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For What It’s Worth…What Is It Worth?

Since we just did a post about Cher’s somewhat recent African American fan base and how Cher might situate in it, this is a good time to point out that no monolithic subculture is in agreement about Cher. There are gay men who don’t like Cher. There are African Americans who don’t like Cher. But I have noticed that as her profile is rising in African American subcultures, it’s descending for Native American subcultures. I’m not sure it was ever that huge there but…

Young online protests (from both white and Native American/Indian Nation people) are calling for her head these days because of the 1973 Half Breed costume Bob Mackie designed for her and for other occasions when she wore Indian-looking clothing out to Hollywood events. Native Stardust last year made a video collage of these outfits for a Facebook post, seemingly calling for what I’m not sure, anything from the shaming or the cancellation of Cher.

Cher has stopped using the Half Breed outfit in her live shows (itself a controversy to the Anti-Cancel Culture people) but this seems irrelevant to the rage warriors.

Before we launch into the arguments on the Facebook post, let me clarify my beliefs around Cancel Culture:

If you’re out there literally lynching people, the larger culture has an obligation to censor you and stop you by any means. But I do believe in a kind of online-lynching as well. This includes harassment, racist organizing, covert racist messaging. I believe these acts should be called out as well: outright cyber bullying based on race. It’s a hate crime pretty clearly.

The problem with our cancel warriors is that they combine lynchers with appropriators. And even appropriations come in a rainbow of flavors. Some people are exploiters and some people are supporters and allies. And supporters and allies often make mistakes. Or times change. Word definitions change. And I think in our current atmosphere of increased racial violence, it is crucial that we know the difference between all these things. Otherwise, all the outrage will become noise and it sort of already has.

We have to be unequivocal with the lynchers (and cyber bullies) but also offer room to apologize and change to the appropriators, which internet warriors are loathe to do. If you refuse to let anyone repair and reconcile, if you shun also the minor offenders, if you cancel without context, you are resorting to the same bad-faith arguments as your most villainous enemies use.

As they say, when fighting monsters, don’t become a monster yourself.

You have to step through complicated quagmires with fairness. And the rage warriors don’t want to see complexity because then they have to slow down. And they don’t want to slow down because they are performing morality for social points. And the social points come and go very quickly.

We’re not even coming to the table in the same way. And you can’t even argue with a bad faith argument.

In any case, rage warfare just makes the other side double down and entrench (since recovery isn’t even an option extended to them). So it’s not even helpful to the cause. It’s just makes more racists out of micro-aggressors.

Here’s the Facebook conversation:

Native Stardust (from NYC): Native look doesn’t mean Cher, or anyone else, is native and no she’s not entitled to wear native style headdresses that aren’t earned and that appropriate and perpetuate erasure of native culture. #native #indigenous #nativeamerican

[Hundreds of comments from many, many Facebookers then occurred.]

Me: This is a very sensitive topic, appropriation. Many points of view on this one, even in this thread. And Cher is an interesting case, especially in thinking about what her TV shows were doing in the early 1970s when there were zero representations of anything on TV that wasn’t super-white (Beverly Hillbillies, I Dream of Jeannie, The Brady Bunch). Her shows were trying to be multicultural. We see this very differently from 2026. There is a whole book on this with a Cher chapter, Off-White Hollywood by Diane Negra

And she does it in her movies. She won an academy award for playing an Italian women and she is zero percent Italian.

Robert: Mary, Sanford and son , Chico and the man. Flip Wilson show. Fat Albert. Harlem Globetrotters.. TV in early 70s wasn’t all white. Lone Ranger had tonto has a partner. The real McCoy’s there was an Hispanic hired hand. Bonanza had Hopsing. Kung Fu had some Chinese people in it. Green hornet. All the westerns had native in them.

Me: Robert,  yeah that was in the 70s, too. I was talking about the late 60s. Those shows you mention were part of the same trend. Fred Silverman at CBS (in particular) wanted to end white “country” shows like Andy Griffith and appeal more to young people in cities. Which all the shows you mention (and the new CBS lineup of shows like S&C, Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, Flip Wilson) did do.

I know nothing about Western shows but those ended in the 70s too.

Sage: Mary McCray ew wtf is that

[I don’t know. I didn’t even respond.]

Brian: Mary, Jeannie should have been Middle Eastern.

Me: Brian, that would have been great. 60s TV casting was ridiculously white.

Anita: Mary, this is not about the roles she plays, she’s just an actress which doesn’t entitle her to pose as a native woman in costume, Indian women wore no such thing and shame on you people for giving her carte blanch

Me: I’m not giving her “carte blanch” – I believe this is a legitimate controversy. I’m just raising the complexities in the issue. Shame on you for assuming the worst about me.

[That was this morning.]

How can you separate Cher acting in movies from acting on television and “the roles she plays?” Cher is an actor when she plays an Italian but a transgressor when she sings as a Native American? No variety show in the history of anything was ever about realism. However, you can argue variety shows did carry forward inappropriate liberties taken from Vaudeville. (But I don’t think that was Anita’s point.)

The issue is just larger than a male American headdress. “Indian women wore no such thing.” This is a larger issue of Cher wearing afro wigs, Cher wearing geisha dresses. I have heard tsk-tsks from white people about those things too. And I’m sure these other instances of Cher’s costume appropriation bother Asian and African Americans, as well.

So I’m sorry Anita. It almost certainly has to do with all these roles she plays.

And it’s mostly young people who are taking issue, young people who didn’t live through the racial context of television in the 1960s and 70s. Which is why Cher wasn’t a target then but is one now.

Later in the thread Vernon said, “What if Cher’s attire brought attention to the native culture and people started to learn about their history and plight which created an understanding and connection.” Someone responded by saying maybe it just reinforced sexual fetishization of Native American women.

Bring attention to something versus fetishizing native women is always something we need to talk about. The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour in 1973 might have unintentionally done that when two things crisscrossed to perpetuate a problem. Cher in cultural clothes combined with Cher wanting to assert herself sexually. I would argue strenuously that this was always her idea (and her co-conspirator, Bob Mackie) and not the idea of Sonny (who wasn’t all in for it because this was his wife) or the show’s idea (the show censors also fought it). Cher fought for her right to wear Bob Mackie’s clothes. And those clothes always showed off a lot of skin.

But there’s also complications here with representation, because Cher has been a sexy pirate on an album cover, a sexy farm girl on another TV show, a sexy roller-derby girl in promotion. (Growing up in California, this is probably the only organic sexy outfit she could don). These types of women are commonly fetishized as well. And it sounds ridiculous to insist Cher should only be allowed to be a sexy Armenian. And then the Armenians could protest. After all she didn’t grow up in Armenia or even in L.A.’s Little Armenia. Would she need to prove DNA blood quantum or acquire a sort of Armenia tribal card? If you know anything about these things, you know blood quantum and tribal membership are themselves controversial ideas in the American Indian Nation community (see the booklist below).

And then there’s the problem of degree.

In talking with Mr. Cher Scholar, he mentioned the Hollywood pressure to hire actors who are the same gender, ethnicity or sexual orientation as their characters in the productions, as close to the character in casting as possible as to not make anybody in the audience mad. Which has proven to be thorny, too. (Color blind casting is the opposite impulse but that makes essentialists angry, too.)

Taken to the logical conclusion, you wouldn’t be able to play a rape victim if you had never been raped. You wouldn’t be able to play a soldier if you had never been a soldier. Our own personal lanes are so narrow, it would make the art of acting completely moot. The actors whole point is to get into the skin of somebody else.

The same goes for writers. And models. And singers. And artists who pull in techniques from other cultures. And then birth ancestry is just one way to look at your past heritage. Some people believe in other kinds of lineage, like past lives that exist outside of their own family systems.

Then there’s the problem of artistic sympathy and support. Sebastian Barry just published a book from the point-of-view of an American slave. (He is Irish.)  Although not having read this book, I have to say I agree with giving Sebastian Barry the opportunity to write outside of his lane. This is what I had to say last week on Facebook:

Writing is as much about process as it is a business. Writing about people from different backgrounds than your own (or different genders) builds empathy. Or at least attempts to do that. Even when you get the details wrong or screw something up. It’s good for writers and it’s good for their unsympathetic readers.

Although it’s definitely not fair when white writers get more money and better publishing deals when telling stories about people of color or women than minority writers get for similar stories, this is an economic and publishing issue more than a writing issue. Writers should keep trying to involve the full world in their work and not shy away from all the hard things.

We are self-segregating and this is bad. If writers feel they are not allowed to write about a variety of people (or anyone outside of their own narrow lanes of birth) or cook away from their birth culture or play music or wear clothes or whatever it is, people start glamorizing their own groups and they start villainizing all the other groups and racism increases and here we are. If we can’t share culture, we devolve and villainize. We need to keep up the practice of understanding each other and that is what writing is.

For what it’s worth, the Half Breed dress is a drawing ultimately. It is a fiction, an idea of Cher as a vague American tribal warrior more than it is a non-Indian person exploiting a real culturally-imbued regalia used by a prior person from another culture. Again, a matter of degree. Is it the feathers?  What if those feathers are not real feathers? (And who qualifies to own the feathers?) What if you add Hollywood bling to the design? Obviously the dress was not trying to be traditional. It was not trying to pass off as something legitimate. It was trying to allude to a the power of Cher.

But it very well could be said to sexualize female American Indianness in the process of Cher being Cher. And that could have unintended consequences for Native American women who still perform ceremonies in their lives.

But then that is about the headdress and not the other suede shirts and jewelry and headbands Cher also occasionally wore.

I’m just saying it’s complicated. And online warriors (wearing their own illegitimate headdresses of warfare) do not want to partake in the complicated conversation. They have two buckets: good and evil. You’re either one or the other.

And I’m not convinced it’s entirely a politically left/right spread here. Liberals can be ineffectively shrill and clueless in their rule-making un-scalability to be sure but I have worked over the years with quite a few “maliciously compliant” right-wingers who will performatively support a system they don’t believe in at all and do so with such strict compliance in order to make the system or the new rules seem untenable in order to cause those systems to fail and the very act of considering other people’s feelings seem ultimately ridiculous and impossible.

It was one of my current co-workers (also a current practitioner of the ruse above) who alerted me to the phrase “malicious compliance.”  We often have a mix of both of these people in any “correctness crusade.”

But that doesn’t make any of them morally right. It just makes good conversations harder to have.

I don’t think appropriation is comprised of two buckets. It’s complex. Appropriation can be exploitive and too many times has been. It can also be good-faith attempts to understand each other.

Cher’s ethnic appropriations are way larger than her use of male warrior clothing, as Negra’s book meticulously outlines and as any TV variety show historian would point out.

Tim Curry put it very well when talking about The Rocky Horror Picture Show:

“Look beyond the end of your own nose, just briefly. Please.”

1970s television context is this: I’m pretty, pretty sure The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour was not trying to exploit ethnicities. Until World War II, Sonny (as a Siscilian Italian) and Cher (as a vaguely looking ethnic person) would not have been considered white in America. Cher has her own scary story about United States border patrol trying to refuse her entry back into the country when she was under 10 years old because she looked Mexican and the rest of her family looked so blonde and white. I’m sure Sonny and Cher were sensitive to racism. I’m also pretty sure the writers and producers were trying to show the beauty of other cultures (in American and around the World) as an anecdote to white American television of the 1950s and 1960s. And all through the powerful female vehicle of Cher and her ethnic vagueness.

That I’m a Cher fan makes me immediately suspect in this conversation even though I am not a “carte blanche” fan, to use Anita’s term. Real “carte blance” Cher fans would take umbrage to hearing me being described that way. I’m way to critical for them. I’m not “carte blanche” enough!

Being  a “scholar” of the subject also gives me zero credibility. Just watch me out there pointing out A.I. pictures of Cher on socials. People are committed to their willingness to believe themselves over everybody else.

I’m ultimately more of a fan of fairness and navigating racism in America in productive ways. Rage and cancel culture has only seemed to exacerbate racism for the racists. Therefore, I see it as a failed strategy.

Battle lines being drawn.

Here is Cher singing “For What it’s Worth” (on the cover again wearing a fringe suede top and a bandanna). Cher has spent her whole life being judged as the most and least authentic person in the room from day one. Is she a real hippie? Should she be singing a Buffalo Springfield song in a Muscle Shoals studio? Should those unique musical sounds be coming off a Cher record?

And yet those who have worked with her categorize her as the most authentic person in the room. This further complicates her dynamic.

There are endless circles of being, presentation and ideas about who is allowed to do what, wear what, etc. Cher is a lightning rod for these kinds of culture struggles. And the Internet is full of people making outrage (possibly for their own benefit) to keep those culture struggles in play instead of actually envisioning productive ideas for a collective national future.

Should we keep having the conversations about appropriation? Definitely. Should we read up on other tribal and identity concerns of this American community. 100%. You can “do you own research” and find plenty of online lists on where to start with Native American literature. But here are my current favorites:

  • There, There, the hugely successful novel by Tommy Orange exploring the lives of American Indians in urban cities
  • Birding While Indian, a poignant memoir by Thomas C. Gannon
  • The Only Good Indians, a brilliant horror novel by Stephen Graham Jones
  • The memoirs and poetry by Joy Harjo
  • The novels of Louise Erdrich and Leslie Marmon Silko
  • Experimental poetry by Layli Long Soldier and James Thomas Stevens

The Kenny Ortega Connection

When I was working at ICANN years ago (my second of three consulting stints so far), I worked with a different Web Content team that consisted of a coworker who knew a lot about the local L.A. music scene (I think his uncle was a studio musician or something) and by this time I had moved from L.A. to Santa Fe, New Mexico (Mr. Cher Scholar wanted to get a degree related to archaeology) and I would connect with the ICANN team via Skype (which we don’t use anymore but which was the chat tool back then) and this coworker thought it was very funny that I was such a big Cher fan and so would always play Seven Degrees of Kevin Bacon with me except it was Three Degrees of Cher.  He would throw out a musician or TV star and I would try to step that person back to Cher in three degrees or people, a challenge I was pretty good at because Cher has covered so many songwriters and has worked with so many people.

And I have to say that until I did a piece on My Top 1980s Music Videos on another blog, I never would have connected Billy Squier to Cher. When I did the video piece, I decided to exclude mentioning who the video directors were. I did this because what 15-year old girl in the 80s gave a whit about the video directors. In fact, when MTV started listing video directors in the lower left-hand corner, we thought that was pretty pretentious. And not because we didn’t consider music videos worthy of film credits, but the director line seemed grandiose, like so stereotypically director-ly. I say that but we did talk at great length about how Diane Keaton directed that Belinda Carlisle video and how surprisingly boring that one ended up being.

In any case, I was previously making an impassioned defense of the “Rock Me Tonight” video by Billy Squier which famously (and also simultaneously unknown to me) ignited a homophobic response that severed a rock star’s career. And as I was researching the video for the Top 80s Videos article, I learned who directed it: Kenny Ortega. And this is significant to me for many reasons.

Most of all because Kenny Ortega is gay. So the fact that the “Rock Me Tonight” video was accused of being “too gay” becomes more egregiously heartbreaking, as if the director’s gayness tainted the video. Definitely a thought homophobes recurringly have. Someone could do a whole essay now on this video and how it fits into the idea of Queer Readings, either incorrectly or by reading enthusiasm, sensuality and pastel shirts as “gay.” Which could lead to another essay about the oppressions and narrow-sightedness of a national culture in the mid-80s.

So then I read more about Ortega’s full career trajectory and how it started back with the band The Tubes and 10 years working as their choreographer.

Then in 1978, the Tubes appeared on Cher’s TV special which connected Cher with Kenny Ortega.

Then Cher asked Ortega to choreograph the Cher concert I love the most, Celebration at Caesars.

Cher was dating Gene Simmons at the time and then KISS used Ortega for their Dynasty tour in 1979. After that Ortega was one of the movie Xanadu’s choreographers and he worked on several John Hughes films. He also choreographed or directed other tours for Miley Cyrus, Olivia Newton-John and many shows for Michael Jackson. In fact, the best way to see Ortega behind the scenes would be to watch the This Is It documentary with Ortega working with Michael Jackson as they were assembling that tour which ultimately got cancelled due to Jackson’s accidental death. He’s also choreographed a SuperBowl, an Academy Awards and two Olympics, as well as directed a few movies that have become cult favorites.

By the way, I just finished the new Olivia Newton-John biography A Little More Love by Matthew Hild and there were many, many cross-over names with the Cher-o-sphere, including MCA Records, Warren Hamm, Billy Sammeth, Roger Davies, Kenny Ortega, Nick Vanoff, Gavin de Becker, John Kalodner and the Miles Copeland songwriters retreat. (By the way, the book illustrated how ONJ was ahead of the curve in supporting LGBTQ+ and medicinal marijuana.)

And while Ortega was working on all those tours, he choregraphed Madonna’s “Material Girl” and directed The Tubes video “She’s a Beauty” which was also on my Top 80s Videos list!

So there’s a straight line here. And at least I’m consistent, however innocently.

New Cher Garnier Ad

Garnier Diamond Sleek, or Garnier Fructis Diamond Sleek Shine-Coat Smoothing Spray (long name), is a “heat-activated anti-frizz and heat protectant spray.” Cher’s commercial for it  with  Xochitl Gomez came out on 4 June 2026.

Compared to the Uber Eats commercial, this one is meh. There are too many scenes and the scenes are too long. The art of editing was where the Uber Eats was brilliant.

Xochitl is good in the stiffly-written commercial and I actually liked her mussy self, where the ad opens. She’s a skateboarder. Cool. She comes across a poorly-designed Cher concert flyer. She’s wearing a retro Cher tshirt from the Farewell Tour era. Nice. (Cher fans are getting old. Not nice.

She goes into a posh salon? Bar? Club? She has hair too frizzy for such an upscale place. (Bad, I guess.) The instrumental parts of Cher’s song “All or Nothing” are playing. Cher is sitting at the bar wearing copious amounts of diamond-encrusted underthings and a white jacket.

Sone strange cataclysmic event occurs but it’s brief and confusing. There’s a cut to Xochitl peering around a wall. (Why doesn’t Cher just appear where Xochitl was previously?) Cher surprises Xochitl from behind. It’s just kind of an awkward and pedestrian Cher reveal.

Cher launches right into saying Xochitl is “an uncut gem” and all she needs is polish. It would have been better if Xochitl asked for help but this is Cher so don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. But maybe Xochitl’s got a look. A disheveled look but, you know, maybe she runs with a disheveled crew. Skateboarders and all. Okay, let’s assume she has a glam side too. I can related to this but the commercial (or “film” as Garnier calls it pretentiously) is a bit cryptically written. (Again, Uber Eats…doing a lot in a little time). Cher says Xochitl is a mess but “I’m here to help you.”

Now the idea of Cher as a Makeover Fairy is really, really good. For Cher. For all of us. This is like the wet dream of both gay Cher fans and hetero female fans. In fact, maybe we are all subconsciously shabby because we secretly yearn for a spa mother. But I mean, Cher can’t be everywhere a shabby Cher fan exists. Listen, I’ve been to some of the Cher conventions. There’s just too many of a motley bunch.  No offense to my Cher friends. I get it. I haven’t even brushed my hair yet today and it’s already 10 am. And I can’t honestly remember if I brushed it yesterday. But I love beauty products and beauty talk and I still have dreams of a West Hollywood/New Beverly Cinema, good-lookin Cher convention.

Anyway, Xochitl finds a treasure chest (and can I say we still don’t know where the hell we are?) She opens in and sees a bottle of Garnier’s Diamond Sleek spray on a bed of cartoonish-looking diamonds. Cher knows they’re not real by Xochitl gets distracted by the diamonds and wonders if this is the gift. This is an attempt at humor here but it’s not a good look for Garnier because it makes their product look overlookable.

Cher has to correct Xochitl and tell her it’s the bottle that’s the treasure. Xochitl immediately knows what it is and says, “I need to find a mirror.” Cher says, restroom. Inexplicably, we need to go to another location. This is all pointless action and dialogue because why didn’t we just set the whole thing in a restroom and then we wouldn’t have to waste time giving directions.

Xochitl goes into like the most poshest restroom you’ve ever seen, where women are just milling and there’s a curtain of diamond-esque beads hanging. Cher advises Xochitl to “become the diamond.” I don’t…know…what that means. Xochitl says “I don’t know what that means.”

And then Cher says, “When you shine, the whole world is possible” which is actually a good tag line and good beauty advice. But we had to work really, really hard to get there.

Then we spend too many seconds watching Xochitl blow dry her hair. Cher then appears and makes reference to Xochitl’s t-shirt and says, “I love the t-shirt but I’m not crazy about the girl.” And this is confusing because Cher is, I’m 100% sure, talking about herself here (this is self-deprecation) but it can also be interpreted as Cher saying I like your t-shirt, Xochitl, but not the girl wearing it. Because that’s the way I first heard it (and I know better). The language just leaves it kind of open to who “the girl” is. And this is not after an over-analyzing it, this was my first shocking reaction, which is all a commercial allows. And Cher kind of delivers it without much oomph.

This is a farewell-era shirt and I’m not sure if it’s official merch or a bootleg. The official merch had the Living Proof album cover on it. This might have been legit. That was over 20 years ago. Whatever it is, it’s vintage.

Cher waves her arm. Can’t Cher get a wand or a prop? But then again, maybe Cher is the wand. And before Cher is even finished waving (sloppy), Xochitl gets a full makeover. Cher surprises herself, “that actually worked.” Xochitl walks back through this mysterious place full of radiance and confidence.

Cher tells us, “Now it’s your time to shine.” From your lips to God’s ears, Cher. Another great tag line. Credits roll. At then end Cher says, “that was fun.” And makeovers are fun. But there was too much business and not enough makeover in this.

Couldn’t this have taken place in a beauty salon?  Xochitl’s bedroom before a big night out? Even at a skateboard park. I’m thinking the ad was fun to make at this location but it says more about the ad’s creators than its potential audience. It’s basically setting the product in a location most Garnier-buyers will never visit. This is often the disconnect between Cher goods and Cher fans, a tax-bracket gap. On the other hand, Uber Eats, Equal, even Vic Tanny (those gym memberships can be pricey) tapped into Cher’s core base.

I’m not a typical Cher fan. I bought the perfumes and the Cher-designed scarf, all the Burlesque MAC merch and the knock-off Versace tshirt (i’m not “rich as Roosevelt,” as Rose Castorini says in Moonstruck) but I remember the days when I couldn’t afford to buy anything in the Sanctuary catalog and couldn’t hop on board to the Acquasentials monthly skin care club.

Besides, luxury-scale is becoming a bubble. Fortunately, this product is only $7-8 dollars so we can all try it.

This is a great shot (right) and can’t this just be the print ad and we forget all about the commercial?

Cher likes to appear in ads with young people. There’s a mutual benefit here: they get some Icon-dust sparkled on them and Cher gets some youth-cred sprinkled back on her. But we’re developing quite a roster of hip young commercial costars again (also why the Uber Eats was so refreshing…and food, the food). But the formula must be working because we’re all still here.

But I kind of miss context around Cher, like her contemporaries. Even her movie co-stars. A commercial with Meryl Streep or well, I guess a lot of them are no longer with us (or working).

But these ads with young kids always feels like time travel to me. Like the ad becomes about closing the age gap. Maybe Cher needs no co-star.

So the ahem “film” left a lot to be desired. But that’s okay because the other assets are good. Cher did a Q&A at launch that was much more adorably Cher-like.

Here are the questions and answers I’ve transcribed, so thrilled was I about this beauty blast of information:

  1. Your sleek, straight hair has been part of your signature look for decades – what does it represent for you personally?
    Cher: I don’t know. It’s always what I’ve felt. You know my mom had long hair. My sister had long hair. My mom used to threaten to cut my hair [chuckle] if I was bad. It’s kinda crazy.
  2. At what point did your hair stop being hair and more like a cultural icon?
    Cher: You know I didn’t plan it that way. I just had it long. it’s just what I feel, how I feel. You know, it’s how I feel.
  3. What’s a beauty rule you completely ignore?
    Cher: Almost everything. I just don’t believe in rules. I just don’t. It’s like I don’t want it, you know. Tell someone else.
  4. What is the secret to Cher hair?
    Cher: I blow dry it upside down. My mother did the same thing.
  5. You had so many iconic hair looks. Which was your all-time favorite?
    Cher: My own, you know. Just my own plain.
  6. What’s something most people don’t know about you?
    Cher: Oh. I’m shy. [Nods.] Yeah.
  7. Down and sleek or bouncy blow-out?
    Cher: Both
  8. Red carpet or after-party?
    Cher: They’re the same.
  9. Full glam or natural look?
    Cher: Aw no! Both. They’re both. These questions are all both!
  10. Diamonds or leather.
    Cher: Oh leather.
  11. Bangs or never again?
    Cher: Always fabulous. Just depends on how you feel.
  12. Cappuccino or champagne?
    Cher: I don’t like either one.
  13. Night in or night out?
    Cher: It depends on who I’m with.
  14. Do blondes or brunettes have more fun?
    Cher: I don’t know! You’re asking me all these questions and all I think of is both. They’re both. It doesn’t make any difference. It’s how you feel.
  15. Neutrals or bold colors?
    Cher: I like the look of what it is. I don’t like color or I mean I don’t like bright colors but it’s the way it feels, the way it looks, like if you feel great in it. That’s the only thing that matters. Like, do you feel great in it?

Beauty Packaging article – This is mostly advertising copy around the campaign:

“Garnier is ushering in a bold new era of sleek hair” (is it that new, though?)  “The campaign features a short film….bridging timeless glamour” [Cher] “with modern self-expression” [skateboarding Xochitl ?]….[bringing] “the iconic ‘Cher Hair’ look to an entirely new generation…” The US Brand President says the product was “built on the belief” of “mirror-like shine” and that “pairing Cher with Xochitl Gomez through Dave Meyers’ lens isn’t just a campaign; it’s a statement. ‘Cher Hair’ has captivated the world for decades. Now we’re handing everyone the secret. No barriers. No gatekeeping. Just transformative beauty…”

Oy vay.

There was a VIP evening celebration “honoring transformation, confidence and iconic beauty” and Garnier is also joining with Cherlato for a special “limited-edition” flavor and a hair pop-up bar in Los Angeles with product samplings, styling stations and touch-ups, “interactive content creation opportunities.”

People Magazine article – This is much better, just a conversation with Cher about her mother’s core hair values, her favorite hair clips and trying “to stay myself.” Cher also talks about wigs, the times when your hair gets in the way, and how she couldn’t Scrunchie to “save her ass.” (Is this aesthetically or functionally?) She says she’s used the product and “it works.”

Dax Shepard and Other Bric-a-Brac

So I’m a little behind. I had a thing. Or two. It was not a pleasant turn-over from 2025 to 2026. Trying to catchup is my therapy right now.

Armchair Expert

I want to start with the Dax Shepard controversy. While I was in Cleveland one morning in January, my sister-in-law asked me if I had heard what Cher said about Dax Shepard. And I answered Who is Dax Shepard? And then I looked him up and I remembered his face right away. I did not know he was the husband of Kristen Bell.

Dax Shepard is an actor who also has a podcast called Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard (and Monica Padman is the co-host). Four weeks ago they interviewed Cher. On the podcast Cher, now infamously, called Kristen Bell “definitely the better half” and said then said, “the truth is, I trust her. So you must have something that I don’t see.”

Cue the hysteria.

It came at the end of a very good interview, I have to say, one that asked some novel questions and went deeper into Cher’s recent memoir than most of the interviews in 2024. And kudos to Dax Shepard (and Monica Padman) for circling back with follow-up questions like a real conversation. I mean he read the book. And had feelings about it!! One of their good questions was trying to nail down with Cher whether Sonny was so restrictive with her for love or for money. No one before had the large stones to ask her that before. And Cher was tactful in the interview except for the question about Kristen Bell, who is one of her friends from the tumultuous filming of the flawed movie Burlesque.

And I think this contrived-seeming scandal detracts from the quality of the interview itself.

I say contrived because Dax Shepard himself brought up the fact that Cher had mentioned prior to this interview that she didn’t believe Shepard was a  good enough mate for Kristin Bell. So Shepard knew the answer before he asked the question and was never at any point offended about it. In fact he said mock-seriously that he even agreed with Cher’s assessment adding that no one was good enough for her. He challenged Cher to list someone she did think was good enough for her. Kristen Bell herself interjects at this point to instruct Cher that Shepard is being self-deprecating.

Is it, of course, a pure example of Cher pulling no punches. It’s also ironic because Cher, more than anyone else I can think of, has been in this position of defending her heart over and over again. Remember Sonny (a relationship that was impossible to explain to people) and Gregg Allman (“nobody understood it”) and all the younger boyfriends. She predictably sees things in men her family, fans and co-workers do not see. And that’s as it should be. We can’t all like the same people. Love is irrelevant to translation and transference. (“Love don’t make things nice” and all that.)

That Cher would put anyone on the defensive about their heart is very interesting.

But it all made me look more closely at Dax Shepard; and he struck me as charming. I woke up early one morning thinking about this whole thing and Shepard’s way of downgrading his stock, (as Bell advised Cher he was doing). At one point, he joked about what a terrible father he was. Bell kept trying to explain him to Cher, his sense of humor.

And all that seems to indicate he might be exhibiting what they call  gray rocking. Not a likely thing for an entertainer to do (they usually try to make themselves bigger) but not unheard of either. Folks today are calling it “reverse catfishing.” Back in the day we just called it self-deprecation. It is, in a nutshell, to undermine or undersell your value…on purpose.

Sometimes people seem like they’re underselling but they’re not. This is to set up an expectation they can come back and defend. Like the bad lover who says, “I’m no good, baby!” Oprah then quotes Maya Angelou to say, “They tell you who they are.” You just didn’t believe it. It’s the bad ones who often do this. The good ones sometimes do not tell you who they are and for a reason.

And that reason could be gray rocking (or reverse catfishing or whatever). It’s often initially a defense mechanism to deflect against unwanted attention from various situations or people, like narcissists, for example, or manipulators or too much affection coming at you that you can’t return or just waiting to see who’s willing to look a little closer (in order to weed out the unserious or unobservant or to confuse the constantly self-promoting).

There’s an Easter Egg effect about it (like those secret doors in video games or DVD home screens that lead to a secret entrance to a fabulous room).

And it can become, like in Dax Shepard’s case, a comedic trick.

I mean I guess. I don’t know Dax Shepard. Seeing him in person with all his real room vibes is a lot different than watching a podcast on YouTube. But he strikes me as a strategic underseller.

It’s a thing. There’s a club. Don’t ask me how I know.

The Cher Zines

The Cher Zines (1, 2 and 3) are back up for sale for digital download only on Etsy.

Cher Weddings

Cher and Alexander Edwards suffered wedding rumors at the end of last year and even some local network news shows picked it up. These never cease, boyfriend to boyfriend.

The Grammys

Cher was awarded a lifetime achievement award at this year’s Grammys along with Carlos Santana, Chaka Khan, Fela Kuti, Paul Simon and Whitney Houston. These were presented at an earlier ceremony on Saturday, 31 January 2026. Cher did not attend but her friend Loree Rodkin did and posted most of the Cher reel on Facebook.

Cher did show up at the Grammys main broadcast on Sunday, 1 February 2026, to give her acceptance speech and present the award for Record of the Year.

I haven’t seen the full show so I’m not sure about the context of her appearance. Was she the only lifetime achievement winner allowed this televised acceptance moment? Was it conditional to her presenting? She wasn’t billed as a presenter ahead of time so that kind of limits the value of her presenting (if that was the condition).

Entertainment Tonight posted her acceptance speech as a short on Facebook.

Apparently there was confusion and Cher said she was going to walk off. As she was walking off the host called her back to present the Record of the Year award.


But then she has trouble reading it probably due to dyslexia and who knows, maybe having the wrong eye-wear in (or out).

She announced Luther Vandross (because his name was on the card) as the winning song. Samples of his 1982 song If This World Were Mine” were part of the true winning song “Luther” by Kendrick Lamar and SZA. Cher corrected the mistake but…cue the hysteria.

See Entertainment Tonight’s YouTube title for the segment:

According to A.I. “the mix-up highlighted the deep connection between the late R&B legend and the winning track.”

See? Even A.I. is cutting Cher some f**king slack!

And A.I. wasn’t the only one, as the Entertainment Weekly roundup shows. SZA defends Cher to Entertainment Tonight later when they asked her if she knew what was happening. She said, “a legend was speaking. That’s what I understood.”

I find it very heartwarming how supportive the black community is even after Cher flubs.

More SZA defending Cher from:

Helen Mirren

Helen Mirren recently won the Cecil B. Demille award at the Golden Globes and in her acceptance speech she provided a list of “women that inspire me” which included Monica Vitii, Ana Manani, Jane Fonda, Bette Davis, Judy Garland and a list of women who can be recognized by just one name: Madonna, Barbra (Streisand I think), Cher, Sarah Jessica (Parker), Meryl (Streep), Kate  (Hepburn I presume), Cate (Blanchett probably) and her “ultimate Goddess” Viola (Davis).

That was nice.

Defining Cher

As I was reading Annie Zaleski’s 2025 Cher book I tracked down some of her sources for quotes I didn’t recognize. That led me to this Elle article from back in 2018, an interview with Cher about her new Broadway musical.

It had some good quotes and conceptualizations by Abbie Aquirre on Cher.

“Have you ever stopped to think about Cher? You are aware of her, of course, the way you are aware of the sun, with its blinding light, its rising and setting. But have you ever considered the totality of Cher—not just the celestial body herself, and not just the epic arc she has traveled, but the sheer range of stellar explosions she has undergone?”

She goes through all the Cher variants: the ones from Sonny & Cher Cher (pop star Cher and then TV star—the Cher, pulling in “30 million viewers” a week), along side the 1960s and 70s solo career Cher.

“Many more Chers followed,” she said, including Disco Cher, Roller-Skating Cher, Punk Cher and Rock ‘n’ Roll Cher. Then Best-Actress Cher working with the likes of Meryl Streep, Jack Nicholson and Nicolas Cage [not to mention the directors]. Then there was Battleship-Thong Cher, fashion icon Cher and much later Autotune Cher.

And this is what I mean when I describe Cher’s performance width as being vaudevillian versus a career of particular depth in one area. (Both are good, it’s just that vaudevillian types are more rare these days since the death of the variety show.)

When Aguirre talks about her feelings interviewing Cher she has an almost existential crisis, “Wait, Cher is also an actual human.” She describes Cher’s strong presence that is also “quiet, still calm, even delicate…open and listening, and thus exposed. If in her work she is an output, in person she is on input. Powerful but not overpowering.”

She says, “Nicolas Cage gets at this quality when I ask him to describe her acting talent. ‘Cher is a person with a huge heart, and that really comes through not only in her music but as a screen performer. She has an extraordinary blend of strength and vulnerability on-camera,’ he says.”

She quotes young Broadway Cher actress, Micaela Diamond, to say about Cher, “To be so vulnerable and yet have the most power in the room, that’s a really hard place to stand in.”

Aguirre decides Cher is “both otherworldly and relatable.”

She quotes Meryl Streep admiring Cher’s “deep, velvet, mature [singing] voice” and to say that Cher’s crooked teeth “made her even more perfect.”

Meryl Streep is one of the few great actresses to defend Cher’s television work: “She made everybody else on TV look like they were trying too hard, pushing. She was so immediate, free, and she was canny about landing the jokes. Skilled, but it was invisible.”

Aguirre covers the trials of Sonny and confirms what Cher says: “Cher walked away with nothing.” And explains how it was worse than nothing.

I wonder if that’s why Cher wore shredded pants at the Grammys Sunday night, to symbolize her eras of poverty. (I kid.) But honestly, I bet the cost of her outfit could pay for my roof that is being replaced right now over my head as we speak.

Yes, literally (and figuratively) my roof is falling down, but at least Cher is still giving me some bits of diversion.

Alive From New York…It’s Saturday Night

For those of you who know me personally, you’ve already heard the news that my mother passed away at the beginning of the year after a long, depressing battle with COPD.

I had been waiting for the new year to write about Cher’s heavily-anticipated 20 December appearance on Saturday Night Live and now somehow those two things have converged.

The episode was a ratings boost for the SNL, whether you believe this was due to Ariana Grande hosting, musical guest Cher or the emotional departure of Bowen Yang, or a combination of all three. Arianna Grande did a great job. She was funny and mastered many different characters. I don’t watch the show very often, but overall it seemed like a good Christmas episode.

Cher only appeared in one extra skit, the Delta Lounge skit, and then Kenan Thomson did a spoof of “Believe” as a corrupt black Santa Claus.

I watched the show live at my brother’s house in Cleveland. My brother, sister-in-law and niece Eliza were there and one of her local friends came over to watch. It was very interesting to see the show with young women. My sister-in-law asked Eliza’s friend if she even knew who Cher was. My family is convinced Cher is a flash-in-the-pan and no statistics or living legend inductions will convince them otherwise.  Alternatively, they could be just trolling me. My family has done that in the past.

But my niece Eliza’s friend did in fact know who Cher was and was decidedly on team Cher because she thought Arianna Grande was too thin and a bad influence for young women because of it. We talked about this at length after the show and looked up pictures of Arianna Grande from years ago. My niece is a huge Arianna Grande fan going back to her early televisions shows so I could relate to what she must have been feeling, having to defend her fandom. This was what Cher fans were doing back in the mid-1970s.

A lot of discussion circled around Cher’s lip-syncing. I am usually pretty good at noting when a Cher song is too close to the album version (“DJ Play a Christmas Song” was an example of this) or when the song may have been re-recorded for the show but Cher makes mistakes in the sing-a-long (“Run Rudolph Run” matched this rubric). But my brother, an occasional live singer himself, found a new tell. He noted one time in the performance when Cher pulled the microphone away from her mouth and the vocal didn’t change to reflect this.

There was plenty of controversy about the lip-sync performances online, too. And what more can I say anyway about Cher and lip-synching or plastic surgery or autotune. Did she or didn’t she? The questions are full of schadenfreude.

I do not need to hear the opinions of other fans and non-fans about Cher controversies. For a lifetime, my own family has needled me with them. They have a particular way of asking about something with an agenda lurking in the shadows of their questions. Like over the years when the Kansas City Chiefs football team loses spectacularly. “How does John feel about the Chiefs losing?” As sports fans themselves, they don’t even need to ask the question. They just like to hear the grieving.

My ambivalence is fully on record (about football, lip-syncing, plastic surgery and autotune). I tend to like live singing, especially on a show that makes so much of its liveness. Even if the singing is not so great. But I won’t exactly rent my garments about all the American Bandstand or Solid Gold episodes of Cher lip-syncing.  Cher has sung live on hundreds of television shows in her lifetime and if she lip-syncs on every show from now until the end of her life, it won’t change the ratio all that much. But then again, the people who remember the days of Cher singing live on television are a dying cohort. And with A.I., the past is quickly becoming a fiction.

So…blah, blah, blah.

During my December visit to Cleveland, (a rush visit because my mother was suddenly declining), I learned a bit of the kids’ new slang: parasocial. For the young whipper-snappers this means a one-sided relationship with famous people who are not in any way socially related to you. I am very comforted by this new jargon because it reminds me of when my friend Christopher visited me when I lived near an Amish community in Pennsylvania. We were driving by some Amish playing volleyball and he said something like, “Imagine living your whole life not knowing who Janet Jackson is!” And I replied, “but instead, they know who their neighbors are.”

I get it, but then I’m Cher Scholar. So obviously I’m a conflicted pop-culture consumer.

So when I watched SNL again with my parents that Sunday afternoon, which was also the last moment of television I watched with my mother ever, I wasn’t surprised that she wanted to cover and recover the issue of Cher’s lip-syncing. My mother never did approve of my Cher obsession. And it’s not because she didn’t watch all of the The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour episodes because my parents faithfully did. She just wanted me to grow out of it. Whether this was because she resented my alternate-universe fantasy of glam-parents or because she was simply annoyed by the frivolity of a celebrity obsession, I do not know.

But when she got wind that Cher might not have sung “live” on Saturday Night Live, she kept asking me about it all afternoon.

Now this was also because she was failing. Mostly alert up to the end, the lack of oxygen and build-up of CO2 in her blood was causing her to forget some things and get confused. She might have just been trying to remember if I had said Cher did or didn’t sing live.

Or maybe she was needling me about it. Like if it was the last thing she did… she would remind me of Cher lip-syncing on Saturday Night Live.

My mother and I had our problems over the 57 years. We were very different people. And those differences often chafed. Even if we had been more similar, the mother-daughter relationship is a strange brew even in the best of relationships. But we had both come a long way over the last few years. My December visit with her was very emotional. We knew the end was coming. And for the last year or so,  whenever I said goodbye to her I would say, “I love you” and she would say, “I love you too…more than you know.”

And I would always be reminded that this was one of my favorite Cher songs. Similarly, after she died I came across an article about Moonstruck quoting Loretta’s recounting of her emotions after watching the opera La Bohème:

“That was so awful. Beautiful. Sad. She died.”

And the end was indeed awful, in all the ways.

My parents didn’t laugh at any of SNL skits or seem to register seeing the show (or Cher) at all. (And they watched SNL every week.) But then again they don’t seem to watch television anymore the way the rest of us do. They can never seem to consistently remember what they have just seen even a few minutes later. It’s like they’re in their own world of dreams while the television is on.

Two Saturdays later, my mother would be gone.

These last five years have been harrowing for the family, not least of all for my mother. We’ve been up and down on a neverending roller coaster since she contracted COVID back in November of 2019. She miraculously survived that and then things were looking up. Then things were not looking good again and it was a reeling see-saw month to month. We couldn’t seem to keep a direction in sight for longer than a few weeks, good or bad. It was an endless and laborious and heartbreaking switching back and forth. It wore us all down. It wore her down terribly. She was getting better. She was getting worse. There was hope. There was no hope. She was giving up. She was fighting on. Deciding how to be in that world was hard enough but somehow manageable. It was the constant switchbacks. Years of switchbacks.

 

No, I do not obsess over lip-syncing or plastic surgery or autotune. But what I have always obsessed about is the truth. Let us all acknowledge that which is true. Just be honest about it. Like Zack Bagans’ Haunted Museum in Las Vegas, Nevada. Just cop to your amazing, next-level haunted house and drop the whole museum thing. Just own whatever it is you are doing.

I get fatigued. Especially lately around so many who can’t seem to do that. I’ve also been run down by those who can’t seem to keep track of the things I’ve said. Because after this whole thing, I have no energy left to keep repeating myself. So when for the third time during watching Saturday Night Live when my mother asked me “Did Cher sing?” I responded with a combination of frustration, futility and (in hindsight) maybe even some unintentional kindness.

In the face of her suffocating death and confusion and fear and all the insurmountable loneliness to come and the sad state of world affairs today with all the lies and obfuscations (from even those who happen to love us so), what does it even matter what truth is anymore?

So when my mother asked me for the third time “Did Cher sing? I just said, “Yeah mom, she sang.”

End of 2025 Catchup

I checked Cher’s merch page and unfortunately there is not yet a Cher snow globe available. But wouldn’t that be swell?

Music

Since I’ve been working on my own Cher rabbit holes (with books and dolls), I’ve been delayed in posting the latest Cher news. And there has been quite a lot of it, the biggest of which maybe happened yesterday.

I had no idea when I woke up Sunday morning that I’d be greeted with news of new music that very day. Cher completely surprised us with a  new  Christmas single!

Some fans, me included, worried that after months of really aggressively fake Cher news on Facebook, that this too was fake news. In fact, I spent the better part of Sunday morning lying in bed trying to find confirmation on this story. I didn’t even think to go to straight to Cher’s YouTubes. Eventually I just had to rely on the reliable sources of Cher Universe and Cher Brazil. They get the scoops, those young whippersnappers.

I spoke with another Cher scholar and we wondered is this was actually a 2025 recording? There has been no context around this release (interviews, advanced press) and so it’s hard to know. Or is this an outtake of the 2023 Christmas album? Will it be resold and repackaged into the old album to tease fans into buying it once again? The song is heavy on auto-tune, which feels like Cher’s continued middle-finger into the face of auto-tunes detractors, but its also not new.

On the other hand, the lyrics speak to the from-ennui-to-anguish her fans may be dealing with in 2025 in a sort of general way that covers all of our possible scenarios.

I always appreciate the Cher-as-Mother-Figure songs. Her Cheer-Up-Kid gestures always get me. This could be because Sonny & Cher were my fantasy parents. But songs like “Chiquitita” and “Stop Crying Your Heart Out” I find very comforting. This is another song in that category. It’s been quite another rough year from this end (ending with a roof leak among other dramas), rougher probably because it’s also been rough for all my friends too.

Sometimes I feel like I’m losing my resistance and elasticity. (Don’t tell my non-Cher mother. She’s got enough to worry about.) But songs like this are very appreciated from Cher’s own brand of public surrogate motherhood.

This is also a good time to visit the Cher Scholar Christmas Page.

The new song also explains why Cher will be on Saturday Night Live on Saturday December 20, their year-end Christmas show. She’s a musical guest alongside Arianna Grande, but hopefully she’ll also appear in some of the skits. Would a duet be too much?

Let’s touch base next year on how all that turns out.

A Grammy Salute to Cyndi Lauper aired on CBS on 5 October. It was a great special all around with some fabulous and unexpected duets. Cher came out for the finale of “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” in a visual tribute to Yayoi Kusama which I love, love, loved!

Last week, Cher also received another victory against Mary Bono but this time at the federal level. Bono plans to appeal all the way to the top! (Just wow. Will the Supreme Court eventually take on this case someday? Let’s hope not.)

Cher Books

CBS Mornings (which has confusingly rebranded since I last looked from the previous title of CBS This Morning) had Cher on the show in November to talk about the paperback version of her Memoir just out. There is an appended story at the end of the paperback version, (to get us to all buy that again) about Sonny and Cher at Martoni’s Restaurant, a very funny one but not the “Laugh In” story that was left out of the hardback version, which is significant I think. Did that even happen at all?

Cher’s Memoir part two was postponed earlier this year until spring of  2026 and now reports are saying it’s furtherly postponed until fall of 2026, which will be two years after part one came out. (That’s the way it is and you’ll like it!)

Anyway, 2025 was sort of an embarrassment of riches on the Cher book front. In another post (this week) I’ll talk about Annie Zaleski’s picture bio and Natalie Hammond’s style guide.

But this week, the children’s book on Cher (from the Little Golden Book people) came out, written by Candice Ransom and  illustrated by Laura Catrinella. It’s so brief, it didn’t have the chance to print any egregious errors. Which is nice.

Some of the best drawings include:

And then there’s this picture. I’m sure many Cher fans will fight me on this one but that is definitely me in the lower left-hand corner of this picture. That’s even my facial expression at Cher concerts!

Outings 

Cher attended the Swarovski Masters of Lighting Opening Celebration in Los Angeles with Alexander Edwards on 28 October. “On the day, Cher donned a black see-through bodysuit paired with a fur crop jacket and wide pants adorned with chain decorations on the sides, exuding her unique charisma. Her signature black wavy hair and glamorous jewelry highlighted her presence as the ‘ageless diva.'” (chosun.com)

Cher was also presented with a Bambi Legende Award in Germany on 13 November.

Cher was introduced around her iconic status and humanity. In her speech Cher said she was proud to be there and felt she had a special relationship with Germany, where people seemed to always been interested in her during her career’s low ebbs. She talked about her inability to save Billy the Elephant from the L.A. Zoo. She kept saying, “I’m just a singer; I can’t do anything.” But then after telling the successful Kavaan elephant story she ended with, “I’m not just a pretty face, am I?”

Movies

Someone reached out to me from Peru about the movie Suspect.

A man named Anthony told me he had recently watched the movie on VHS and “found it very entertaining,  full of suspense and interesting moments. For example, the scene in the library” and yes that scene was very delectable!

Anthony said he searched the internet for reviews and found my Cher Zine review “full of details and very interesting observations.”

He said he was “grateful to be able to read it and that there are unique opinions” and he hoped I could read the email “and feel grateful for filling the world with culture.”

I was indeed very grateful he reached out to me. Suspect is a bit underrated as it includes a very bookish character against Cher-type and I think she does a fine job in it alongside a young Liam Neeson.

More About Me

So my friend in San Francisco and I finished reading Healing The Child Within by Charles L. Whitfield (which Cher recommends in her book Forever Fit) and we started on the comparatively very large workbook.

Oy vey! It has been a shocking experience because when I started reading the book, it felt so dated, so 80s. My friend and I have read so many other self-help books between when this one was published and now. And it seemed very substance-abuse related, which was not my family history, (in my childhood anyway). But then it turns out the childhoods explored encapsulated many more kinds of dysfunction under “also ran” where I could find my little self. The book is full of tables and charts and I could see exactly where my therapy in Los Angeles stalled when I left to move to New Mexico. I never got to core issues! Or letting the feelings go!!

So I’ll be restarting therapy next year when my insurance is sorted out. My friend and I are now deep into documenting our true and public selves. Many surprising revelations for us, I must say.

I’ll be making an unexpected visit to Cleveland next weekend so I wasn’t going to finish putting up my Christmas trees. But then I did it anyway just to cheer myself up.

 

 

Memoir vs. Memoir Part 3: the 1970s

I just need to say this again: if you had told me when I was six or seven or eight years old that one day I’d be reading Sonny’s memoir alongside Cher’s memoir, each discussing their days as Sonny & Cher, I would have fainted across my Raggedy Ann bedspread. It was inconceivable to me that such an amazing thing would happen someday in this world. That’s how much I loved Sonny & Cher.

I now think either Cher eventually read Sonny’s book or one of her ghostwriters did because their opinions, even minor ones, seem so point-to-point.  And why would they not read everything, just for research. I guess it could be an amazing coincidence, like Sonny’s image of Sonny and Cher connected to the same umbilical cord.

Anyway I’ll try not to replicate Cher’s book here because you should go out and buy it. The paperback is out now with an additional story. But let’s continue…

If you want to go back:

The Nightclubs

So Sonny admits it was Joe DeCarlo’s idea to try out nightclubs. This is big. Cher and the world usually give that idea to Sonny. Sonny calls the period a “bumpy road personally.” Cher says they actually got back on track as a family during this period. And Cher calls it Supper Theater. The Supper Club circuit. Places like the Flamingo in Las Vegas and the circuit of hotel and casino dinner theaters.

Cher remembers she was “relieved to be working” and they traveled with Chas in a wicker crib and their nanny Heidi, “the sweetest woman in the world.” Chastity’s first two years were on the road and her first milestones all in motels and hotels. Cher says Chas was our early entertainment and “such a gift.” The band and hotel staff held her all the time and her “feet never touched the ground. Cher says, “she was the sole focus of our long road back to who we once were. “ Even though they had no money or house and had hotplate meals, the three of them hung out together and “no matter the circumstances, Sonny could always make me laugh.” Cher is unequivocable: “struggling again helped revitalize our relationship…being poor narrowed our focus—how to best spend our time, made us feel three of us against the world.” (This is the “backs against the wall” era.) Cher says Sonny was a big kid, very creative, and she could happily watch him play with Chas for hours.

“Our world consisted of the three of us.” This sounds very happy but Sonny portrays it all unhappy and remembered only the struggle.

He says, they “struggled to find chemistry off stage” and he says he took some of the act’s barbs personally. He does start to worry he is being too bossy and that he lives too much in fantasy land. He admits he was “obsessed” with Cher’s “steamy love scene” with Steve Whitaker in the Chastity movie. He worried that his jealousy meant they didn’t “get it on film.”

Later in the book Sonny will claim that Cher’s unhappiness came out of left field. But here he acknowledges their fights over the busy schedule he arranged and he admits they “worked their asses off” in the summer of 1970 and that may have “cost us our relationship.” He mentions making the Dick Van Dyke TV special (he doesn’t mention its name, The First Nine Months Are the Hardest) and how it was hard to be on the road again and playing two shows a night. “We were up and down on planes…packing and unpacking…walking through smelly kitchens late at night…not connecting well.” He says Cher saw it as “a treadmill going nowhere.” He also says, “our enthusiasm for life was too low to pick up” and “you feel miserable.”

Cher does say ”every night was like a war” but she’s talking about with the audience.

Only Cher mentions the Love American Style appearance in January of 1971. Cher talks about how kind Sonny was during her panic attacks and his “odd” experiments like having her sing Puccini’s “Un bel dì, vedremo” from Madame Butterfly.

Cher explains how the new act developed from drunks in crowds and how she started talking to the band and making them laugh. She didn’t get the side eye from Sonny because it was working and at least they were entertaining each other. Cher calls it “always hit or miss” and that very “slowly we developed a [20 minute] act people would line up to see.” She notes it was “not our singing. “They wanted to hear our jokes.” Cher talks about her heritage of wiseassery. But that “never in a gazillion years did I imagine that I’d become a standup comedian.” Cher explains the type of jokes they told: about Sonny’s mother, his height, his singing, his hopes of becoming a sex symbol, her nose, her body type. Cher says it was accidental and “We got excited again.” They both tell some of the jokes they did.  Cher says, “Timing was everything” and she could “make Sonny laugh so much he couldn’t sputter out his lines.”

Sonny’s version: “We gradually developed a humorous and fairly sophisticated repartee.”

Cher again says their stage personas were the opposite of their off-stage relationship. Cher tells a story of trying to confide unhappiness in Sonny and his explosion and threat to divorce her.

Cher does talk about the discomfort of it, how that “felt horrible.” They would be in motels across the street from venues and casinos. Train whistles would keep them up at night. Bad plumbing. Mildew on the walls. Paper thin walls. Sonny would make them hot-plate pasta for the family and the band because they couldn’t afford restaurants. Cher admits sometimes “I wanted to curl up and die.”  Cher says they’d take the service elevator and then navigate their way through the busy kitchen trying not to slip on any grease or wok into a waiter flying past carrying five plates and standing by the swinging doors and trying to keep out of the way, listening for their cue. Then walk out smiling.

She says her sister was  traveling with them, too.

Sonny admits that although they were feuding, they were also other’s best friends. He says there are talks of a TV show but nothing came of it. Cher talks about the Century Plaza comedian night and working on The Nitty Gritty Hour special, which she says felt formulaic and nothing came of it.

Sonny’s August 26 1970 diary entry admitted Cher was complaining that he was pushing too hard. He says that during weeks in New Orleans they barely spoke unless they were fighting. (Later he will say he had no idea she felt this way.)

Cher says, “I felt permanently tired.”

Sonny says they would dress up to play to 12 people, where they used to play for tens of thousands. He says they were “not concerned with putting on a good show” but “how can I get out of this situation?”

Cher says it’s a “thousand times harder to come back than become, almost impossible.” And she concurs that they were used to 30 thousand screaming fans and were lucky now if they had more than 100. One of the midnight shows at the Elmwood there was only 4 people. Some “real dives.” They were used to kids who “knew every word of our songs” and now played “to people who didn’t know us,” people who were coming for dinner and drinks, not to see a show.

At this time Sonny said he felt Cher’s “admiration for him was zip” and that he was worried about the survival of Sonny & Cher but she was only worried about her own survival.  It’s in the middle of this, (not at the massive tax debt episode where Cher puts it) that Sonny says he asked Cher for 3 years (not 2) to get them back on top.

They both agreed they communicated better in Sonny’s diary.

He shares his September 11 diary entry (paperback, 1812) which has similar verbiage to the one Cher mentions in her memoir (hardback, 207) , the one that talks about Cher being “my stability, my generator. I need you to believe in me Cher” and Cher responds: “I am you. That’s scary to me. Even if you left me, you couldn’t rid your body of me. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud.” Maybe these are two different entries they’re talking about. They don’t read the same in each book. This also wasn’t one of the ones Mary Bono republished in People Magazine.

But in hindsight Cher felt she did believe in Sonny because “Sonny believed in us…he kept pushing,” getting them TV appearances and shows.

Sonny says they were “popping” and “generating heat” and selling out shows and “drawing” in Las Vegas, where they shared a bill with David Brenner and Frankie Avalon. They didn’t even have a hit record, Sonny marvels. He says the true benchmark of their worth was “how hotels received us.”

Both end chapters before they start to talk about their new TV show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour.

The First TV Show & Records

Sonny says TV executive Fred Silverman, a “genius programmer at CBS Television” saw them at the Waldorf Astoria.

Cher says it was around 2 years to the day that Fred Silverman saw their performance at The Royal Box Supper Club in the Americana hotel. Cher says by this time their act was “razor sharp.” Then they were sub-hosts on the Merv Griffin Show.

Sonny says, “Silverman arranged for us to serve as guests on the Merv Griffin show and they went over big. Silverman sent a congratulatory letter.”

Cher says Silverman wanted younger viewers. He sent producers Bearde and Bly to the Fairmont Hotel where they saw some raw talent and all hit it off. On their way back to LA on the plane, they sketched out the show. I remember Bearde and Bly saying the same thing on some Cher documentary, maybe Behind the Music.

In the meantime, Sonny says, a friend from his record promo days, Johnny Musso, signed Cher to Kapp Records and Sonny says, “he was taking a risk.” Musso “didn’t want me to produce.” This is the second time Sonny is asked not to be producer. “He wanted to use Snuff Garrett. I was bored by the studio and Snuff was a friend back to Liberty Records.”

Because of the TV schedule, Cher says, they had one week to finish this first record. Cher “loved Snuffy” because he was funny and great at his job, a “get it done” kind of guy. Sonny was busy with other things, Cher says, like arranging the tours.

Silverman arranged for a replacement series of 7 shows, Sonny says, and their ratings were good.

Cher calls it a summer of 6 shows and their show led into the miniseries about six wives of Henry VIII, every night a different wife. Fact check: there were 6.

Then in September the single “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” was released and 7 weeks later it hit #1. Sonny counts every chart position and he gets them right. Cher tends to get them wrong. Cher talks about the cover, the accent on her name, how it was her first top ten solo (“Bang Bang” went to #2 and “You’d Better Sit Down Kids” to #9). The album went gold and the song was nominated for a Grammy. She was working so hard she doesn’t remember how it felt. She only remembers being on the road, country fairgrounds and “huge crowds for us” but also being exhausted.

Sonny is frustrated with this. “Cher was sleeping” he says disparagingly at ever milestone of good fortune. He feels he is the only one enjoying it. Then he fires Joe DeCarlo because he’s taking 20% (the combined 10% each that 1960s managers Stone and Greene were getting). Besides, he has his road manager Denis Prognolato who he says was doing all the work anyway.

Remember Denis was the spy in tennis-lesson-gate, friend to Sonny. Not so much to Cher.

Cher says around this time Sonny changed. He hires lawyer Irwin Spiegel and is always in meetings with him smoking cigars.

The album Sonny & Cher Live comes out and goes to #35.

The “All I Ever Need Is You” single goes to #7 and the album to #14. The single “When You Say Love” goes to #32. This is all Sonny recounting.

But we could have used more of Sonny’s view about his own songs here, just like with “I Got You Babe” and “The Beat Goes On.”  He had three songs on All I Ever Need Is You. He says nothing about “A Cowboys’ Work is Never Done” except that it was a top 10 song in April of 1972 (#8).

Things are going good, Sonny says. The Comedy Hour got a greenlight. Their Vegas shows are sold out with “traffic backed up nightly.” But he feels deflated when Cher says she “wished they were really big, like the Rolling Stones or Dylan.” They are selling seats for $500. He says he feels invalidated and Cher is always the victim. (Which is neck-breaking projection in one paragraph). He thinks Cher is tired of S&C and hates sharing the spotlight. Cast and crew of the variety show, including Bob Mackie, the producers, the first hairdresser, just don’t back this up. There is the famous story about how Sonny would say “jump” and Cher would say “how high,” plus the fact that he said himself Cher had anxiety and hated performing without him, and in the 1970s would prefer to perform through him.

Sonny sees they are drifting apart. He wants you to know he sees and yet he also reserves the right to be completely taken by surprise later.  He feels they are still connected, intwined, “still drew life from the same umbilical chord and to think of severing ties seemed suicidal.” (Which shows he was thinking about it.)

Cher agrees and says they had a strange relationship as husband and wife, best friends, parents, partners and strangers.

Sonny says they went “from hasbeens to hot stuff “ and that he reinvested most of “our salary” into show, which had a 35k weekly budget. Which he said was “peanuts in prime time.” How’d they afford The Big House then? Because they were broke at the start of this decade. Sonny talks about their nose jobs and Cher’s breast reshaping and the infected scars that resulted.

The both agree they loved their televisions show. Sonny says, “the show was a blast to do. Even on our bad days we had fun.” He says Cher had her dream gowns of Bob Mackie.

In Cher’s version she had to fight for Bob Mackie. Ret Turner was already assigned to the show. She got Mackie to intervene and persevere. Cher became friends with both men. Cher says the small budget gave the show a family dynamic in the beginning.

Her first favorite dress was the red one with the open stomach, but that she loved the beautiful beaded shimmery gowns, which later came to cost 5k per dress. Cher says she was a size 6 at 108 pounds and her body type had come into vogue. (We could argue she helped it get there with her TV show.) Cher talks about John Wilson, the set, their coordinated outfits, how they both walked on stage with interlocking fingers, and her feeling “this is what I’m supposed to do.”

Cher has much more room to talk about the details of the show, what they did on which days, who the guest stars were, the role of Chastity, the innuendos and the lack of censorship, about the audience feedback. She said she could look back at the script Sonny wrote (“virtually by himself”) for Good Times and suddenly see it was “way ahead of its time.”  She talks about the first taping, the issues with her skin and hair.

Cher said Silverman was like a father figure. She talked about the difference between their written lines and their improvisations, how Sonny didn’t memorize anything and relied on cue cards, whereas she would memorize the scripts “on first sight.” She said she “let him flounder,” go along and then get him with a one-liner. She said the show was set up for Sonny to be the straight man. And they encouraged him to be silly. “He knew I had his back,” Cher says. She felt they were more equals on the show. “Sonny learned his own style of comedy and was hilarious. People loved him.” Cher says when they went to work, they got along. “I don’t remember a single show when we were angry with each other.”

Sonny says they had “top-notch writers” but he doesn’t mention any names of the cast or crew. He says Cher still had stage freight and worked to the cameras and through characters. But it gelled, was “hip and kooky.” Sonny talks about his “Fair Cher” poems and Cher’s impeccable timing” but he says now Cher is “impossible to read.”

Cher says they had a great crew and the producers did a great job. She says the reviews improved and they were renewed for 13 more shows. Critics said they were “endearingly mismatched” and they liked the screw ups and ad libs and the married-people affection like Sonny brushing hair from Cher’s face. Cher talks about director Art Fisher’s pioneering chroma key/blue screen, her iconic Vamp and Laundromat skits. She mentions Ted Zeigler, Freeman King, Peter Cullen, Murray Langston and Steve Martin “who went out tour with us after shows.” She talks about singing the old songs. She says she needed Sonny for those solos and couldn’t have done them without him. (This doesn’t sound like a woman who had been trying to distance herself from him.)

Cher says they were a Monday night institution and a top 10 hit with millions of viewers at a time. Market research found  Sonny loveable and Cher beautiful with her array of clothes. Cher then talks about recovering on weekends with Chas. After a show wrap, she would “go home, go look at the baby, wash face, brush teeth, watch TV, go to sleep.”

She remembers their days at their house at Oxnard Beach which were “some of our happiest days.”

Sonny agrees that at that time they felt like “a cozy family unit.”

Cher talks about being TV famous and how work was a safe zone, that they never fought on the set. [Charo tells a story of overhearing fights on the set and there were those Battling Bonos rumors.]

The Big House

Architectural Digest reported in 2019 the house was on sale for $115 million. More history (considering the short time they lived there, all tenants considered, it’s interesting that the house is still referred to as the Sonny & Cher house/estate) and updates through the years.

They were living in the 34-room mansion known as the St. Cloud house and it was 8 weeks into season 1 of their show and Tony Curtis, ever the opportunist Sonny says, sold them another house known as The Big House, now known as Owlwood or sometimes Carolwood Estate. Curtis said to Sonny, “You’re stars. You should reside in heaven!” The house was $750,000. Both houses seemed like a trophy, Sonny says, and that the Big House was 54 rooms and 30,000 sq ft. [Wikipedia says the house is 12,000 sq ft.]

Sonny says the purchase was a grave mistake and there were lots of misfortunes associated with the house and it was too big for a tiny family. He said the house had cold, bad vibes and was only good for hiding troubles. You wonder then why he later wanted to fight for it. He says Cher furnished it in three days.

Cher says “I don’t think anyone ever sat in the living room.”

Cher admits she broke down in tears asking Sonny if they could buy it. Cher says she rarely cried or asked for anything.” She says, Sonny wanted the house too because it was “a gargantuan symbol of our comeback,” their “castle on the hill” and that it would change things. Cher admits she had the house decorated with antiques from Europe. She says, “it was stunning” and she lists the outdoor buildings and describes Chas’ bedroom, although notes that Chas preferred the tack house to her bedroom (famously depicted on Sonny & Cher’s last duet album). The kitchen was her least favorite, Cher said and that the paneled library was her favorite space and one of the smallest. Cher correctly notes the 12, 200 sq ft of the house with 9 bedrooms, 10 baths. Sonny never wanted to throw parties, she said, except for Thanksgiving, Christmas and Chas’ birthday.  Sonny stopped her friends like Joey from coming over.

Busyness & Las Vegas

Cher says Sonny was “turning into one of ‘the suits.'” He wasn’t happy being an entertainer but wanted to be a mogul. She missed the old pasta-making Sonny with Chas on his hip. Now he just spent hours in meeting with lawyers. Cher talks about “The Benevolent Army of El Primo,” the jackets, all which was kind of a joke but kind of not a joke. Cher feels herself disconnecting, shutting down in fights. The CBS family “kept me going” she says but she longed to have own opinions and make friends. She felt closed in. They had no dinners out, no concerts, no movies. Their relationship was all work. Outside of that she had shopping and Chas.

Sonny feels Cher is ungrateful. Cher says Sonny was on a mission never to be poor again.

Sonny acknowledges it was a hectic calendar. “If there was a break in the TV show, I booked out of town concerts…That’s where the big money was.” He said they made 50-60k on a good night. They made 4 million that way, he says and that “Cher’s complaints were a broken record.” [But during the breakup story below, he will act dumbfounded.]

Cher’s defense: “Work was hard on me” and she said she had a more demanding TV show schedule than Sonny did. Sonny also wanted them to be recording new [solo and duet] music and doing shows on the road. “We have to make the most of this second chance…this is our time,” Cher remembers Sonny saying.  Everything became “a big blur,” all the TV work, fittings, photoshoots, interviews, tours, recordings, being a mom. She said they did 50 shows that year and Sonny arranged it so they would have to tape 2 shows a week sometimes, film two shows in 3 days show so they could spend 9 days on the road. It saved the producers money but Cher felt she had no time to catch a breath and it was double work for everyone on the show. She said they did that about once a month. She quotes producer George Schlatter as saying, “If Sonny & Cher were driving into Hollywood from the valley, Sonny would take a gig on Mulholland to break up the trip.”

Sonny says he was “building our savings” and he understood that “she hated the grind” and how she never could play in Vegas without getting sick, which Sonny took as “an excuse to cut the run short.” Sonny loved Vegas. “We were huge there…broke house records.” Sonny loved the “Disneyland for adults” aspect, what he called “the dark artificiality” of it. He admits Cher hated “everything about it” and that she hid in hotel room with room service and the TV. He pictured her as reclusive as Hugh Hefner, which is a tragic misreading of a person desperate to go out and have some fun for a change, just not in anyway like the way Sonny wanted to have fun.

Sonny went to see Elvis with Denis. He’d never seen Elvis but they often played Vegas at the same time. Sonny was fascinated by his power over an audience. It’s interesting to compare how Sonny and Cher each describe seeing Elvis perform. They are both mesmerized by it.

Elvis invited Sonny and Denis backstage “I’d never seen anyone like Elvis,” whom Sonny said had the charisma to transform a mediocre show. Sonny said Elvis “didn’t give a shit” and like Cher he would probably rather trade handshakes for money than perform. Sonny doesn’t mention this but like Elvis, Cher would also become a mesmerizing and hypnotic personality.

Sonny is actually great at explaining Elvis in his book, though. He said Elvis told him he liked the S&Cs version of “What Now My Love [Sonny mis punctuates the title] and that he listened to it before recording his own version (which sounds more like the original French version to me).

Sonny said he and Cher had a private plane and would be mobbed at airports, and that they had packed shows. But that Cher was “absorbed in needlepoint” on plains and in dressing rooms and always looking bored and disinterested.

Cher says she needlepointed herself half to death from the stress.

Sonny says romance became a commodity. Both agree they were suppressing their relationship troubles.

Cher felt alienated, not allowed to have friends over or “fraternize with the band.” By this time her sister was busy working as an actress. Cher tells about the Tupperware story and this is one of the final straws.

The Breakup Story

Sonny begins his breakup chapter with two diary entries that look back on the implosion, his November 4, 1972, entry where “Everything has exploded. Chastity doesn’t know mom and dad are on the ropes.” He says he’s been so worried about their careers, he’s never worried about their relationship.  [Sonny, even your own diary begs to differ].

Then a few days later on November 11, “Cher wants to run like a racehorse but she can’t find a track. I used to be the jokey. She shoved the saddle up my ass.”

[This is a terrible analogy because it kind of proves Cher’s point. She’s not a horse. WTH.] He says Cher was “admittedly miserable.” He talks about the worst time in his life, when he was married to Donna and lost his job before Christmas and then his car broke down.

They both take time to tell this story.

Sonny introduces the day by talking about Cher being antsy and unhappy (for no reason he can understand).

Cher introduces her version by talking about her breakup catalyst, not Bill Hamm (Sonny never obscures his name), but her soon-to-be best friend, Paulette, who was a 21-year-old worldly Armenian, sophisticated and dating their road manager, Jerry Ridgeway. They’ve been best friends for over 50 years now, Cher says. And Cher was initially allowed this friend because for some reason “Sonny never saw her as a threat.” [And he never acknowledges Paulette’s role in their breakup in his own memoirs.] Cher enjoyed listening to Paulette’s life stories. They each wanted the other’s life. By that time Cher says she wasn’t eating or sleeping. (In Forever Fit Cher Cher says she was suicidal and down to 94 pounds, only eating a few bites of egg a day.) Cher says she feels the TV show changed Sonny completely but that she still loved him. “He didn’t notice me anymore” because he was trying to be a mogul. This is a consistent Cher story in interviews (from at least Believe-era on). Cher felt she couldn’t trust him anymore and she was needlepointing herself “to death.” She is candid that she had no desire to have more kids with Sonny although she admitted he was a great dad and that he and Chaz had a special relationship that “didn’t include me.” Chas was El Primo, Jr.

Cher says that they had back-to-back shows in Reno and Las Vegas. At the Sahara they had two shows a night in the Congo Room. She was feeling trapped. Paulette was starting to help her as a gofer and a dresser. After shows, Paulette would hang out with the band smoking pot, drinking beer, playing guitars. Cher was envious of her stories.

Cher says she was exhausted and asked Sonny for a vacation to Europe and he rolled his eyes. He called her selfish. Cher says she was crazy with loneliness and had been sitting on the balcony rails of hotel rooms ready to jump “five or six times” (!!!) But “one morning everything changed.” Between shows that day she figured she could just leave Sonny. Paulette was oblivious to Cher’s condition and told her about Bill Hamm’s crush on her. There’s a story with the Etch-a-Sketch and the song “Superstar.”

Sonny says It was a Saturday night. “Cher and I were breaking attendance records while ignoring our personal differences.” Between shows, Sonny remembers that he, Cher, Denis and our guitarist Bill Hamm went over to the Hilton to see Tina Turner. They then went back to Flamingo and did their late show and received three standing ovations. David Brenner was their opening act and jokes about “the dough we were making” and “our opulent suite.”

Cher says it was The Righteous Brothers that the band wanted to see at the Hilton Hotel and that Cher went with Paulette and Ridgeway. Not Sonny. Everyone acted like she was crazy for doing something without Sonny. She sat next to Bill and he put his hand on her knee. (I can’t wait for this movie.)

In Cher’s version, she returned from the Righteous Brothers and had to ignore Sonny’s fury. She left for her dressing room, ignoring him. After the show she told Paulette she wanted to hang out with the band and they hung out in Jeff Porcaro’s room. None of this is in Sonny’s book. Cher said the band was “nervous as hell.” Bill and Cher left to go look for cigarettes. They ran into David Brenner. Cher says David and Brenner were close and Brenner was nervous about seeing Cher out and about without Sonny, too. Bill asks Cher how she can live this way. Some kissing happens. They go back into the room. Sonny calls pissed. Cher says she’s just hanging with the guys. “You could have heard a pin drop in the room,” Cher says. Cher says she told Sonny on the phone that she was bringing Bill up to their room.

Sonny says they were exhausted after the second show and there was strained conversation at the elevator. On the road, Sonny says, they had a truce to engage in “shallow chitchat” because they were “forced to share close quarters.” (How does he not see a train wreck coming?) Anyway, Sonny says he is looking forward to sleep. [This must be one of the nights he wasn’t out with other women.] Cher shot me a pained look. “Bill Hamm is coming up,” Sonny remembers Cher saying. He figured they were working on songs together. [How was that allowed? Working on music without Sonny?] When they get to the hotel room, Sonny has Cher saying, “I’m in love with Bill Hamm. I want you to leave.”

Says says he wanted to talk about it. “Let’s talk, okay.” Sonny says he “never suspected” was “shocked” and felt “flat-footed.” He admits he thought of killing Bill Hamm or hitting him. Sonny says when Bill came in to the room, he was oblivious but soon figured it out. (Sonny is always more sympathetic to Cher’s boyfriends and husbands than he was to Cher somehow.) He said Cher had a “fearless nerve.”

Cher says the nerve was all Bill Hamm’s who must have had “balls the size of something huge.” (That’s how much everyone was afraid of Sonny.) Cher doesn’t have Sonny asking to talk about anything. She has him in a chair staring her down and she remembers shocking herself by saying she wants to sleep with Bill in their room. She says she didn’t mean it but it seemed like an expeditious was to escape The Sonny. Cher says Sonny returned silence (not a plea for dialogue) and that he asked her “how long to you think you’ll need?” Cher said two hours and not another word was spoken and Sonny left the room.

According to Sonny, he fantasized about breaking whiskey bottles over their heads or perhaps destroying the suite (which would have been a real rock star move for him). But he just left, felling defeated, like a “zombie.”

Cher acknowledges that she had put Hamm in jeopardy. She said they just spent the night talking. Cher appreciated his friendship and sympathy and she cried on his shoulder.

Sonny says he went to play Blackjack (which is kind of odd) and that Bill’s girlfriend tapped him on the shoulder looking for Bill. Sonny says he told her what was going on. Sonny said, “let’s go to your room” and “she did not hesitate.” Wow. They had retribution sex which was unsatisfying. Sonny says, because they “bumped into each other with the enthusiasm of two people who had just been mugged.” (Very good metaphor though.)

Sonny says Bill returned in the morning. Sonny and the unnamed “girl” where still together in bed. “He brushed by me as if I was not there.” When Sonny returned to the opulent S&C suite, it was 5 am and Cher was asleep in bed. Sonny says he took off his wedding ring (and you wonder if he had it on all those times he was cheating on Cher) and had a “disturbed” sleep next to Cher.

In Cher’s version, Sonny returns at 5 am. They agree on this.

But Sonny says he wanted to talk to Cher when they both woke up and he remembers telling her it wasn’t too late to change things. Cher asked him what he did last night and he said “I screwed Bill’s girlfriend.” And Cher said, “that’s funny, we didn’t even go to bed together.” Sonny said he wanted to ring her neck. (You have to admit, he was easily played into that situation. In his own version of it, anyway.)

Sonny says they then talked the entire day about everything, how the love was gone and he says Cher was “calm and casual.” Sonny says he tried talking to her because he says he knew she didn’t love Bill Hamm. “He was a pawn in her game,” the last “straw to break my back…he was her way out of Sonny & Cher.”

This is all very strident projection because there is no outside collaboration and Cher denies ever wanting to “escape Sonny & Cher,” although she did want to escape the schedule and the loneliness.

Sonny admits he was “also stark, raving mad…the closest I’ve come to real craziness.”

According to Cher there was no conversation. He treated her very coldly when he came back and by then she knew he didn’t love her anymore. She says while she was half asleep Sonny pulled off her wedding ring. (which is very creepy). She says she woke up in the afternoon and Sonny was gone and she knew there was no way she could perform that night. It was then, Cher says, that Sonny sent Chas and their nanny back to L.A., “another of his unilateral decisions.”

Sonny says Cher insisted on her love for Bill during that day-long conversation. Their next showtime was approaching. Sonny says he asked Cher to have Bill come up and they all talked in the dressing room but the “discussion was a futile waste of breath.” Sonny admitted he couldn’t perform until there was resolution to the drama. Their manager had been calling them all day on the phone and leaving notes under their hotel door. At 4 pm, they cancelled the remaining shows that night and for the rest of the run. Unfortunately no one told their opening act, David Brenner, Sonny says, and so he showed up for his cue   at 8 pm.

[It was due to the cancellations that rumors started in the press about Sonny having assaulted Cher. See the Rolling Stone interview of 1973.]

Sonny says, “Denis went off to kill Bill.” (I should watch that movie.)

Sonny says Denis spoke to Cher, saying she wanted to leave town. Dennis agreed it was a good idea. They feared CBS would hear the news. Cher wanted to go to San Francisco with Bill. “Dennis made the arrangements.” He also hired a P.I. to follow her but the P.I. lost Cher at the San Francisco airport.

Sonny says he booked Chas and the Nanny on a plane to L.A. (making it sound like he did that after Cher left town). Sonny says he was “too numb” to function and when he got back to L.A. he stayed in bed depressed for two weeks and got down to 130 pounds.

According to Cher, her exit day happened differently. That day she went walking on the strip alone, but she was sent back into the hotel by autograph seekers. She found Sonny sulking in his dressing room. She asked him for $500 in cash. He gave her the money without saying anything except that America would hate her for breaking them up.

Cher says she left for Paulette and Jerry’s room as a safe hideout. Bill was there getting ready to leave for Texas. It is here, Cher says, when she found out Sonny slept with Bill’s girlfriend in revenge the night before, not from a conversation with Sonny earlier that morning. Cher asked Bill to go to San Francisco with her instead of back to Texas. All she could think of was going to Sausalito. Cher says nothing about Denis Pregnolato arranging anything with Sonny’s blessing. And it’s doubtful she would trust Denis (after Tennis-Lesson-gate). According to Cher is was Jerry Ridgeway who loaned Cher his rental car and he was worried about it, afraid of losing his job. Hamm and Cher then took separate cars from the San Francisco airport but got lost in that fog. Cher knew the P.I. was behind them and they got lost too, she says. They all ended up back at the airport hotel.

But then Sonny says Cher called Denis a day after they left saying she wanted to come home but that she feared Sonny’s reaction. Cher came back to their bedroom but Sonny says they were “strangers, zombies, enemies.” Luckily, Sonny says, they had 54 rooms to spread out in.

In Cher’s version, she says Denis found them at the San Francisco hotel and called to threaten them, saying it would be “really bad for Bill if you don’t come home.”

Cher says within a week they were back filming the TV show. She confirms Sonny looked bad when she arrived home, exhausted. She said he had the demeanor of being beaten and looked gaunt. But immediately she was pulled into a meeting with Irwin, the lawyer, about breaches of contracts and costings of millions.

Sonny says this all happened right before taping the 1972 Christmas show. And that the producers knew but they kept it a secret. At the end of November, Sonny says he went traveling for two weeks to clear his head. He went to France, England, Nassau and Miami but he had no fun. (If only he had only consented to this trip with Cher when she pleaded for it, maybe none of this would have happened.)

In his December 1972 diary, Sonny talks about how they look like a “warm and loving” couple but the situation “felt cold and hateful.” Sonny admits that his next conversations with Cher were about keeping the business together (and that begs the question of why she would agree to that if she was trying to get out of the act). He says he did most of the talking “in a familiar repetition” of past conversations. (So how did he ever know how she felt about anything ever?) He says Cher agreed they were in a “lucrative business” and they agreed to have separate personal lives.

(So either Cher wanted out of the act or she didn’t. It doesn’t sound like she did. She was willing to keep it going.)

A later Sonny diary entry talks about how neither Cher nor Sonny had any kind of family life and that Cher used to worry about that, according to Sonny. “I would tell her we would build our own. Now again I have no family.” Sonny does seem to feel victimized but likes to attribute that to Cher. But it is a sad diary entry, nonetheless. Sonny’s diary gets a bit  melodramatic (understandably): “She’s not mine anymore. Nothing has any meaning.”

Sonny claims Cher was a changed person (too) but that he wouldn’t trade those ten years because “they were the best of my life.” (I do feel Sonny is being honest here but that he has serious blind spots in hindsight.)

Sonny says they each moved into one half of The Big House. Sonny claims they did the same thing “with our money, our daughter and everything else.” (Except, stay tuned, they never did divide the money.)  And, he says, they attempted to separate without disaster. He understands by then that Cher wants freedom. “I thought I was teaching; she thought I was intimidating.” [But then so did the whole band think he was intimidating.]

Cher says she had no money and never did receive her share. Leaving Sonny was losing all the money. (That alone makes you believe she would have stayed if she could). Cher says she was given $5,000 a month (no chump change) while they were separated and a rented condo in Malibu near Moonshadows where she spent a lot of time sleeping. Bill Hamm came to visit there (and you get the sense that here is where she learned what a good relationship could be like) but they weren’t allowed to go out to dinner or to movies and she was never allowed to be seen in the company of other men in public. Sonny had no such stipulations it would seem.

After the Breakup

By the summer of 1973 Sonny says he was no longer trying to get back together with Cher. (Which is a strange thing to say but Cher has reported in the past that there was a period when he was doing that, trying to get back together.)

It seems like pretty soon he moved their secretary, Connie Foreman, into the Sonny wing of the Big House. Sonny mentions Cher didn’t seem upset by this. Sonny calls Connie a former cigarette girl at Pips (that club where Lucille Ball would show up and they would all play backgammon) and I’m reminded here of his violently slapping the cigarette tray into the face of the cigarette girl in their movie Good Times.

Cher says Connie was their assistant and agrees with Sonny. She liked Connie and says Connie would get tired of Sonny’s rules and come over to hang out in Cher’s wing to listen to music and smoke cigarettes.

Cher says she became friends with Sonny again, that they could enjoy each other again. Sonny tells her he thought about throwing her off the balcony back in Vegas and says he would have pleaded insanity. Then getting a book deal and TV show from it. (Yikes!) Cher said living with him made her want to jump off the balcony. They laughed.

Sonny says friendliness on his part was an act “deserving an Academy Award.” Ouch. At home, he says they were two strangers. Sonny says he still saw Bill as her pawn. He thinks the same, he says, about future boyfriends Robert Camilletti and Richie Sambora. Neither of these men have said they felt like pawns and have pretty much only good things to say about their time with Cher (Sambora commenting pretty recently). Gregg Allman’s worst comment about Cher was to say she wasn’t a good singer. (Imagine!) Sonny says Cher “wears men like ornaments.” Then he goes on to admit he went out to party at the clubs after they broke up, “hitting on chicks right and left.” (I think this man has previous sentence amnesia, but we can all see his stripes, right?) Anyway, he says Cher and Bill broke up after several months and she started dating their keyboard player David Paich. Then Bernie Taupin.

This all happened around the time of her hit “Half Breed” and what Cher calls a “grueling summer tour.”

Cher talks about “pianist David Paich,” whose father Marty was their orchestra leader. (Sonny doesn’t mention this.) Cher said this only lasted during the grueling summer tour. Cher says it was during this tour that Cher, Paulette, Paich, the Porcaro bothers, Hungate and Lukather (I will now start calling them Proto-Toto) were hanging out in a playground on the  swings after which Sonny via his loyal guy Denis called each member of the band individually to threaten to break fingers and blow up cars for hanging out with Cher.  The band and even Paulette stopped talking to Cher upon threat of being fired. Only David Brenner would talk to Cher and even he was afraid, according to Cher. But Toto ostensibly could weigh in on this if they would ever admit to working for Sonny & Cher.

So Cher started singing with her back to Sonny. This was around the time of their second Live album at the Sahara in Las Vegas. Cher notes that Sonny’s comments and stories during that show were designed to make her feel guilty. But she maintains that “he was the one who caused it to end.” Cher says she always thought he would come to realize she “was the one who was always there for him, who loved him” and that she knew “he loved me, just not enough to be faithful or kind.”

Sigh. Did he come to realize that?

Sonny says their lawyers did all the real fighting and he moved on thinking about how to survive without S&C.

Cher tells her Lucille Ball story and adds she used Lucy’s lawyer, Mickey Rudin. Sonny calls Paulette “our secretary” and accuses her of spreading rumors that Cher wanted to get back together with him. Cher has Paulette telling Cher “good for you.”

Sonny talks about a “bad” trip to Paris. He doesn’t mention Cher being there but Cher says around this time she went to Paris with Sonny. They stayed at the Raphael hotel and this is where Sonny’s was taking a bath and Cher is telling him modern girls won’t put up with his bullshit anymore. Cher talks about Sonny’s M.O. of gift-buying to placate the cheating. Sonny doesn’t mention any of this.

They go to the 1973 Golden Globes together to give the award for Best Musical or Comedy Series. Cher mentions a fox coat she wore and  multicolored skirt which she says is one of her favorite looks of all time.

Cher talks about Captain Spike Nesmyth, the captured pilot who was a Sonny & Cher fan and the POW/MIA bracelets they wore. Sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher talks about Chastity’s 4th birthday party. [There’s a magazine article depicting one of those birthday parties. I’ll try to dig it up.] Cher talks about going to the 1973 Academy Awards with Sonny in the gold dress to present the award for best song, “The Morning After” from The Poseidon Adventure.

Cher tells the therapist story and Sonny’s interloping. He doesn’t tell this story. Cher admits going to Joe DeCarlo again for friendship and advice. DeCarlo tells her about Sonny’s infidelities with all the womens, including hookers, waitresses and dancers, how he would book an extra room. Women started telling Cher these stories too, saying Sonny claimed he had an open marriage with Cher.

Cher tells the Jack Benny/Johnny Carson party story where she went with Sonny and got kicked out for laughing at Lucille Ball’s irreverent political commentary. Sonny doesn’t mention this story.

Cher talks about feeling liberated and independent and adventurous, dressing how she liked, learning how to shop for food and sign checks. Poignantly she talks about not having to worry about whether she was laughing too loud. The laughing-too-loud thing. This is always a sign of an uneven relationship and I’ve witnessed it with couples within my own family and in song.

One page 214 of the paperback Sonny talks about the Mother Nature skit and the tension on the set. They both talk about this skit. They both agree Cher ad-libed telling Sonny to go fuck himself. Sonny has nobody laughing and the director suggesting they try it again and Sonny saying “not without our lawyers.”

Cher talks about the skit on page 288 (hardback). She said it was a Chiffon Margarine commercial spoof and it was a few days after leaving Sonny. “What’s the secret of life?” Sonny asks. “Go fuck yourself,” Cher responds. She says Sonny collapsed in hysterics and she did too, along with Sonny’s comment “not without our lawyers.”

She says later Sonny called her act of leaving him in Vegas her “Nagasaki moment,” words he had printed for her on a gold dog tag. In disagreement with Sonny (who feels he should get an Oscar), Cher maintains they weren’t acting affection after they separated. “You can’t fake that shit,” she says.

But in any case, they both agreed they could easily be Sonny & Cher professionally. Cher says she liked working with him but didn’t know “how to read him” anymore. They say the exact same thing about each other.

By December of 1973, she was seeing David Geffen.

David Geffen Susses Out Cher Enterprises

Sonny says Cher turned suddenly into “an ice maiden” and was testy to the whole crew, less of a team player, less approachable and kept saying things like “I have to talk to David.” Sonny thought she meant Proto-Toto’s David Paich but it was this producer fellow. The irony of all ironies is this Sonny comment: “I wrote him off as a little wimpy guy.” (First off, it’s totally wrong and second it’s almost verbatim what the mayor of Palm Springs wrote off Sonny as in the 1980s at his first running for mayor). But Sonny quickly admits now he misjudged the man who would become “the most powerful, respected, wealthy and feared man in Hollywood…one of my great misjudgments.” That must be his second biggest misjudgments after thinking he could mistreat Cher for so long and keep a golden rainbow coming out of his ass. (Too much?)

Anyway, Cher says Sonny was uneasy when he found out about Geffen being as smart and powerful as Geffen was, “much more than himself.” Cher starts hanging out A-listers now: Bob Dylan and his wife, Jack Nicholson and Anjelica Houston, Warren Beatty and his girlfriend Julie Christy, Lou Adler.

Cher says it was Sonny who began to change. At work, things had been friendly but he stopped being friendly. Not his goofy fun self on the set. (Someone from the show needs to weigh in here.)

Sonny saw Geffen as in a conspiracy to get Cher a solo CBS show (and solo record and movie deals). Cher denies this. Sonny admits Cher denies this but he believes it anyway. Cher says that Sonny & Cher’s agent pitched the idea to them once at Geffen’s house but that they asked him to leave and never spoke to him again because he was ostensibly Sonny’s friend.

But Geffen was exploring her existing contracts. David and Cher then learned about Cher Enterprises and how Cher had zero votes, rights or stake in the company and was entitled to none of their income over the last ten years. Sonny owned 95% and their lawyer owned 5%. Cher was an employee and she received the noblese oblige of Sonny plus 2 weeks vacation. She also has no way to make money outside of this enterprise without Sonny’s permission.

(Just the name of it sounds demeaning and exploitive.)

Sonny talks about contracts. He says their TV contract had 3 more years. They had just finished year 2. Cher agrees with this. She says she was was locked into the contract for 2 more years. She says she had stayed during the bad times, Sonny’s movie dramas, the tax fiasco and was heartbroken and “so mad” and “thank God I had David.”

They each represent each other as cold. And Sonny, we have seen, has a tendency to project. Not that Cher was probably the best communicator there ever was at this time.

Sonny has Cher saying he and Geffen should get into a room together and whoever wins wins. Cher has Sonny refusing to renegotiate during her attempts to talk it over and being met with Sonny’s cold eyes and his smoking cigars. She had a child to raise, her sister and her mother to worry about, she says. She couldn’t work for nothing.

By January of 1974 Sonny says he is tired of faking a marriage and that Cher was refusing to work anymore “for our corporation Cher Enterprises.” (Our.) A few pages later he says “Cher and I were employed by Cher Enterprises. Cher and I were 50/50 partners. That is not only how the corporation was set up, that is the law of community property in California.”

Then a page later Sonny contradicts himself and says, “when Cher wanted out of her contractual obligations, when she wanted to split Cher Enterprises 50/50, I said no.”

Sonny has the gall to say about himself in the third person, “Cher decided to shoot Sonny in the back.”

Anyway, his reasoning was that he had managed them all those years for nothing. Plus, he feared Cher would step into all those deals he worked so hard to make, leaving him out (just as he was leaving Cher out now). That he did all the backstage work was not an insignificant or untrue claim. Cher admits he did all the heavy lifting behind the scenes. A fair deal would have been to pay him out for what would have been a manager’s salary.

But listen to me, trying to figure a way through for Sonny & Cher.

No biographer of Cher disputes that the contract was 95/5 Sonny and his lawyer. This doesn’t seem like a situation of Cher’s word against Sonny’s. But I suppose former biographers all could have taken Cher at her word and not researched the actual contract.

But here’s the thing: Cher received no money on the corporation’s earnings after its demise, leading us to believe…she did not, in fact, have an ownership stake in it. She finally got The Big House (no small thing but she says she had to buy it from Sonny) and a portion of the publishing royalties off Sonny & Cher songs, which Sonny will soon express disgruntlement about.

Cher says, “Sonny undoubtedly was responsible for making us who we were…[but] he could never have achieved that without my voice….He made me leave.” No Cher without Sonny.  But also, she says, no Sonny without Cher.

And it does sound like Sonny brought about the disruption he insists he feared the most. Sonny says their act had contracts out for 10-15 years (at Caesar’s Palace and on MCA). And, I think, it would have been amazing to see if they could have survived very bigly into the era of MTV. I doubt they would have. But in any case, Sonny says Cher told him she refused to honor the contracts.

Cher did call Fred Silverman and ask him not to pick up the TV show for another season, later insisting to him that she would never leave to do a solo show on an another network (there had been rumors), which is kind of an implicit negotiation to do a solo show on CBS. Cher told him she couldn’t work as an employee with no salary. This was around the time of their opening number “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” and Cher noting that his smile did not quite reach his eyes.

Sonny says, “I was not going to be the one to end it. But Cher refused to work anymore.” (For nothing, he forgets to say.) Two paragraphs later he says, “the week of the final episode of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, I filed for legal separation from Cher. I’d absorbed enough. I wanted it over.”

So much for “I wasn’t going to be the one.” Cher says he filed for divorce on 18 February but I think Sonny is right and that it was legal separation. Some editor should have looked that up as public record?

After the Friday taping, (Cher says it was in January 1974 and everyone was crying, her mom, sister and the crew, but Sonny doesn’t mention it), Sonny says they took separate jets to their final Houston Astrodome concert. Sonny says they earned $150,000 that day. He says they were the biggest, hottest act in the country at that time and they were playing what was the largest indoor venue in America.

The both agree the show was miserable, a rodeo venue that smelled like shit. Cher says it was a working rodeo with Elvis and the Jackson Five on the bill too. This is where her hair got caught in her dress’ zipper and Sonny had to cut it free with the scissors.  Sonny says Cher left the venue without a word to Sonny or their crew and he was left to say all the goodbyes and farethewells. Cher says all the people they worked with were loyal to Sonny.

Sonny says Cher filed for divorce on February 20 and claimed involuntary servitude. Sonny calls her a “characteristic victim” (says the complaining victim) Cher doesn’t dispute the divorce filing and says Sonny countersued for lost earnings and sued Geffen for interfering and asked for a temporary restraining order against him.

Cher says the news was “brutal” against her but Sonny continually complains that he was the one Cher successfully made out to be the villain. At the same time, Sonny was suing Cher for 14 million and Geffen for 13 million. Cher is just suing for divorce and contract freedom but Sonny keeps claiming for Cher it was all about the money.

The Big House, Part 2

Sonny also says Cher changed the locks on the house. But Sonny doesn’t mention that he kicked Cher out first and Cher no longer had the Malibu lease so she was homeless and moved in with David Geffen. (This was the era of Joni Mitchell being there all the time too while making Court and Spark).

Here is where Cher contradicts her own story when she says, “he never wanted that house. It was my dream house…” But back on page 268 (hardback) she says “Sonny wanted the house too.” And he did at least want to keep it from her. But by the time of his own memoir, he never liked that house. Cher was advised to return to the house and she says at that time she did change the locks and Sonny & Connie had to move into the St. Cloud house which “he made me sign over to him.”

In his diary, Sonny says “I have no good feelings left for Cher.” He finds it all confounding because “Cher is not a fighter” and he doesn’t believe Cher and Geffen are in love, that it’s a relationship of convenience and Cher has made him her pawn.” He sees Cher as, and I quote, “either a subservient Geisha girl or a killer.”

Wow.

Cher eventually sells The Big House fully furnished (a few months after Elijah’s birth) at a price “too low” and to a “carpet baron.” But she doesn’t say why she sells it.

Parenting Chas

Sonny says Chastity is confiding in him that she feels neglected because Cher has become a surrogate mom to Tatum O’Neal. Cher barely mentions Tatum O’Neal aside from one dismissive sentence. Cher says she and Sonny are civil when discussing Chas on the phone but Sonny says “Cher, in true passive-aggressive form, forced me to deal with Geffen in order to spend time with Chastity….So I wound up negotiating with Geffen over when I could and could not see my daughter.”

Cher says Chas was friendly with Geffen at first and then something changed and she took Sonny’s view of Geffen. Later,  Cher said, they both decided not to trash each other’s lovers to Chastity (if not in memoirs). Sonny said he applied for full custody, which Cher said “shattered me.” She had taken Chas to Hugh Hefner’s to play in the pool and Sonny used this as the reason. Cher says Hugh Hefner had known Chas her whole life. And it’s true, Sonny even booked Sonny & Cher on his Playboy show and had been pictured as a family at his house. So WTF Sonny.

In the end, Sonny got even less time from the judge than Cher has planned to give him. But they worked out a cordial deal between themselves.

In Chas’ three books, he has not weighed in extensively on this time period.

The Solo Shows, The Settlement & Gregg Allman

Now here is where reading Sonny’s memoir the first time I completely lost confidence in him as a reliable narrator. Sonny claims that in the summer of 1974 Cher announced The Cher Comedy Hour. No other Cher biographies mention this and neither does Cher in her memoir.

Sonny says Cher immediately went to work on a new series and it was “an instant smash,” that she was on the covers of People and Newsweek (it was Time, Cher wasn’t on the cover of Newsweek until the 1980s), and “women embraced her as a role model and everything I knew she was capable of began happening. I had no problem with Cher’s success.”

I actually believe this part. I think in some ways Sonny was Cher biggest fan and her worst friend and lover. And, as a big Cher fan (and a big Sonny & Cher fan), it makes me feel very torn about Sonny.

Sonny continues to lament that Cher cast him as the bad guy and that Cher basically “walked off with the franchise” and with it took away “his whole sense of identity.”

I believe that too.

But here’s where I lose sympathy with Sonny’s  chronology. He says his friends, manager, agent and just general people said ‘look at Cher’s successful solo show. There’s no reason why Sonny Bono cannot have a hit TV show, too.’ So in the summer of 1974 he says he presented a solo show to ABC with the pitch “if CBS was having success with the Cher variety hour…”

Sonny’s show debut was on August 14, 1974. He excerpts his diary to say “I have been knocked down more times…and now I’ll have to be judged all over again.” (No victim here.)

The big problem is that his show premiered and was canceled after 13 weeks in 1974 and Cher’s solo show didn’t even begin airing until February 1975 and this is because Sonny’s lawsuits kept Cher from working on anything new for almost the entirely of 1974. There was the Dark Lady album on MCA, her last album on that label, and some modeling work with Vogue.

So his whole long story is false. Cher’s show did not happen before his. How could he misremember that?

Of course Sonny’s solo show didn’t succeed, although it had the majority of the cast and crew of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour and the same formula. It was just missing that one magical thing that was maybe worth at least 50%, the star power.

Cher said it was “a copy of our show” and had rotating female guests to stand in for her. She expresses sympathy that the network put him in an impossible timeslot at ABC, on Sunday against Kojak and Disney and that she didn’t want him to fail. She says she was backstage with Chas for the first taping of the show.

Sonny says, “It didn’t work for a lot of reasons.” (Another example of Sonny knows; he wasn’t caught not knowing.) “It was the only game in town, so I played it.” (A far cry from ‘why can’t Sonny Bono have a hit TV show like the Cher show that’s only happening in my head.’)

Cher said while Sonny’s show was on the air, CBS announced her new show would air on 8 pm Sunday’s against Sonny’s show which Cher thought was cruel to them both. But his show “was cancelled before mine began.” Which is the truth. And how Sonny could have published a different story is mind-boggling since it was an easy thing for any editor or fact checker to look up in any library’s reference section. (I was doing that in the late 70s, so I know how easy that was.)

This also confirms a childhood memory that I’ve always had that I could never explain, that for a minute the public thought they might have to choose between watching a Sonny show or a Cher show.

Anyway, then Cher tells the Average White Band overdose story.  She said Sonny was furious about it. But he doesn’t mention it in his book.

Sonny laments that at the cancellation of his solo show he was “alone now” and “it was a bitch.” He says by now Cher’s show was in its second season and that the first had done well. (But it hadn’t even started yet.) Connie is gone by the end of 1974 and he’s very down about his situation, says his diary. But then he tells a story about going to David Geffen and Cher’s 1974 Christmas party where he meets Raquel Welch and they leave the party to go to a movie together. They saw The Towering Inferno and left early because they both hated it.

Let’s pause to consider Sonny’s comments about Connie. “I was trying to get Con off my back. The only thing she did well was fight.” He blames the relationship on rebounding. He admits he’s still friends with Cher, (which is why he was invited and went to her Christmas party).

He then tells about his PR man Jay Bernstein (who “was better at launching Farrah Fawcett’s career than mine”). He takes his variety show on the road with Richard Lewis because David Brenner wasn’t available. Later Tim Conway opens for him and they become friends. But the show didn’t do well. He says Cher kept bashing him in the press. He says he’s not the dictator Cher said he was but he never mentions the whole El Primo thing and his own 1960s diary entries about “keeping her in line.”

And interestingly, it’s here where Sonny brings up the big fight they had after going out to see The Dirty Dozen. This is the fight Cher mentions occurring in the 1960s. He said it was their worst and funniest fight. He says the fight was about whether Cher had a killer instinct. Sonny thought she did. Cher didn’t think so. This led to a shouting match where Sonny commanded Cher to let him out and she did and then drove off “leaving me to walk 10 miles home.” His guy Denis picked him up. That was “the extent of his irate machismo she found necessary to criticize.” Oy vey.

In Cher’s version she let him out at Dead Man’s Curve (on Sunset Boulevard) and he was upset that she liked the movie and he accused her of being “sexually frustrated.” Cher attributed the fight in hindsight to Sonny’s tendency to force a riff so he could leave and go out on a date with someone else.

Sonny contends Cher never complained (except he has spent pages telling us that she always complained, that ingrate). He blames her for not communicating her unhappiness to him, (after complaining that she was always telling him she was unhappy). He admitted he knew she hated Vegas. But still Sonny chalks it all up to Cher’s villainization and lies.

He then goes into his own victimization: his ego was shot, he felt sorry for himself. But then he meets the model Susie Coelho in Palm Springs via Jay Bernstein.

He then talks about Cher’s new “peculiar relationship” with Gregg Allman and how “nothing attracted Cher like a mean, tough and potentially dangerous rock and roller.” (Uh…well, Sonny…err…are you describing yourself here too inadvertently?)

Another funny thing is that pages back Sonny says, “Geffen was exactly the kind of man Cher was attracted to—a powerful guy who took charge of her life and made things happen. To me he was a ruthless cutthroat.”

So…yeah. That’s how Cher likes ’em: dangerous and powerful and Sonny. Yeesh.

Cher says she and David Geffen had stopped living together in January of 2025 although they were still dating when she met Gregg Allman at the Troubadour one night.

Sonny and Cher kind of do describe her relationship with Allman similarly though in its “ups and downs.”  Sonny says it was “red-hot” to “non-existent” and that’s not too far from how Cher defines it too. Sonny admits Allman is a “gifted blues man” but also a “coked-out druggie” and a “southern cracker.” He uses the same hyperbole he used about Geffen to say Allman was “one of rock’s most volatile personalities.”

Cher has always insisted Allman was very gentle and sweet. So they disagree about that. But Cher admits “I had never been with a bad boy and he had a reputation as one quintessential bad boy.”

Sonny says Allman was “bent on self-destruction” and mentions the suicide of Jenny Arness, (a topic Cher avoids in her memoir). Sonny reminds us that Cher is not a drinker and was “as antidrug as I was.” He makes fun of her use of the name  “Gregory” instead of Gregg. Sonny thinks there’s some connection between “Greggory” and Cher’s father, John Sarkisian, who Sonny claims Cher did not say goodbye to before he passed away even though her biological dad had “cleaned up by then” because she “never forgave him for deserting her in childhood.” (Cher seems pretty ambivalent about Sarkisian in her memoirs but maybe there’s some kind of psychological connection there.) Sonny says he was happy that the new relationship pushed aside his “nemesis David Geffen.” With Geffen gone, Sonny says the two of them started chatting again and Cher was always asking him for advice.

Cher agrees that she would reach out to Sonny in a crisis and he knew how to handle the press.

Cher says Sonny called her up to invite her to appear on The Tonight Show hosted by George Segal as a surprise guest and they fell into their usual banter. This appearance helped Cher’s bad press around her Gregg Allman troubles. Sonny also helped with Chastity when Cher needed to spend time with Allman in a Buffalo rehab.

“As far as I was concerned, Cher and I were equal partners.” Sonny says he still “resented she was able to go on with her career, capitalizing on our past success and continuing to make millions while I was slogging my way across dime-sized stages for gas money.” That is a great sentence but it’s also ridiculous because he had the chance to keep making money with Cher if he let her actually make money on the act. He says he was 50% responsible for her stardom.

So is he saying he should get 50% of all her earnings in perpetuity? Now he’s all 50% guy.

The divorce breakdown according to Sonny: Cher got the 54-room Big House (although Cher claims she had to buy him out for that). Sonny got the 32-room St. Cloud house, which he says he had been renting out until he needed to move back into it with Connie. Cher was allowed to void all existing Sonny & Cher contracts but in exchange had to pay Sonny $750,000 in cash or work it off performing as Sonny & Cher, a combination of which she did in 1976 and 1977. Also, “she received 50% of all publishing royalties from the songs I wrote, checks she still cashes,” Sonny says as if that’s incredible.

But to think about it, the only money Cher received from 10 years of performing as Sonny & Cher (aside from gifts Sonny gave her when they were together, houses they lived in and shopping she did with their money), was nothing. The company structure put her in debt for 750k (according to Sonny; Cher says it was higher). The only money she ever made for herself from ten years of working as Sonny & Cher was from the publishing royalty agreement in the divorce, the very same one Mary Bono tried unsuccessfully to null and void a few years ago by arguing that a divorce agreement should die with the death of the spouse. Cher ended up having to sue for unpaid royalties (so at some point she stopped cashing those checks) and it’s unclear whether that was before or after Sonny died. He had no will and his estate was divided up between Mary Bono and his four children.

Here are two articles on the Mary Bono lawsuit:

The divorce was finalized on 26 June 1974 and 4 days later she marries Gregg Allman. From Cher we find out this was because she was pregnant but Sonny doesn’t know that yet. Sonny says her marriage and filing for divorce 9 days later was a “public joke.” Sonny says she confided to him in tears that Allman was mostly upset that she worked so much and was “no fun” and “never there.” This tells us more about the situation than we see in Cher’s memoir which kind of hedges around their issues.

Interestingly both Susie Coelho and Gregg Allman get not-nearly the ink you would expect they would as the next Sspouses to follow Sonny and Cher.

Sonny said Allman and Cher would come over and use his pool, which was more private than hers and that Cher would suntan there nude, which shocked Sonny. Sonny says, “Cher had become very liberal.” But then he admits he doesn’t really know her anymore and gets more information about her from People Magazine.

Sonny says Cher’s show took a dive in the ratings. Cher agrees with this and explains what happened. In the beginning Cher was a bigger hit than the Comedy Hour, according to Cher. The premiere had 21 million viewers and the show finally beat out The Wonderful World of Disney, which CBS had been trying and failing to do. But the show also had 2 censors that the Comedy Hour didn’t have, which made work difficult. But during the summer break, CBS played Joey & Dad in her timeslot and it bombed. So when she came back, her ratings fell from 23.3 to 7 and suddenly she was competing with The Six Million Dollar Man (which Sonny did a guest appearance on.) Also, Cher admits, David Geffen had left in aggravation over her relationship with Gregg Allman and without his contacts, they couldn’t get the A-list music acts anymore. Plus doing a show solo was too much.

Reuniting as Sonny & Cher

Sonny says Cher pitched a reboot of the Sonny & Cher show and he was incredulous but that Cher and Denis talked and worked things out. Sonny seems like he did it for opportunist reasons. He said Primtetime Network TV was “the kind of exposure I needed.” He said neither of them had made it solo (except Cher had kinda made it solo and would go on to make it solo, she just hit the first bump in the road). He said their friendship was like American and Soviet spies sitting on a beach; they could kill each other but they liked each other.”

Cher agrees that she asked Sonny back and he “instantly” said yes. She said Sonny negotiated with CBS the new deal and that it allowed Cher to repay Sonny for those cancelled contracts by way of the new show plus “road gigs.” He also had to square the pregnancy situation with CBS but Cher admits that Allman was “otherwise out of my life” at that time. Later, during show opening dialogues, they would mention him from time to time (as if he was backstage). Allman was at that time upset by the show’s press and that Cher was again working with Sonny. He told her he felt “heartbroken” and “made a fool of.”

Sonny talks about the the CBS press conference which he says occurred at Television City. Cher says it was the Beverly Wilshire.(It happened on 4 December 1975).

The new show premiered on 1 February 1976. Cher said it was one of the most watched programs in TV history at that time, up there with Who Shot J.R. (I remember hearing that statistic in other bios too but unfortunately there is not much online about this fact of TV history.) Cher says she thought the show was sharper and more relevant. They lost the mother-in-law jokes. She’s right. The second show is better. She said Sonny persuaded Harold Battiste into becoming their musical director. Cher said there was a lot of discussion about what songs they should sing as divorced people.

During the second show, Sonny said they got along better and he was sympathetic about Cher’s problems with Allman. He said their ratings were in the 20s but then CBS switched their time slot, which is what led to lower ratings and cancellation of the show. “Both Cher and I wanted to continue with the show.”

Cher agrees with this and talks about the last episode with a retrospective of 1960s Sonny & Cher singing “Baby Don’t Go,” which Sonny said he we wrote for her. Cher says they were on the road when they heard CBS wasn’t renewing the show. During the tour Cher said Sonny took pictures of Elijah learning to crawl down hotel hallways (just like Chas). Cher used a lot of Sonny’s photos and footage of Chas and Elijah on her first solo tour for Take Me Home and her Vegas/Monte Carlo shows. She has always always maintained Sonny was a good father and very good to Elijah.

Sonny says the show cancellation freed them to do concerts in huge arenas but Cher hated the road and got bored and sick, depressed and “insular.” She missed Elijah and at the halfway mark called off the rest of the tour and paid Sonny cash. And that was the end of Sonny & Cher, according to Sonny. Cher agrees she cut the tour short and paid her debts from her own pocket. She says she ended up paying him 1.4 million in cash, not $750,000.

Cher says after the tour, Sonny moved to Palm Springs where he would host BBQs and Cher would go sometimes with Chas. Sonny never ate, Cher said, just tasted things. Cher says he went through girlfriends and cheated on all of them. After one breakup he came to Cher tearful and gave her an apology in her kitchen. Sonny and this woman got back together, Cher says, and married and Chas was their bridesmaid. Cher calls the woman “Sarah” which, interestingly, is the name of one of Sonny’s girlfriends on The Love Boat (it’s that Deacon Dark episode where his girlfriend is deaf and he sings a sweet song to her at the end.) But Sonny’s next wife was named Susie.

Sonny says Cher was supportive Susie in Sonny’s life and he blames her for that, too, saying that “given her track record” he shouldn’t’ have listened. He says Susie and him were with each other for the wrong reasons and he was just lonely. (I’ve read Coelho’s book; she has nothing but good things to say about Sonny in it.)

Sonny comments on Cher’s albums around that time, Cherished (“a flop”) and Allman and Woman, Two the Hard Way (failed), and he dismisses her attempt to suppress her name on the Allman album cover as “something wrong” because she “hates to share the spotlight.” (Why would she even do the duet album then?)  Those two albums were probably the nadir of Cher’s 1970s output by they are the only post-breakup Cher albums he mentions: not Half Breed or Dark Lady (both which earned #1 hits), Stars or Take Me Home (which had another top 10 hit).  We’ll see later if he has anything to say about her 1980s comeback records.

Cher says it was her idea to drop her name because she wanted people to focus on the music and not her life in the tabloids.

Sonny says they became neighbors when Cher purchased the “Moorish mansion” (the Egyptian house) on Benedict Canyon Drive. Cher and Susie were friends and Cher would again sunbathe at their pool (nude again). It was here where Sonny first saw Cher’s large butt tattoo of the butterfly. He attributed that again to Cher trying to generate shock value and create controversy so she could then tell critics to “stick it.” Which, Sonny says in a moment of honesty, was “a trick she learned from me and I learned it from Phil Spector.”

Cher talks about going on tour with Allman in Japan and Europe but after he had a relapse she left the tour to return home to do final shows with Sonny in Hawaii. There Sonny had invited Bill Hamm back to the band to “mess with me,” Cher says. But they ended up reconnecting. It was here the Sonny & Cher act ends in Cher’s story. Of her experience with Allman Cher says she has to “learn things the hard way.”

Sonny talks about Chas’ school problems and finding out she was grades behind and this triggers his feelings of neglect (and particularly his neglect of Christy). But he doesn’t yet mention the dyslexic diagnosis.

In Cher’s version of the story, the principal called her to talk about Chas’ emotional problems and bad grades. Cher was shocked because Chas was always “level headed and responsible.” A teacher took Cher aside and told her to get Chas tested for a learning disability and they discovered Chas had dyslexia. Cher then suddenly understood her own learning disability.

And that’s the end of Sonny & Cher in the 1970s in both of their memoirs. Neither of them mention the Mike Douglas Show reunion they did in 1979, but there are two more public reunions ahead: Cher at the opening of Sonny’s La Cienega Italian restaurant Bono and their iconic reunion on Late Night with David Letterman in the fall of 1987. Sonny will still be with Susie Coelho when his restaurant opens but that relationship will end and he will meet 22-year-old college student and restaurant customer Mary Whitaker there. Those two had a 26-year age difference but can you remember anybody ever talking about that? No. Because they didn’t.

I forgot how much Sonny villainizes himself, unintentionally, in his book. Cher is the “killer” and he is the perpetual victim, taking very little responsibility for what he does. But, it all kind of came to roost for him anyway, as it often does. If he had been fun to work with (and if you read Murray Langston’s testimony, maybe only Cher thought he was fun to work with) then he would have continued to work in Hollywood, despite his divorce from Cher. Cher said extensive CBS audience research showed the public liked him. I don’t think it was evident that Cher’s comments to the press were the biggest issue for Sonny and his show-business career. Two record labels requested he stop producing Cher and he didn’t go on to become a TV or movie mogul despite all those meetings. By Sonny’s own admission, Cher wasn’t involved with any of that so how could she have ruined it?

That said, Sonny did a lot of brilliant things for Sonny & Cher and he did turn a raw, anxiety-ridden teenager into a glamourous superstar with an iconic career trajectory. And that’s not chump change either.

This level of detailed Sonny & Cher obsessing was immensely pleasurable. My little 7-yeard old self can die happy now.

Cher Dollphoria

So as a consequence of moving and downsizing my parents in January, I inherited my mother’s New Mexico Christmas tree resplendent with southwestern ornaments. As a consequence of this I had to clean out some space in my garage (and downsize a few things myself) which led me to the project of cataloging all the outfits for my Cher (Doll) Christmas tree, particularly so that I wouldn’t buy an outfit twice in the future by accident (which I already did with Stepping Out).

So while I was making a handwritten list of outfits in the box, I decided to go ahead and make an Excel spreadsheet organizing them, and add outfits I didn’t have, discover which ones were legit. At the same time, I came across an outfit called Liberty Belle (what looked like a very lovely 1977 bicentennial Colonial American costume) from a series called the Boutique Collection. I had no idea really what that was even though I’ve seen it before in passing on eBay.

Soon, I fell into a two-week rabbit hole learning copious amounts of information about the Cher doll outfits. There was the aforementioned Boutique Collection and also the Designer Collections (in two box colors), a Montgomery Ward collection, blue boxes, purple boxes, green boxes, black boxes, orange boxes, pink boxes. And  WTF!?

I had questions, too. But nobody on Facebook, where Cher doll fans seemed to live, seemed to still be on Facebook anymore so my questions hit dead ends there. Luckily, the Cher doll outfit bible, Sandra Bryan’s book Cher Doll & Her Celebrity Friendsdid help fill in some of the gaps.

The Dolls

Dolls on Cher Scholar: I’ve added a few new pictures and some links to fan experiences with Cher dolls, including a very funny video of every appearance the Cher doll made on Will and Grace (including the real Cher’s first appearance on the show and I think that’s makeup artist Kevin Aucoin sitting in Cher’s book booth).

The Outfits

The Doll’s Closet: This section has exploded! What sorry little cursory efforts I had made before!

There are new separate pages for the blue, green, purple, black and white box collections, images from the front and back of all those outfit boxes, ads for the series, better images of the iconic foldout brochure and I’ve added information about the accessory toys related to the outfits.

I also discovered some egregious information about how the outfits and toys were recycled after Cher lost cultural stock in the late 1970s (shocking!) and there’s an expanded section with links and better pictures about those outfits that have Big-Cher counterparts from her television shows.

I also found a video of a fan playing with outfits and Cher’s dressing room playset.

Other Cher Toys

Toys on Cher Scholar: It was time to clean up this page, to get better images for toys and see if new toys have shown up online. I’ve collected some early prototype images from Mego sales catalogs.

I also found this video of a real hairdresser playing with Cher Makeup Center.

New Paper Dolls!

While I was doing all that, I found out there’s a new Cher paper doll book coming out, Style Icons: Cher: A dress-up paper doll book by Elizabeth Weitzman and illustrations by UK artist Helen Green.

It’s about time we get a paper doll book for Cher. Growing up, my mother loved to tell me she didn’t have many real dolls as a kid and she loved styling her paper dolls. She was very disappointed when I didn’t like paper dolls as well (at all) and preferred my 3-dimensional Barbies. (Trying to make-believe paper-doll sex was very unsatisfying.)

The book’s summary calls Cher’s outfits “dazzling, fearless fashion…unapologetic glamour and trailblazing style” which includes “Mackie showstoppers of the 1970s….wild, punk inspired MTV moments…red-carpet reinventions…looks that pushed boundaries and redefined state and red carpet fashion.”

All that with only “ten of her most unforgettable looks,” 48 pages.

Release date: March 31, 1926

 

Internet Cher Things (All the Things)

The big news from the last week was Cher’s appearance on 30 August 2025 to help her friend Cyndi Lauper finish out her farewell tour at the Hollywood Bowl. Unbeknownst to me, Lauper’s closing song for this tour, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun,” was paired with a set inspired by one of her favorite artists (and mine), Yayoi Kusama.

And not in a million years would I have been able to even drum up a fantasy of a Cher/Kusama mashup. But there it was. And the news went nuts. A sampling:

Oh and Joni Mitchell was also there (!) and SZA, John Legend, Trombone Shorty and Jake Wesley Rogers.

Clips are going up and being taken down as we speak. Apparently the show is being turned into a TV special so stay tuned on that. Fans who were there say Cher said “I’ll see you soon” which they took to mean a new tour. But it could mean anything.

Anyway, I thought it would be a good time to do a news rollup of articles (old and current) I’ve come across over the last few years that have been stuck languishing in my phone’s browser tabs. I had over 200 tabs open as a kind of to-be-read-later list.  Now that I’ve culled out all the Cher articles and dead links (pages and even whole websites now gone), I’m down to 124.

Sigh. I categorized them.

Movies

Let’s start with this young YouTube film aficionado who does video reviews, in Cher’s case her whole oeuvre. Nora! has watched every Cher movie and talked about the experience, all of which is interesting. I mean just hearing how young Cher fans see Cher movies differently than we did in the theater. Also, Nora has interesting thoughts about even movies we don’t enjoy, like Faithful. Spoiler alert: she liked it. I equate this to my thoughts about the movie Suspect. Sometimes there’s a fan out there who sees something nobody else does.

Nora astutely notices (and why haven’t we?) how Good Times is basically Sonny’s movie with Cher appearing only as a minor character. (To answer her befuddlement about this: it’s because he pretty much wrote the thing.) Nora calls out Chastity for having a “nothing story” and “no real plot,” that it’s just basically “Cher walking around and pontificating” which pretty much sums up that movie. But she gives those films redeeming points for Cher fashion.

Nora comments on what an uphill climb it must have been for a pop icon to become a serious actress because “society doesn’t let women be complex and multi-faceted.” Truth.

She finds a “weird looming element of racism that is never explained” in Silkwood. I completely missed this (and can’t even locate it in memory) and so I will watch it again to see what I can see. She calls out Silkwood’s “extreme de-glamming effort” on Cher. She focuses on “the emotional stuff” in Cher’s performances and quotes the L.A. Times in noting Cher’s ability to reveal depths underneath. This is helpful for me when trying to figure out how to write about Cher in her movies, not being a film critic and all.

It’s interesting to see how a younger person scoffs at the whole Cher, Sarandon, Pfeiffer love-lines plot in The Witches of Eastwick (“how three queens fall for Nicholson”) . As Gen-X kids we did not do this. We remembered Jack Nicholson as a sexy younger man and I guess we just started to suspend belief as he aged. Huh. Likewise, the character played by Dennis Quaid in Suspect annoyed her in ways that were novel to me. His audacity. We focused on the improbable illegality of his behavior, but not his audacity with Cher.

It’s great to hear Nora enthuse about Cher’s “career-defining role” in Moonstruck and the balance she struck between comedy and emotion. She calls Cher’s ability to continue with parts after the age of 40 in the 1980s an “astonishing accomplishment.” She expresses surprise at the good reviews of Mermaids because it “seems like the kind of movie male critics love to hate on.” This I think speaks more to the increasingly misogynist manosphere Nora grew up around as opposed to male critics writing in the early 1990s. Asshole Male wasn’t such an institutionalized thing back then. (As Nora says earlier, “Lord, give me strength.”) She rightly notes the shifts in roles Cher gets after Mermaids, how Cher begins to play her own persona. And Nora is right to call the plot of Tea with Mussolini meandering but as a kind of memoir, maybe that was unavoidable. She ends the video in talking about Cher’s unique sense of agency in show business.

Nora also did some great research on Cher’s press at the time of her movie releases and I tracked down some of the articles she sourced and quotes from:

  1. Let the Oscar Sweepstakes Begin! Our Fearless Forecasters Predict Who Will Will, Say Who Really Should (Washington Post, 9 April 1988) – I’ve always said Cher is not as popular in Los Angeles (her hometown) as she is in New York. I take that knowledge just from having lived in both places and attended multiple Cher concerts in both places at different venues (including the Broadway musical). The difference in enthusiasm is palpable, my favorite NYC overheard quote being “That Cher! I just love her!” L.A. is, ironically, too snobby for Cher. This article explains, for one, how the best movies rarely win Oscars. It’s a great overview of how the Oscars really work behind the scenes. It also articulates why Cher always gets snubbed by L.A. (and double the irony, she didn’t this particular year): “But, again, the overwhelming grass-roots response to “Moonstruck” — and Cher’s own fairly heavy media barrage — has all but eclipsed the early positive feeling for Hunter. Also, with “The Witches of Eastwick,” “Suspect” and “Moonstruck,” this is thought to be Cher’s year — especially since she was snubbed in 1985 (remember the Spider Woman dress?), when she was left off the list for Mask. Speaking of that dress, the only possible fly in the ointment here is that Hollywood is not really crazy about Cher. Yes, they think she has talent (finally). Yes, they respect her drive and determination to break through as an actress. But the sentiment is that she is too independent, too outspoken, too, well, tacky. They’d much rather give the award to Meryl Streep or Glenn Close, because even if they’re playing bums or psychos, those perpetual Oscar-baiters still have class, taste and legitimate acting credentials — all the things that appeal to Oscar’s sense of snobbery. And all things that Cher gloriously lacks.” And all which seems very rock and roll to me but oh wait…she’s usually snubbed there too.
  2. The Cher Conundrum: The Oscar Winner/Pop Diva/Exercise Goddess Talks About Acting, Relationships, Being Fortysomething and Other Serious Stuff” (Los Angeles Times, 3 November 1991) – This is a great article to follow the preceding because it further underscores how Cher is treated in L.A. by reporters who are just not that impressed. This is a particularly tough interview that pushes back on almost everything Cher says particularly about why she isn’t making more movies, and the conclusion of the piece seems to be that it’s due to a perfect storm between parts Cher turned down, difficulty with a few directors (Mask, Suspect and Mermaids), the infomercials (which historically have taken the most heat on this issue), and the fact that Cher just didn’t love the process of making movies. The interview then gets into comments about difficulties Cher was having with her mother (Georgia situations which occasionally used to show up in interviews but surprisingly were all but missing from the memoir last year). The article also misspells the name Sonny. Oy.
  3. “Cher: ‘Women have always been sex objects and always will be’” (The Guardian, 7 November 2013) – I struggled on whether to put this in movies or music because it talks about the Closer to the Truth album and the legacy of “Believe” but also about the movie Burlesque. And it even occurred to me to consider what she was wearing for the interview: sweats or jeans (movie interview) or leather jacket, fishnets, tiny skirt and biker boots (music interview). But that felt reductive. And the comments about Burlesque were what Nora was referring to in her review.
    More movie articles from my phone:
  4. 10 Powerful Movie Quotes That Deserve More Recognition” (Screen Rant, 17 August 2025) – and the quote discussed is “Everything Is Temporary. That Don’t Excuse Nothin’.”
  5. The best singers turned actors of all time” (The Week, date unknown) – The article doesn’t really say why. Just that these people have skills in both areas. And that this is rare.
  6. Cher rejected Eric Roth’s biopic script” (Film Stories, 1 March 2024) – More news than scholarship but hey, it was hanging out in my phone. All I will add is that there are music stars and there are film stars and then there are films about music and film stars.
  7. 7 Things You Didn’t Know About ‘Mask,’ Cher’s 1985 Breakthrough Film” (Remind, The Home of Nostalgia, 8 March 2025) – and yeah there were some things in the article I did not know.
  8. Guardian writers on their ultimate feelgood movies” (The Guardian, 22 July 2025) – In a list that begins with Big Night, Rushmore and Amélie, I assumed Cher’s title would be Moonstruck would be the listed movie and was painfully wrong on that assumption. Here’s the link to the article’s full review of Burlesque by Guy Lodge where he agrees was a “less-than-seminal 2010 musical…a film with precisely zero complexities to unparcel, that exerts a strangely forceful hold on me just the same.” Also of note is the inclusion in this list of The Towering Inferno, which sticks in my mind because in Sonny’s book he talks about taking Raquel Welch to that movie on a date (after they met at a Christmas party hosted by Cher) and that they both agreed to leave early because they thought it was a terrible movie.
  9. While I was putting this together, I found another good one: “Cher movies: 15 greatest films ranked worst to best” (Gold Derby, 17 May 2025) – they get the top four right.

Music

  1. Dark Lady by Cher Dollmation (2022) – very cool dollcreation.
  2. Texas judge blocks Ten Commandments in public schools with epic ruling that quotes Sonny & Cher, Kurt Vonnegut and Billy Graham” (The Independent, 20 August 2025) – Wow.
  3. Top 10 Sonny & Cher Songs” (Classic Rock History, 2020) – top 4 are good. “It’s the Little Things” should be higher. A few factual errors.
  4. Top 10 Cher Songs of All Time” (Classic Rock History, 2025) – Odd list. I don’t even think #10 is Cher’s best Diane Warren Cher song (the subject matter was already handled better by Elvis Costello, for one). “Take Me Home” at the top but no “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” or “Bang Bang”? Tsk tsk.
  5. Cher’s 30 Greatest Songs–Ranked!” (The Guardian, 18 October 2018) – a good interesting list that goes through all the years and all the things and puts “Gypsies” up on top.
  6. Cher’s 10 greatest songs ever, ranked” (Smooth Radio, 20 May  2025) – while I was compiling this list I found another song list.
  7. The 150 Greatest Albums Made by Women, Shocking Omissions: The Resilient Reinvention of ‘Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves” (NPR, 20 September 2017) – the album “was written to showcase and cultivate her signature contralto and the title track became her first No. 1 hit on Billboard Hot 100” (as a solo artist). “It even scored her a Grammy nomination for Best Pop Vocal Performance” (losing to Carol King’s Tapestry). The song “presented a darker, more powerful Cher, whose strength lies in her embodiment of the character.” Even Cher’s dislike of the song does not deter this writer (Désiré Moses), who said, “that’s exactly the sentiment that makes Cher, well, Cher.” Right! We’re under no obligation to agree.
  8. It Has Stood the Test of Time: 1971, The Greatest Year in Music” (The Guardian, 22 May 2021) – Cher’s album or song is not in this article but it’s a good one to read after #7 above because it was one of those unforgettable songs of 1971.
  9. In Praise of Cher, the Self-Proclaimed Betty White of Rock and Roll” (Salon, 29 May 2021) – This one is by Annie Zaleski, the same rock journalist who did the write up for Cher’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee program essay and this year’s picture bio, I Got You Babe, A Celebration of Cher (which I still need to blog about). Great writing as always, “Although Cher is often viewed through the lens of a comeback narrative — among other things, she had to extricate herself from a bad business relationship with her late ex-husband, Sonny Bono, as well as climb back from solo career nadirs — this has softened into her being positioned as a beacon of resiliency.”
  10. The Number Ones: Cher’s ‘Believe’” (Sterogum, 4 July 2022) – “Less than a minute into her improbable comeback smash, Cher shatters. The moment happens when she sings the line ‘I can’t break through.’ On the word “can’t,” Cher’s voice atomizes, breaking into a billion tiny little shards, before coming back together. She sounds like a glitching-out robot, or like a kid singing into a fan. All throughout ‘Believe,’ her first #1 hit in a quarter-century, it keeps happening. Cher’s voice falls to pieces, and then it resolves.”
  11. Cher’s secret pop history: The massive hits pop icon sang backing vocals on” (Gold Radio, 13 August 2025)
  12. Cher Sells Range of Music Assets to Irving Azoff’s Iconic Artists Group” (Music Business Worldwide. 2 August 2023) – “Cher is the fifth-ranked female artist with the most Billboard US Hot 100 charted singles….Cher is one of the world’s best-selling music artists. Launching her career in the 1960s as part of Sonny & Cher, the superstar made unprecedented strides in what had long been a male-dominated industry. Cher has sold more than 100 million records. Her three-year 325-show world Farewell Tour from 2003 to 2005 played to more than three million fans and became the most successful tour ever by any female artist.”
  13. Cher On Making Her First Holiday Record” (Billboard, 6 October 2023)
  14. Cher Talks New Christmas Album” (People, 11 October 2023)
  15. Cher, 77, on her six-decade career: ‘I’m some sort of freak’” (New York Post, 20 October 2023) – NYC loves Cher. “…when it comes to taking on Mariah Carey for Christmas queendom: ‘I’m not gonna take over that spot,’ she said. ‘I’m kind of out of my league there.'”
  16. Cher’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Performance Interrupted” (Entertainment Weekly, 23 November 2023)
  17. Cher Scores No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart in Seventh Decade” (Billboard, 30 November 2023) – This article is in my phone because I sent it to my brother last week after my sister-in-law sent me a Cher drawing from the Canfield Ohio Fair and I asked what the art category was and my brother said “has-beens.”
  18. Cher’s Christmas Album Tops the Charts” (NPR, 4 December 2023)
  19. Cher is Heading to the Metaverse with ‘Christmas’ Roblox Event” (Billboard, 8 December 2023)
  20. 25 Years Ago, Cher Released a Song That Would Change the Sound of Pop Music” (NPR, 19 October 2023)
  21. Should Cher Have Cancelled Her own ‘Offensive’ Song?” (The Telegraph, 5 September 2024)
  22. Rock Hall Inductee Exhibit: From Cher’s glamour to Frampton’s guitar” (Axios Cleveland, 11 October 2024)
  23. Cher facts: Songs, age, films, husbands and children of the Goddess of Pop” (Gold Radio, 23 October 2024)
  24. Miley Cyrus’ Bright, Effervescent Cover of Cher’s “Believe” Is Vocal Nirvana” (NBC, 21 October 2024)
  25. Decades Before Kellyoke, Cher Covered a Dazzling Range of Songs on Her Weekly Show” (Billboard, 30 September 2024)
  26. Cher Returns Half Of Her Career Hits To The Same Billboard Chart” (Forbes, 27 November 2024)
  27. The One Song Cher Couldn’t Live Without” (Far Out, 18 January 2025)
  28. I’m Not a Cher Fan:  why Cher desperately wanted to be like the Eagles” (Far Out, 9 February 2025)
  29. My own Cher interview with Robrt Pela on KJZZ (NPR Phoenix) – of course I kept this in my phone.

Concerts & Stage

  1. Michael Keaton’s disastrous stint as Cher’s opening act: ‘It was death‘” (Far Out, 10 November 2024) – this was interesting.
  2. Cher and share alike: three actors star as the singer in musical that turns back time” (The Guardian, 20 April 2022) – review of the UK musical…still in my phone. There’s an interesting video in the article about the creative team for the show.

Style and Beauty

  1. Cher at Home: The Goddess of Pop’s Domestic Life in 22 Photos” (Architectural Digest, 15 August 2025) – I had this bookmarked twice. The first version of the article was only 15 photos apparently.
  2. Inside Cher’s Stunning Malibu Mansion” (Show Biz Cheat Sheet, 5 January 2022) – “Every day when I wake up and look out my bedroom window I’m never not amazed.”
  3. Sonny & Cher’s former home rentable from Airbnb for allegedly around $600 a night.
  4. Cher’s 31 Most Iconic Looks of the ’70s, From Dazzling Dresses to Bold Bodysuits” (InStyle, 26 June 2025) – There’s a 1960s outfit in the list and at least one from the 1980s. Sigh.
  5. Cher’s 10 Best Looks of All Time, Hand-Picked by Bob Mackie” (Variety, 20 May 2021) – Too bad we didn’t see that unicorn outfit. And interesting he puts in the duct tape TBT-fit in his list considering…
  6. Designer Bob Mackie Didn’t Want Anyone to Know He ‘Had Anything to Do’ With Cher’s Iconic Bodysuit” (US Weekly, 26 January 2025)
  7. Cher and Bob Mackie on Over 60 Years of Iconic Looks” (Harper’s Bazaar, 11 October 2024) –  “For the past six decades, Cher has been living in our collective minds rent-free.”
  8. Turn Back Time Like Cher with Her 5 Beauty Secrets” (Women’s Health, 26 June 2021) – There’s a sign-in wall. I never did see the five secrets.
  9. Cher’s Take on The French Manicure Features a Glitzy Detail” (Marie Claire, 25 October 2023)
  10. 77-Year-Old Cher Has Eaten Like a Blue Zoner for 30 Years. Is That Her Secret?” (VegNews, 26 September 2023)
  11. Bryan Adams photographs Cher, Grimes and Iggy Pop for Pirelli calendar” (The Guardian, 5 August 2021) – Remember that happened??
  12. Cher is Inducted Into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Leather Platforms at the 2024 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony” (Yahoo! Entertainment, 19 October 2024) – There were plenty of seen-in-that-outfit news stories in the last few years, but this is the only one I left in my phone.
  13. Cara Delevingne, Cher and Jodie Turner-Smith Celebrate Burberry Flagship Reopening” (Variety, 23 October 2024)

Food

  1. Cher’s Mom’s Cheesecake Is Impressively Easy” (Parade, 2 December 2023) – but this review links to a non-existent Allrecipes page. Even allrecipe’s own article about it has vanished. But another site has archived it so…. I’ll be blogging about this later after I make it for the Cher food page. Another mention I just found, “The Heartwarming Story Behind Cher’s Favorite Cheesecake Recipe” (Mashed, 26 November 2023)

News & Tabloid 

  1. Cher Mourns Ex Husband Gregg Allman” (Rolling Stone. 27 May 2017) – Yup. still open in my phone.
  2. Queen Elizabeth Death: Cher Appears to Refer to the Queen as a Cow” (All over the press, 9 September 2022) – Well, they are little emojis and hard to see clearly for the elderly. I’m sure there is someone in the colonial world who was calling the Queen a cow; it just wasn’t Cher. Cher’s rebuttal.
  3. Cher Posts Thirsty New Pic of New 30-year-old Boyfriend and…whoa” (Queerty, 24 November 2022)
  4. Cher Relists Iconic Malibu Mansion with a $10 Million Price Cut for $75 Million” (People, 4 April 2023), A.D. version (21 March 2023) – Why does this house keep going on and off the market?
  5. Cher Opens Up About Her New Cherlato Business: ‘It Was A Labor Of Love’ “- Remember Cherlato, the new perfume(s), Sanctuary, Aquasentials? You gotta take advantage of these Cher ventures when they come up because they disappear fast. (I have a few regrets.)
  6. Cher “Only” Averaged $6 Million Per Year Throughout Her Career, But It All Adds Up” (The Things, 24 September 2023) – Only? wtf.
  7. Celebrities Partying in the ’70s: Photos” (Esquire, 10 January 2023) – I’m sorry, any list of 1970s debauchery that excludes a photo of Margaux Hemingway (particularly at Studio 54) just isn’t worth its margarita salt. This exact photo below was indelibly etched into my childhood imagination forever as illustrating precisely what 1970s debauchery was…the drink between the legs, the facial expression…
    Whenever I try to pose debauchery, as unconvincing as it is (and this is one of my favorite Mary Tyler Moore Show quotes that I can relate to: “I might not have been around, but I’ve been nearby“), this is the pose I attempt.
  8. Cher hired men to kidnap troubled son Elijah Blue Allman from NY hotel as he tried to save marriage” (New York Post, 26 September 2023) – Only the family knows about all the things in this story but Cher being vindicated this summer is not so happy news.
  9. Cher’s son Elijah Blue Allman responds to conservatorship filing: ‘I am well, and able’” (NBC Los Angeles, 29 December 2023)
  10. See Photos of Cher with Her Sons Chaz Bono and Elijah Blue Allman Through the Years” (People, 28 December 2023) – Some sites tried to focus on the positive aspects in their capitalizing on that story.
  11. Cher Says She’s Living ‘in the Moment’ with Boyfriend: ‘It’s Never Too Late’ to Find Love” (People, 11 October 2023)
  12. While looking for the link above, I found this one: “Cher Says Younger Boyfriend Alexander ‘A.E.’ Edwards Doesn’t Get ‘Most of My References’” (People, 24 October 2023)
  13. Cher, Who Turns 78 Today, Says She’ll Celebrate By “Putting My Pillow Over My Head and Screaming”” (Marie Claire, 20 May 2024)
  14. Kevin Costner Sits Next to Cher at SNL50 After His Epic Reaction to Her Recent Performance at Radio City Music Hall” (People, 16 February 2025) – Kevin Costner sits next to Cher…and it’s news.

Two takeaways here. One, there are many more news stories out there than any one mere Cher scholar could keep up with.

And two, the categories of this list are a good study itself in demarking the areas of Cher’s cultural influence (in real time surfing the Internet). And the spread of articles across each category is telling in where the most interest seems to rest.

Although I would correct that in saying the articles in the movie section are the most laudatory, so even though that category is small in number the section is still pretty packed with cultural value.

The John Wilson Animations

So my friend Sherry texted me a Cher question a week or so ago. Sherry is a writer and editor for tech and finance research firms in the New York City area. She is also one of the writers I met at Sarah Lawrence back in the 1990s and she published a great book of poetry, The Palace of Ashes and is also an enthusiast of the great American Southwest landscapes and Indian Nation jewelry and I’ve gotten to know her better during her yearly trips out to that area.

Anyway, her question led me down a rabbit hole (hours and hours of tunnels in fact). So here’s here question:

“I can remember watching at least two animated cartoon music videos on network TV shows when I was a kid. One was for “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown,” the other for “Sweet Gypsy Rose.” The question is did I see them both on the Sonny & Cher Show? Or just one and the other on the Tony Orlando & Dawn show? Our family watched both. Since music videos on TV weren’t a thing, these were memorable. And I was a kid, so CARTOONS!”

So the “Sweet Gypsy Rose” (a Tony Orlando and Dawn hit) part was extremely frustrating research because I could clearly remember seeing the Wilson animation as sung  by Sonny’s solo but the clip was nowhere to be found by itself on YouTube, nor could I find it in any online episode guides or even my own episode guides! Finally I found the clip on IMDB.com with a credit to John Wilson and Sonny so I knew it existed.

It felt like, once again, the Internet was gaslighting me.

I finally found the video buried in a John Wilson compilation (more on that below). But the mystery is still outstanding, which Comedy Hour show did this video appear on?

In any case, during this deep dive into John Wilson cartoons. I learned a few things:

  1. In some cases, like for Joni Mitchell’s “Big Yellow Taxi” and Coven’s “One Tin Soldier,” the original animation were created for the original artist and Sonny and Cher simply repurposed them or sang over them for their first variety show.
  2. British artist John Wilson wasn’t always the animator for these videos but sometimes he was. But he was always the brand of the animations (which also sometimes fell under the umbrella of his company Fine Arts Films). Sometimes he was just the director and/or producer. And he’s sometimes billed as John David Wilson. His ex-wife Angele is sometimes credited as ink and painter or colorist on early videos.
  3. There were at least 10 “John Wilson” animations that appeared on The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, Sonny and Cher’s first variety series. Then there is the mystery “Sweet Gypsy Rose” cartoon sung by Sonny, which total 11 Wilson cartoons associated with them.
  4. And finally, John Wilson was involved in many other famous animations including both Disney’s Peter Pan (1953) and The Lady and the Tramp (1955), the opening credits for the movie Grease (1978), the old Mr. Magoo cartoons (1953) and an animation for Bob Dylan’s 1983 song “You Gotta Serve Somebody” which is hard to find and see.

The first ten Comedy Hour animations are included on Cher Lunar’s The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour Animated Videos (Full Compilation)

  1. Joni Mitchell’s “Big Yellow Taxi” from episode #2 – animated by John Sparey from 1971.
  2. Coven’s “One Tin Soldier” from episode #7 – the title card is hard to read but it looks like animation done by Bill Carney or Parney.
  3. Melanie’s “Brand New Key” from episode #12– no credits.
  4. Sonny & Cher’s own “A Cowboy’s Work Is Never Done” from episode #23 (one of my favorite ones) – animation by Rudi Cataldi.

  5. Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory‘s “The Candy Man” from episode 24 – animation by Rudi Cataldi.
  6. Three Dog Night’s “Black and White” from episode #32 (this is my favorite one and a precursor to the Cloud Cult drawing video “When You Reach the End).”
  7. Randy Newman’s “Love Story” from episode #36 – no credits.
  8. Jim Croce’s “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown” from episode #44 – animated by Fred Madison.
  9. Stevie Wonder’s “Higher Ground” from episode #57– animated by Fred Madison (look for the little pre-MTV video image in there and the nod at the very end to the current political leadership the animation addresses).

  10. Cher’s own “Dark Lady” from episode #64 – no credits.

He also did the bumpers and opening credits for The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour 1971-1973 and 1974.

Another John Wilson compilation capture’s “Sweet Gypsy Rose,” a roll-up called John Wilson’s Mini-Musicals. The video can be seen at 21:12 (animation by Fred Madison). For a minute I thought maybe it was from The Sonny Comedy Review, Sonny’s short-lived solo 1974 show. But then the wife can be seen washing laundry with a box of “CHER” (a play on the detergent Cheer) and the wife scowls while doing dishes (clearly not happy about her return to domestic life) while the husband relaxes in a chair watching a television playing The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour. Wilson also famously animated those cartoon faces which also appear on the Comedy Hour set’s orange light globes.

This collection has many more animations, including the original Joni Mitchell and Coven versions of “Big Yellow Taxi” and “One Tin Soldier” at the beginning and also “Both Sides Now” by Mitchell (animated by Wilson and labeled as “a computer image film”) and songs by Helen Reddy (“Angie Baby”) animated by John Wilson, “Ray Davies/The Kinks “Demon Alcohol” (animated by Wilson and sung by W. Carpenter), “Reachin'” by Bob Moline (no animation credit, just “a film by John David Wilson, color by Angele Wilson” from 1971. There are also some other notable Wilson films in this reel, the animation to jazz artist Stan Kenton’s “Conga Valiente” by John Wilson and Tony Pabian and the 1956 animation to Igor Stravinsky’s “Petrushka” which was made by 10 animators, none of them being John Wilson.

And the videos often include the credits cards (see above).

Anyway, when I asked Sherry if I could discuss her question here,  she continued about the song “Sweet Gypsy Rose.”

“I am amazed I can remember something I saw when I was about 9 or 10 years old. The “Gypsy” one was deflating. Housewife runs away (we all would from the cartoon depiction of housework), gets glamourous in a seedy way admittedly, then gets yanked back to housework by husband and is supposed to look happy. That stuck with me. Male viewpoint song. I wish I could see it again to see if it was kind of subversive once she was home again. I would expect that from the S&C gender skirmishes.”

There’s yet another rollup called “John Wilson’s Animation Wonderland VHS.” These are all animated poems and short stories, including Ernest L. Thayer’s poem “Casey at the Bat” narrated by Paul Frees (1976). Many of them are children’s stories and folk tales and are without any credits (although some of the actors sound very familiar), like Alvin Tresselt’s “The Smallest Elephant in the World,” Peter Hughes’ “The Emperor’s Oblong Pancake” (narrated by Edward Everett Horton, whom I love in the classic movie Holiday), Jonathan Swift’s “Gulliver’s Travels” (narrated by Vincent Price), the American folk tale “Johnny Appleseed,” the Japanese folk tale “The Stone Cutter” (narrated by Swedish comedian Harry Stewart), “The Chocolate Princess” (author unknown, narrated by Bill Cosby, and I hate to say it but this seems like a very good story and its easy to pretend Bill Cosby isn’t reading it), the Norwegian folk tale “The Salty Sea” (“Why the Sea is Salty”), Greek mythology’s “King Midas,” Mary O’Neill’s “Hailstones and Halibut Bones,” the original story of “The Early Birds” (narrated by Jonathan Winters and voice actress Joan Gerber), Mark Twain’s “The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County,” Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Tinder Box,” the American legend “The Fish and the Burning Stones,” John Townsend Trowbridge’s “Darius Green and His Flying Machine,”  a historical retelling of “The Battle of Bunker Hill,” William Shakespeare’s “Jacque’s Speech” from the play As You Like It and “Two Songs” from “Love’s Labor Lost,” and Cyrano de Bergerac’s “A Voyage to the Moon.”

But back to Leroy Brown and Gypsy Rose, Sherry said,

“Thank you for allowing me back into my childhood. I must have seen those on repeat because they were both so familiar.”

I brought up the coded language in “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown” and Sherry astutely noted the glorious depictions of the pimp’s regalia and how this was “Blacksploitation in cartoon form.”

These animations were unforgettable to anyone who saw them as a kid in the 1970s, along with Schoolhouse Rock’s educational animations. They contain some of best examples of 1970s music shorts and undoubtedly influenced the plethora of videos to come in the 1980s, which then turned around to influence Cher’s own 80s and early 90s music videos in a crazy remediation circle.

Some obituaries for John Wilson from:

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