrote Cher’s essay in the 2024 RnR HoF program and she did a good job so I’m looking forward to this.

The book will be released next Tuesday, 6 May 2025 and it also happens to be the last thing I had pre-ordered from Amazon, thereby ending my final purchase with that website.

If you haven’t yet ordered the book, consider ordering from bookshop.org, which also does extensive mail-order but while helping to support a local bookstore of your choosing.

https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-got-you-babe-a-celebration-of-cher/b5acb2df9906d224?ean=9780762489800&next=t

Style Codes: Cher, A Guide to Dressing Like a Fashion Icon by Natalie Hammond

I found this one today while looking for the other two books on the list. This one comes out 14 October 2025. The description says the 196-page book contains:

“inspiration and practical advice garnered from the many looks and bold wardrobe of Cher….[her] timeless glamour, unique sense of style, and famous long dark locks have inspired generations. From statement bell bottoms to studs and embellishments to her signature leather looks, Cher’s star quality is unmistakable. In each chapter, you will learn how to develop your own personal style, guided by interviews and fabulous photographs that capture the quintessential aura of Cher’s fashion legacy. Embrace the power of taking risks with artistic makeup, bold colors palettes, and avant-garde designs. Style Codes: Cher is more than just tips and tricks to help elevator your wardrobe. It’s a call to believe in and fully cherish who you are and who you want to be.”

So “a call to believe in and fully cherish who you are and who you want to be” if who you are and want to be is exactly like Cher. Oy.

https://bookshop.org/p/books/style-codes-cher-a-guide-to-dressing-like-a-fashion-icon/45495626904a3280?ean=9781419785535&next=t

There’s also edition out already on David Bowie if that’s who you want to be:
https://bookshop.org/p/books/style-codes-david-bowie-a-guide-to-dressing-like-a-fashion-icon-natalie-hammond/21706541?ean=9781419779886&next=t

And you can be like Dolly Parton soon in May:
https://bookshop.org/p/books/style-codes-dolly-parton-a-guide-to-dressing-like-a-fashion-icon-natalie-hammond/21706538?ean=9781419779879&next=t

Cher: A Little Golden Book Biography by Candice Ransom, illustrations by Laura Catrinella

This is exciting, a new children’s bio on Cher coming out 2 December 2025. I love these!

https://bookshop.org/p/books/cher-a-little-golden-book-biography/76ef8446844ba43e?ean=9798217029884&next=t&affiliate=2186

 

Rock and Roll and Sex

We were recently talking on this blog about the Australian Uber Eats commercial and the image of Cher on the cannon (which just made me check the spelling of that word which made me think about the other word and how Cher is so often not considered “part of the canon,” any canon; but in fact she is often commandeering it). But anyway, that image is famously a phallic symbol for many people, although ironically she is dressed casually in that scene and not scantily.

It doesn’t matter. The cannon pulls focus.

Anyway, this reminded me of when Mr. Cher Scholar and I were talking about Cher in the Half Breed outfit (which is his go-to outfit to describe Cher’s sex appeal). Apart from the problematic eroticism of the performative Indian-ness, Cher was just revealing so much skin. Howard Stern also commented on this in his interview with Cher last year, how it was literally embarrassing for him to see Cher perform in this outfit on her TV show while Stern was watching it in the same room with his parents.

Mr. Cher Scholar added something important though: it was also the fact that she was singing astride the horse. And we’re back to the canon again. I began to think this Half Breed moment was more universal for boys and teens who saw it in 1974.

We talk about sex appeal from time to time, Mr. Cher Scholar and me. What stars can tap into that sexuality better than others? Lady Gaga vs. Cher has come up a few times. “I get no sex off her,” says Mr. Cher Scholar, which sounds worse that it is. He means sex-appeal or rather “I don’t find her very sexy personally.”

So what is that mysterious thing that emanates sexuality on screen?

If I’m being honest, the Cher images I find sexier than phallic cannons and horses are from the Take Me Home album front cover or the I’d Rather Believe In You back cover (which showed the shadow of a naked breast!) because they seemed more playful in their sexuality, either because of the costume or the action.

But that’s the difference between human triggers, right there. Some people, like David Letterman, were turned on just seeing her big butt tattoo.

But that shot almost seemed too clinical for me. And the ink itself was not a factor in sexiness, in and of itself. Although her willingness to dip into her drawers to show them struck me as very sexy.

Those acting-era, pubic-adjacent photos felt defiantly daring to me. I never forgot them. I got tired of the whole tattoo thing, especially now that they’re ubiquitous. Besides, my Dad has one. Automatically out of the sexy category forever. (More on this below.)

Cher can be effortlessly sexy, even in paparazzi shots and unstaged photos and I think that’s no small part of her appeal:

Women artists are often accused of selling sex with their music. And there’s a whole fleet of women artists who either keep the makeup on and fight it (Pat Benetar) or lose the makeup and go gritty with maybe only eyeliner if anything (Patti Smith, Chrissy Hynde) or women who take it to a drag-queen level but still maintain street cred (Dolly Parton) or women who try to have it both ways, their lipstick and their badassery (Madonna, Cher). Women who are somewhere in the mix of all this (P!nk).

While I was trying to sort through all this I was also reading some academic anthologies about fandom and the kinds of fans (for a larger Cher project). I’ve been re-reading my marginalia to try and zero-in on how the material relates to Cher specifically (and fandom generally). One book was called The Adoring Audience, a book of essays edited by Lisa A. Lewis. And there I was reminded of the double standard around displays of sexuality for both the artists and their fans.

Women are accused of playing the sex card more often than men (which doesn’t feel true) and female fans are also accused of focusing on sexuality more often than male fans do, what with their love of boy bands, their focus on shirtless, pinup pics (which also doesn’t feel entirely true).

You could argue women face more pressure to display sexuality in performances but you can see just by perusing any teen magazine that most of the pinups are men…marketing their sexuality happily, without much pressure to do so.

As Sonny’s TV show character Alvie might say on Sonny & Cher’s later-day variety show, “turn to any Tiger Teen Hit Beat Bop Parade Magazine” and you’ll see all those male pinups. And sure, those magazines may cater to the girls but I saw plenty of college dorm rooms with pinups and posters of sexy ladies that were gotten somewhere. We all had ‘em.

By the way, I think Sonny understood the value of those teen magazines, which is why maybe Sonny & Cher were in so many of them, embedded into them in some cases. And at the same time you might argue he often tried to tamp down the sex appeal of Cher (as his wife), watering it down in things like the movie Chastity or maybe just not watering her blossoming sex appeal at all. So then Richard Avedon in Vogue Magazine and Bob Mackie had to come along and sexploit the situation. Cher seemed grateful about it. She said before Avedon and Mackie, no one considered her to be sexy.

In the book of essays mentioned above there are a series of excerpts from Cheryl Cline from Bitch Magazine and she goes into the selling of the male sex in those teen magazines.

“Rock stars are sexy. Surely this is not a novel idea? Men can mumble in their beards about the ‘goddamn Tom Jones syndrome’ all they want, but I ask you: isn’t there a hell of a lot of good material for sex fantasies in rock’n’roll?…Playgirl pales by comparison….peddles a narrow assortment of universally handsome, clean-cut, well-formed male model types. Nothing as weird as Ozzy Osbourne, or as sinister as Billy Idol, or as fat as Meatloaf, or as misshapen as Ian Dury, or even as, ahem, old as Mick Jagger.”

I would have to agree with her about Playgirl, which I had to buy surreptitiously as a teen in order to read a Cher interview in it. (I swear, Mr. Paperback Bookstore Sales Clerk, I’m buying it for the articles!!) Like male strip shows designed by men, the magazine was not very sexy. But I did spend a lot of time drawing that conclusion…you know, to be really, really sure.

Cline continues, quoting Lori Twersky:

‘”Many rock star crazed girls have a wide variety of desires. It’s not unusual to find pictures of Shaun Cassidy, Roger Daltrey, Meatloaf, Pat Simmons, and Mikhail Baryshnikov on the same wall.’

.…And what does Playgirl serve up? Tom Selleck. Look at any copy of the sleazier rock magazines and you’ll find at least as many real hot photos of the men as you would in Playgirl. Rock stars are hardly averse to playing the sexpot in the pages of magazines, in posters, in ads, on stage, in videos…it’s all soft core porn, to be sure, but hey, it’s pretty good soft core porn.”

So female pop stars aren’t the only ones who traffic in sexpot. And aren’t we all the better for it? So why are we giving men more agency in this activity? Women are the pressured ones, men are not?

This reminds me that a few years ago I wrote a poem (or part of a poem) about how my mother used to make my bed every day while I was in high school and in doing so she had to face the 3D crotch of a certain rock star on a poster every morning while she was making that bed. What she must have been thinking as she did this? I compared it to me as an adult first viewing a picture of my Dad while he was stationed in the Philippines, out in the sun wearing some low-slung pants and his very fit shiftlessness. What feelings did this picture evoke in my mother? I even asked my mother, did she find this picture sexy? The poem was about how each of us had been forced in this way to experience the unpleasantness of having to consider the other’s sexuality and gaze of desire.

Later Cline goes on to talk about the idea of class, foreignness or ethnicity, something outside of the “clean cut,” something unruly and she uses Elvis as an example of one person triggering all these fantasies in women:

“What made a rock music sexier than Tab Hunter was transgression.”

(It is now very ironic to me that the board game Mystery Date has only one sexy man behind the door: The Dud.)

I would argue that a similar thing was going on with Cher: a hint of ethnicity, not your blonde, clean-cut girl, the symbology of all that hair, and the essential unrulyness. The mysterious, possibly slightly-dangerous, untamable Cher.

And speaking of the female artists who revolted against selling sexiness and reverted instead to playing with the boys, adopting their cultural cues, there are also the female fans who do the exact same thing, the ones who take great pains to appear as if they’re “one of the boys” by focusing more on the music than the performative bodies. They would never squeal, for example, these girls. They have internalized all the criticism of female fandom and co-opted the culture of reserve.

So as a female audience you’re enticed to get turned on by the performance but then you’re disparaged if you do.

In fact, you’re disparaged if you like sexy artists at all. Because isn’t it supposed to be about the music?

But that’s the sad little secret. If one has to distance themselves from their own sexuality, how rock and roll is it?

I like to see a full spectrum of human (consenting) sexuality on display, from tomboy to full-on glam girl, from effeminate to macho, and different looks for different occasions because (and beyond the gender-academics, didn’t Drag U teach us this?) all sexuality is performative. And, in its best display, playful.

Which goes back to why some stars aren’t sexy. As Mr. Cher Scholar would say, “they’re trying too hard.”

Cher’s movie career and television career have given us a little bit of Cher in many different sexualities. And it’s been fun. She’s never been locked into anything. Which is very, very sexy.

As a female fan of both male or female artists, I refuse to check my squeals or trump up much respect for those who do.

As a friend of other fans, many who are people in marginalized groups, people who are vulnerable to this kind of dismissal for freely expressing what they are turned on by, I want freedom for them. They should be allowed  to show enthusiasm for the human body without being disparaged as unserious fans, especially when sexuality is completely baked into the whole shebang.

Here is Cher as the very sexy showgirl. And how very seriously sexy she is, too.

Cher Scholar and Substack

Due to recent events starting a few years ago, I started moving from X to Facebook. Then I completely cancelled my X (its owner has been trolling my family members; I really couldn’t stay) and moved to Facebook, knowing that wasn’t a very good alternative. But at least Bluesky (a more healthy place for former Tweeters) was a viable space for short form posts. Facebook really has no similar space out there in the world and many people rely on it for their businesses.

I, however, don’t. So I didn’t have a good excuse to stay there. Especially after hearing details from the the book Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams and the international malfeasance Facebook is causing worldwide. So I have now given up Amazon, X/Twitter and am far down the path of extricating myself from Google and Facebook. It’s not like we didn’t once live our lives without them.

Change is hard but it can also be fun. More on that below.

This is all to say I won’t be posting notices about Cher Scholar Blog on Facebook anymore. I’ll be doing that on Bluesky and Substack. I’ll also be publishing Substack-only articles, longer-form pieces that don’t fit either on Cher Scholar or Big Bang Poetry. Previously, I’ve had no space for that kind of thing.

I’m very happy with Bluesky and so far Substack feels almost like a clearing of the mind when you consider its interface compared to the noise of Facebook. It feels refreshing. The first thing I did there was to type in “Cher” to findcontent. That’s always how I learn a new research or technology tool. I type “Cher” into it.

I found some very good things. And some sassy, good writing, like the early pre-2000s Internet.

Unlike Bluesky, Cher fans were on Substack years before I got there. (I’m still waiting to find my Cher people on Bluesky.) A few pieces are about fans discovering Cher media for the first time.

Like her music. Trevor Gardemal has started working through Cher albums this year: https://substack.com/home/post/p-155592386

Mostly he doesn’t like the 1960s stuff.  He calls Look at Us “among the longest 36 minutes of my life” and after that he would try no more S&C records, But the 1960s solo records also sound “monotonous” to him and he didn’t know the covers on those albums He does like the “musical spaghetti” of “Bang Bang” and he says, “Cher always kills a story-based song.” The first album he likes much is With Love, Cher because it’s where Cher is “really starting to sound like herself.” He also likes “You’d Better Sit Down Kids” which is “fun, sad and a little kooky.”  He likes the artwork of Backstage and a few of the songs there. But the Jackson Highway album, he feels, is where “Cher is free from Sonny’s production…everything [he did] felt so flat prior to this.”  He really likes “the twang” on that album.

Oh and Cher Scholar gets a shout-out there so that’s nice.

Like her movies: novelist Kerry Winfrey had a Cher Summer of Movies in 2024. She describes her experiences watching the movies (and other Cher things) with her husband and son. I particularly like the irreverent way she writes movie reviews, which is very funny and knowledgeable both. And she’s a novelist so the writing is good.

Silkwood: https://substack.com/home/post/p-145674456
Winfrey marks the beginning of Cher’s career here. But Cher would say it was the preceding film version of the Broadway play Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean. I would put the beginning at Good Times and Chastity a few decades earlier. Why leave them out?

Winfrey talks about how hard Silkwood is to find (life-hack: she gets them from the library). Her “gentle roasting” style is very addictive. She describes it as “when you love something with your whole heart and are also making fun of it just a little bit.” But the Cher love comes through loud and clear, which makes these reviews a very good example of audience reactions to Cher in these movies, especially a woman’s reaction.

“This movie was harrowing and emotional…and still quite fun in parts,” she says and then she talks about the great cast and Cher’s role as “a butch lesbian,” (a soft butch I would say). “This is a pride month watch for two reasons: Cher in general and Cher as a lesbian.”

This paragraph is typical of Winfrey’s style:

“Kurt Russell is, as always great. Have you ever seen Kurt Russell in a role and thought, “no thanks,” because I certainly haven’t. I’m always happy to see him. He wears very low=slung jeans and, at one point, pours a beer over his head….He’s a flawed character and he’s a character that knows the importance of reduce/reuse/recycle.”

That’s adorable film reviewing right there. She also sees things in the movies that I’ve missed. Like Meryl Streep’s mullet.

“Like, what a cast! The tree of them together [Streep, Russel, Cher] light up the screen! There’s just so much hair!”

She talks about Craig T. Nelson’s work as a heavy in movies and I didn’t even realize E. Katherine Kerr is the same person who is in Suspect. Playing different social class of character, too. How amazing. Winfrey catches the cross over of John Mahoney in Suspect and Moonstruck. But if she watches Come Back to the Five and Dime, she will see the cross-over of Sudie Bond there and in Silkwood.

Her reviews are also full of empowering Cher asides, which I will catalog here.

“At one point Cher starts dating a makeup artist but it turns out she’s a makeup artist at a funeral parlor and she’s making Cher look like a corpse. Hollis was like, “What was that whole plot in there?’ and listen, he’s my husband and I love him, but sometimes I don’t know what he’s thinking. Why wouldn’t that little detail be in there? Why wouldn’t I want to see Cher date a funeral home makeup artist?”

I love reviews like this.

She quotes Roger Ebert’s review at the time expecting the film to be a predictable, angry political expose but that it was really an unpredictable character-driven story where the villains are mysteriously drawn and not cartoonish.

Then there’s an aside about Winfrey working out to Cher music. “Have you ever power-walked to ‘Song for the Lonely?’ Because I have and it was beautiful.”

Winfrey’s son was shocked at seeing Cher’s entire butt in the “Turn Back Time” video. and she says, “it’s never too early to start talking about Cher.”  Her son also asked,

“why did that sailor grab Cher’s leg?” and I responded, “I guess he just loves Cher.” But then I remembered that we need to teach our children about the importance of consent, so I added, “but you shouldn’t grab someone’s leg, even if it’s Cher…especially if it’s Cher.”

I could read this stuff all day.

Mask: https://substack.com/home/post/p-146339849

She begins this review talking about how all the moms who are hot for Sam Elliott. She says she didn’t watch Mask in high school “because I would have, as they say, made it my entire personality.” This tracks with my behavior after seeing the movie, how I went out to find white sleeveless t-shirts and shoelace necklaces.

She focuses on the mom aspects of the movie which I only half-considered on previous viewings, how the kids are mean to Rocky but “he has something all those other jerky kids don’t have: a biker gang as a family.” She compares these bikers to the romance novel trope where a group of “traditionally very masculine guys is actually made of up romantic softies.” She also highlights Rocky’s transitioning from a little boy who collects baseball cards to a teenager who likes girls and how touching and precious she finds this. Very interesting point there.

You can tell from the review that she’s watching the director’s cut because the scene with Cher singing at the camp site is back in and Bruce Springsteen songs are on the soundtrack (which was Rocky’s favorite artist). Of Rusty, she says, “She is such a tough, take-no-shit, badass mom at times (I mean, she’s Cher, of course she is) but does she have a job?

I’ve thought about that too. How do they pay the rent? Cher is always “making morning smoothies while listening to what sounds like my Spotify yacht rock playlist.” And also, Rusty also cannot drive a car….whenever there’s a a lawn or a curb, she’s gonna drive over it. She can’t even park in her own driveway–diagonally on the front lawn it is!…No curb can contain her.”

And Winfrey claims “You’ve never seen a more attractive biker couple.” And then she makes fun of one of Gar’s t-shirts in the movie, the one that says “Mustache Rides” (which was lost on me in 1986. Winfrey says, “literally anyone else in this shirt would look like a drunk frat boy.”

Other good sentences:

“In my experience, knowing a lot about the Trojan War was never a ticket to popularity in high school.”

Upset when Rusty ignores Rocky’s new poem, Winfrey says, “I know she doesn’t’ have time to read parent books….but come on.!”

She does respect Rocky figuring out how to ride all day on the bus across Los Angeles to get to see Laura Dern again: “Things were so much harder in the time before cell phones and Google.”

She says some say the movie is too long. I didn’t realize this. I hadn’t heard. But that “art doesn’t have to be efficient” and she makes a case for Nothing Happens cinema.

Winfrey is surprised this role did not earn Cher an Oscar win, not to mention just a nomination. She feels this is a better role than Moonstruck. I’ve been saying that for years. It’s more of an emotional tour-de-force. Winfey notes that Rocky’s puppy grows bigger in the background while the story plays out, which is a nice touch.

This was also a hard movie to find, Winfrey says. The library again.

“I know we have a lot going on right now as a country, but at some point we need to look at why so many Cher films are almost impossible to watch. Something’s not right here. I think Cher is being silenced, you guys.”

And she leaves us with this bombshell at the end, artist Jens Lekman having songs about this movie. Who knew this factoid?

From Wikipedia:

Gradually, he adopted the pseudonym Rocky Dennis, a name he borrowed from the protagonist in the movie Mask. Under this name, he began releasing limited edition CD-R discs, the first of which was 2001’s The Budgie. In the early 2000s, he sent a collection of the songs to the American record label Secretly Canadian, who contracted him.

From 2000 to 2003, Lekman recorded and released much of his material privately on CD-R. Because one of his songs during this time was titled “Rocky Dennis’ Farewell Song to the Blind Girl”, inspired by the movie Mask. Lekman was mistakenly referred to as “Rocky Dennis”. Lekman says that it was a “mistake”: “someone thought that was my real name cause I had a song about him, and then radio picked up on it, and I never had a chance to change it,” He put the confusion to rest with his Rocky Dennis in Heaven EP (2004).

We will have to check that out.

Suspect: https://substack.com/home/post/p-144841303

“I wish Cher was my lawyer” Winfrey says and I had to think about that for a minute. Would this be good or bad?

“Yesterday, May 20th, was Cher’s birthday. A national holiday, if you ask me!”

She compares Suspect to the courtroom drama And Justice for All but :instead of Al Pacino being hot, we got Cher being hot.”

Winfrey notices a lot of the outfits Cher rocks in this review: “absolutely rocking a beret,” and she “looks amazing in all her oversized sweaters” (she totally does), and “Cher looks amazing in glasses” and how great she looks between the library stacks talking to Dennis Quaid, “and at the end “where she’s sitting at her desk and looking like the baddest bitch in town.”

Cher as a character: “beleaguered and tough.

D.C. as a character: “the D.C. of Suspect is a nightmare. We’re, like, five minutes in and we’ve already had a suicide, a murder, and a carjacking.”

So true.

She makes over Cher’s bad chalkboard handwriting and about Liam Neeson, “this hostile murder suspect [who] is just betting hotter and hotter” with every progressive clean-up scene.  And Winfrey tracks all the ethics violations, including Dennis Quaid having to sleep with E. Katherine Kerr: “That’s honestly so much work. Good for him.”

Instead of jury-tampering there’s Cher-tampering and about Quaid, “no sequester can hold him.

“I screamed when he grabbed her and scared my son…I had to be like, “I’m sorry, someone was hurting Cher in a movie, but everything’s okay, go back to bed!”

About Cher’s solving the mystery at the end: “I don’t really know, but I believe she can do just about anything so I’m willing to overlook any gaps in logic.” Winfrey affirms Cher was believable as a lawyer and I do too.

She reminds us Cher “was in Suspect, The Witches of Eastwick and Moonstruck all in the same year. “We used to be a proper country.”

She caught this movie for free streaming on Tubi.

Moonstruck: https://substack.com/home/post/p-147964693

This is the last movie I could find that Winfrey reviewed.

“I’m not sure this is her best performance (she’s been great in everything, and different in everything…we love a queen with range), it’s certainly her biggest performance. I’d say her star-making performance, if Cher wasn’t already a star….the quintessentail Cher role…she’s luminous, lighting up the screen with that husky voice and je nais said Cher.” No one else could play this role.”

Winfrey talks about how Cher can play an Italian character (and notes the other non-Italian actor, Olympia Dukakis) and that Cher “can play any identity. She basically wrote a song about it.”

What is this song she speaks of?

She talks about love in New York City movies in the 1980s and mentions Crossing Delancy. I was once at my local tearoom on a book club night and I sat with two New Yorkers now living in Albuquerque. I asked them what movie they thought most reminded them of New York City and they answered Crossing Delancy. We talked about me living there in the late 1990s and I said the movie that most reminded me of my co-workers and my landlord was Moonstruck (especially the plastic runners and the plastic on the couch and the way they were less broadly Italian than I had been led to believe Italians were from the movies.)

I didn’t notice this before but Johnny asking Loretta to invite Ronny to the wedding was kind of pushy. “This is so much emotional labor to foist on Cher and she’s not even your wife yet!”

Winfrey goes into great detail about the “meet cute” (which is a ROM-COM term I had to look up) at the bakery. Chrissy and all the cast reacting to Ronny in great detail. She says this is one of the “greatest lines in the history of cinema”: “I lost my hand! I lost my bride! Johnny has his hand! Johnny has his bride!”

Winfrey says she taught her son to memorize those lines because “I do think it’s important for children to learn at least one Nicolas Cage monologue while they’re young, and if they don’t hear about Moonstruck at home, they’ll hear about it on the streets.”

When Loretta makes Ronny a steak, “we should all be so lucky as to have Cher makes us a steak.”

Winfrey then talks about the knocking over of the table in this scene: “Today’s romances could never. Point me to one single romantic comedy made in the last ten (fifteen?) years that has even on-tenth of the raw sexual chemistry that Cher and Nicolas Cage share in this scene”…and then she talks about male desperation in movies.

She then compares Ronny’s hotness (“He’s already knocked over multiple things”) to Johnny’s boringness (“I seriously doubt he’s toppled a table even once.”)

Winfrey then talks about characters who have to make tough ethical choices (Olympia Dukakis’s character) and Cher’s makeover.

“It’s pure elation whenever we get the chance to see Cher get glam again. It’s her natural state….she loses the gray hair and puts on some blood red lipstick, buys a new dress, and BAM! She’s Cher!…and she looks like a million bucks. And do you know what Ronny says when he sees her dress? He says “thank you.” This is the correct response.”

Back at Ronny’s place, Cage delivers what Winfrey says,

“I swear to you, the best monologue I’ve ever heard…this one is a romance novel….He has his little bowtie on. It’s snowing. Cher’s crying. Show me a better scene in cinema, I dare you.”

She then recites the whole monologue. Which is great indeed.

“Cher walks home in the morning looking the absolute hottest she’s ever looked, kicking a can down the street with the city…Name a better romance. You can’t. This one has it all: New York, Nicolas Cage, Italian food [that egg dish alone], opera, Dean Martin singing ‘That’s Amore,” a lot of dogs, and Cher..”

I quoted Kerry Winfrey a lot here just to show how she is very adept at showing us why Cher is so likable in the movies. So check out her other stuff on Substack and her novels at Goodreads.

Cher vs. Dolly (https://substack.com/home/post/p-136055950)
Troy Ford wrote this 2023 (and since I’m having a Dolly-easter party this weekend, this is very timely).

Ford does random smackdowns of artists (Liza v. Aretha) with topics like Plastic Surgery of which he says you can look weird or old. but that “weird is people too.”

I like that he writes his way into his thoughts. As he begins she says, “Monocles in.”

He says there are only two movies of consequence for each of them, (Winfrey would beg to differ, as would I), Moonstruck, Witches of Eastwick, 9 to 5 and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. He says he didn’t make it through Silkwood and Mask. And of Mermaids and Mama Mia 2 he says, “Meh” which actually does map to my feelings. He says considering Burlesque would sink “the SS Mrs. Bono” and I wonder if he knows Christina Aguilera is about to be made that into live show. He happens to love Moonstruck.

He also reminds how great the 9 to 5 cast was. He scores Dolly and Cher evenly here. “It’s tight. Let’s move on.”

Of The Witches of Eastwick, he loves the polyamory aspect in a movie “before everyone was doing it, Jack Nicholson, in a role no other actor could have played” and he loves the Veronica Cartwright cherry scene. (I saw the movie with my high school friends and this was one of our favorite scenes as well.)

Ford also reminds us about Dolly’s two Golden Globe nominations.

Musically, Ford says Dolly and Cher are like peaches and pomegranates.

“Cher’s musical repertoire spans folk rock, disco, pop-rock, dance-pop; she put Auto-Tune on the map; and has died and risen from the ashes so many times, she might be our closest living embodiment to a phoenix ever….she has sold 140 millioin records (including 40 million with Sonny) and has had #1 singles in six consecutive decades.”

But he says he didn’t “become a believer until ‘Believe.'”

“Dolly is country music,” he says. “When she bleeds, Southern Comfort gushes out.” He notes Dolly’s monster songwriting credentials: about 3,000 written and 450 reordered. Dolly also has 11 Grammys to Cher’s one. But he equates Cher’s breadth to Dolly’s depth. Another tie.

Next is Philanthropy: Dolly’s Imagination Library (200 million books donated), The Dollywood Foundation.  He says they both donated 1 million to Covid research. Dolly got publicly vaccinated and for doing so, “she’s a hero,” for setting an “example among demographics who [maybe wouldn’t].” Cher has contributed to AIDS research, poverty initiatives, solders and veterans, LGBTQ+,

“and then there’s the elephant….excuse me for just a moment, I have an onion to chop.”

The last contest is for “America’s Grandma” which was inspired by Betty White.

Betty White really did feel like America’s Grandma. Dolly is more like a fabulous Aunt. Cher is not even a family member, in my mind.

Ford says, “Dolly would be delighted; Cher might be annoyed.”

Yes and No. She would like her own grandchildren. She doesn’t need to be yours.

He reminds us they are in the same age. “Our two divas are class itself,” he says and note that on Cher…Special (1978), they “clearly like each other.”

He ends with, “Dolly is still America’s Grandma, but Cher will probably outlive us all and reinvent herself anew as singer babe mother gypsy tramp thief TV star mother KISS-groupie lesbian mermaid service member tarantula infomercial queen witch Italian-American Jewess nightclub owner singing grandmother Empress of the Universe.”

Amen.

There’s also an article in Portuguese by Victoria Haydee who does Albums of the Month.  (https://substack.com/home/post/p-145360935)

She reviews Joni Mitchell’s Blue, Marianne Faithful’s Broken English (it has a blue cover) and Madonna’s True Blue. She then, for some reason, moves over to Cher’s Heart of Stone. She talks about Cher’s look, her “striking countenance and deep eyes,” “unforgettable clothes, her eras and styles, “the folk style, soon she would become a mysterious gypsy, a powerful witch with her black cat, matured into a daring rocker in the 80s and the futuristic version at the turn of the millennium.”

There are two Believe articles:

Matt Fish commemorated the 25th anniversary (2023) for a series on Numbers Ones (2023)
https://substack.com/home/post/p-136856438

“Like it or not, Cher’s Believe irrevocably changed the face of modern pop music.” He notes it topped the charts in over 20 countries and moved “upwards of 10 million units independently” and “is best know as the first certifiable smash shaped around autotune.”

He tells how the producers lied initially, said the song used the vocoder, “a technology pioneered by Kraftwerk in the 1970s. But that Autotune is in the average producer’s toolbox now. He calls out Daft Punk, Dua Lipa, Kanye West, and T-Pain for their work in Autotune.

“Music snobs can decry its ubiquity and gripe about how it’s “not real” singing, but the fact remains that much of the 21st century’s catchiest songs wouldn’t exist without Cher.”

He says, “there’s more to this record than “Believe” and goes on to talk about that.

“In an era where too much pop music takes itself too seriously, Believe is a fun, nostalgic antidote” and you can “sing along to that iconic warble.”

#1 Believe (https://substack.com/home/post/p-135794943)

Another treatise on the song is found in Italian by Canzonette.

“There are songs that change the course of music history, and it almost always starts from an accident.”

“Cher’s career at the end of the century was (given for) over,” he says and he goes through her highs and “then oblivion again.” He talks about  Brian Higgins’ years of (re)writing the song for demos and how Mark Taylor and Brian Rawling get involved, Then goes into the invention of the technology by Andy Hildbrand who was an electronic engineer and who developed algorithms for sonar to locate oil deposits and the seismic acoustics that led to Antares Technology, or the early version of the plugin “which would change the history of world music and which will cause huge fights between the old and the new generation.” (Canzonette positions the problem generationally. He might be right.)

He delves into it (and this is a Google auto-translation):

“Is using autotune right? Is it an effect or is it like doping in sport? What is the use of splitting singing lessons [if] there is a machine what intones you? (Now to be honest, I don’t believe the false myth that Autontune can fix anyone: you need a half idea, even a vague one, a rudiment of intonation so that the algorithm works as it does best. Of course, the more out of tune and the more you hear the correction, which then becomes a habit, a stylistic element, an identifier, an almost perennial color of the modern drifts of rap and pop–but this does not change the reality of the facts: it cannot fix all.)

There have been countless debates on the matter, a single truth or a solution that would please everyone has never surfaced because it is impossible, even just for an ideological reason, for two distant generations to find themselves…on common ground on something as fragile as technological progress. This is how systematically every x weeks we witness the format Singer From Another Era Who Says His Own Against Those Who Use Autontune, rightly or wrongly, independently.

Note 1: in all fairness, these fingers have the duty to underline how even in the 60s the guitar amplifier and  distortion pedals were seen as the devil.

Setting zero sounds very robotic…in the following years the Autotune manual will call the Setting zero ‘Cher effect.’

He says Cher suggested trying a Roachford vocoder effect. Mark Taylor decided to try the new plugin…

“that thing that instantly makes Cher’s voice intonatissima in an algorithmic, cold robotic way. It looks like the vocoder, but a vocoder it is not….. we could talk about…how, even today, the piece sounds fresh and innovative, despite the sound of Autotine is now absolutely everywhere, from trap to new records crooner like Bublé.

“…there are passages, fore example the initial one ,”I can’t break through,” in the first verse in which Cher’s voice breaks, she becomes roboticfor the first time in the history of music in an audible and desired way and at the same time is extremely emotional…”

He notes when Kayne West  “abandons the alpha male character” to use it, suggesting the use of Autotune is gendered and feminine. Which judging the amount of male rappers who use it…

“If you want to know other and further modern evolutions of the Autotune: turn on the radio.”

Feisty!

Cher, The Original It Girl by Vee (https://substack.com/home/post/p-153684192)

This is a style and fashion article from an Armenian perspective. Vee calls the 1970s Cher’s “defining decade” and she recalls her first Cher impression, “watching my mom get ready in Armenia” while listening to “Believe” and “Heart of Stone.” She says Cher is one of Armenia’s few international stars. She traces her quirky, counterculture style of the 60s,to the TV star and fashion icon of the 70s.

“(Sonny was also there.)”

Here is her gallery of Cher 70s fashion kills:

She then mentions that the solo spots of Cher’s variety shows became increasingly, elaborately staged. Here is her gallery of looks from the TV shows:

She remarks about how Cher thrived in “predominantly white entertainment industry” and mentions the work of Bob Mackie and she makes what is probably the most astute summary of Cher’s impact of the fashion culture:

“She became a walking revolution in fashion, redefining what it meant to be glamourous, edgy and unapologetically individualistic…an aesthetic that fused Old Hollywood grandeur with a daring, futuristic edge. Her style wasn’t about looking good–it was a statement of self-expression, definance and liberation.

Cher rejected the understated norms of the the time in favor of extravagance and risk. Her looks weren’t just clothes–they were moments of performance art, each outfit telling it’s own story….with her sharp cheekbones, almond-shaped eyes and long black hair, she embraced her erotic features which stemmed from her Armenian heritage…a powerful act of self-empowerment.

Her wardrobe inspired generations of artists and designers. From the daring cut-outs seen on modern runways to the maximalist red-carpet looks seen on our favorite stars.

Her story encourages to embrace change, own your unique identity…she proved that beauty, success and identity are not one-size-fits all…true icons don’t just reflect the culture, they shape it.”

Wow. That was great!

 

As I said on a recent Substack article, the days of us all being on the same social platform are probably doing away for all of us, Cher, herself, isn’t very active on X/Twitter anymore, where she used to be one of everyone’s favorite Tweeters. Or as much on Facebook either (she even removed her account there for a time) and now she’s more on TikTok or Instagram maybe, but those platforms have their own issues. Cher has never been very good at posting her news from her own sites anyway. Fan clubs and sites tend to get their news elsewhere. Who knows how long those fans will stay on their platforms. The winds of change are afoot.

The Wonderful, Surprising, Funny Uber Eats Commercial

I’ve been talking to some Cher fans who believe we’re in a new golden age of Cher, starting from the release of the Funko Pop dolls to the record re-releases through the Christmas album, the Forever compilation, the Hall of Fame moment, the memoirs and now this year’s out-of-the-blue Uber Eats commercial, which was smarter and more self-depreciating than anything Cher has done in a while. Not to mention being hip and well made.

If we digress a moment and go back and count the prior golden ages:

  1. New Artist Phase: 1965-66, Sonny & Cher are the latest music fad
  2. Sonny’s Killer Comeback Phase: 1971-76, TV star and Cher becomes one of the most photographed women in the world
  3. Strong Woman Comeback Phase: 1985-89, Cher becomes a popular and respected actress and charts with a new string of MTV-era hits
  4. Breaking-Age-Records Comeback Phase: 1998-99, I would argue that “Believe” was more of an intense blip (based on one hit song) but it was the most intense of worldwide, culture-dominating blips so it counts
  5. And so this would be the fifth golden age, the Icon Phase (and with humor; so nice we don’t have to deal with all that self-seriousness!)

I’ve been waiting so long to talk about this ad campaign but we had so much else to do first. Here we go…

The Original Ad (from Uber Eats YouTube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UUz5R4FsX0

We are at Cher’s house presumably with many depictions of international luxury, the ornate walls with hidden cupboards, gold records hanging, one of Cher’s iconic pirate outfits on a mannequin (very Australian choice), portable racks of clothes (not something normal people have), high ceilings, jewels hanging randomly off things.

In the second shot we make out that we’re in Cher’s bedroom. She’s looking at herself in the mirror and we see her bed behind her. She’s wearing a now-iconic Cher outfit, the short skirt, embellished leather jacket (in this case studded holes), big hoop earrings. Her own song, “Turn Back Time,” is playing in the background and she’s humming along. We see a closeup of her ordering from Uber Eats, with gem-glued nails, on her smartphone. She types “Time Machine” and you can see her last search was for “antiaging cream.” (Psst! She’s just like us; this is also a foreshadow of the claims of her agelessness to come.) She turns around when the doorbell rings (it’s here already?!). We see her mirror is strewn with jewels.

(click to enlarge)

Cher exits ornate doors. Uber Eats has a diminutive green bag waiting there with a time machine inside. (The foley on her books is too much and not synced, but that’s my only single quibble.) She wistfully asks to be taken to the 80s. (Cher herself is like a time-machine and so this is the most magical of scenarios.) She blissfully awaits the time travel.

But when the time machine is done we see that Cher should have been more specific in her request. We get the best sight gag of the commercial: Cher sitting astride a cannon being pulled by men. It’s the 1680s not the 1980s. It’s now a fish-out-of-water gag with Cher dressed like modern Cher (but with some 80s-throwback references) interacting with technically Restoration Period (I looked it up and asked around) villagers.

This is a big joke about an iconic moment in her 1980s video for “Turn Back Time.” The villagers are caked with grime, exhausted-looking and very perplexed. Cher exclaims, “This isn’t the 80s!” A villager says “Tis the 1680s.” Bad weather looms in the background. A woman looks at Cher closely and with disgust and says, “She’s both young and old…at the same time!” This is a joke about Cher’s face, a joke somewhere between her genetic youthfulness and plastic surgery controversies.

In the background an old woman stuck in a pillory (presumably for being deemed a witch) screams, “She’s a witch!” (After all, only a witch could stay so young looking.) A Ye Olde music band gasps in dismay. Cher defends herself badly, “I’m not a witch, I’m an icon.” (This is funny because Cher is always dismissive about her status as an icon. So she often jokes sardonically about being an icon.)

A somewhat flamboyant judge deems Cher a witch immediately without much of a legitimate trial. (There are a lot of bits in this ad about projection or a sort of defensive judging outward; Cher is also being scapegoated for appearing so strange to them). The band furiously plays “Turn Back Time” which is the second funniest piece of this commercial. That they would know the song, that these performers throw themselves into playing it so enthusiastically.

Immediately Cher finds herself being burned at the stake before the song is even finished. Cher shows no fear while being burned. She just wants to know if one of the villagers has taken her boots. “Are those my boots?” They pan up from the bedazzled knee-high boots as worn on a 1680s man (which is a nod to the first Cher drag moment). Note the man next to boots-guy. He is falling in love with Cher and will appear in a later extension of the commercial. The judge is dancing in his chair to the spectacle, (an early gay male Cher fan?) and the “witch” lady is out of the pillory and the first one to light the straw. Cher just looks annoyed. “This is ridiculous,” she says.

Cher is then back in her kitchen with an Uber Eats bag full of Thyme. The tag reads, “Time Machine No Thyme Yes.” Cher is cooking and humming her song.

In a season full of nostalgic celebrity Superbowl-era ads, this one stood out. Not a false note in it.

Since then, at least three shorts have come out, which is great because these are all fabulous characters to spend time with. For some reason these shorts are not on the Uber Eats YouTube account.

The Turn Back Time Short (posted by Cher World)
 https://www.facebook.com/reel/647856634558628

Maybe it finally rained, extinguishing the stake-burning, or maybe Cher won over the villagers but in these mini-ads she has escaped. In this short she is trying to teach the 1680s musicians how to play “Turn Back Time” but they go crazy with embellishments. They’re actually pretty good but Cher doesn’t like it and and is deflated at the end, saying just “No.”  The tag at the end says, “Band No Bandages Yes” showing a bag full of bandage boxes.

The Uber Eats App Short (posted by CherWorld)
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2082878045459781

Cher is in the middle of explaining to the “she-looks-young-and-old-at-the-same-time” woman what Uber Eats app is. Of course the woman has no cultural context for any of this and Cher is not explaining it very well and getting frustrated. “What’s a phone?” “It’s used to call people!” The woman calls out “Call people? Like ‘Good Morrow!'” Cher gives up and says. “I hate this place.” (as you would imagine Cher would). The ad ends with the tag, “Get almost almost anything.”

These shorts hint that Cher is somehow stuck in this era (maybe the time machine broke) and these frustrating conversations are ongoing.

It’s brilliant because it sparks your own imagination.

17th Century Courting (Cher posted this one on her Facebook account)
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1594724681206784

During the stake-burning, one of the villagers was falling for Cher. Let’s call him bad-teeth guy. He tries a pick-up line on Cher: “Dost thou have a map? For I keep getting lost in thine eyes.” (I can imagine the writer’s room full of these joke pitches: 1960s pickup lines!) And then he raises his eyebrows and winks at her. Cher says, “never gonna happen, honey” looking annoyed. The door bell rings. Off-screen we hear Cher say, “not a snowflake’s chance in hell” and the final tag reads “Romance No Roma Tomatoes Yes” with a bag full of fresh and canned tomatoes showing.

There’s eternally bad weather in this place.

Australian Today Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKvk7Qe0fWU

Australia’s Today Show did a behind-the-scenes interview with Cher in January with Reid Butler and they talk about Cher being called an icon. Cher says (endearingly), “I’m just a working girl.” (A lot of this commercial is about common perceptions of Cher.) Butler sees the commercial as full of “Ozzy humor…being not afraid to make fun of yourself.” Did that draw her to the ad? Cher says no but she loved the humor in it. She talks about her mother’s sense of humor.

They don’t answer the question of what drew her to the ad. Probably the money I would guess.

They talk about the canon-moment of the ad. “It was crazy. Look, it was silly and it was fun.” With a time machine, Cher says she would go back to her 40s (the 1980s) and how that was a great time for her. She says she felt like she was 20 and went from doing a play on Broadway to Silkwood and how things “just fell into place by accident.”

They then talk about Cher’s newly published memoir. And then about how rough 2025 has started and did Cher have some words for those of us who have been feeling down. Cher references her town in California and they show an image of the then-ongoing Los Angeles fires. Cher says she admires the LA spirit and “we’ll come back but people will have to work really hard.” Cher says she missed out on one of the benefits because she wasn’t decisive enough. They show footage of the devastation. She talks about the unfortunate national vs. state politics. “I can’t imagine how terrified people are,” she says.

They then move over to discussing Bob Mackie. They talk about Cher’s two favorite dresses, the 1986 Oscar F.U. dress and the 1974 Met Gala dress. The Australians call her “feisty and fabulous” and “every inch the icon.”

I keep fantasizing that I have moved to Australia and Cher is already there.

Sigh.

What Comes To You

I picked this book up a few weeks ago from my local bookstore and finished it last night, The Beatles Guide to Love and Sex by Scott Robinson. (George is the only Beatle who doesn’t look vaguely like himself.) Anyway, it’s self-published and strewn with some typos and formatting snafus and is a little bit gossipy. But the book does do some valuable analysis of Beatle lyrics and song structures (which were over my head) and it does a fair job penetrating the 1960s male mind from the backward-looking sensibility of its genderly-fair-minded and yet sensual author.

But I have to say, my big takeaway from the book was a re-evaluation of Cher’s current favorite adage that what belongs to you comes to you. Which is an odd takeaway for me, I guess, but one that solidified slowly as I was reading the book. Because these aren’t normal 1960s guys depicted here. They are privileged men of the music business.

Cher says this phrase about projects and acting roles mostly, what belongs to you comes to you, but you could also imagine her saying it about awards, boyfriends and husbands or gelato profits.

I’ve always loved the phrase myself from a spiritual perspective. It helps tamp-down on envy and regret. And all sorts of theft, from petty to grand. Saying it helps you feel better when others pass you by on the professional ladder. Saying it also helps keep you focused on your karmic goals: that is not mine or that is not mine for this lifetime.

It helps you move on.

But there’s a difference when someone in show business (successfully) says this because their lives are structured to have others fetch what comes to them, from groceries to women (in the Beatles case), or have others facilitate what comes to them (as in the case of female stars who may not necessarily fetch men in the same way but who fetch plenty of other things).

Cher admittedly doesn’t know how to order a pizza. She admits, a bit glibly, that she doesn’t know her own house address or phone number. You would need a staff to do your fetching then, people who do know those things and can convey to others where those things (that may or may not belong to you) should arrive.

She tells one story a lot recently (in memoir interviews and it’s in the musical) about having trouble with math and her mother telling her, “Don’t worry, sweetheart. Someday you will have someone to do math for you.” Everyone is amazed at the foresight in this comment but I have never liked that story and reading this book made me understand why.

Good for Cher. She has help with math because she’s got “people to do that.”  There are an estimated 780 million other people with dyslexia who don’t have someone to do math for them. Add to that all the people who are like me and just dumb at math.

It’s interesting to consider how things come to you (and indeed whether they belong to you) when you have a staff to make them happen for you. A lot of math problems come to me and I’m not so sure they belong to me as much as I can’t afford to make them someone else’s problem. (Well, i can afford it in a small way; For a few years I haven’t done my own taxes but I have a feeling that problem may be coming back to me soon and it’s not because that problem belongs to me.)

This is not to say Cher doesn’t personally hustle. Or that her staff can make anything she wants happen. Obviously, this isn’t true. But I’m sure it limits what Cher personally is willing to go out and get. Like a pizza.

Some things that come to you may not even belong to you. And some things that belong to you require going out to get them. How do you know the difference when you’re surrounded by architectures of gofering?

And if the problem stands for a pizza, maybe it stands for relationships and spiritual karma as well.

The Cher Show Musical in Phoenix

The Cher Show traveling musical is now in its second year around the U.S. The closest it has come to me has been Phoenix (or maybe Denver). And those cities are a 7-hour drive in either direction, far from really “close.” And this is not the kind of show I would travel farther than Kansas City to see.  The first incarnation of the traveling show was set to come to our Popejoy Hall on the beautiful campus of the University of New Mexico here in Albuquerque where I have seen many other traveling once-Broadway shows.

But that whole enterprise was cancelled before it began due to COVID. The reboot show has not returned to Albuquerque for some reason. We get plenty of pop and rock shows finding there way to us as a second or third-tier market. Since I’ve been here I’ve seen Elton John (solo, bucket list) at Tingley Coliseum at the city fairgrounds (where my parents once saw Johnny Cash in the 1970s and where Sonny & Cher came to play), Bob Dylan at the Kimo Theater, Sammy Hagar and Don Williams at the surrounding casinos (Route66 and Isleta respectively). I have yet to visit our local amphitheater although I came close to seeing Elvis Costello on tour with Steely Dan there (I had seen Steely Dan already at the Riverport amphitheater, now Hollywood Casino amphitheater in St. Louis).

All to say I’m hoping The Cher Show comes to Popejoy in year three.

But I do have a few friends and relatives in Phoenix and one of them is journalist Robrt Pela, who you may know from previous Cher Scholar conversations and interviews. I decided to head out in that direction for the 28 March 2025 show at The Mesa Arts Center. I really wanted to see it again because the first time was mostly a Broadway blur.

While I was in Cleveland a few months ago moving my parents, Robrt and I did a Phoenix Magazine conversation about the show and then the day before the show we did another brief conversation at the KJZZ studio for NPR. It was the first radio station I’d ever been in and it looked just like any other office space. Later that weekend when I was talking about the experience to my cousin, she asked me what I was expecting and I said WKRP.

Unlike the 2022-23 British version of the tour last year (which had unique costumes, sets and assets), this show appears to be a simplified replica of the Broadway show.

We have a new cast and I’m now noticing the interesting combinations of characters played by single actors. These are the major parts:

  • 1980s Cher, a.k.a. the Star (sometimes called Icon or Badass) played by Morgan Scott in her second year
  • 1970s Cher, a.k.a. the Lady (sometimes called the glam pop star or the Smartass) played by Catherine Ariale in her second year
  • 1960s Cher, a.k.a. the Babe (sometimes called the Kid or the Sweetheart) played by Ella Perez in her second year
  • Sonny played by Lorenzo Pugliese (who played Joe Pesci in a show of Jersey Boys similar to Jarrod Spector who also played Frankie Valli in Jersey Boys on Broadway, which is telling about the crossover of the Sonny role to the Italians in Jersey Boys)
  • Georgia Holt/Lucille Ball played by Kristin Rose Kelleher (the press sheet for this show listed actress Lucy Werner, as does the Wikipedia page) so were we seeing a new, unlisted understudy or has Werner left?)
  • Bob Mackie/Robert Altman/Frank played by Tyler Pirrung
  • Gregg Allman/John Southall played by Zack Zaromatidis (which kind of turns Gregg Allman into a southern-style father figure here, which is not really what he was for Cher)
  • Robert Camilletti played by Brooks Andrew
  • Phil Spector/Sid the Censor/Male ET Reporter played by Kevin Michael Buckley (kind of a subset of villains)
  • Infomercial Director/Digby the Writer played by Mark Tran Russ (another set up even larger villains…these two get a big amount of shade in this musical and, by the way, Digby Wolfe was the head writer on Cher in 1975)

(click to enlarge)

I like to crowd-watch these things. Most of the audience was comprised of older couples and groups of women. This might because younger people don’t go to these shows. There was one young, gay couple ahead of us who seemed very into it, as did the groups of women around me.

There were a lot of gray-heads, including mine. But talking to my group, we thought we might have skewed younger than most of the crowd.  One blonde woman in the row ahead talked about having bought a Cher doll.

I took notes this time at the risk of looking weird. Which is something I wasn’t willing to do at the Neil Simon Theater on Broadway.

The show started with an audio cacophony of Cher from interviews and other clips. A pack of sailors enters with the 80s-Cher dressed in the Hole fit. This was a hippier, more full-figured Cher. And I like these variations. She was less of a powerhouse of a singing voice than the other two but my group all agreed she had the best talking voice. I don’t see why the “Cher voice” is necessary but people seem to like to understand Cher as this drawling creature (they, likewise, make Sonny cartoonishly nasally) when normal people using normal voices would probably do. My group noted that this show is very old Broadway and I agree that the characters were all broadly played. “Cher puts the Broad in Broadway”…okay I’ll stop now.

One thing this musical does is that it embellishes. This Cher’s holefit had wings. Which is a fiction. Which reminds us, this isn’t a documentary. It’s part fiction. It has embellishments and conflations. Cher never wore wings with her holefits. The holefit was enough.

Likewise, the 60s Cher also was not known for bare midriffs. She showed much less skin in the 1960s. But the archetypical Cher outfit for 60s Cher is a halter top. So 70s Cher is dressed too conservatively and 60s Cher too scantily.

One of the things Robrt Pela and I talk about in the interview is a survey of fans and non-fans I did years ago that amounted to people saying Cher was resilient and strong (as a single impression). The musical underscores how this is only part of the story and really focuses on Cher’s fear and the overcoming of fear. This time I noted all the ways it does this. Cher, according to both this musical and her memoir, never feels naturally, organically strong and fearless. The 60s Cher is especially shy and tentative. Which means, this is something we project on to her as an audience. We see the results not her struggle to get there.

During the scene where Georgia and John Southall, Cher’s step-dad, (as opposed to John Sarkisian, her biological dad), take little Cher to Grauman’s Chinese Theatre, Georgia tells Cher, “life can be scary.” There’s another line about fear, “the real you is terrified.” Another line: “See what happens when you high-kick fear in the butt?” And “being shit scared and facing it anyway.”

One of the effects of seeing a Broadway show is shock and awe, usually from the huge stage sets. My first Broadway show was Sunset Boulevard. And I remember thinking, this set is bigger than my Yonkers apartment! The traveling show has traveling sets which are quite a bit smaller and scaled down. The show relies a lot on projected images and a few, representative pieces, like a dressing table to signify Cher’s childhood house. But thankfully there is still a plethora of wigs, costumes and love beads.

And I found it interesting to watch the show after reading Cher’s 2024 memoir. Because not only do we know the story better now, we get more detail in the book. All the broad strokes are fleshed out. Which makes the show seem super-simplistic. Plus the events are not new to readers anymore. But this show is still a good option for those who don’t read celebrity memoirs.

When Georgia tells the kid Cher (technically is this the fourth Cher?) “you may not be the prettiest, smartest most talented,” I heard the crowd in front audibly laugh/groan. Cher has said this quote from her mother for decades. As time goes by, it has less punch. (The crowd did not agree. I do not agree. Howard Stern did not agree). Contrast this to the very similar Silkwood story about the audience laughing when Cher’s name came up during the previews. We feel great sympathy for Cher but we find that event believable. She was undervalued. It’s the flipside of the Georgia Holt story. Holt is talking to a pre-swanned Cher. There’s dramatic irony going on there added to the fact most of Cher’s fans find Cher prettier than Cher finds herself.

When Cher meets Sonny, she is intimidated and embarrasses herself with some inane small talk, “I’m a taurus” and Sonny responds disdainfully, “I’m a Bono.” This dialogue isn’t in the memoir. The musical also claims Sonny is 28 when they meet instead of 27. The musical also has Cher saying, “I like to run through fields of flowers” which if you’ve seen Good Times…

Our party commented that seeing the characters Bridget and Coleen felt like an Easter-egg and at one point one of them tells Sonny that Cher is “someone who will make you feel ten feet tall.” (This is a very concise, telling and bittersweet line.)

The show conflates Cher’s first two meetings of Phil Spector. According to the memoir, she didn’t actually meet him with Sonny. She had met him before with previous boyfriend, Red. This is where they had the famous French exchange which is not depicted here. (Spector: “Coulez vous coucher avec moi?”  Cher’s sassy response: “Pour de l’argent.”)

The Spector sessions scene has a great line though, maybe from Sonny: “Like Columbus, the world before Cher was flat.”

The audience engaging in spontaneous clapping gave me cognitive dissonance, to be honest. I’ve been one of a marginalized fan group for so many decades, I initially wonder how non-Cher fans even know these famous tags and triggers? Like S&C coming out to sing “I Got You Babe” (in those furry Sonny boots and there was a story about those in the memoir), or some semi-famous Cher quip, (the line, “I am a rich man”). And then I realize, oh yeah…hundreds of people have now come to a roadshow musical because they actually like Cher (or were dragged here by someone who does…being a Barry Manilow fan didn’t teach me nothin’). Cher’s F.U. Oscar dress eliciting big applause is another example.

The scenes in 60s England were represented with four TV monitors (depicting the flurry of their appearances there) and Union Jacks. Sonny & Cher wear retro-I-Got-You-Babe outfits. Or rather, our shorthanded idea of them, but not exactly it. Similar to Bob Mackie’s recreations for Cher’s “All I Really Want to Do/The Beat Goes On” moments in live shows.

The musical calls them “the world’s first hippies.” Were they though? Possibly. They did fall in between activities of the Beats and the psychedelic bands.

One of the anachronistic things about this musical is the scrambling up of the musical timeline.” When the Money’s Gone” plays with Sonny (so we can re-read this song as Cher’s challenge to Sonny’s love: would he love her without the money she earns for him; and we are left with doubts on this point). My normal distaste for images used in the wrong decade is suspended when song order is scrambled on purpose to raise questions or when lyrics are rewritten for the dramatic situation.

To break it down: we start, of course, with “Turn Back Time” because this is what storytelling is doing. The UK show also included “Believe” in the intro part of the show.

Songs signifying childhood include:

  • Half Breed (Cher is part Armenian and looking dramatically different than her mother and sister)
  • A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes (from Disney’s Cinderella)  (not in the official cast recording)
  • You Better Sit Down Kids (which was changed to “You Better Sit Down Kid” in the UK and traveling US programs and does not get included on the cast recording)
  • Half Breed is then reprised (in the traveling UK and US shows)

Meeting Sonny and Phil Spector-era songs include:

  • Da Do Ron Ron (The Crystals) (not in the cast recording)
  • Be My Baby (The Ronettes) (not in the cast recording)
  • The Shoop Shoop Song (signifying the 60s)
  • I Like It Like That (a Dave Clark Five song in the US/Broadway show that took up valuable real estate for little gain, we thought, and was non included in the UK version or on the cast recording)

Career with Sonny songs include:

  • I Got You Babe
  • Little Man (not in the cast recording)
  • When The Money’s Gone
  • All or Nothing (Not listed in the Phoenix program but I vaguely remember it)
  • Vamp (not in the cast recording)
  • Aint Nobody’s Business If I Do (the Mackie parade)
  • Bang Bang (only in UK and traveling US show)
  • Living in  House Divided (a rare treat)
  • Bang Bang (Reprise for UK and traveling US shows)
  • Believe (Ballad)
  • All I Ever Need Is You (UK position only, the song is moved to Act II for the US shows)
  • Song for the Lonely (interesting end for the Sonny-era)

Solo/Gregg Allman Era songs include:

  • All I Ever Need Is You (US shows only)
  • Heart of Stone (US shows only)
  • Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves
  • Midnight Rider (Gregg Allman)
  • Ramblin’ Man (The Allman Brothers Band) (US shows only)
  • Just Like Jesse James
  • Believe (UK only)
  • Dark Lady
  • Baby Don’t Go (Sonny’s departure) (not in the cast recording)

Post Husbands/Movie Era songs include:

  • Strong Enough
  • When the Money’s Gone (not in the cast recording)
  • The Way of Love (as an acting performance)’
  • The Beat Goes On (movie montage)
  • It Don’t Come Easy (Phoenix show program) (the Ringo Starr song? I don’t remember this)
  • D’ove L’amore (UK only)
  • I Found Someone (video with Robert Camilletti)

Last songs include:

  • A Different Kind of Love Song  (UK only)
  • Heart of Stone (UK position only)
  • We All Sleep Alone (UK only, removed August 2022)
  • Song for the Lonely (UK added August 2022)
  • I Got You Babe Reprise (UK and US traveling shows only)
  • You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me (Broadway and UK only)
  • I Hope You Find It (UK shows in my program but not on Wikipedia)
  • A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes Reprise (US shows only according to my UK program but not listed on Wikipedia and also not in the cast recording)

Finale Medley (US traveling show didn’t list the medley they played)

  • Believe
  • Strong Enough
  • Woman’s World
  • You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me (Broadway only)
  • D’ove L’amore (UK only)
  • Shoop Shoop Song (UK only)
  • I Found Someone (UK only)
  • Believe Again (UK only)
  • Take Me Home (Curtain Call, US only)

So you can see how the songs were used out of order to further the plot. This makes the show a new thing and not just a kind of Review of her existing songs. You can’t sing along to this.  Songs are put into dramatic medleys and used as segues.

I did not know this until Robrt told me but “When the Money’s Gone” is a cover of Bruce Roberts (1995). A nice, sweet version with juicy alternative lines like “Shred the credit cards/just like Watergate” and “black and white TV. When the weekend comes, we can watch Pee Wee.”)

The scene with the television show seem rough as it’s mostly about Sonny’s slave-driving and temper. The joy of working, depicted in the memoir, is absent from the musical. There are lines about bad writing, too, (which is a bit unfair considering the cultural work the show did for women) and there’s a line from about Cher being dismissed with “it’s all about the clothes anyway” which goes into the James Brown song “It’s a Man’s World” (in my notes but not depicted in any of the show programs). This was probably true but it doesn’t map to the memoir, where the censors were discussed but not so much the struggles to work around bad writing. Besides, some of those writers went on to do big things (Steve Martin, Bob Einstein). The musical is dismissive without details.

The big Bob Mackie number really wowed the Broadway crowd. I checked my program pics to confirm this but this show’s parade of outfits couldn’t be track back to real Cher outfits as easily in the traveling show. The Broadway show had recreations of the real iconic Cher outfits: the Ringmaster, one of her recent live Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves outfits, the D2K opener, Laverne, the Rhinestone Cowboy fit from the solo TV show. There was a male dancer in the Phoenix show in drag wearing the Take-Me-Home-Viking-fit with a bare ass that got a big laugh. Looking back at my Broadway program, it was a male dancer in the Half-Breed outfit for that show. So, similar to the UK show, the costumes have been reworked and made “in the style” of Cher, aside from one or two emblematic efforts (like the “I Got You Babe” outfits and the “Take Me Home” one).

The woman next to me would grunt whenever Sonny said something sexist or mean, like she was feeling it viscerally. In fact, there was applauding when Sonny was finally shuffled out of Cher’s life. That seemed harsh, even though Sonny was harsh himself. Sonny was played so broadly, as we’ve said, his scary lines seemed super-scary. And Sonny did have his scary moments but they were conflated here with his controlling moments. For example, he slammed a wall in their 60s kitchen, not a glass mirror in their 70s dressing room (according to the memoir).

The Gregg Allman part never ceases to feel very kitschy. I mean, Gregg Allman…as a character…in a big, broad musical? Singing Cher songs? A Gregg Allman impersonator? It’s just so wonderfully weird. He sings pieces of “Midnight Rider” and “Ramblin’ Man” which reminds me of a meme my friend Coolia just sent me (unrelated):

Sonny and Gregg Allman expressing their discomfort in stepping over each other in Cher’s life during the late 1970s via the song “Dark Lady” and Cher’s duet with Allman on “Just Like Jesse James” are strangely satisfying for the audience.

They mistakenly call the post-solo, reboot of the Sonny & Cher Show, the Comedy Hour and the show wasn’t cancelled after a half a season as the musical states, more like two half seasons and 34 episodes.

In the Robert Altman (discovering Cher as an actress) scene, the audience laughed at Cher’s casual Popeye comment and in this case the musical elaborated farther than the memoir did, having Cher qualify her critique: “It was just so dark.”

There was another line in the musical about there being basically two emotions, fear and love and love is the better side of it because it’s full of vulnerability. (Which is very astute.)

The infomercial filming seemed revealingly harsh, the depiction of the director. That didn’t seem pleasant.

And even though they cheered when he exited, we all got teary when Sonny came back as a ghost. Cher still needed to talk to him.

The Assets

This show has no swag. I tried to remember the traveling shows of my youth and can’t remember swag at the outdoor Muny theater in St. Louis either after Show Boat. But then, I wouldn’t have gone looking for it.

On my ticket, this introduction was printed: “Superstars come and go. Cher is forever. For six straight decades, only one unstoppable force that has flat-out dominated popular culture – breaking down barriers, pushing boundaries and letting nothing and no one stand in her way.” [Ok that sentence is a bit much. Things did, in fact, stand in her way quite often], the kid, the glam pop star and the icon. 35 smash hits, two rock-star husbands, a Grammy, Oscar, Emmy…enough…Bob Mackie gowns to create a sequin shortage in New York City, all in one unabashedly fabulous new musical that will have audience dancing in the aisles!”

Well, in Phoenix they weren’t.

While we were all talking about how we became Cher fans, I told the story of starting out as a Sonny & Cher fan, how I loved their charisma, their glamour (another visiting cousin confided to me last weekend she had a crush on Sonny), their glamour and how they were never boring. How Cher has carried on that tradition and how I can now enjoy being a fan through scholarly digs and also the same childhood delight.

Impersonators can’t recreate that. The impersonation gets in the way.

Robrt and I also talked about how this show is about anxiety and fear as much as resilience. About the great wall of fear. And how Cher’s impact and legacy may still be evolving in these very times of political fear. We’re gonna need these lessons in overcoming anxiety. This is a time when the powers in place want to put women and minority groups back in our place (their words). And therefore, this musical takes on a practical value, being as much about vulnerability as it is about heroics. We see Cher doing this work of encouraging us during her Hall of Fame speech last October: “don’t give up, you belong here.”

At least, it affects me that way personally.

This musical is one of the lucky things we have now that provide meaning for the last seven decades of Cher: music, a musical, a memoir, dolls, perfumes, a skin care line, a Vegas poker machine, cookbooks, maybe someday a movie, a video game, a board game, who knows.

Cher’s Recent Live Appearances

The Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show (15 October 2024)

This whole new Cher season started with this fashion show in October of 2024. Cher sang two songs surrounded by models dancing on the runway. There was a big, fabulous ELVIS-like Cher sign in lights behind her that became a grid of lights as she sang. The amazing thing to me was that she still managed to steal focus from these amazingly beautiful women. At 78 years old.

She sang “Strong Enough” and “Believe.” She hasn’t performed “Strong Enough” live much outside of the days when it was a single during the Believe-era so this was nice surprise. Her voice sounds huskier but she still sounded great. She sang with dancers here who by the end of the song build her a gold pedestal. We see the models watching from backstage. Their faces!

Then when Cher sings “Believe” from the gold pedestal, the models come out. Even in bright red underthings with Dr. Seussian attachments that would seem a bit dangerous to navigate in amorous situations (my favorite was the gargantuan boa cape because it looks so soft), Cher still commands the stage. You can see the models singing along as they walk. The changeup at the end of the song. It’s all great.

Although normally fashion shows bore me to tears (aside from seeing what Cher wore to some of them), this was my favorite performances of this season.

Full Show (min 29)

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (19 October 2024)

I wrote about this at length in another post. As a full, 5-hour concert, the event was fun. But Cher’s opening numbers, both “Believe” with Dua Lipa  and “Turn Back Time” were both lackluster. Especially for an event that has often put on some showstoppers. The bar is set high. My party felt  the show started with Cher to open with a fun sort of celebratory bang. But her set wasn’t even as fun and high energy as Kool and the Gang, who came on later.  It wasn’t even as fun as the Victoria’s Secret performance days earlier. It also felt like Cher was struggling through “Turn Back Time.”

But hey, while I was researching this little blurb, I found an article that insisted Cher’s performance was full of “joy and defiance” so maybe it was just me.

SNL 50: Homecoming Concert Special (14 February 2025)

So I have cut down on my streaming channels and I do not have Peacock. I did not get to see this full concert. I only watched Cher’s parts and followed the viral commentary that followed it. So I have no idea where her song fell into the whole show.

Now this performance of “Turn Back Time” was a bit better sounding than the Hall of Fame version (but still a bit of a struggle) but what saved it was the return of her swagger and confidence.

What went viral, however, was all the attention paid to audience reactions, particularly Kevin Costner’s for some reason. His reaction was subdued but he looked like he was really enjoying it. Everyone was talking about Costner almost crushing on Cher for days after the show. And I thought it was kind of overkill because it reminded me of his appearance in Madonna’s documentary Truth or Dare. He was very enthusiastic about Madonna’s live show in that movie and Madonna infamously made fun of it. So we’ve seen Costner appreciating female pop stars. It doesn’t feel special or new. And are we picking on him at this point?

Now Leslie Jones screaming. And what about John Hamm handsomely appreciating Cher? And was that Keegan-Michael Key at the beginning? (I love him.)

Another shocking aspect of the night was the backstage photos of Cher with the rockstars Jack White and Eddie Vedder! And the fact that Jack White put the pictures up on his Instagram. Not expected! One of my friends even surmised it must have been AI, that’s how shocking it was.

And then there was that super cool reel of Cher’s warmup backstage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYnyqMuQGE8

It feels like we’re on another plane here, past the cultural moments of the Hall of Fame and memoir, from legend going into myth.

SNL 50: The Homecoming Concert Special

SNL 50: Celebrity Audience Q&A  (16 February 2025)

And speaking of Costner, a few days after the concert, Cher appeared on the official SNL 50 Special. I tried to record this but muffed it and only taped the red carpet part of the show by mistake. This made me sad because everyone said how funny the show was. But thanks to the Internets I was able to see Cher’s part in the Audience Q&A skit run by Amy Poehler and Tina Fey.

Kevin Costner can be seen seated next to Cher but never smiling. So maybe that was awkward.  Amy Poehler says, “Cher, you have a question…” and Cher says, “Uh no. I don’t. I got a lotta answers.” (This gets a smile out of Costner.)

This was followed by a Keith Richards question about a scarf he’s been missing from a 1988 SNL appearance that ends up on Zach Galifianakis’ head.

SNL 50: Celebrity Audience Q&A

 

Love Rocks NYC Benefit Concert (6 March 2025)

Cher has said she regretted not responding soon enough to have been involved in the concert organized to help survivors of January’s fires in Los Angeles. And maybe this is why she signed on to this NYC benefit concert.

Prior to the show, she visited the food bank God’s Love We Deliver.

At the event, Cher sang “Walking in Memphis,” Song For the Lonely,” “Believe” and with the larger group, “Higher Ground.“

Cher surprised everyone by not only doing songs she rarely sings on television (“Walking in Memphis”) but songs she hasn’t even done live in many years (“Song for the Lonely”). She always seems so tiny in male drag. Cher does a spoken introduction to “Song for the Lonely” and what the song means to her. She does better with this song than “Memphis.”

All songs show their videos behind her when she sings and Cher wears the outfit for the “Song for the Lonely” video. Dancers join her for this. I love the funky “Strong Enough” version between “Song for the Lonely” and “Believe.” She’s dressing down for this in a pink jacket over a sparkly top (that we can barely see) and black pants. A few more dancers, cuts to the audience dancing.

“Higher Ground” felt like a makeup moment for the Hall of Fame, too, since there was no group performance last year. Plus I love this song. Any version of it. Cher singing the group song next to Trey Anastasio from Phish also went a bit viral after the show because Anastasio looked like he was having such a good time.

Days later, he did a tribute to Cher by singing “I Got You Babe” when he launched his solo tour.

After the show were more amazing backstage photos with Cher’s crush Michael McDonald (although they didn’t interact much during the group song), Dave Stewart and guitarist Grace Bowers.

Cher Songs on Rolling Stone’s List of Greatest Songs

Another deep dive.

In late 2024 I came across an online Rolling Stone Magazine article introducing a podcast called “Why Cher’s ‘Believe’ Has Ruled Dance Floors for Nearly Three Decades.”

Rolling Stone had just come out with a 2024 list of their take on the 500 greatest popular songs and “Believe” had made this list. This was interesting to me for two reasons. One, it allowed me another thought-dive into “Believe” and also it reminded me of Cher’s appearances on previous RS lists and how arbitrary these lists are.

1988

Let’s go back in time. Back when I was in high school in St. Louis I had a subscription to Rolling Stone. The September 8, 1988, issue included a list of “100 Best Singles of the Last Twenty Five Years.” Around that time there had been a best albums issue already and my brother Randy (home from college) and I had had a friendly competition to see who had the most albums on the list. Very surprisingly, we tied. (Five years younger, I was fully prepared to lose.)

But anyway, on this 1988 list, which I recently dug out of the Chersonian Institute’s archives, there was one Cher song. Well, almost one song. It was really the Sonny Bono /Jack Nitzsche penned “Needles and Pins” which ranked at #64 between Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart” and Jimi Hendrix’s “All Along the Watchtower.”

To put things in perspective, the #1 and #2 songs on this 1988 list were “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” by the Rolling Stones and “Like a Rolling Stone” by Bob Dylan. Which seems a bit to much rolling stone considering the name of the magazine.

The paragraph write-up about “Needles and Pins” talked about how the 1964 Searchers version had done something “formidable,” in that it “introduced the twelve-string sound, which would become a staple of American bands from The Byrds to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.” Searchers guitarists McNally and Pender then talked about how this came to be by accident.

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This RS write up only mentions one other version of the song, Jackie DeShannon’s 1963 original version. It doesn’t mention Cher’s 1966 version. But then neither does the Wikipedia page on the song, which mention’s the 1977 European hit version by Smokie, the Ramones version in 1978, Tom Petty’s 1985 live version and a smooth 1999 version by Willie DeVille.

But there are others. Here is a sampling:

(After listening to all of these, I need to listen to the inverse song, “Pins and Needles” by Kristina Train just to reset the machine between my ears.)

But nothing was said about the songwriters and plenty more could be said about Sonny’s “best friend” as Cher said in her Memoir of Jack Nitzsche who would go on to become the arranger for Phil Spector during the Wall of Sound era. Nitzsche is often given the most credit for his work on “River Deep Mountain High” with Ike and Tina Turner. He also worked with The Rolling Stones and did the choral arrangements for “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” He would go on to write the scores for movies like Performance, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and The Exorcist and co-wrote “Up Where We Belong” for the movie An Officer and a Gentleman.

2004

But sadly, “Needles and Pins” wouldn’t stay on the next incarnations of RS lists. By 2004 there was an expanded list of 500 songs. And Sonny & Cher allegedly made that list where “I Got You Babe” ranked at #451. By this time, the top two songs had switched spots. “Like a Rolling Stone” by Bob Dylan was #1 and “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” by the Rolling Stones was #2.

2021-2024

On the RS 2021 list, (which started from scratch and then was updated in 2024 with songs from 2021 to early 2024), “I Got You Babe” had fallen off but “Believe” had landed at #338. (I’m not sure if that position maintained between 2021 and 2024 because I haven’t seen the official RS 2021 list. The song may have been at #337 in 2021.)

So “Believe” remains the Cher song on the list. I would not die on the “Believe” hill, as I’ve often said, but “Believe” did introduce a technical trick that became very popular, I guess like the twelve-string in “Needles and Pins.” But that doesn’t mean it was a well-constructed, conceived or a well-written song. It’s value will be remembered in its production. But “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves” had production values that have also stood the test of time. And none of this even speaks to the metaphorical or literary values of a song. Among Sonny’s cowboy songs, for example. “Bang Bang” is certainly undervalued. Or songs that became part of the common lexicon, like “The Beat Goes On” or Diane Warren’s “Turn Back Time” which not only became a meme but has become a yearly meme for the end of daylight savings.

Or maybe it just comes down to votes not values. Where would we be without lists to argue about, I guess.

Music journalists Rob Sheffield (whose 2024 book Heartbreak Is the National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music I just purchased to try to understand that whole phenom) and Brittany Spanos chose “Believe” as one of the 25 songs they would discuss on a podcast created for the 2024 list. And their 6 August 2024  discussion was not only thoughtful and fascinating, as it put thoughtful context around Cher’s entire career, but it also explained how the song “Believe” landed for kids in Great Britain.

I myself did not experience “Believe” as a kid or teen. I was 26 years old and living in Yonkers, New York, hearing the song while driving home from work at Yonkers Contracting and following the song’s weekly charting from my crappy apartment along the Hudson River. I remember being somewhat baffled after coming upon NPR discussing the song one day on my car radio. It was kind of cognitive dissonance for me. Why this song?  So this podcast was interesting to me in that it explains how the song held meaning for an age group that wasn’t mine.

Sheffield and Spanos begin by calling the song “actually perfect…a perfect song,” one that represents the “whole, story, legacy and madness that is pop music.” Spanos says it’s also a song that is “part of the grand story of Cher” and she talks about the ups and downs of her career (big success, big flops and disappearances) and how over the last decade there has been “newfound appreciation” for Cher,” a “Cher revival.” Sheffield talks about the “synthi-ness of the chorus and vocal,” how “new and exciting” it was among other typically Cher-sounding Cher hits of the 1990s. (I think he means 1980s or maybe the late 1980s into the early 1990s, which was the span of her big Geffen-era hits). He said this was a “Cher-like” song on a whole new level.

Spanos talks about being at a friend’s house watching Spice World as a kid and the mother of her friend put  on the DVD for what sounds like the live Farewell tour with the instruction to “pay attention to the wigs.” Spanos says that instruction changed her life. She starts talking about Cher’s history with Sonny. She mistakenly says Sonny was 32 when they met. (Sonny was born in 1935, Cher in 1946. Cher was 16 when they met, Sonny was 27.) Spanos talks about their early pop-folk hits. Sheffield comes in discussing their variety show, how kids would tune in to see which music artists would show that week to perform songs. He said it was a “weekly education in music. They were the DJs.” (This is  overstating it a bit considering the musical acts were often people like Joey Heatherton and Merv Griffin.)

Spanos goes back to talk about the “country/rock covers” of Jackson Highway album and how critics panned it at the time but that it’s actually “a great album.” The digress to say Cher’s swampy “Tonight I’ll Be Staying Here With You” is one of the “greatest versions of a Bob Dylan song.” (They make a joke about “outsung, outsold” that I am on the outside of). Sheffield says Cher’s “Bob Dylan connection itself could take up three whole episodes.”

They then cover her solo TV work of the 1970s. Sheffield says Cher would “steal from everything” and she had “wide open taste.” They talk about the “astounding” performance with David Bowie on her solo TV show, the “insane medley,” one of the “freakiest things ever to air on network TV.” Sheffield then brings up the “insane” West Side Story performance from her 1978 TV special.  Spanos also notes Cher as being “integral in bringing Tina Turner back” on TV for multiple appearances when she was trying to relaunch as a solo artist.

Spanos says Cher then stared a band called Black Roses. She says Black Roses three times incorrectly. (It’s Black Rose). They talk about Spanos’ love of the Broadway Cher musical, how she particularly liked the fictional duet between one of the Chers and Gregg Allman doing the Diane Warren song “Just Like Jesse James.” She did not like the actual duet album which they mistakenly mispronounce (as Howard Stern also did in his 2024 Cher interview) as All Man and Woman. The correct title is Allman and Woman. There is no space between All and Man. It’s literally Gregg Allman’s name, as in Gregg and his woman (oy vey) and not some kind of traditional declaration of gender roles. (This is like trying to differentiate between caveman version 1 and caveman version 2.)

Anyway, Spanos says she cried several times during the musical and they call Cher and Gregg, “an incredible couple.” And I think it is nice that a kind of revisionist kindness in reconsidering this union in a new light these days. Sheffield highly recommends Allman’s memoir, My Cross to Bear, and tells of a Cher story in it where Gregg Allman is trying to pick Cher up for their first date in a limo and Cher exclaims that she will not ride in a funeral car and so they take her Mercedes.

Spanos talks about how Cher is “an experimental person.” Sheffield agrees saying Cher would “do anything” and was “not bothered by genre,” be it disco, southern rock, glam rock, hard rock or a medley or West Side Story songs. He says “she is part of every story in pop music.” Spanos says Cher has been “proven right by history” and critics are looking back and re-evaluating her, seeing that her voice does indeed “sound great” singing in multiple styles. They talk about how every year people rediscover the West Side Story clip and how “insane and fun” it is to watch.

Sheffield goes into Cher’s 80s decade of movies, how “she did it the hard way,” how she had no celebrity inside track to movie roles, how Silkwood was not a Cher-type role and how many actresses saw playing lesbian roles as a “career killer move.” “It cannot be stressed” enough, Sheffield says, how “bold and unprecedented and unexpected and unremarked-upon at the time that was.” Spanos talks about the iconic, respected actors Cher co-starred with and how Cher “is holding her own” along side them. Sheffield calls her performance in Mask “astounding,” that she played a working-class biker mom, a character that was very “unglamourous, gritty and unsaintly.” Spanos says that in all Cher’s movie roles she was de-glamming, dressing down, playing an everywoman.” And at the same time, she was having hits like “Turn Back Time,” balancing her gritty acting roles with glam-Cher music moments, keep her acting career going while relaunching as a rock vocalist. Spanos talks about the the “Turn Back Time” video “onesie” outfit. Sheffield enthusiastically remembers “the entire U.S. Navy” on the war ship.

They then talk about the struggles of the 1990s and Cher’s battle with the Epstein-Barr Virus, how she was seen (again) as “past her prime.” There were the informercials and the Writing Camp album (Not Commercial) recorded in 1994 but not released until 2000. Spanos calls it an introspective “great album, one of the first Internet-only releases.” They talk about her reunions with Sonny and his death in 1998. Spanos recalls Cher’s “stunning” and “heartbroken” eulogy for Sonny and how the loss of someone so transformative might have affected her performance in “Believe.”

As they set up talking about “Believe,” they acknowledge that Cher was seen as “washed up” for the first time in her late teens! She’s now in her 50s. She was “not expected to be still going into her 30s.” The song becomes thematic of her resilience. Spanos calls it “one of the great dance songs of all time” and she explains how it arrived during the dance renaissance of the late 90s, the “euro dance club wave,” that the song was an “unexpected sound from a 50 year old.”

They talk about the popularity of what became known as Auto Tune, how the song was ahead by decades in its influence on rap artists like T-Pain and Kanye West. Sheffield clarifies that it is not a vocoder but pitch correction and Spanos talks about how the song is “one of the great hopeful, euphoric dance songs” and how “do you believe in life after love” is a “gutting line.” (Because how common it is to feel like life itself cannot go on after a great, failed love.) They talk about the song in the context of Cher’s 1990s “major health issues” and her “uncertain future,” losing Sonny, one of the great loves of her life…a great love.” Sheffield says the technology is not used to hide” or “to fix flaws,” that the technology “is flaunted” and that right around “the self-doubting part of the song” you get this “flutter” and “vocal pirouette,” that the song is “blatantly digital” and “robotic” in a way that “makes it sound more human.” Cher “expresses a part of the song by altering her voice.”

Spanos talks about how the producer Mark Taylor wanted to experiment with the pitch correction and Cher wasn’t afraid of it. They claim, as does Cher, that the song “changed pop music” and they remind us that the record won a Grammy. Spanos said the song also made people re-evaluate artists in their 50s, especially women, that hitting the age of 50 need not mean the end of one’s chart-making career. Spanos insists that “Cher only gets more popular every single year” and that she’s a “beloved figure in entertainment history.” She talks about Cher’s “remarkable Twitter account” and Sheffield thinks that Twitter “will only be remembered as part of Cher’s timeline.”

(I believe the Twitter/Cher thing is long past. Cher moved to posting social media content on Instagram years ago as her primary social media. Twitter, in the meantime, will probably be remembered more for its entanglement into the fascist politics of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.)

After a commercial break, the hosts introduce Rod Thomas (Bright Light Bright Light), a DJ, artist and producer. Spanos and Sheffield thank him and he says “it’s not exactly a hardship to talk about this lady or this song.” They ask him about his first experiences with Cher and he talks about how his parents were into the Beatles (he was born in 1982) and how Cher was a famous movie actress when he was growing up. He said the first time he paid attention to her as a music artist was on the album It’s a Man’s World. He talks about loving Junior Vasquez’s “One by One” remix but that it wasn’t a hit. He says he “ran out to buy” the “Believe” CD at Woolworth’s in his hometown of Neath, Wales. They joke that Cher was on her 4th or 5th life by that time. Thomas says, “Everyone in school was talking about it, the straight kids, the weird kids, the bullies, the popular kids. Everyone was playing it. You heard it everywhere.” He feels it was the fist time there was “an all-engulfing wave around an artist everyone knew.”  It was a song everyone loved. He feels “Believe” is a “very British-centric sound” and he credits that to songwriter/producer Brian Higgins. He said the song really feels like “you’re in a British gay club.” He thinks the phenomenon was helped by the show Queer as Folk. People then were listening to “really gay music, like Gina G and The Spice Girls”. Very camp. And he believes the song was a legitimate “British gay anthem.”

Spanos says she likes to think about where music started and ended in the 1990s, from grunge to pop-punk to euro pop and House Music like “Believe.” Thomas says it was a time when “everyone was on the same page for a moment in British pop culture.” Whether you were straight or gay, whether you were in coffeehouses, clubs or a shopping center and how unusual that was, “especially for a heritage artist that traditionally younger kids wouldn’t gravitate to.”

They talk about the song being a #1 hit worldwide, a song Sheffield calls “immortal,” a song that you “instantly knew …was a timeless song. Thomas claims that Cher hates the song and how regrettable this is. He says there is a famous interview where she talks about hating how ubiquitous the song was at the time. I don’t remember this from any of the U.S. interviews. Thomas toured with Cher and might have seen a UK interview where she said this.

Thomas says that every time he works as a DJ, someone will request “Believe” and that it’s a “very mixed bag of gender, age and demographic.” “Everyone dances to this song. People melt in these ephemeral things and go feral.”

They ask Thomas where he was when he first danced to the song. He describes a British club called H2O that had three floors: a bar, a restaurant and a club at the top. He says you would hear the song playing on every single floor and that the upstairs club would play the song at least once or twice each night. He says the song represents “a specific sound and a specific moment in time.” He says Brian Higgins went on to do some great stuff but that this song “was a pivotal moment for him, for Cher, for British pop culture and for music.”

Thomas says the song “changed ageism” and put the focus on the song over the artist. Sheffield says Cher had “built her legend already” but that this song “invented a new Cher.” They then talk about Cher’s look around that time, her “wiggery.” How wonderful and cool it was. How her look was “trashy and fabulous…shimmery….” what Thomas calls “gaudy and tasteless but also fabulous and cool.” He also talks about how amazing her voice sounded on the record. “Her voice is perfect.” How the production was perfect and the genius of the technology. Of the Cher Effect, he says, “everyone was doing it in school” (imitating it) and how the song was at its peak for “many, many months.”

Sheffield talks about being at the punk show Mannequin Pussy recently and the venue was trying to “shoo everyone out” but “Believe” came on and then “no one would leave.” Thomas says, “that’s not even my favorite song on that record.” He talks about opening for Cher for nine shows across Europe and how he first saw her show in Brooklyn. He references the video montages and her other dance songs (“Strong Enough” and  “All or Nothing”), but when “Believe” came up “you could feel the room lift,” how fans were there “from every conceivable living age bracket” and that this song brings them all together. He says, “it was amazing to watch it.”

 

The Recording Studios of Cher

Recently I went into the Chersonian Institute to put away some of the latest acquisitions to the collection and since I was still tweaking my Cher’s Los Angeles map (from a list I made reading Cher’s Memoir), I decided to look at all the Cher record covers to fill in some studio gaps (not a bad way to spend an early afternoon) and I quickly fell into a rabbit hole. Because looking at record covers is endlessly entertaining.

I started to track the unique aspects of each cover. This could stand a much deeper dive. Like which covers list musicians and which ones don’t. For the moment, I just started to look at a few things: the recording studios (and engineers), Sonny’s liner notes, poems, fan club mentions.

Now let me say I have not a clue what an engineer does. And this is a lifelong problem. When I was young, my friend told me her father was an engineer and I immediately thought he drove the train. No, she said, he was an engineer at McDonnel Douglas in St. Louis. He engineered war planes. Whatever that means. Does he design them? I don’t know. But in a recording studio I have a vague sense that an engineer is tied to a studio in some way.

For example, some early Sonny & Cher records are missing a studio credit, but I could see that Stan Ross was listed as the album’s engineer on all of those so I assume those records were also recorded at Gold Star. This theory was not always true but the theory was fortified as Cher records started to dissolve throughout the 1980s and beyond into a flock of studios and engineers per album, and sometimes per song.

And my findings were interesting so I decided to write about them here (as I update my map). If a studio location isn’t mentioned, the studio is understood to be in the Los Angeles area or was noted as being in the LA-area on Wikipedia, where I went to fill in gaps missing from album covers and CD booklets.

The Gold Star Studios Albums

The albums recorded at Gold Star Studios were:

  1. Look at Us (Sonny & Cher) (1965)
  2. All I Really Want to Do (1965)
  3.  The Wondrous World of Sonny & Cher (1966)
  4.  The Sonny Side of Cher (no studio listed but Stan Ross is listed) (1966)
  5. In Case You’re in Love (Sonny & Cher) (1967)
  6. Cher (1967)
  7. With Love, Cher (no studio listed but Stan Ross is listed) (1967)
  8. The Good Times soundtrack (most likely Gold Star) (Sonny & Cher) (1967)
  9. Inner Views (Sonny)  (no studio listed but Stan Ross is listed) (1967)
  10. Backstage (no studio listed but Stan Ross is listed) (1968)
  11. The Chastity soundtrack (1969)

Sonny & Cher’s first duet album, Look at Us, includes an uncredited poem (in all caps for some reason), as does Cher’s album The Sonny Side of Cher! That one has a credit to Richard Oliver. I tried to look up “poet Richard Oliver” and AI informed me there “might be a mix-up in the query” and I probably meant the poet Mary Oliver. Sheesh, AI.

In any case, it looks like Oliver did the liner notes for this album and put in a poem for filler. And it is more filler-y than the typical Sonny liner note filler. Oliver says, “This album has feeling.” Feeling is a common theme in the 1960s and 70s liner notes on Cher.

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Sonny did his first liner notes for All I Really Want to Do (talking about how Cher feels) and there’s a letter from Sonny & Cher on The Wondrous World of Sonny & Cher. Sonny does a lot of treading water in these liner notes. A lot of space is taken up explaining himself. But he does seem to be legitimately trying to connect with their fans (in both sincerity and detail).

The Sonny & Cher Fan Club (8560 Sunset Blvd) starts appearing on Cher (1967) and appears again on With Love, Cher. The 1967 Cher album also has a great double-exposure photo of Sonny and Cher in the studio while Cher was recording “Alfie.”

And the back of the Backstage album has fascinated me for years with more liner notes that don’t really have anything to say but that incorporate a conversation with Cher. This sits atop a selection of photos (common for the back of Sonny & Cher albums) but with captions presumably written by Cher.

 

The soundtrack to Good Times doesn’t list any recording credits but it has an interesting write-up and dialogue with Sonny and Cher by William Friedkin. I just saw The French Connection last weekend in honor of Gene Hackman’s very sad and strange passing.

The Muscle Shoals Album

3614 Jackson Highway (1969) was famously recorded in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Cher handwrites the liner notes for this album and signs it. Tom Dowd engineered.

The Larrabee Sound Albums

When Sonny & Cher started working with Snuff Garret as a producer, they also started working with engineer Lenny Roberts (sometimes listed as Lennie for some reason). I got a chance to interview Lenny Roberts in 2009.

The albums recorded at Larrabee Sound were:

  1. All I Ever Need Is You (Sonny & Cher) (studio is not listed by Lennie Roberts is listed) (1971)
  2. Cher  (studio is not listed by Lennie Roberts is listed) (1971)
  3. Foxy Lady (1972)
  4. Bittersweet White Light (1973)
  5. Mama Was a Rock and Roll Singer, Papa Used to Write All the Songs (Sonny & Cher) (1973)
  6. Half Breed (1973)
  7. Dark Lady (1974)
    Very likely this was also recorded at Larrabee, although no studio, engineer or musicians are listed on the back cover. Space is given instead to Richard Avedon for photography and Calvin Klein for the dress! But Wikipedia lists Lenny Roberts as engineer.
  8. Cherished (1977)

The covers are very spartan for most of these Larrabee Sound albums. Cherished starts listing a fan club at a P.O. Box in North Hollywood. Only Bittersweet has liner notes by Sonny, more about the feels. Feel-y Cher.

For some odd reason when I was eight or nine I highlighted liner notes and thank yous on my Cher albums, which is why that yellow text above looks a little green. (What a nerd.)

The Sunset Sound and The Record Plant Albums

  1. Stars (Sunset Sound)  (1975)
    Here Cher has started adding dedications and thank yous instead of notes. She thanks David Geffen for all his help on this album.
  2. Allman & Woman, Two the Hard Way (parts at Sunset and parts and The Record Plant in LA and NYC) (1977)
    I got lost in the information architecture of this album’s credits and gave up trying to find an engineer. Cher dedicates the album to her kids. She doesn’t thank Mr. Cher.
  3. Black Rose (Sunset Sound with a plethora of engineers) (1980)
  4. I Paralyze (parts at The Record Plant) (1982) (see more below)

My 8 or 9 year old self has written in cursive my name on the back of the Stars albumBut backwards with my last name first. I do not know what that weird R in Mary is even doing besides standing up, turning around and trying to tell all the other letters to go back.

I’d like to do a little digression here to talk about the back cover of the Black Rose album and how it fails to rise above annoying rock music cliches. First, let’s look at the album covers where Cher previously attempted to change her image with rock music (and photographs).

The Stars album is a perfect cover, especially for 1975. It takes Cher’s then-current sparkly image and works it into something more substantially edgy. It’s creative and yet still glam. This is the way to do it. Another gold star.

Two the Hard Way, on the other hand, was trying way to hard. It’s a glamourous studio shot that compromises Gregg Allman more than it makes Cher convincing as a rock singer. It reads more like Allman has Gone Hollywood than it does that Cher has gone rock and roll, other than maybe what Hollywood’s idea of what that would mean. And although it fails to convert anybody, it has a kind of kitsch value (or it will decades later) because although it misfires in tone, it is a well made thing. And for all that I don’t hate it.

The 1987 eponymous album introduces the new rock Cher much more effectively. It’s sedate. The leather jacket signifies, the transgressive hand is unobtrusive. Cher is more matte, less glossy (after all, she’s an actress now). Very well done.

But then there’s the back cover of the Black Rose album…which makes me crazy….to this day.

It fails to be kitschy even.

Let’s look at all the cliches in this photograph that are supposed to signify “serious” rock music (snaking from the bottom to top):

  • Guy passed out of the floor
  • Tattoo on Cher’s ankle
  • Cher’s spiked ankle bracelet
  • Leopard print (but pink because it’s Cher)
  • Short, 80s-rock-perm Cher hair
  • Cher’s “I’m serious” face
  • Fishnets
  • Slitted skirt
  • Cher’s shorter finger nails
  • mustache guy behind Cher with his 70s side-pose and leather pants
  • Middle-guy with jaded 80s-hair-band face – “I’m here but I’m not here”
  • Disembodied girl stiletto on the TV
  • Les Dudek is the only one looking natural here with a face that says “Am I really in this photo?…but then also, here’s some rug, ladies
  • Here there are two ways to sit if you play rock music: ankle-to-knee pose and knees apart pose
  • Background 80s-suit guy who’s stumbled in from the band Devo
  • Menacing mustache guy in the shadows

I do not know what to make of the lamps.

Even though this is a 1980 album, that shadowy lighting reminds me of 1979. The whole musical year felt like this to me, the the shadow of the 1980s was bearing down on that year.

ABC Recording Studios

I’d Rather Believe In You (Phil Kaye engineering) (1976)

I think Cher’s reference is to Elijah’s birth, but I’m not sure.

A&M Studios and Studio 55 Albums

  1. Take Me Home (A&M, Larry Emerine) (1979)
  2. Prisoner (Studio 55, Larry Emerine) (1979)

The Take Me Home album thanks Neil and Joyce Bogart of Casablanca, Sonny,  a few people from her entourage, kids and Genie (Gene Simmons), Gregg Allman (spelled out with affectionate elaboration), her mom and sister. The credits also includes the North Hollywood fan club address. The album is dedicated to “Butterfly.” Does anybody know what that means? Around this time, Cher’s metaphor for herself was the butterfly, which turned into a snake in the 1980s.

The Prisoner album was the first one with lyrics printed on the inner sleeve (aside from Sonny’s 1967 Inner Views). This was very exciting at the time and I wore my sleeve out reading and re-reading it and had to retape it up at the edges. But it only includes song lyrics. Album credits are spartanly represented on the back cover.

Because I’m watching the Luther Vandross documentary now, I’ll point out that he makes an appearance singing backup on the song “Shoppin'” and his name is spelled Luther Van Dross here.

The Columbia Album and the Geffen Albums

Here begins a trail of studios crumbled across albums and songs. It might be related to the fact that around this time Cher liked to defend her use of many producers in saying producers would only care about their one song and wouldn’t work hard enough on songs they didn’t like. So she only gave them a song or two. Maybe this caused the proliferation of studios. Or maybe it was just the new patchwork process of assembling songs from multiple places and people spread across space and time.

This phenomenon for Cher started in the early 1980s and the studios and engineers proliferate as the years go by.

I Paralyze

  1. Sound Labs
  2. Record Plant (LA)
  3. Cherokee Recording Studios
  4. RCA (NYC)

No thank yous for this that you can track back to Cher. And I hate how the credits are slanted…like because wow, it’s the 80s! The North Hollywood fan club is listed again.

Cher (1987)

  1. Electric Lady Studios
  2. A&M
  3. Soundtrack Studios (NY)
  4. Power Station (NY)
  5. Hit Factory (NY)
  6. Giant Sound
  7. Record Plant
  8. The Complex
  9. The Grey Room

Cher thanks Sonny “with love” on this album where she re-records their song “Bang Bang.” She also thanks her entourage, her sister, her kids and Robert Camiletti with a blue heart and an exclamation point.

Heart of Stone (1989)

  1. Criterion Studios
  2. Ocean Way
  3. Bearsville Studios
  4. Electric Lady
  5. The Complex
  6. Cherokee Studios
  7. Village Recorders
  8. Lions Share
  9. Lighthouse Studios
  10. Hit Factory
  11. Studio Ultima
  12. Conway Recording
  13. Paradise Studios
  14. Right Track

Cher thanks everybody here, including their nicknames and inside monikers and “the entire Camilletti clan.” These thank yous are hard to read but they are a memoir in and of themselves, worth the effort. You get a sense of her relationships with people. She’s a kidder! I don’t know if I remember this correctly but I think her nickname for Robert was Mook.

Love Hurts (1991)

  1. Little Mountain Sound
  2. A&M
  3. The Complex
  4. Bill Schnee Studios
  5. Vancouver Studios
  6. Sunset Sound
  7. The Criterion
  8. Oceanway
  9. Village Recorders
  10. Studio F
  11. Skywalker Ranch
  12. The Music Grinder

The notes for this album were impossible to read,  small print designed on the CD fold-out with triangles and you had to keep reorienting the booklet and there was a numbering scheme to help you do it and it was a mess. The tarot card deck version of the album was not that much easier to read. The thank yous are much, much shorter but include the names of a few singers you might recognize.

The WEA/Reprise, ArtistDirect, Warner UK Albums

It’s a Man’s World (1995)

Elephant Studios (London) – according to Wikipedia.

Hunting down album credits to this one was both frustrating and fruitless. I started with the vinyl rerelease, which had no credits, so I went back to the rerelease CD, no credits. Then I had to track down the original release UK and US CDs (which where not in the Cher She-Shed related to another project) and once I found them, they didn’t have album credits. Just song credits. And no thank yous.

But if Wikipedia is correct and this whole album was created in one studio, that makes me very happy to know.

 

Believe (1998)

Engineer Marc Goodman, Wikipedia says

  1. Dreamhouse (London)
  2. Soundworks (NYC)

This was another set of credits that were hard to find. Again, the rerelease vinyl box was useless. All that wasted box space! My only CD copy was ensconced in a frame because Cher had signed it. So while I was breaking it out of the box, I cut my index finger on the glass and bled all over it. Sigh. The trials and tribulations of a Cher scholar right there.

But what did we find out? Cher dedicates the Believe album to the memory of Sonny (in a box to make it stand out). He has just died.

Not Commercial (2000)

The Power Station (NYC, July 24, 1994)

This is the only album where Cher has provided notes for each track. (Some examples below.) There are also a few original Cher illustrations between songs. She also includes a somewhat verbose (for her) explanation of the album’s origins. There is even a dedicated page in the booklet with much longer thank-yous with personal messages about them. More singers you might know.

Living Proof (2001)

  1. Metrophonic (Metro) (London)
  2. 143 Studios
  3. Eclectic (Stockholm)
  4. Fredonia International Studios
  5. Modena One Studios (UK)
  6. Sound Barrier Studios (NY)
  7. Stargate Studios (Norway)

Cher thanks a lot of people again here, mostly those helping her be Cher. She also tells us what she’s thanking them for in this set. There’s a new fan club in town. In Milford, Connecticut, to be exact. (I actually belonged to this one for a minute.) Cher dedicates the album to the people of New York City as this album came out soon after 9/11.

Burlesque songs – Emblem Music (Calabasas, CA) (2010)

Closer to the Truth (2013)

  1. Angel Studios (London)
  2. Eargasm
  3. Fishhead Music (Gothenburg, Sweden)
  4. Henson Studios
  5. Metrophonic Studios (London)
  6. Stamford Bridge Studio (London)
  7. Turtle Sound Studios (Weston, CT)
  8. Vine Street Music Studios
  9. Wally World (Davie, FL)

Everyone gets a paragraph here and Cher gives us two pages to explain what happens behind the curtain(s). We see her thank Joe DeCarlo many times over a lot of these liner notes. We find out why in the Memoir. She signs this one again (not since 1969…)

Dancing Queen (2018)

  1. Angel (London)
  2. Metrophonic (London)
  3. Mono Music (Stockholm, doing “Fernando” with Benny Anderson for Mama Mia: Here We Go Again)

This booklet didn’t have much. This whole project felt so shoestring. She dedicates it to her mom who was still alive but having some health issues.

Christmas (2023)

  1. The Hit Factory (NYC)
  2. Metrophonic Studios (London, UK)

We’re back to a page and a half of thank-yous, with names kindly bolded. Lot of the same entourage but she also thanks her guest singers and now Alexander and Slash. Like the last album, she dedicates it to her now-passed mother.

It seems the thank yous get more effusive the more Cher likes her album. Just a guess there. Man’s World might be the exception. Great album with very few credits. Hard to know how these things come together. But it’s interesting to see how they have evolved over the decades.

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