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End of 2025 Catchup

I checked Cher’s merch page and unfortunately there is not yet a Cher snow globe available. But wouldn’t that be swell?

Music

Since I’ve been working on my own Cher rabbit holes (with books and dolls), I’ve been delayed in posting the latest Cher news. And there has been quite a lot of it, the biggest of which maybe happened yesterday.

I had no idea when I woke up Sunday morning that I’d be greeted with news of new music that very day. Cher completely surprised us with a  new  Christmas single!

Some fans, me included, worried that after months of really aggressively fake Cher news on Facebook, that this too was fake news. In fact, I spent the better part of Sunday morning lying in bed trying to find confirmation on this story. I didn’t even think to go to straight to Cher’s YouTubes. Eventually I just had to rely on the reliable sources of Cher Universe and Cher Brazil. They get the scoops, those young whippersnappers.

I spoke with another Cher scholar and we wondered is this was actually a 2025 recording? There has been no context around this release (interviews, advanced press) and so it’s hard to know. Or is this an outtake of the 2023 Christmas album? Will it be resold and repackaged into the old album to tease fans into buying it once again? The song is heavy on auto-tune, which feels like Cher’s continued middle-finger into the face of auto-tunes detractors, but its also not new.

On the other hand, the lyrics speak to the from-ennui-to-anguish her fans may be dealing with in 2025 in a sort of general way that covers all of our possible scenarios.

I always appreciate the Cher-as-Mother-Figure songs. Her Cheer-Up-Kid gestures always get me. This could be because Sonny & Cher were my fantasy parents. But songs like “Chiquitita” and “Stop Crying Your Heart Out” I find very comforting. This is another song in that category. It’s been quite another rough year from this end (ending with a roof leak among other dramas), rougher probably because it’s also been rough for all my friends too.

Sometimes I feel like I’m losing my resistance and elasticity. (Don’t tell my non-Cher mother. She’s got enough to worry about.) But songs like this are very appreciated from Cher’s own brand of public surrogate motherhood.

This is also a good time to visit the Cher Scholar Christmas Page.

The new song also explains why Cher will be on Saturday Night Live on Saturday December 20, their year-end Christmas show. She’s a musical guest alongside Arianna Grande, but hopefully she’ll also appear in some of the skits. Would a duet be too much?

Let’s touch base next year on how all that turns out.

A Grammy Salute to Cyndi Lauper aired on CBS on 5 October. It was a great special all around with some fabulous and unexpected duets. Cher came out for the finale of “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” in a visual tribute to Yayoi Kusama which I love, love, loved!

Last week, Cher also received another victory against Mary Bono but this time at the federal level. Bono plans to appeal all the way to the top! (Just wow. Will the Supreme Court eventually take on this case someday? Let’s hope not.)

Cher Books

CBS Mornings (which has confusingly rebranded since I last looked from the previous title of CBS This Morning) had Cher on the show in November to talk about the paperback version of her Memoir just out. There is an appended story at the end of the paperback version, (to get us to all buy that again) about Sonny and Cher at Martoni’s Restaurant, a very funny one but not the “Laugh In” story that was left out of the hardback version, which is significant I think. Did that even happen at all?

Cher’s Memoir part two was postponed earlier this year until spring of  2026 and now reports are saying it’s furtherly postponed until fall of 2026, which will be two years after part one came out. (That’s the way it is and you’ll like it!)

Anyway, 2025 was sort of an embarrassment of riches on the Cher book front. In another post (this week) I’ll talk about Annie Zaleski’s picture bio and Natalie Hammond’s style guide.

But this week, the children’s book on Cher (from the Little Golden Book people) came out, written by Candice Ransom and  illustrated by Laura Catrinella. It’s so brief, it didn’t have the chance to print any egregious errors. Which is nice.

Some of the best drawings include:

And then there’s this picture. I’m sure many Cher fans will fight me on this one but that is definitely me in the lower left-hand corner of this picture. That’s even my facial expression at Cher concerts!

Outings 

Cher attended the Swarovski Masters of Lighting Opening Celebration in Los Angeles with Alexander Edwards on 28 October. “On the day, Cher donned a black see-through bodysuit paired with a fur crop jacket and wide pants adorned with chain decorations on the sides, exuding her unique charisma. Her signature black wavy hair and glamorous jewelry highlighted her presence as the ‘ageless diva.'” (chosun.com)

Cher was also presented with a Bambi Legende Award in Germany on 13 November.

Cher was introduced around her iconic status and humanity. In her speech Cher said she was proud to be there and felt she had a special relationship with Germany, where people seemed to always been interested in her during her career’s low ebbs. She talked about her inability to save Billy the Elephant from the L.A. Zoo. She kept saying, “I’m just a singer; I can’t do anything.” But then after telling the successful Kavaan elephant story she ended with, “I’m not just a pretty face, am I?”

Movies

Someone reached out to me from Peru about the movie Suspect.

A man named Anthony told me he had recently watched the movie on VHS and “found it very entertaining,  full of suspense and interesting moments. For example, the scene in the library” and yes that scene was very delectable!

Anthony said he searched the internet for reviews and found my Cher Zine review “full of details and very interesting observations.”

He said he was “grateful to be able to read it and that there are unique opinions” and he hoped I could read the email “and feel grateful for filling the world with culture.”

I was indeed very grateful he reached out to me. Suspect is a bit underrated as it includes a very bookish character against Cher-type and I think she does a fine job in it alongside a young Liam Neeson.

More About Me

So my friend in San Francisco and I finished reading Healing The Child Within by Charles L. Whitfield (which Cher recommends in her book Forever Fit) and we started on the comparatively very large workbook.

Oy vey! It has been a shocking experience because when I started reading the book, it felt so dated, so 80s. My friend and I have read so many other self-help books between when this one was published and now. And it seemed very substance-abuse related, which was not my family history, (in my childhood anyway). But then it turns out the childhoods explored encapsulated many more kinds of dysfunction under “also ran” where I could find my little self. The book is full of tables and charts and I could see exactly where my therapy in Los Angeles stalled when I left to move to New Mexico. I never got to core issues! Or letting the feelings go!!

So I’ll be restarting therapy next year when my insurance is sorted out. My friend and I are now deep into documenting our true and public selves. Many surprising revelations for us, I must say.

I’ll be making an unexpected visit to Cleveland next weekend so I wasn’t going to finish putting up my Christmas trees. But then I did it anyway just to cheer myself up.

 

 

Memoir vs. Memoir Part 3: the 1970s

I just need to say this again: if you had told me when I was six or seven or eight years old that one day I’d be reading Sonny’s memoir alongside Cher’s memoir, each discussing their days as Sonny & Cher, I would have fainted across my Raggedy Ann bedspread. It was inconceivable to me that such an amazing thing would happen someday in this world. That’s how much I loved Sonny & Cher.

I now think either Cher eventually read Sonny’s book or one of her ghostwriters did because their opinions, even minor ones, seem so point-to-point.  And why would they not read everything, just for research. I guess it could be an amazing coincidence, like Sonny’s image of Sonny and Cher connected to the same umbilical cord.

Anyway I’ll try not to replicate Cher’s book here because you should go out and buy it. The paperback is out now with an additional story. But let’s continue…

If you want to go back:

The Nightclubs

So Sonny admits it was Joe DeCarlo’s idea to try out nightclubs. This is big. Cher and the world usually give that idea to Sonny. Sonny calls the period a “bumpy road personally.” Cher says they actually got back on track as a family during this period. And Cher calls it Supper Theater. The Supper Club circuit. Places like the Flamingo in Las Vegas and the circuit of hotel and casino dinner theaters.

Cher remembers she was “relieved to be working” and they traveled with Chas in a wicker crib and their nanny Heidi, “the sweetest woman in the world.” Chastity’s first two years were on the road and her first milestones all in motels and hotels. Cher says Chas was our early entertainment and “such a gift.” The band and hotel staff held her all the time and her “feet never touched the ground. Cher says, “she was the sole focus of our long road back to who we once were. “ Even though they had no money or house and had hotplate meals, the three of them hung out together and “no matter the circumstances, Sonny could always make me laugh.” Cher is unequivocable: “struggling again helped revitalize our relationship…being poor narrowed our focus—how to best spend our time, made us feel three of us against the world.” (This is the “backs against the wall” era.) Cher says Sonny was a big kid, very creative, and she could happily watch him play with Chas for hours.

“Our world consisted of the three of us.” This sounds very happy but Sonny portrays it all unhappy and remembered only the struggle.

He says, they “struggled to find chemistry off stage” and he says he took some of the act’s barbs personally. He does start to worry he is being too bossy and that he lives too much in fantasy land. He admits he was “obsessed” with Cher’s “steamy love scene” with Steve Whitaker in the Chastity movie. He worried that his jealousy meant they didn’t “get it on film.”

Later in the book Sonny will claim that Cher’s unhappiness came out of left field. But here he acknowledges their fights over the busy schedule he arranged and he admits they “worked their asses off” in the summer of 1970 and that may have “cost us our relationship.” He mentions making the Dick Van Dyke TV special (he doesn’t mention its name, The First Nine Months Are the Hardest) and how it was hard to be on the road again and playing two shows a night. “We were up and down on planes…packing and unpacking…walking through smelly kitchens late at night…not connecting well.” He says Cher saw it as “a treadmill going nowhere.” He also says, “our enthusiasm for life was too low to pick up” and “you feel miserable.”

Cher does say ”every night was like a war” but she’s talking about with the audience.

Only Cher mentions the Love American Style appearance in January of 1971. Cher talks about how kind Sonny was during her panic attacks and his “odd” experiments like having her sing Puccini’s “Un bel dì, vedremo” from Madame Butterfly.

Cher explains how the new act developed from drunks in crowds and how she started talking to the band and making them laugh. She didn’t get the side eye from Sonny because it was working and at least they were entertaining each other. Cher calls it “always hit or miss” and that very “slowly we developed a [20 minute] act people would line up to see.” She notes it was “not our singing. “They wanted to hear our jokes.” Cher talks about her heritage of wiseassery. But that “never in a gazillion years did I imagine that I’d become a standup comedian.” Cher explains the type of jokes they told: about Sonny’s mother, his height, his singing, his hopes of becoming a sex symbol, her nose, her body type. Cher says it was accidental and “We got excited again.” They both tell some of the jokes they did.  Cher says, “Timing was everything” and she could “make Sonny laugh so much he couldn’t sputter out his lines.”

Sonny’s version: “We gradually developed a humorous and fairly sophisticated repartee.”

Cher again says their stage personas were the opposite of their off-stage relationship. Cher tells a story of trying to confide unhappiness in Sonny and his explosion and threat to divorce her.

Cher does talk about the discomfort of it, how that “felt horrible.” They would be in motels across the street from venues and casinos. Train whistles would keep them up at night. Bad plumbing. Mildew on the walls. Paper thin walls. Sonny would make them hot-plate pasta for the family and the band because they couldn’t afford restaurants. Cher admits sometimes “I wanted to curl up and die.”  Cher says they’d take the service elevator and then navigate their way through the busy kitchen trying not to slip on any grease or wok into a waiter flying past carrying five plates and standing by the swinging doors and trying to keep out of the way, listening for their cue. Then walk out smiling.

She says her sister was  traveling with them, too.

Sonny admits that although they were feuding, they were also other’s best friends. He says there are talks of a TV show but nothing came of it. Cher talks about the Century Plaza comedian night and working on The Nitty Gritty Hour special, which she says felt formulaic and nothing came of it.

Sonny’s August 26 1970 diary entry admitted Cher was complaining that he was pushing too hard. He says that during weeks in New Orleans they barely spoke unless they were fighting. (Later he will say he had no idea she felt this way.)

Cher says, “I felt permanently tired.”

Sonny says they would dress up to play to 12 people, where they used to play for tens of thousands. He says they were “not concerned with putting on a good show” but “how can I get out of this situation?”

Cher says it’s a “thousand times harder to come back than become, almost impossible.” And she concurs that they were used to 30 thousand screaming fans and were lucky now if they had more than 100. One of the midnight shows at the Elmwood there was only 4 people. Some “real dives.” They were used to kids who “knew every word of our songs” and now played “to people who didn’t know us,” people who were coming for dinner and drinks, not to see a show.

At this time Sonny said he felt Cher’s “admiration for him was zip” and that he was worried about the survival of Sonny & Cher but she was only worried about her own survival.  It’s in the middle of this, (not at the massive tax debt episode where Cher puts it) that Sonny says he asked Cher for 3 years (not 2) to get them back on top.

They both agreed they communicated better in Sonny’s diary.

He shares his September 11 diary entry (paperback, 1812) which has similar verbiage to the one Cher mentions in her memoir (hardback, 207) , the one that talks about Cher being “my stability, my generator. I need you to believe in me Cher” and Cher responds: “I am you. That’s scary to me. Even if you left me, you couldn’t rid your body of me. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud.” Maybe these are two different entries they’re talking about. They don’t read the same in each book. This also wasn’t one of the ones Mary Bono republished in People Magazine.

But in hindsight Cher felt she did believe in Sonny because “Sonny believed in us…he kept pushing,” getting them TV appearances and shows.

Sonny says they were “popping” and “generating heat” and selling out shows and “drawing” in Las Vegas, where they shared a bill with David Brenner and Frankie Avalon. They didn’t even have a hit record, Sonny marvels. He says the true benchmark of their worth was “how hotels received us.”

Both end chapters before they start to talk about their new TV show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour.

The First TV Show & Records

Sonny says TV executive Fred Silverman, a “genius programmer at CBS Television” saw them at the Waldorf Astoria.

Cher says it was around 2 years to the day that Fred Silverman saw their performance at The Royal Box Supper Club in the Americana hotel. Cher says by this time their act was “razor sharp.” Then they were sub-hosts on the Merv Griffin Show.

Sonny says, “Silverman arranged for us to serve as guests on the Merv Griffin show and they went over big. Silverman sent a congratulatory letter.”

Cher says Silverman wanted younger viewers. He sent producers Bearde and Bly to the Fairmont Hotel where they saw some raw talent and all hit it off. On their way back to LA on the plane, they sketched out the show. I remember Bearde and Bly saying the same thing on some Cher documentary, maybe Behind the Music.

In the meantime, Sonny says, a friend from his record promo days, Johnny Musso, signed Cher to Kapp Records and Sonny says, “he was taking a risk.” Musso “didn’t want me to produce.” This is the second time Sonny is asked not to be producer. “He wanted to use Snuff Garrett. I was bored by the studio and Snuff was a friend back to Liberty Records.”

Because of the TV schedule, Cher says, they had one week to finish this first record. Cher “loved Snuffy” because he was funny and great at his job, a “get it done” kind of guy. Sonny was busy with other things, Cher says, like arranging the tours.

Silverman arranged for a replacement series of 7 shows, Sonny says, and their ratings were good.

Cher calls it a summer of 6 shows and their show led into the miniseries about six wives of Henry VIII, every night a different wife. Fact check: there were 6.

Then in September the single “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” was released and 7 weeks later it hit #1. Sonny counts every chart position and he gets them right. Cher tends to get them wrong. Cher talks about the cover, the accent on her name, how it was her first top ten solo (“Bang Bang” went to #2 and “You’d Better Sit Down Kids” to #9). The album went gold and the song was nominated for a Grammy. She was working so hard she doesn’t remember how it felt. She only remembers being on the road, country fairgrounds and “huge crowds for us” but also being exhausted.

Sonny is frustrated with this. “Cher was sleeping” he says disparagingly at ever milestone of good fortune. He feels he is the only one enjoying it. Then he fires Joe DeCarlo because he’s taking 20% (the combined 10% each that 1960s managers Stone and Greene were getting). Besides, he has his road manager Denis Prognolato who he says was doing all the work anyway.

Remember Denis was the spy in tennis-lesson-gate, friend to Sonny. Not so much to Cher.

Cher says around this time Sonny changed. He hires lawyer Irwin Spiegel and is always in meetings with him smoking cigars.

The album Sonny & Cher Live comes out and goes to #35.

The “All I Ever Need Is You” single goes to #7 and the album to #14. The single “When You Say Love” goes to #32. This is all Sonny recounting.

But we could have used more of Sonny’s view about his own songs here, just like with “I Got You Babe” and “The Beat Goes On.”  He had three songs on All I Ever Need Is You. He says nothing about “A Cowboys’ Work is Never Done” except that it was a top 10 song in April of 1972 (#8).

Things are going good, Sonny says. The Comedy Hour got a greenlight. Their Vegas shows are sold out with “traffic backed up nightly.” But he feels deflated when Cher says she “wished they were really big, like the Rolling Stones or Dylan.” They are selling seats for $500. He says he feels invalidated and Cher is always the victim. (Which is neck-breaking projection in one paragraph). He thinks Cher is tired of S&C and hates sharing the spotlight. Cast and crew of the variety show, including Bob Mackie, the producers, the first hairdresser, just don’t back this up. There is the famous story about how Sonny would say “jump” and Cher would say “how high,” plus the fact that he said himself Cher had anxiety and hated performing without him, and in the 1970s would prefer to perform through him.

Sonny sees they are drifting apart. He wants you to know he sees and yet he also reserves the right to be completely taken by surprise later.  He feels they are still connected, intwined, “still drew life from the same umbilical chord and to think of severing ties seemed suicidal.” (Which shows he was thinking about it.)

Cher agrees and says they had a strange relationship as husband and wife, best friends, parents, partners and strangers.

Sonny says they went “from hasbeens to hot stuff “ and that he reinvested most of “our salary” into show, which had a 35k weekly budget. Which he said was “peanuts in prime time.” How’d they afford The Big House then? Because they were broke at the start of this decade. Sonny talks about their nose jobs and Cher’s breast reshaping and the infected scars that resulted.

The both agree they loved their televisions show. Sonny says, “the show was a blast to do. Even on our bad days we had fun.” He says Cher had her dream gowns of Bob Mackie.

In Cher’s version she had to fight for Bob Mackie. Ret Turner was already assigned to the show. She got Mackie to intervene and persevere. Cher became friends with both men. Cher says the small budget gave the show a family dynamic in the beginning.

Her first favorite dress was the red one with the open stomach, but that she loved the beautiful beaded shimmery gowns, which later came to cost 5k per dress. Cher says she was a size 6 at 108 pounds and her body type had come into vogue. (We could argue she helped it get there with her TV show.) Cher talks about John Wilson, the set, their coordinated outfits, how they both walked on stage with interlocking fingers, and her feeling “this is what I’m supposed to do.”

Cher has much more room to talk about the details of the show, what they did on which days, who the guest stars were, the role of Chastity, the innuendos and the lack of censorship, about the audience feedback. She said she could look back at the script Sonny wrote (“virtually by himself”) for Good Times and suddenly see it was “way ahead of its time.”  She talks about the first taping, the issues with her skin and hair.

Cher said Silverman was like a father figure. She talked about the difference between their written lines and their improvisations, how Sonny didn’t memorize anything and relied on cue cards, whereas she would memorize the scripts “on first sight.” She said she “let him flounder,” go along and then get him with a one-liner. She said the show was set up for Sonny to be the straight man. And they encouraged him to be silly. “He knew I had his back,” Cher says. She felt they were more equals on the show. “Sonny learned his own style of comedy and was hilarious. People loved him.” Cher says when they went to work, they got along. “I don’t remember a single show when we were angry with each other.”

Sonny says they had “top-notch writers” but he doesn’t mention any names of the cast or crew. He says Cher still had stage freight and worked to the cameras and through characters. But it gelled, was “hip and kooky.” Sonny talks about his “Fair Cher” poems and Cher’s impeccable timing” but he says now Cher is “impossible to read.”

Cher says they had a great crew and the producers did a great job. She says the reviews improved and they were renewed for 13 more shows. Critics said they were “endearingly mismatched” and they liked the screw ups and ad libs and the married-people affection like Sonny brushing hair from Cher’s face. Cher talks about director Art Fisher’s pioneering chroma key/blue screen, her iconic Vamp and Laundromat skits. She mentions Ted Zeigler, Freeman King, Peter Cullen, Murray Langston and Steve Martin “who went out tour with us after shows.” She talks about singing the old songs. She says she needed Sonny for those solos and couldn’t have done them without him. (This doesn’t sound like a woman who had been trying to distance herself from him.)

Cher says they were a Monday night institution and a top 10 hit with millions of viewers at a time. Market research found  Sonny loveable and Cher beautiful with her array of clothes. Cher then talks about recovering on weekends with Chas. After a show wrap, she would “go home, go look at the baby, wash face, brush teeth, watch TV, go to sleep.”

She remembers their days at their house at Oxnard Beach which were “some of our happiest days.”

Sonny agrees that at that time they felt like “a cozy family unit.”

Cher talks about being TV famous and how work was a safe zone, that they never fought on the set. [Charo tells a story of overhearing fights on the set and there were those Battling Bonos rumors.]

The Big House

Architectural Digest reported in 2019 the house was on sale for $115 million. More history (considering the short time they lived there, all tenants considered, it’s interesting that the house is still referred to as the Sonny & Cher house/estate) and updates through the years.

They were living in the 34-room mansion known as the St. Cloud house and it was 8 weeks into season 1 of their show and Tony Curtis, ever the opportunist Sonny says, sold them another house known as The Big House, now known as Owlwood or sometimes Carolwood Estate. Curtis said to Sonny, “You’re stars. You should reside in heaven!” The house was $750,000. Both houses seemed like a trophy, Sonny says, and that the Big House was 54 rooms and 30,000 sq ft. [Wikipedia says the house is 12,000 sq ft.]

Sonny says the purchase was a grave mistake and there were lots of misfortunes associated with the house and it was too big for a tiny family. He said the house had cold, bad vibes and was only good for hiding troubles. You wonder then why he later wanted to fight for it. He says Cher furnished it in three days.

Cher says “I don’t think anyone ever sat in the living room.”

Cher admits she broke down in tears asking Sonny if they could buy it. Cher says she rarely cried or asked for anything.” She says, Sonny wanted the house too because it was “a gargantuan symbol of our comeback,” their “castle on the hill” and that it would change things. Cher admits she had the house decorated with antiques from Europe. She says, “it was stunning” and she lists the outdoor buildings and describes Chas’ bedroom, although notes that Chas preferred the tack house to her bedroom (famously depicted on Sonny & Cher’s last duet album). The kitchen was her least favorite, Cher said and that the paneled library was her favorite space and one of the smallest. Cher correctly notes the 12, 200 sq ft of the house with 9 bedrooms, 10 baths. Sonny never wanted to throw parties, she said, except for Thanksgiving, Christmas and Chas’ birthday.  Sonny stopped her friends like Joey from coming over.

Busyness & Las Vegas

Cher says Sonny was “turning into one of ‘the suits.'” He wasn’t happy being an entertainer but wanted to be a mogul. She missed the old pasta-making Sonny with Chas on his hip. Now he just spent hours in meeting with lawyers. Cher talks about “The Benevolent Army of El Primo,” the jackets, all which was kind of a joke but kind of not a joke. Cher feels herself disconnecting, shutting down in fights. The CBS family “kept me going” she says but she longed to have own opinions and make friends. She felt closed in. They had no dinners out, no concerts, no movies. Their relationship was all work. Outside of that she had shopping and Chas.

Sonny feels Cher is ungrateful. Cher says Sonny was on a mission never to be poor again.

Sonny acknowledges it was a hectic calendar. “If there was a break in the TV show, I booked out of town concerts…That’s where the big money was.” He said they made 50-60k on a good night. They made 4 million that way, he says and that “Cher’s complaints were a broken record.” [But during the breakup story below, he will act dumbfounded.]

Cher’s defense: “Work was hard on me” and she said she had a more demanding TV show schedule than Sonny did. Sonny also wanted them to be recording new [solo and duet] music and doing shows on the road. “We have to make the most of this second chance…this is our time,” Cher remembers Sonny saying.  Everything became “a big blur,” all the TV work, fittings, photoshoots, interviews, tours, recordings, being a mom. She said they did 50 shows that year and Sonny arranged it so they would have to tape 2 shows a week sometimes, film two shows in 3 days show so they could spend 9 days on the road. It saved the producers money but Cher felt she had no time to catch a breath and it was double work for everyone on the show. She said they did that about once a month. She quotes producer George Schlatter as saying, “If Sonny & Cher were driving into Hollywood from the valley, Sonny would take a gig on Mulholland to break up the trip.”

Sonny says he was “building our savings” and he understood that “she hated the grind” and how she never could play in Vegas without getting sick, which Sonny took as “an excuse to cut the run short.” Sonny loved Vegas. “We were huge there…broke house records.” Sonny loved the “Disneyland for adults” aspect, what he called “the dark artificiality” of it. He admits Cher hated “everything about it” and that she hid in hotel room with room service and the TV. He pictured her as reclusive as Hugh Hefner, which is a tragic misreading of a person desperate to go out and have some fun for a change, just not in anyway like the way Sonny wanted to have fun.

Sonny went to see Elvis with Denis. He’d never seen Elvis but they often played Vegas at the same time. Sonny was fascinated by his power over an audience. It’s interesting to compare how Sonny and Cher each describe seeing Elvis perform. They are both mesmerized by it.

Elvis invited Sonny and Denis backstage “I’d never seen anyone like Elvis,” whom Sonny said had the charisma to transform a mediocre show. Sonny said Elvis “didn’t give a shit” and like Cher he would probably rather trade handshakes for money than perform. Sonny doesn’t mention this but like Elvis, Cher would also become a mesmerizing and hypnotic personality.

Sonny is actually great at explaining Elvis in his book, though. He said Elvis told him he liked the S&Cs version of “What Now My Love [Sonny mis punctuates the title] and that he listened to it before recording his own version (which sounds more like the original French version to me).

Sonny said he and Cher had a private plane and would be mobbed at airports, and that they had packed shows. But that Cher was “absorbed in needlepoint” on plains and in dressing rooms and always looking bored and disinterested.

Cher says she needlepointed herself half to death from the stress.

Sonny says romance became a commodity. Both agree they were suppressing their relationship troubles.

Cher felt alienated, not allowed to have friends over or “fraternize with the band.” By this time her sister was busy working as an actress. Cher tells about the Tupperware story and this is one of the final straws.

The Breakup Story

Sonny begins his breakup chapter with two diary entries that look back on the implosion, his November 4, 1972, entry where “Everything has exploded. Chastity doesn’t know mom and dad are on the ropes.” He says he’s been so worried about their careers, he’s never worried about their relationship.  [Sonny, even your own diary begs to differ].

Then a few days later on November 11, “Cher wants to run like a racehorse but she can’t find a track. I used to be the jokey. She shoved the saddle up my ass.”

[This is a terrible analogy because it kind of proves Cher’s point. She’s not a horse. WTH.] He says Cher was “admittedly miserable.” He talks about the worst time in his life, when he was married to Donna and lost his job before Christmas and then his car broke down.

They both take time to tell this story.

Sonny introduces the day by talking about Cher being antsy and unhappy (for no reason he can understand).

Cher introduces her version by talking about her breakup catalyst, not Bill Hamm (Sonny never obscures his name), but her soon-to-be best friend, Paulette, who was a 21-year-old worldly Armenian, sophisticated and dating their road manager, Jerry Ridgeway. They’ve been best friends for over 50 years now, Cher says. And Cher was initially allowed this friend because for some reason “Sonny never saw her as a threat.” [And he never acknowledges Paulette’s role in their breakup in his own memoirs.] Cher enjoyed listening to Paulette’s life stories. They each wanted the other’s life. By that time Cher says she wasn’t eating or sleeping. (In Forever Fit Cher Cher says she was suicidal and down to 94 pounds, only eating a few bites of egg a day.) Cher says she feels the TV show changed Sonny completely but that she still loved him. “He didn’t notice me anymore” because he was trying to be a mogul. This is a consistent Cher story in interviews (from at least Believe-era on). Cher felt she couldn’t trust him anymore and she was needlepointing herself “to death.” She is candid that she had no desire to have more kids with Sonny although she admitted he was a great dad and that he and Chaz had a special relationship that “didn’t include me.” Chas was El Primo, Jr.

Cher says that they had back-to-back shows in Reno and Las Vegas. At the Sahara they had two shows a night in the Congo Room. She was feeling trapped. Paulette was starting to help her as a gofer and a dresser. After shows, Paulette would hang out with the band smoking pot, drinking beer, playing guitars. Cher was envious of her stories.

Cher says she was exhausted and asked Sonny for a vacation to Europe and he rolled his eyes. He called her selfish. Cher says she was crazy with loneliness and had been sitting on the balcony rails of hotel rooms ready to jump “five or six times” (!!!) But “one morning everything changed.” Between shows that day she figured she could just leave Sonny. Paulette was oblivious to Cher’s condition and told her about Bill Hamm’s crush on her. There’s a story with the Etch-a-Sketch and the song “Superstar.”

Sonny says It was a Saturday night. “Cher and I were breaking attendance records while ignoring our personal differences.” Between shows, Sonny remembers that he, Cher, Denis and our guitarist Bill Hamm went over to the Hilton to see Tina Turner. They then went back to Flamingo and did their late show and received three standing ovations. David Brenner was their opening act and jokes about “the dough we were making” and “our opulent suite.”

Cher says it was The Righteous Brothers that the band wanted to see at the Hilton Hotel and that Cher went with Paulette and Ridgeway. Not Sonny. Everyone acted like she was crazy for doing something without Sonny. She sat next to Bill and he put his hand on her knee. (I can’t wait for this movie.)

In Cher’s version, she returned from the Righteous Brothers and had to ignore Sonny’s fury. She left for her dressing room, ignoring him. After the show she told Paulette she wanted to hang out with the band and they hung out in Jeff Porcaro’s room. None of this is in Sonny’s book. Cher said the band was “nervous as hell.” Bill and Cher left to go look for cigarettes. They ran into David Brenner. Cher says David and Brenner were close and Brenner was nervous about seeing Cher out and about without Sonny, too. Bill asks Cher how she can live this way. Some kissing happens. They go back into the room. Sonny calls pissed. Cher says she’s just hanging with the guys. “You could have heard a pin drop in the room,” Cher says. Cher says she told Sonny on the phone that she was bringing Bill up to their room.

Sonny says they were exhausted after the second show and there was strained conversation at the elevator. On the road, Sonny says, they had a truce to engage in “shallow chitchat” because they were “forced to share close quarters.” (How does he not see a train wreck coming?) Anyway, Sonny says he is looking forward to sleep. [This must be one of the nights he wasn’t out with other women.] Cher shot me a pained look. “Bill Hamm is coming up,” Sonny remembers Cher saying. He figured they were working on songs together. [How was that allowed? Working on music without Sonny?] When they get to the hotel room, Sonny has Cher saying, “I’m in love with Bill Hamm. I want you to leave.”

Says says he wanted to talk about it. “Let’s talk, okay.” Sonny says he “never suspected” was “shocked” and felt “flat-footed.” He admits he thought of killing Bill Hamm or hitting him. Sonny says when Bill came in to the room, he was oblivious but soon figured it out. (Sonny is always more sympathetic to Cher’s boyfriends and husbands than he was to Cher somehow.) He said Cher had a “fearless nerve.”

Cher says the nerve was all Bill Hamm’s who must have had “balls the size of something huge.” (That’s how much everyone was afraid of Sonny.) Cher doesn’t have Sonny asking to talk about anything. She has him in a chair staring her down and she remembers shocking herself by saying she wants to sleep with Bill in their room. She says she didn’t mean it but it seemed like an expeditious was to escape The Sonny. Cher says Sonny returned silence (not a plea for dialogue) and that he asked her “how long to you think you’ll need?” Cher said two hours and not another word was spoken and Sonny left the room.

According to Sonny, he fantasized about breaking whiskey bottles over their heads or perhaps destroying the suite (which would have been a real rock star move for him). But he just left, felling defeated, like a “zombie.”

Cher acknowledges that she had put Hamm in jeopardy. She said they just spent the night talking. Cher appreciated his friendship and sympathy and she cried on his shoulder.

Sonny says he went to play Blackjack (which is kind of odd) and that Bill’s girlfriend tapped him on the shoulder looking for Bill. Sonny says he told her what was going on. Sonny said, “let’s go to your room” and “she did not hesitate.” Wow. They had retribution sex which was unsatisfying. Sonny says, because they “bumped into each other with the enthusiasm of two people who had just been mugged.” (Very good metaphor though.)

Sonny says Bill returned in the morning. Sonny and the unnamed “girl” where still together in bed. “He brushed by me as if I was not there.” When Sonny returned to the opulent S&C suite, it was 5 am and Cher was asleep in bed. Sonny says he took off his wedding ring (and you wonder if he had it on all those times he was cheating on Cher) and had a “disturbed” sleep next to Cher.

In Cher’s version, Sonny returns at 5 am. They agree on this.

But Sonny says he wanted to talk to Cher when they both woke up and he remembers telling her it wasn’t too late to change things. Cher asked him what he did last night and he said “I screwed Bill’s girlfriend.” And Cher said, “that’s funny, we didn’t even go to bed together.” Sonny said he wanted to ring her neck. (You have to admit, he was easily played into that situation. In his own version of it, anyway.)

Sonny says they then talked the entire day about everything, how the love was gone and he says Cher was “calm and casual.” Sonny says he tried talking to her because he says he knew she didn’t love Bill Hamm. “He was a pawn in her game,” the last “straw to break my back…he was her way out of Sonny & Cher.”

This is all very strident projection because there is no outside collaboration and Cher denies ever wanting to “escape Sonny & Cher,” although she did want to escape the schedule and the loneliness.

Sonny admits he was “also stark, raving mad…the closest I’ve come to real craziness.”

According to Cher there was no conversation. He treated her very coldly when he came back and by then she knew he didn’t love her anymore. She says while she was half asleep Sonny pulled off her wedding ring. (which is very creepy). She says she woke up in the afternoon and Sonny was gone and she knew there was no way she could perform that night. It was then, Cher says, that Sonny sent Chas and their nanny back to L.A., “another of his unilateral decisions.”

Sonny says Cher insisted on her love for Bill during that day-long conversation. Their next showtime was approaching. Sonny says he asked Cher to have Bill come up and they all talked in the dressing room but the “discussion was a futile waste of breath.” Sonny admitted he couldn’t perform until there was resolution to the drama. Their manager had been calling them all day on the phone and leaving notes under their hotel door. At 4 pm, they cancelled the remaining shows that night and for the rest of the run. Unfortunately no one told their opening act, David Brenner, Sonny says, and so he showed up for his cue   at 8 pm.

[It was due to the cancellations that rumors started in the press about Sonny having assaulted Cher. See the Rolling Stone interview of 1973.]

Sonny says, “Denis went off to kill Bill.” (I should watch that movie.)

Sonny says Denis spoke to Cher, saying she wanted to leave town. Dennis agreed it was a good idea. They feared CBS would hear the news. Cher wanted to go to San Francisco with Bill. “Dennis made the arrangements.” He also hired a P.I. to follow her but the P.I. lost Cher at the San Francisco airport.

Sonny says he booked Chas and the Nanny on a plane to L.A. (making it sound like he did that after Cher left town). Sonny says he was “too numb” to function and when he got back to L.A. he stayed in bed depressed for two weeks and got down to 130 pounds.

According to Cher, her exit day happened differently. That day she went walking on the strip alone, but she was sent back into the hotel by autograph seekers. She found Sonny sulking in his dressing room. She asked him for $500 in cash. He gave her the money without saying anything except that America would hate her for breaking them up.

Cher says she left for Paulette and Jerry’s room as a safe hideout. Bill was there getting ready to leave for Texas. It is here, Cher says, when she found out Sonny slept with Bill’s girlfriend in revenge the night before, not from a conversation with Sonny earlier that morning. Cher asked Bill to go to San Francisco with her instead of back to Texas. All she could think of was going to Sausalito. Cher says nothing about Denis Pregnolato arranging anything with Sonny’s blessing. And it’s doubtful she would trust Denis (after Tennis-Lesson-gate). According to Cher is was Jerry Ridgeway who loaned Cher his rental car and he was worried about it, afraid of losing his job. Hamm and Cher then took separate cars from the San Francisco airport but got lost in that fog. Cher knew the P.I. was behind them and they got lost too, she says. They all ended up back at the airport hotel.

But then Sonny says Cher called Denis a day after they left saying she wanted to come home but that she feared Sonny’s reaction. Cher came back to their bedroom but Sonny says they were “strangers, zombies, enemies.” Luckily, Sonny says, they had 54 rooms to spread out in.

In Cher’s version, she says Denis found them at the San Francisco hotel and called to threaten them, saying it would be “really bad for Bill if you don’t come home.”

Cher says within a week they were back filming the TV show. She confirms Sonny looked bad when she arrived home, exhausted. She said he had the demeanor of being beaten and looked gaunt. But immediately she was pulled into a meeting with Irwin, the lawyer, about breaches of contracts and costings of millions.

Sonny says this all happened right before taping the 1972 Christmas show. And that the producers knew but they kept it a secret. At the end of November, Sonny says he went traveling for two weeks to clear his head. He went to France, England, Nassau and Miami but he had no fun. (If only he had only consented to this trip with Cher when she pleaded for it, maybe none of this would have happened.)

In his December 1972 diary, Sonny talks about how they look like a “warm and loving” couple but the situation “felt cold and hateful.” Sonny admits that his next conversations with Cher were about keeping the business together (and that begs the question of why she would agree to that if she was trying to get out of the act). He says he did most of the talking “in a familiar repetition” of past conversations. (So how did he ever know how she felt about anything ever?) He says Cher agreed they were in a “lucrative business” and they agreed to have separate personal lives.

(So either Cher wanted out of the act or she didn’t. It doesn’t sound like she did. She was willing to keep it going.)

A later Sonny diary entry talks about how neither Cher nor Sonny had any kind of family life and that Cher used to worry about that, according to Sonny. “I would tell her we would build our own. Now again I have no family.” Sonny does seem to feel victimized but likes to attribute that to Cher. But it is a sad diary entry, nonetheless. Sonny’s diary gets a bit  melodramatic (understandably): “She’s not mine anymore. Nothing has any meaning.”

Sonny claims Cher was a changed person (too) but that he wouldn’t trade those ten years because “they were the best of my life.” (I do feel Sonny is being honest here but that he has serious blind spots in hindsight.)

Sonny says they each moved into one half of The Big House. Sonny claims they did the same thing “with our money, our daughter and everything else.” (Except, stay tuned, they never did divide the money.)  And, he says, they attempted to separate without disaster. He understands by then that Cher wants freedom. “I thought I was teaching; she thought I was intimidating.” [But then so did the whole band think he was intimidating.]

Cher says she had no money and never did receive her share. Leaving Sonny was losing all the money. (That alone makes you believe she would have stayed if she could). Cher says she was given $5,000 a month (no chump change) while they were separated and a rented condo in Malibu near Moonshadows where she spent a lot of time sleeping. Bill Hamm came to visit there (and you get the sense that here is where she learned what a good relationship could be like) but they weren’t allowed to go out to dinner or to movies and she was never allowed to be seen in the company of other men in public. Sonny had no such stipulations it would seem.

After the Breakup

By the summer of 1973 Sonny says he was no longer trying to get back together with Cher. (Which is a strange thing to say but Cher has reported in the past that there was a period when he was doing that, trying to get back together.)

It seems like pretty soon he moved their secretary, Connie Foreman, into the Sonny wing of the Big House. Sonny mentions Cher didn’t seem upset by this. Sonny calls Connie a former cigarette girl at Pips (that club where Lucille Ball would show up and they would all play backgammon) and I’m reminded here of his violently slapping the cigarette tray into the face of the cigarette girl in their movie Good Times.

Cher says Connie was their assistant and agrees with Sonny. She liked Connie and says Connie would get tired of Sonny’s rules and come over to hang out in Cher’s wing to listen to music and smoke cigarettes.

Cher says she became friends with Sonny again, that they could enjoy each other again. Sonny tells her he thought about throwing her off the balcony back in Vegas and says he would have pleaded insanity. Then getting a book deal and TV show from it. (Yikes!) Cher said living with him made her want to jump off the balcony. They laughed.

Sonny says friendliness on his part was an act “deserving an Academy Award.” Ouch. At home, he says they were two strangers. Sonny says he still saw Bill as her pawn. He thinks the same, he says, about future boyfriends Robert Camilletti and Richie Sambora. Neither of these men have said they felt like pawns and have pretty much only good things to say about their time with Cher (Sambora commenting pretty recently). Gregg Allman’s worst comment about Cher was to say she wasn’t a good singer. (Imagine!) Sonny says Cher “wears men like ornaments.” Then he goes on to admit he went out to party at the clubs after they broke up, “hitting on chicks right and left.” (I think this man has previous sentence amnesia, but we can all see his stripes, right?) Anyway, he says Cher and Bill broke up after several months and she started dating their keyboard player David Paich. Then Bernie Taupin.

This all happened around the time of her hit “Half Breed” and what Cher calls a “grueling summer tour.”

Cher talks about “pianist David Paich,” whose father Marty was their orchestra leader. (Sonny doesn’t mention this.) Cher said this only lasted during the grueling summer tour. Cher says it was during this tour that Cher, Paulette, Paich, the Porcaro bothers, Hungate and Lukather (I will now start calling them Proto-Toto) were hanging out in a playground on the  swings after which Sonny via his loyal guy Denis called each member of the band individually to threaten to break fingers and blow up cars for hanging out with Cher.  The band and even Paulette stopped talking to Cher upon threat of being fired. Only David Brenner would talk to Cher and even he was afraid, according to Cher. But Toto ostensibly could weigh in on this if they would ever admit to working for Sonny & Cher.

So Cher started singing with her back to Sonny. This was around the time of their second Live album at the Sahara in Las Vegas. Cher notes that Sonny’s comments and stories during that show were designed to make her feel guilty. But she maintains that “he was the one who caused it to end.” Cher says she always thought he would come to realize she “was the one who was always there for him, who loved him” and that she knew “he loved me, just not enough to be faithful or kind.”

Sigh. Did he come to realize that?

Sonny says their lawyers did all the real fighting and he moved on thinking about how to survive without S&C.

Cher tells her Lucille Ball story and adds she used Lucy’s lawyer, Mickey Rudin. Sonny calls Paulette “our secretary” and accuses her of spreading rumors that Cher wanted to get back together with him. Cher has Paulette telling Cher “good for you.”

Sonny talks about a “bad” trip to Paris. He doesn’t mention Cher being there but Cher says around this time she went to Paris with Sonny. They stayed at the Raphael hotel and this is where Sonny’s was taking a bath and Cher is telling him modern girls won’t put up with his bullshit anymore. Cher talks about Sonny’s M.O. of gift-buying to placate the cheating. Sonny doesn’t mention any of this.

They go to the 1973 Golden Globes together to give the award for Best Musical or Comedy Series. Cher mentions a fox coat she wore and  multicolored skirt which she says is one of her favorite looks of all time.

Cher talks about Captain Spike Nesmyth, the captured pilot who was a Sonny & Cher fan and the POW/MIA bracelets they wore. Sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher talks about Chastity’s 4th birthday party. [There’s a magazine article depicting one of those birthday parties. I’ll try to dig it up.] Cher talks about going to the 1973 Academy Awards with Sonny in the gold dress to present the award for best song, “The Morning After” from The Poseidon Adventure.

Cher tells the therapist story and Sonny’s interloping. He doesn’t tell this story. Cher admits going to Joe DeCarlo again for friendship and advice. DeCarlo tells her about Sonny’s infidelities with all the womens, including hookers, waitresses and dancers, how he would book an extra room. Women started telling Cher these stories too, saying Sonny claimed he had an open marriage with Cher.

Cher tells the Jack Benny/Johnny Carson party story where she went with Sonny and got kicked out for laughing at Lucille Ball’s irreverent political commentary. Sonny doesn’t mention this story.

Cher talks about feeling liberated and independent and adventurous, dressing how she liked, learning how to shop for food and sign checks. Poignantly she talks about not having to worry about whether she was laughing too loud. The laughing-too-loud thing. This is always a sign of an uneven relationship and I’ve witnessed it with couples within my own family and in song.

One page 214 of the paperback Sonny talks about the Mother Nature skit and the tension on the set. They both talk about this skit. They both agree Cher ad-libed telling Sonny to go fuck himself. Sonny has nobody laughing and the director suggesting they try it again and Sonny saying “not without our lawyers.”

Cher talks about the skit on page 288 (hardback). She said it was a Chiffon Margarine commercial spoof and it was a few days after leaving Sonny. “What’s the secret of life?” Sonny asks. “Go fuck yourself,” Cher responds. She says Sonny collapsed in hysterics and she did too, along with Sonny’s comment “not without our lawyers.”

She says later Sonny called her act of leaving him in Vegas her “Nagasaki moment,” words he had printed for her on a gold dog tag. In disagreement with Sonny (who feels he should get an Oscar), Cher maintains they weren’t acting affection after they separated. “You can’t fake that shit,” she says.

But in any case, they both agreed they could easily be Sonny & Cher professionally. Cher says she liked working with him but didn’t know “how to read him” anymore. They say the exact same thing about each other.

By December of 1973, she was seeing David Geffen.

David Geffen Susses Out Cher Enterprises

Sonny says Cher turned suddenly into “an ice maiden” and was testy to the whole crew, less of a team player, less approachable and kept saying things like “I have to talk to David.” Sonny thought she meant Proto-Toto’s David Paich but it was this producer fellow. The irony of all ironies is this Sonny comment: “I wrote him off as a little wimpy guy.” (First off, it’s totally wrong and second it’s almost verbatim what the mayor of Palm Springs wrote off Sonny as in the 1980s at his first running for mayor). But Sonny quickly admits now he misjudged the man who would become “the most powerful, respected, wealthy and feared man in Hollywood…one of my great misjudgments.” That must be his second biggest misjudgments after thinking he could mistreat Cher for so long and keep a golden rainbow coming out of his ass. (Too much?)

Anyway, Cher says Sonny was uneasy when he found out about Geffen being as smart and powerful as Geffen was, “much more than himself.” Cher starts hanging out A-listers now: Bob Dylan and his wife, Jack Nicholson and Anjelica Houston, Warren Beatty and his girlfriend Julie Christy, Lou Adler.

Cher says it was Sonny who began to change. At work, things had been friendly but he stopped being friendly. Not his goofy fun self on the set. (Someone from the show needs to weigh in here.)

Sonny saw Geffen as in a conspiracy to get Cher a solo CBS show (and solo record and movie deals). Cher denies this. Sonny admits Cher denies this but he believes it anyway. Cher says that Sonny & Cher’s agent pitched the idea to them once at Geffen’s house but that they asked him to leave and never spoke to him again because he was ostensibly Sonny’s friend.

But Geffen was exploring her existing contracts. David and Cher then learned about Cher Enterprises and how Cher had zero votes, rights or stake in the company and was entitled to none of their income over the last ten years. Sonny owned 95% and their lawyer owned 5%. Cher was an employee and she received the noblese oblige of Sonny plus 2 weeks vacation. She also has no way to make money outside of this enterprise without Sonny’s permission.

(Just the name of it sounds demeaning and exploitive.)

Sonny talks about contracts. He says their TV contract had 3 more years. They had just finished year 2. Cher agrees with this. She says she was was locked into the contract for 2 more years. She says she had stayed during the bad times, Sonny’s movie dramas, the tax fiasco and was heartbroken and “so mad” and “thank God I had David.”

They each represent each other as cold. And Sonny, we have seen, has a tendency to project. Not that Cher was probably the best communicator there ever was at this time.

Sonny has Cher saying he and Geffen should get into a room together and whoever wins wins. Cher has Sonny refusing to renegotiate during her attempts to talk it over and being met with Sonny’s cold eyes and his smoking cigars. She had a child to raise, her sister and her mother to worry about, she says. She couldn’t work for nothing.

By January of 1974 Sonny says he is tired of faking a marriage and that Cher was refusing to work anymore “for our corporation Cher Enterprises.” (Our.) A few pages later he says “Cher and I were employed by Cher Enterprises. Cher and I were 50/50 partners. That is not only how the corporation was set up, that is the law of community property in California.”

Then a page later Sonny contradicts himself and says, “when Cher wanted out of her contractual obligations, when she wanted to split Cher Enterprises 50/50, I said no.”

Sonny has the gall to say about himself in the third person, “Cher decided to shoot Sonny in the back.”

Anyway, his reasoning was that he had managed them all those years for nothing. Plus, he feared Cher would step into all those deals he worked so hard to make, leaving him out (just as he was leaving Cher out now). That he did all the backstage work was not an insignificant or untrue claim. Cher admits he did all the heavy lifting behind the scenes. A fair deal would have been to pay him out for what would have been a manager’s salary.

But listen to me, trying to figure a way through for Sonny & Cher.

No biographer of Cher disputes that the contract was 95/5 Sonny and his lawyer. This doesn’t seem like a situation of Cher’s word against Sonny’s. But I suppose former biographers all could have taken Cher at her word and not researched the actual contract.

But here’s the thing: Cher received no money on the corporation’s earnings after its demise, leading us to believe…she did not, in fact, have an ownership stake in it. She finally got The Big House (no small thing but she says she had to buy it from Sonny) and a portion of the publishing royalties off Sonny & Cher songs, which Sonny will soon express disgruntlement about.

Cher says, “Sonny undoubtedly was responsible for making us who we were…[but] he could never have achieved that without my voice….He made me leave.” No Cher without Sonny.  But also, she says, no Sonny without Cher.

And it does sound like Sonny brought about the disruption he insists he feared the most. Sonny says their act had contracts out for 10-15 years (at Caesar’s Palace and on MCA). And, I think, it would have been amazing to see if they could have survived very bigly into the era of MTV. I doubt they would have. But in any case, Sonny says Cher told him she refused to honor the contracts.

Cher did call Fred Silverman and ask him not to pick up the TV show for another season, later insisting to him that she would never leave to do a solo show on an another network (there had been rumors), which is kind of an implicit negotiation to do a solo show on CBS. Cher told him she couldn’t work as an employee with no salary. This was around the time of their opening number “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” and Cher noting that his smile did not quite reach his eyes.

Sonny says, “I was not going to be the one to end it. But Cher refused to work anymore.” (For nothing, he forgets to say.) Two paragraphs later he says, “the week of the final episode of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, I filed for legal separation from Cher. I’d absorbed enough. I wanted it over.”

So much for “I wasn’t going to be the one.” Cher says he filed for divorce on 18 February but I think Sonny is right and that it was legal separation. Some editor should have looked that up as public record?

After the Friday taping, (Cher says it was in January 1974 and everyone was crying, her mom, sister and the crew, but Sonny doesn’t mention it), Sonny says they took separate jets to their final Houston Astrodome concert. Sonny says they earned $150,000 that day. He says they were the biggest, hottest act in the country at that time and they were playing what was the largest indoor venue in America.

The both agree the show was miserable, a rodeo venue that smelled like shit. Cher says it was a working rodeo with Elvis and the Jackson Five on the bill too. This is where her hair got caught in her dress’ zipper and Sonny had to cut it free with the scissors.  Sonny says Cher left the venue without a word to Sonny or their crew and he was left to say all the goodbyes and farethewells. Cher says all the people they worked with were loyal to Sonny.

Sonny says Cher filed for divorce on February 20 and claimed involuntary servitude. Sonny calls her a “characteristic victim” (says the complaining victim) Cher doesn’t dispute the divorce filing and says Sonny countersued for lost earnings and sued Geffen for interfering and asked for a temporary restraining order against him.

Cher says the news was “brutal” against her but Sonny continually complains that he was the one Cher successfully made out to be the villain. At the same time, Sonny was suing Cher for 14 million and Geffen for 13 million. Cher is just suing for divorce and contract freedom but Sonny keeps claiming for Cher it was all about the money.

The Big House, Part 2

Sonny also says Cher changed the locks on the house. But Sonny doesn’t mention that he kicked Cher out first and Cher no longer had the Malibu lease so she was homeless and moved in with David Geffen. (This was the era of Joni Mitchell being there all the time too while making Court and Spark).

Here is where Cher contradicts her own story when she says, “he never wanted that house. It was my dream house…” But back on page 268 (hardback) she says “Sonny wanted the house too.” And he did at least want to keep it from her. But by the time of his own memoir, he never liked that house. Cher was advised to return to the house and she says at that time she did change the locks and Sonny & Connie had to move into the St. Cloud house which “he made me sign over to him.”

In his diary, Sonny says “I have no good feelings left for Cher.” He finds it all confounding because “Cher is not a fighter” and he doesn’t believe Cher and Geffen are in love, that it’s a relationship of convenience and Cher has made him her pawn.” He sees Cher as, and I quote, “either a subservient Geisha girl or a killer.”

Wow.

Cher eventually sells The Big House fully furnished (a few months after Elijah’s birth) at a price “too low” and to a “carpet baron.” But she doesn’t say why she sells it.

Parenting Chas

Sonny says Chastity is confiding in him that she feels neglected because Cher has become a surrogate mom to Tatum O’Neal. Cher barely mentions Tatum O’Neal aside from one dismissive sentence. Cher says she and Sonny are civil when discussing Chas on the phone but Sonny says “Cher, in true passive-aggressive form, forced me to deal with Geffen in order to spend time with Chastity….So I wound up negotiating with Geffen over when I could and could not see my daughter.”

Cher says Chas was friendly with Geffen at first and then something changed and she took Sonny’s view of Geffen. Later,  Cher said, they both decided not to trash each other’s lovers to Chastity (if not in memoirs). Sonny said he applied for full custody, which Cher said “shattered me.” She had taken Chas to Hugh Hefner’s to play in the pool and Sonny used this as the reason. Cher says Hugh Hefner had known Chas her whole life. And it’s true, Sonny even booked Sonny & Cher on his Playboy show and had been pictured as a family at his house. So WTF Sonny.

In the end, Sonny got even less time from the judge than Cher has planned to give him. But they worked out a cordial deal between themselves.

In Chas’ three books, he has not weighed in extensively on this time period.

The Solo Shows, The Settlement & Gregg Allman

Now here is where reading Sonny’s memoir the first time I completely lost confidence in him as a reliable narrator. Sonny claims that in the summer of 1974 Cher announced The Cher Comedy Hour. No other Cher biographies mention this and neither does Cher in her memoir.

Sonny says Cher immediately went to work on a new series and it was “an instant smash,” that she was on the covers of People and Newsweek (it was Time, Cher wasn’t on the cover of Newsweek until the 1980s), and “women embraced her as a role model and everything I knew she was capable of began happening. I had no problem with Cher’s success.”

I actually believe this part. I think in some ways Sonny was Cher biggest fan and her worst friend and lover. And, as a big Cher fan (and a big Sonny & Cher fan), it makes me feel very torn about Sonny.

Sonny continues to lament that Cher cast him as the bad guy and that Cher basically “walked off with the franchise” and with it took away “his whole sense of identity.”

I believe that too.

But here’s where I lose sympathy with Sonny’s  chronology. He says his friends, manager, agent and just general people said ‘look at Cher’s successful solo show. There’s no reason why Sonny Bono cannot have a hit TV show, too.’ So in the summer of 1974 he says he presented a solo show to ABC with the pitch “if CBS was having success with the Cher variety hour…”

Sonny’s show debut was on August 14, 1974. He excerpts his diary to say “I have been knocked down more times…and now I’ll have to be judged all over again.” (No victim here.)

The big problem is that his show premiered and was canceled after 13 weeks in 1974 and Cher’s solo show didn’t even begin airing until February 1975 and this is because Sonny’s lawsuits kept Cher from working on anything new for almost the entirely of 1974. There was the Dark Lady album on MCA, her last album on that label, and some modeling work with Vogue.

So his whole long story is false. Cher’s show did not happen before his. How could he misremember that?

Of course Sonny’s solo show didn’t succeed, although it had the majority of the cast and crew of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour and the same formula. It was just missing that one magical thing that was maybe worth at least 50%, the star power.

Cher said it was “a copy of our show” and had rotating female guests to stand in for her. She expresses sympathy that the network put him in an impossible timeslot at ABC, on Sunday against Kojak and Disney and that she didn’t want him to fail. She says she was backstage with Chas for the first taping of the show.

Sonny says, “It didn’t work for a lot of reasons.” (Another example of Sonny knows; he wasn’t caught not knowing.) “It was the only game in town, so I played it.” (A far cry from ‘why can’t Sonny Bono have a hit TV show like the Cher show that’s only happening in my head.’)

Cher said while Sonny’s show was on the air, CBS announced her new show would air on 8 pm Sunday’s against Sonny’s show which Cher thought was cruel to them both. But his show “was cancelled before mine began.” Which is the truth. And how Sonny could have published a different story is mind-boggling since it was an easy thing for any editor or fact checker to look up in any library’s reference section. (I was doing that in the late 70s, so I know how easy that was.)

This also confirms a childhood memory that I’ve always had that I could never explain, that for a minute the public thought they might have to choose between watching a Sonny show or a Cher show.

Anyway, then Cher tells the Average White Band overdose story.  She said Sonny was furious about it. But he doesn’t mention it in his book.

Sonny laments that at the cancellation of his solo show he was “alone now” and “it was a bitch.” He says by now Cher’s show was in its second season and that the first had done well. (But it hadn’t even started yet.) Connie is gone by the end of 1974 and he’s very down about his situation, says his diary. But then he tells a story about going to David Geffen and Cher’s 1974 Christmas party where he meets Raquel Welch and they leave the party to go to a movie together. They saw The Towering Inferno and left early because they both hated it.

Let’s pause to consider Sonny’s comments about Connie. “I was trying to get Con off my back. The only thing she did well was fight.” He blames the relationship on rebounding. He admits he’s still friends with Cher, (which is why he was invited and went to her Christmas party).

He then tells about his PR man Jay Bernstein (who “was better at launching Farrah Fawcett’s career than mine”). He takes his variety show on the road with Richard Lewis because David Brenner wasn’t available. Later Tim Conway opens for him and they become friends. But the show didn’t do well. He says Cher kept bashing him in the press. He says he’s not the dictator Cher said he was but he never mentions the whole El Primo thing and his own 1960s diary entries about “keeping her in line.”

And interestingly, it’s here where Sonny brings up the big fight they had after going out to see The Dirty Dozen. This is the fight Cher mentions occurring in the 1960s. He said it was their worst and funniest fight. He says the fight was about whether Cher had a killer instinct. Sonny thought she did. Cher didn’t think so. This led to a shouting match where Sonny commanded Cher to let him out and she did and then drove off “leaving me to walk 10 miles home.” His guy Denis picked him up. That was “the extent of his irate machismo she found necessary to criticize.” Oy vey.

In Cher’s version she let him out at Dead Man’s Curve (on Sunset Boulevard) and he was upset that she liked the movie and he accused her of being “sexually frustrated.” Cher attributed the fight in hindsight to Sonny’s tendency to force a riff so he could leave and go out on a date with someone else.

Sonny contends Cher never complained (except he has spent pages telling us that she always complained, that ingrate). He blames her for not communicating her unhappiness to him, (after complaining that she was always telling him she was unhappy). He admitted he knew she hated Vegas. But still Sonny chalks it all up to Cher’s villainization and lies.

He then goes into his own victimization: his ego was shot, he felt sorry for himself. But then he meets the model Susie Coelho in Palm Springs via Jay Bernstein.

He then talks about Cher’s new “peculiar relationship” with Gregg Allman and how “nothing attracted Cher like a mean, tough and potentially dangerous rock and roller.” (Uh…well, Sonny…err…are you describing yourself here too inadvertently?)

Another funny thing is that pages back Sonny says, “Geffen was exactly the kind of man Cher was attracted to—a powerful guy who took charge of her life and made things happen. To me he was a ruthless cutthroat.”

So…yeah. That’s how Cher likes ’em: dangerous and powerful and Sonny. Yeesh.

Cher says she and David Geffen had stopped living together in January of 2025 although they were still dating when she met Gregg Allman at the Troubadour one night.

Sonny and Cher kind of do describe her relationship with Allman similarly though in its “ups and downs.”  Sonny says it was “red-hot” to “non-existent” and that’s not too far from how Cher defines it too. Sonny admits Allman is a “gifted blues man” but also a “coked-out druggie” and a “southern cracker.” He uses the same hyperbole he used about Geffen to say Allman was “one of rock’s most volatile personalities.”

Cher has always insisted Allman was very gentle and sweet. So they disagree about that. But Cher admits “I had never been with a bad boy and he had a reputation as one quintessential bad boy.”

Sonny says Allman was “bent on self-destruction” and mentions the suicide of Jenny Arness, (a topic Cher avoids in her memoir). Sonny reminds us that Cher is not a drinker and was “as antidrug as I was.” He makes fun of her use of the name  “Gregory” instead of Gregg. Sonny thinks there’s some connection between “Greggory” and Cher’s father, John Sarkisian, who Sonny claims Cher did not say goodbye to before he passed away even though her biological dad had “cleaned up by then” because she “never forgave him for deserting her in childhood.” (Cher seems pretty ambivalent about Sarkisian in her memoirs but maybe there’s some kind of psychological connection there.) Sonny says he was happy that the new relationship pushed aside his “nemesis David Geffen.” With Geffen gone, Sonny says the two of them started chatting again and Cher was always asking him for advice.

Cher agrees that she would reach out to Sonny in a crisis and he knew how to handle the press.

Cher says Sonny called her up to invite her to appear on The Tonight Show hosted by George Segal as a surprise guest and they fell into their usual banter. This appearance helped Cher’s bad press around her Gregg Allman troubles. Sonny also helped with Chastity when Cher needed to spend time with Allman in a Buffalo rehab.

“As far as I was concerned, Cher and I were equal partners.” Sonny says he still “resented she was able to go on with her career, capitalizing on our past success and continuing to make millions while I was slogging my way across dime-sized stages for gas money.” That is a great sentence but it’s also ridiculous because he had the chance to keep making money with Cher if he let her actually make money on the act. He says he was 50% responsible for her stardom.

So is he saying he should get 50% of all her earnings in perpetuity? Now he’s all 50% guy.

The divorce breakdown according to Sonny: Cher got the 54-room Big House (although Cher claims she had to buy him out for that). Sonny got the 32-room St. Cloud house, which he says he had been renting out until he needed to move back into it with Connie. Cher was allowed to void all existing Sonny & Cher contracts but in exchange had to pay Sonny $750,000 in cash or work it off performing as Sonny & Cher, a combination of which she did in 1976 and 1977. Also, “she received 50% of all publishing royalties from the songs I wrote, checks she still cashes,” Sonny says as if that’s incredible.

But to think about it, the only money Cher received from 10 years of performing as Sonny & Cher (aside from gifts Sonny gave her when they were together, houses they lived in and shopping she did with their money), was nothing. The company structure put her in debt for 750k (according to Sonny; Cher says it was higher). The only money she ever made for herself from ten years of working as Sonny & Cher was from the publishing royalty agreement in the divorce, the very same one Mary Bono tried unsuccessfully to null and void a few years ago by arguing that a divorce agreement should die with the death of the spouse. Cher ended up having to sue for unpaid royalties (so at some point she stopped cashing those checks) and it’s unclear whether that was before or after Sonny died. He had no will and his estate was divided up between Mary Bono and his four children.

Here are two articles on the Mary Bono lawsuit:

The divorce was finalized on 26 June 1974 and 4 days later she marries Gregg Allman. From Cher we find out this was because she was pregnant but Sonny doesn’t know that yet. Sonny says her marriage and filing for divorce 9 days later was a “public joke.” Sonny says she confided to him in tears that Allman was mostly upset that she worked so much and was “no fun” and “never there.” This tells us more about the situation than we see in Cher’s memoir which kind of hedges around their issues.

Interestingly both Susie Coelho and Gregg Allman get not-nearly the ink you would expect they would as the next Sspouses to follow Sonny and Cher.

Sonny said Allman and Cher would come over and use his pool, which was more private than hers and that Cher would suntan there nude, which shocked Sonny. Sonny says, “Cher had become very liberal.” But then he admits he doesn’t really know her anymore and gets more information about her from People Magazine.

Sonny says Cher’s show took a dive in the ratings. Cher agrees with this and explains what happened. In the beginning Cher was a bigger hit than the Comedy Hour, according to Cher. The premiere had 21 million viewers and the show finally beat out The Wonderful World of Disney, which CBS had been trying and failing to do. But the show also had 2 censors that the Comedy Hour didn’t have, which made work difficult. But during the summer break, CBS played Joey & Dad in her timeslot and it bombed. So when she came back, her ratings fell from 23.3 to 7 and suddenly she was competing with The Six Million Dollar Man (which Sonny did a guest appearance on.) Also, Cher admits, David Geffen had left in aggravation over her relationship with Gregg Allman and without his contacts, they couldn’t get the A-list music acts anymore. Plus doing a show solo was too much.

Reuniting as Sonny & Cher

Sonny says Cher pitched a reboot of the Sonny & Cher show and he was incredulous but that Cher and Denis talked and worked things out. Sonny seems like he did it for opportunist reasons. He said Primtetime Network TV was “the kind of exposure I needed.” He said neither of them had made it solo (except Cher had kinda made it solo and would go on to make it solo, she just hit the first bump in the road). He said their friendship was like American and Soviet spies sitting on a beach; they could kill each other but they liked each other.”

Cher agrees that she asked Sonny back and he “instantly” said yes. She said Sonny negotiated with CBS the new deal and that it allowed Cher to repay Sonny for those cancelled contracts by way of the new show plus “road gigs.” He also had to square the pregnancy situation with CBS but Cher admits that Allman was “otherwise out of my life” at that time. Later, during show opening dialogues, they would mention him from time to time (as if he was backstage). Allman was at that time upset by the show’s press and that Cher was again working with Sonny. He told her he felt “heartbroken” and “made a fool of.”

Sonny talks about the the CBS press conference which he says occurred at Television City. Cher says it was the Beverly Wilshire.(It happened on 4 December 1975).

The new show premiered on 1 February 1976. Cher said it was one of the most watched programs in TV history at that time, up there with Who Shot J.R. (I remember hearing that statistic in other bios too but unfortunately there is not much online about this fact of TV history.) Cher says she thought the show was sharper and more relevant. They lost the mother-in-law jokes. She’s right. The second show is better. She said Sonny persuaded Harold Battiste into becoming their musical director. Cher said there was a lot of discussion about what songs they should sing as divorced people.

During the second show, Sonny said they got along better and he was sympathetic about Cher’s problems with Allman. He said their ratings were in the 20s but then CBS switched their time slot, which is what led to lower ratings and cancellation of the show. “Both Cher and I wanted to continue with the show.”

Cher agrees with this and talks about the last episode with a retrospective of 1960s Sonny & Cher singing “Baby Don’t Go,” which Sonny said he we wrote for her. Cher says they were on the road when they heard CBS wasn’t renewing the show. During the tour Cher said Sonny took pictures of Elijah learning to crawl down hotel hallways (just like Chas). Cher used a lot of Sonny’s photos and footage of Chas and Elijah on her first solo tour for Take Me Home and her Vegas/Monte Carlo shows. She has always always maintained Sonny was a good father and very good to Elijah.

Sonny says the show cancellation freed them to do concerts in huge arenas but Cher hated the road and got bored and sick, depressed and “insular.” She missed Elijah and at the halfway mark called off the rest of the tour and paid Sonny cash. And that was the end of Sonny & Cher, according to Sonny. Cher agrees she cut the tour short and paid her debts from her own pocket. She says she ended up paying him 1.4 million in cash, not $750,000.

Cher says after the tour, Sonny moved to Palm Springs where he would host BBQs and Cher would go sometimes with Chas. Sonny never ate, Cher said, just tasted things. Cher says he went through girlfriends and cheated on all of them. After one breakup he came to Cher tearful and gave her an apology in her kitchen. Sonny and this woman got back together, Cher says, and married and Chas was their bridesmaid. Cher calls the woman “Sarah” which, interestingly, is the name of one of Sonny’s girlfriends on The Love Boat (it’s that Deacon Dark episode where his girlfriend is deaf and he sings a sweet song to her at the end.) But Sonny’s next wife was named Susie.

Sonny says Cher was supportive Susie in Sonny’s life and he blames her for that, too, saying that “given her track record” he shouldn’t’ have listened. He says Susie and him were with each other for the wrong reasons and he was just lonely. (I’ve read Coelho’s book; she has nothing but good things to say about Sonny in it.)

Sonny comments on Cher’s albums around that time, Cherished (“a flop”) and Allman and Woman, Two the Hard Way (failed), and he dismisses her attempt to suppress her name on the Allman album cover as “something wrong” because she “hates to share the spotlight.” (Why would she even do the duet album then?)  Those two albums were probably the nadir of Cher’s 1970s output by they are the only post-breakup Cher albums he mentions: not Half Breed or Dark Lady (both which earned #1 hits), Stars or Take Me Home (which had another top 10 hit).  We’ll see later if he has anything to say about her 1980s comeback records.

Cher says it was her idea to drop her name because she wanted people to focus on the music and not her life in the tabloids.

Sonny says they became neighbors when Cher purchased the “Moorish mansion” (the Egyptian house) on Benedict Canyon Drive. Cher and Susie were friends and Cher would again sunbathe at their pool (nude again). It was here where Sonny first saw Cher’s large butt tattoo of the butterfly. He attributed that again to Cher trying to generate shock value and create controversy so she could then tell critics to “stick it.” Which, Sonny says in a moment of honesty, was “a trick she learned from me and I learned it from Phil Spector.”

Cher talks about going on tour with Allman in Japan and Europe but after he had a relapse she left the tour to return home to do final shows with Sonny in Hawaii. There Sonny had invited Bill Hamm back to the band to “mess with me,” Cher says. But they ended up reconnecting. It was here the Sonny & Cher act ends in Cher’s story. Of her experience with Allman Cher says she has to “learn things the hard way.”

Sonny talks about Chas’ school problems and finding out she was grades behind and this triggers his feelings of neglect (and particularly his neglect of Christy). But he doesn’t yet mention the dyslexic diagnosis.

In Cher’s version of the story, the principal called her to talk about Chas’ emotional problems and bad grades. Cher was shocked because Chas was always “level headed and responsible.” A teacher took Cher aside and told her to get Chas tested for a learning disability and they discovered Chas had dyslexia. Cher then suddenly understood her own learning disability.

And that’s the end of Sonny & Cher in the 1970s in both of their memoirs. Neither of them mention the Mike Douglas Show reunion they did in 1979, but there are two more public reunions ahead: Cher at the opening of Sonny’s La Cienega Italian restaurant Bono and their iconic reunion on Late Night with David Letterman in the fall of 1987. Sonny will still be with Susie Coelho when his restaurant opens but that relationship will end and he will meet 22-year-old college student and restaurant customer Mary Whitaker there. Those two had a 26-year age difference but can you remember anybody ever talking about that? No. Because they didn’t.

I forgot how much Sonny villainizes himself, unintentionally, in his book. Cher is the “killer” and he is the perpetual victim, taking very little responsibility for what he does. But, it all kind of came to roost for him anyway, as it often does. If he had been fun to work with (and if you read Murray Langston’s testimony, maybe only Cher thought he was fun to work with) then he would have continued to work in Hollywood, despite his divorce from Cher. Cher said extensive CBS audience research showed the public liked him. I don’t think it was evident that Cher’s comments to the press were the biggest issue for Sonny and his show-business career. Two record labels requested he stop producing Cher and he didn’t go on to become a TV or movie mogul despite all those meetings. By Sonny’s own admission, Cher wasn’t involved with any of that so how could she have ruined it?

That said, Sonny did a lot of brilliant things for Sonny & Cher and he did turn a raw, anxiety-ridden teenager into a glamourous superstar with an iconic career trajectory. And that’s not chump change either.

This level of detailed Sonny & Cher obsessing was immensely pleasurable. My little 7-yeard old self can die happy now.

Internet Cher Things (All the Things)

The big news from the last week was Cher’s appearance on 30 August 2025 to help her friend Cyndi Lauper finish out her farewell tour at the Hollywood Bowl. Unbeknownst to me, Lauper’s closing song for this tour, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun,” was paired with a set inspired by one of her favorite artists (and mine), Yayoi Kusama.

And not in a million years would I have been able to even drum up a fantasy of a Cher/Kusama mashup. But there it was. And the news went nuts. A sampling:

Oh and Joni Mitchell was also there (!) and SZA, John Legend, Trombone Shorty and Jake Wesley Rogers.

Clips are going up and being taken down as we speak. Apparently the show is being turned into a TV special so stay tuned on that. Fans who were there say Cher said “I’ll see you soon” which they took to mean a new tour. But it could mean anything.

Anyway, I thought it would be a good time to do a news rollup of articles (old and current) I’ve come across over the last few years that have been stuck languishing in my phone’s browser tabs. I had over 200 tabs open as a kind of to-be-read-later list.  Now that I’ve culled out all the Cher articles and dead links (pages and even whole websites now gone), I’m down to 124.

Sigh. I categorized them.

Movies

Let’s start with this young YouTube film aficionado who does video reviews, in Cher’s case her whole oeuvre. Nora! has watched every Cher movie and talked about the experience, all of which is interesting. I mean just hearing how young Cher fans see Cher movies differently than we did in the theater. Also, Nora has interesting thoughts about even movies we don’t enjoy, like Faithful. Spoiler alert: she liked it. I equate this to my thoughts about the movie Suspect. Sometimes there’s a fan out there who sees something nobody else does.

Nora astutely notices (and why haven’t we?) how Good Times is basically Sonny’s movie with Cher appearing only as a minor character. (To answer her befuddlement about this: it’s because he pretty much wrote the thing.) Nora calls out Chastity for having a “nothing story” and “no real plot,” that it’s just basically “Cher walking around and pontificating” which pretty much sums up that movie. But she gives those films redeeming points for Cher fashion.

Nora comments on what an uphill climb it must have been for a pop icon to become a serious actress because “society doesn’t let women be complex and multi-faceted.” Truth.

She finds a “weird looming element of racism that is never explained” in Silkwood. I completely missed this (and can’t even locate it in memory) and so I will watch it again to see what I can see. She calls out Silkwood’s “extreme de-glamming effort” on Cher. She focuses on “the emotional stuff” in Cher’s performances and quotes the L.A. Times in noting Cher’s ability to reveal depths underneath. This is helpful for me when trying to figure out how to write about Cher in her movies, not being a film critic and all.

It’s interesting to see how a younger person scoffs at the whole Cher, Sarandon, Pfeiffer love-lines plot in The Witches of Eastwick (“how three queens fall for Nicholson”) . As Gen-X kids we did not do this. We remembered Jack Nicholson as a sexy younger man and I guess we just started to suspend belief as he aged. Huh. Likewise, the character played by Dennis Quaid in Suspect annoyed her in ways that were novel to me. His audacity. We focused on the improbable illegality of his behavior, but not his audacity with Cher.

It’s great to hear Nora enthuse about Cher’s “career-defining role” in Moonstruck and the balance she struck between comedy and emotion. She calls Cher’s ability to continue with parts after the age of 40 in the 1980s an “astonishing accomplishment.” She expresses surprise at the good reviews of Mermaids because it “seems like the kind of movie male critics love to hate on.” This I think speaks more to the increasingly misogynist manosphere Nora grew up around as opposed to male critics writing in the early 1990s. Asshole Male wasn’t such an institutionalized thing back then. (As Nora says earlier, “Lord, give me strength.”) She rightly notes the shifts in roles Cher gets after Mermaids, how Cher begins to play her own persona. And Nora is right to call the plot of Tea with Mussolini meandering but as a kind of memoir, maybe that was unavoidable. She ends the video in talking about Cher’s unique sense of agency in show business.

Nora also did some great research on Cher’s press at the time of her movie releases and I tracked down some of the articles she sourced and quotes from:

  1. Let the Oscar Sweepstakes Begin! Our Fearless Forecasters Predict Who Will Will, Say Who Really Should (Washington Post, 9 April 1988) – I’ve always said Cher is not as popular in Los Angeles (her hometown) as she is in New York. I take that knowledge just from having lived in both places and attended multiple Cher concerts in both places at different venues (including the Broadway musical). The difference in enthusiasm is palpable, my favorite NYC overheard quote being “That Cher! I just love her!” L.A. is, ironically, too snobby for Cher. This article explains, for one, how the best movies rarely win Oscars. It’s a great overview of how the Oscars really work behind the scenes. It also articulates why Cher always gets snubbed by L.A. (and double the irony, she didn’t this particular year): “But, again, the overwhelming grass-roots response to “Moonstruck” — and Cher’s own fairly heavy media barrage — has all but eclipsed the early positive feeling for Hunter. Also, with “The Witches of Eastwick,” “Suspect” and “Moonstruck,” this is thought to be Cher’s year — especially since she was snubbed in 1985 (remember the Spider Woman dress?), when she was left off the list for Mask. Speaking of that dress, the only possible fly in the ointment here is that Hollywood is not really crazy about Cher. Yes, they think she has talent (finally). Yes, they respect her drive and determination to break through as an actress. But the sentiment is that she is too independent, too outspoken, too, well, tacky. They’d much rather give the award to Meryl Streep or Glenn Close, because even if they’re playing bums or psychos, those perpetual Oscar-baiters still have class, taste and legitimate acting credentials — all the things that appeal to Oscar’s sense of snobbery. And all things that Cher gloriously lacks.” And all which seems very rock and roll to me but oh wait…she’s usually snubbed there too.
  2. The Cher Conundrum: The Oscar Winner/Pop Diva/Exercise Goddess Talks About Acting, Relationships, Being Fortysomething and Other Serious Stuff” (Los Angeles Times, 3 November 1991) – This is a great article to follow the preceding because it further underscores how Cher is treated in L.A. by reporters who are just not that impressed. This is a particularly tough interview that pushes back on almost everything Cher says particularly about why she isn’t making more movies, and the conclusion of the piece seems to be that it’s due to a perfect storm between parts Cher turned down, difficulty with a few directors (Mask, Suspect and Mermaids), the infomercials (which historically have taken the most heat on this issue), and the fact that Cher just didn’t love the process of making movies. The interview then gets into comments about difficulties Cher was having with her mother (Georgia situations which occasionally used to show up in interviews but surprisingly were all but missing from the memoir last year). The article also misspells the name Sonny. Oy.
  3. “Cher: ‘Women have always been sex objects and always will be’” (The Guardian, 7 November 2013) – I struggled on whether to put this in movies or music because it talks about the Closer to the Truth album and the legacy of “Believe” but also about the movie Burlesque. And it even occurred to me to consider what she was wearing for the interview: sweats or jeans (movie interview) or leather jacket, fishnets, tiny skirt and biker boots (music interview). But that felt reductive. And the comments about Burlesque were what Nora was referring to in her review.
    More movie articles from my phone:
  4. 10 Powerful Movie Quotes That Deserve More Recognition” (Screen Rant, 17 August 2025) – and the quote discussed is “Everything Is Temporary. That Don’t Excuse Nothin’.”
  5. The best singers turned actors of all time” (The Week, date unknown) – The article doesn’t really say why. Just that these people have skills in both areas. And that this is rare.
  6. Cher rejected Eric Roth’s biopic script” (Film Stories, 1 March 2024) – More news than scholarship but hey, it was hanging out in my phone. All I will add is that there are music stars and there are film stars and then there are films about music and film stars.
  7. 7 Things You Didn’t Know About ‘Mask,’ Cher’s 1985 Breakthrough Film” (Remind, The Home of Nostalgia, 8 March 2025) – and yeah there were some things in the article I did not know.
  8. Guardian writers on their ultimate feelgood movies” (The Guardian, 22 July 2025) – In a list that begins with Big Night, Rushmore and Amélie, I assumed Cher’s title would be Moonstruck would be the listed movie and was painfully wrong on that assumption. Here’s the link to the article’s full review of Burlesque by Guy Lodge where he agrees was a “less-than-seminal 2010 musical…a film with precisely zero complexities to unparcel, that exerts a strangely forceful hold on me just the same.” Also of note is the inclusion in this list of The Towering Inferno, which sticks in my mind because in Sonny’s book he talks about taking Raquel Welch to that movie on a date (after they met at a Christmas party hosted by Cher) and that they both agreed to leave early because they thought it was a terrible movie.
  9. While I was putting this together, I found another good one: “Cher movies: 15 greatest films ranked worst to best” (Gold Derby, 17 May 2025) – they get the top four right.

Music

  1. Dark Lady by Cher Dollmation (2022) – very cool dollcreation.
  2. Texas judge blocks Ten Commandments in public schools with epic ruling that quotes Sonny & Cher, Kurt Vonnegut and Billy Graham” (The Independent, 20 August 2025) – Wow.
  3. Top 10 Sonny & Cher Songs” (Classic Rock History, 2020) – top 4 are good. “It’s the Little Things” should be higher. A few factual errors.
  4. Top 10 Cher Songs of All Time” (Classic Rock History, 2025) – Odd list. I don’t even think #10 is Cher’s best Diane Warren Cher song (the subject matter was already handled better by Elvis Costello, for one). “Take Me Home” at the top but no “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” or “Bang Bang”? Tsk tsk.
  5. Cher’s 30 Greatest Songs–Ranked!” (The Guardian, 18 October 2018) – a good interesting list that goes through all the years and all the things and puts “Gypsies” up on top.
  6. Cher’s 10 greatest songs ever, ranked” (Smooth Radio, 20 May  2025) – while I was compiling this list I found another song list.
  7. The 150 Greatest Albums Made by Women, Shocking Omissions: The Resilient Reinvention of ‘Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves” (NPR, 20 September 2017) – the album “was written to showcase and cultivate her signature contralto and the title track became her first No. 1 hit on Billboard Hot 100” (as a solo artist). “It even scored her a Grammy nomination for Best Pop Vocal Performance” (losing to Carol King’s Tapestry). The song “presented a darker, more powerful Cher, whose strength lies in her embodiment of the character.” Even Cher’s dislike of the song does not deter this writer (Désiré Moses), who said, “that’s exactly the sentiment that makes Cher, well, Cher.” Right! We’re under no obligation to agree.
  8. It Has Stood the Test of Time: 1971, The Greatest Year in Music” (The Guardian, 22 May 2021) – Cher’s album or song is not in this article but it’s a good one to read after #7 above because it was one of those unforgettable songs of 1971.
  9. In Praise of Cher, the Self-Proclaimed Betty White of Rock and Roll” (Salon, 29 May 2021) – This one is by Annie Zaleski, the same rock journalist who did the write up for Cher’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee program essay and this year’s picture bio, I Got You Babe, A Celebration of Cher (which I still need to blog about). Great writing as always, “Although Cher is often viewed through the lens of a comeback narrative — among other things, she had to extricate herself from a bad business relationship with her late ex-husband, Sonny Bono, as well as climb back from solo career nadirs — this has softened into her being positioned as a beacon of resiliency.”
  10. The Number Ones: Cher’s ‘Believe’” (Sterogum, 4 July 2022) – “Less than a minute into her improbable comeback smash, Cher shatters. The moment happens when she sings the line ‘I can’t break through.’ On the word “can’t,” Cher’s voice atomizes, breaking into a billion tiny little shards, before coming back together. She sounds like a glitching-out robot, or like a kid singing into a fan. All throughout ‘Believe,’ her first #1 hit in a quarter-century, it keeps happening. Cher’s voice falls to pieces, and then it resolves.”
  11. Cher’s secret pop history: The massive hits pop icon sang backing vocals on” (Gold Radio, 13 August 2025)
  12. Cher Sells Range of Music Assets to Irving Azoff’s Iconic Artists Group” (Music Business Worldwide. 2 August 2023) – “Cher is the fifth-ranked female artist with the most Billboard US Hot 100 charted singles….Cher is one of the world’s best-selling music artists. Launching her career in the 1960s as part of Sonny & Cher, the superstar made unprecedented strides in what had long been a male-dominated industry. Cher has sold more than 100 million records. Her three-year 325-show world Farewell Tour from 2003 to 2005 played to more than three million fans and became the most successful tour ever by any female artist.”
  13. Cher On Making Her First Holiday Record” (Billboard, 6 October 2023)
  14. Cher Talks New Christmas Album” (People, 11 October 2023)
  15. Cher, 77, on her six-decade career: ‘I’m some sort of freak’” (New York Post, 20 October 2023) – NYC loves Cher. “…when it comes to taking on Mariah Carey for Christmas queendom: ‘I’m not gonna take over that spot,’ she said. ‘I’m kind of out of my league there.'”
  16. Cher’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Performance Interrupted” (Entertainment Weekly, 23 November 2023)
  17. Cher Scores No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart in Seventh Decade” (Billboard, 30 November 2023) – This article is in my phone because I sent it to my brother last week after my sister-in-law sent me a Cher drawing from the Canfield Ohio Fair and I asked what the art category was and my brother said “has-beens.”
  18. Cher’s Christmas Album Tops the Charts” (NPR, 4 December 2023)
  19. Cher is Heading to the Metaverse with ‘Christmas’ Roblox Event” (Billboard, 8 December 2023)
  20. 25 Years Ago, Cher Released a Song That Would Change the Sound of Pop Music” (NPR, 19 October 2023)
  21. Should Cher Have Cancelled Her own ‘Offensive’ Song?” (The Telegraph, 5 September 2024)
  22. Rock Hall Inductee Exhibit: From Cher’s glamour to Frampton’s guitar” (Axios Cleveland, 11 October 2024)
  23. Cher facts: Songs, age, films, husbands and children of the Goddess of Pop” (Gold Radio, 23 October 2024)
  24. Miley Cyrus’ Bright, Effervescent Cover of Cher’s “Believe” Is Vocal Nirvana” (NBC, 21 October 2024)
  25. Decades Before Kellyoke, Cher Covered a Dazzling Range of Songs on Her Weekly Show” (Billboard, 30 September 2024)
  26. Cher Returns Half Of Her Career Hits To The Same Billboard Chart” (Forbes, 27 November 2024)
  27. The One Song Cher Couldn’t Live Without” (Far Out, 18 January 2025)
  28. I’m Not a Cher Fan:  why Cher desperately wanted to be like the Eagles” (Far Out, 9 February 2025)
  29. My own Cher interview with Robrt Pela on KJZZ (NPR Phoenix) – of course I kept this in my phone.

Concerts & Stage

  1. Michael Keaton’s disastrous stint as Cher’s opening act: ‘It was death‘” (Far Out, 10 November 2024) – this was interesting.
  2. Cher and share alike: three actors star as the singer in musical that turns back time” (The Guardian, 20 April 2022) – review of the UK musical…still in my phone. There’s an interesting video in the article about the creative team for the show.

Style and Beauty

  1. Cher at Home: The Goddess of Pop’s Domestic Life in 22 Photos” (Architectural Digest, 15 August 2025) – I had this bookmarked twice. The first version of the article was only 15 photos apparently.
  2. Inside Cher’s Stunning Malibu Mansion” (Show Biz Cheat Sheet, 5 January 2022) – “Every day when I wake up and look out my bedroom window I’m never not amazed.”
  3. Sonny & Cher’s former home rentable from Airbnb for allegedly around $600 a night.
  4. Cher’s 31 Most Iconic Looks of the ’70s, From Dazzling Dresses to Bold Bodysuits” (InStyle, 26 June 2025) – There’s a 1960s outfit in the list and at least one from the 1980s. Sigh.
  5. Cher’s 10 Best Looks of All Time, Hand-Picked by Bob Mackie” (Variety, 20 May 2021) – Too bad we didn’t see that unicorn outfit. And interesting he puts in the duct tape TBT-fit in his list considering…
  6. Designer Bob Mackie Didn’t Want Anyone to Know He ‘Had Anything to Do’ With Cher’s Iconic Bodysuit” (US Weekly, 26 January 2025)
  7. Cher and Bob Mackie on Over 60 Years of Iconic Looks” (Harper’s Bazaar, 11 October 2024) –  “For the past six decades, Cher has been living in our collective minds rent-free.”
  8. Turn Back Time Like Cher with Her 5 Beauty Secrets” (Women’s Health, 26 June 2021) – There’s a sign-in wall. I never did see the five secrets.
  9. Cher’s Take on The French Manicure Features a Glitzy Detail” (Marie Claire, 25 October 2023)
  10. 77-Year-Old Cher Has Eaten Like a Blue Zoner for 30 Years. Is That Her Secret?” (VegNews, 26 September 2023)
  11. Bryan Adams photographs Cher, Grimes and Iggy Pop for Pirelli calendar” (The Guardian, 5 August 2021) – Remember that happened??
  12. Cher is Inducted Into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Leather Platforms at the 2024 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony” (Yahoo! Entertainment, 19 October 2024) – There were plenty of seen-in-that-outfit news stories in the last few years, but this is the only one I left in my phone.
  13. Cara Delevingne, Cher and Jodie Turner-Smith Celebrate Burberry Flagship Reopening” (Variety, 23 October 2024)

Food

  1. Cher’s Mom’s Cheesecake Is Impressively Easy” (Parade, 2 December 2023) – but this review links to a non-existent Allrecipes page. Even allrecipe’s own article about it has vanished. But another site has archived it so…. I’ll be blogging about this later after I make it for the Cher food page. Another mention I just found, “The Heartwarming Story Behind Cher’s Favorite Cheesecake Recipe” (Mashed, 26 November 2023)

News & Tabloid 

  1. Cher Mourns Ex Husband Gregg Allman” (Rolling Stone. 27 May 2017) – Yup. still open in my phone.
  2. Queen Elizabeth Death: Cher Appears to Refer to the Queen as a Cow” (All over the press, 9 September 2022) – Well, they are little emojis and hard to see clearly for the elderly. I’m sure there is someone in the colonial world who was calling the Queen a cow; it just wasn’t Cher. Cher’s rebuttal.
  3. Cher Posts Thirsty New Pic of New 30-year-old Boyfriend and…whoa” (Queerty, 24 November 2022)
  4. Cher Relists Iconic Malibu Mansion with a $10 Million Price Cut for $75 Million” (People, 4 April 2023), A.D. version (21 March 2023) – Why does this house keep going on and off the market?
  5. Cher Opens Up About Her New Cherlato Business: ‘It Was A Labor Of Love’ “- Remember Cherlato, the new perfume(s), Sanctuary, Aquasentials? You gotta take advantage of these Cher ventures when they come up because they disappear fast. (I have a few regrets.)
  6. Cher “Only” Averaged $6 Million Per Year Throughout Her Career, But It All Adds Up” (The Things, 24 September 2023) – Only? wtf.
  7. Celebrities Partying in the ’70s: Photos” (Esquire, 10 January 2023) – I’m sorry, any list of 1970s debauchery that excludes a photo of Margaux Hemingway (particularly at Studio 54) just isn’t worth its margarita salt. This exact photo below was indelibly etched into my childhood imagination forever as illustrating precisely what 1970s debauchery was…the drink between the legs, the facial expression…
    Whenever I try to pose debauchery, as unconvincing as it is (and this is one of my favorite Mary Tyler Moore Show quotes that I can relate to: “I might not have been around, but I’ve been nearby“), this is the pose I attempt.
  8. Cher hired men to kidnap troubled son Elijah Blue Allman from NY hotel as he tried to save marriage” (New York Post, 26 September 2023) – Only the family knows about all the things in this story but Cher being vindicated this summer is not so happy news.
  9. Cher’s son Elijah Blue Allman responds to conservatorship filing: ‘I am well, and able’” (NBC Los Angeles, 29 December 2023)
  10. See Photos of Cher with Her Sons Chaz Bono and Elijah Blue Allman Through the Years” (People, 28 December 2023) – Some sites tried to focus on the positive aspects in their capitalizing on that story.
  11. Cher Says She’s Living ‘in the Moment’ with Boyfriend: ‘It’s Never Too Late’ to Find Love” (People, 11 October 2023)
  12. While looking for the link above, I found this one: “Cher Says Younger Boyfriend Alexander ‘A.E.’ Edwards Doesn’t Get ‘Most of My References’” (People, 24 October 2023)
  13. Cher, Who Turns 78 Today, Says She’ll Celebrate By “Putting My Pillow Over My Head and Screaming”” (Marie Claire, 20 May 2024)
  14. Kevin Costner Sits Next to Cher at SNL50 After His Epic Reaction to Her Recent Performance at Radio City Music Hall” (People, 16 February 2025) – Kevin Costner sits next to Cher…and it’s news.

Two takeaways here. One, there are many more news stories out there than any one mere Cher scholar could keep up with.

And two, the categories of this list are a good study itself in demarking the areas of Cher’s cultural influence (in real time surfing the Internet). And the spread of articles across each category is telling in where the most interest seems to rest.

Although I would correct that in saying the articles in the movie section are the most laudatory, so even though that category is small in number the section is still pretty packed with cultural value.

Memoir vs. Memoir Part 2: the 1960s

This is the second blog post where we compare Sonny and Cher’s respective memoirs, And the Beat Goes On and Cher, The Memoir (parts one out now). In Part 1 we looked at how the books were organized and how they each talked about family history and childhood.

Now we’ll look at their lives together in the 1960s. Fair warning, this is going to be looong. Often when I start a blog I think, should this be an official Cher Scholar page or a blog? For instance, this is too long for a blog post but it also doesn’t rise to the level of a permanent page.

Oh crap. It’s even longer now.

Let’s get starting. First, reading these books side-by-side really shows the unusual complexity of this relationship. The second read, I feel Sonny is not as cold and calculating as I remember (although he is often factually wrong and rationalizing). He does some mea-culpas, especially when he’s about to tell a story where he’s going to look bad or sexist. These two disagree on many more “facts” than I thought they would and not over things you’d assume (like fights) but over who enjoyed what and when things even happened, like big important things, like their legal wedding.

I had to remind myself Cher is remembering her life back from the age of 77 in 2024 and Sonny, with the help of a diary, was remembering back from the age of 56 in 1991. Some of the disagreements are solely between them. We’ll never know what the true answer is if there even was one (what they said to each other in private moments). Then there are the disagreements maybe colleagues or family could resolve. And then there are those discrepancies anyone could have easily be researched and verified (like the name on a record label). Those are the most mind-boggling disagreements.

But it’s fascinating to me that for the most part they tell the same stories, they both think the same stories are important and life-defining but maybe they each remember different details about it. Aside from that it is interesting to note which crucial stories each one leaves out of their timelines (Cher doesn’t tell the “Laugh At Me” story and Sonny doesn’t say a word yet about Carol Kaye’s famous bass line).

We have to remember these are two separate people living separate but intertwined lives. Sonny is not perfect (and is often unlikable in Cher’s book and Cher is often unlikable in Sonny’s tale) but neither of them ever rise to the level of a big, bad villain.

The pages  dealing with how Sonny and Cher met up through the end of the 1960s were pages 57 to 178 in Sonny’s paperback book and pages 124-240 in Cher’s hardback book.

The Meet Cute
Sonny describes their “meet cute” with those words, like it was a RomCom. I was shocked by this. I only just learned the term “meet cute” from Substack and here Sonny was using it back in 1991! And then Cher uses the very same term in her memoir. Where the hell have I been?

It was November of 1962 and Sonny says they met at Aldos, “an Italian restaurant.” Cher correctly identifies it as a coffee shop above a radio station. It was Cher, Red and Melissa as a group meeting Sonny.

Sonny describes Cher as “gorgeous” and Cher comments on Sonny’s “amazing smile,” his beautiful hands and that he was wearing a black mohair suit and a mustard shirt with a white collar and cuban boots. Sonny thinks Cher had “character” but was “unreadable.”

They both mention Cher’s comment about Cher admiring Sonny’s wearing “black on black” but in Sonny’s version, Cher says this at the coffee shop and in Cher’s version she tells this to Sonny later when they go dancing.

Cher remembers that they went to the Red Velvet Club right after meeting at the coffeeshop and that Sonny was more interested in Cher’s friend Melissa (who was actually gay they both tell us). But in Sonny’s version they all four went to Club 86 (a lesbian club) the next night and it was Melissa and Cher poking fun of the boys by taking them there.

Their Past Histories
Sonny says Cher had been working at See’s Candy Store. Cher correctly identifies his first pseudonym as Don Christy (the pseudonym he muffed in his own history).

Sonny’s Apartment
“It wasn’t long” (Cher), three weeks (Sonny) before they ran into each other again when Cher spotted Sonny moving in to his apartment at the “sprawling complex” (Sonny) at Franklin and Vine in Los Angles. They both tell a story about looking through the windows of their respective apartments and seeing each other. After hearing about Cher’s living situation woes, Sonny offers to let her move in with him. “No funny business” (according to Sonny) but Cher has Sonny saying, “I don’t find you particularly attractive.” Sonny doesn’t mention this. He insists that front the beginning he felt something for Cher. He says she was gorgeous, “flawless except for a big nose, which I thought gave her character, something perfect-looking women lack,” and that she was statuesque, coquettish, alluring, streetwise, had an “intoxicating aura,” magnetism and “incredible strength” and that he was “already deeply smitten.”(Lots of good adjectives there.)

Sonny talks about Cher’s chronic fears how she needed to have a TV on all night to sleep and how hard it was for him to plug the TV into the bedroom for her because there was no outlet. Cher mentions needing the TV on all night too and that she was full of phobias, one being that she was afraid of silence. Cher says their relationship was like brother and sister/father and daughter at first.

Cher tells the bathing-suit story, that Sonny’s face was “crestfallen” when he saw her shape and then says, “my kind of body wasn’t in style yet.”  “God, you’re skinny,” she remembers him saying. Sonny mentions nothing about this or the other women he was dating while Cher first lived with him.

They both tell the story that Cher lied about her age and said she was 18 and then 17 but was really 16.

Georgia
I think where the memoirs probably differ the most is in their depiction of Cher’s parents, John and Georgia.

I don’t know if Sonny was too hard on Georgia or if Cher glossed over a lot. Cher admits her mother once bought her new clothes and then returned them in a fit of anger and Sonny tells this story as one of the stories about how Georgia was a less than great mom. Sonny describes her as a “pretty party girl” who “measured success by men and cars” and was very competitive with Cher. Cher glossed over their periods of not-talking or Georgia not talking to Cher as things she just can’t remember.

Although allegedly Sonny and Georgia got along off and on (even after the divorce), Sonny does not have much nice to say about Georgia. And his comments are mostly in defense of Cher. It’s possible he was upset with Georgia again when he was writing his memoirs. But you also get the sense that Cher has left a bit of drama out of hers. By her own admission, she could go long periods without speaking to her mother and this was all really vague in her memoir.

Of Georgia Sonny says, “she defined the phrase ‘a real piece of work.’” He admits she was “striking” and “beautiful” and had the attitude of a star.

He pulls no punches: “Motherhood wasn’t high on Georgia’s list of priorities. She liked men, parties, fast cars, and fancy restaurants. She preferred the high life. That she had a daughter, Cher, who turned heads on her own was almost too much for her to handle. There was room for only one beautiful woman in her life—Georgia. That explains the volatility of her and Cher’s relationship. It explains why Cher was so rebellious and anxious to get out of her mom’s house that she dropped out of school after the tenth grade and set out on her own. It was a long time before I heard Cher say anything nice about her mother.”

Wow. Cher doesn’t really take it to the level of volatility.

Another thing completely different is that Sonny says Cher’s biological dad worked for them when they were on the road as road manager. I vaguely remember a story Cher told about her Dad working with them and then trying to sell pictures of himself with Cher and Chastity to the press to support his drug habit and this is how Cher became estranged from him yet again. Sonny says her father died with him and Cher died not talking. Cher says nothing about this. Her comments about John Sarkisian are not terrible but not particularly fatherly either. More bemused and annoyed. She might mention his death and those later-day circumstances in her next memoir, when he dies.

Early Love
Sonny says their relationship was all a tease for the first few months until a kiss on the couch occurred after a conversation about Cher’s lesbian friend, Melissa. Cher doesn’t mention this, but recounts a significant kiss with him after seeing the movie The Balcony. This was after their forced separation by Georgia. They both tell this story of Georgia trying to separate them. Cher says it wasn’t until she was whisked off to Arkansas that Sonny began to have feelings for her.

At first, they slept in twin beds. How Sonny could have been such a ladies man with twin beds, I’ll never understand. But anyway, Cher says she would get scared and was allowed to crawl in bed with Sonny but he would say, “Don’t bother me.” Sonny says he didn’t “make a move” until one night he got into her twin bed.

They both agree this early time was some of their fondest memories of the relationship. Sonny recounts it as “two lost kids found direction in each other” and says somewhat poetically, “I wanted to be the boy who walked the fence to impress the girl. And Cher believed I could do that.”

Cher tells stories of doing art projects with Sonny and acting like kids.

Sonny mentions that their relationship was not very physical or sexual, but he keeps getting Cher pregnant somehow. The both talk about the pain of three early miscarriages which began before they started recording together. Cher admits she “went into herself” after those miscarriages. Sonny says they was hard on him, too, and because they couldn’t talk through it, Cher being so withdrawn. They both wanted to have children together. The first miscarriage was particularly heartbreaking for them and scary. During a later miscarriage, Cher says she was out shopping with her friend Joey when problems started and that she had the miscarriage in their bathroom. Sonny was at a Mohamad Ali fight that night, Cher says, and she spent the next day in the hospital. Cher doesn’t mention a concert date in Minneapolis that Sonny was obligated to perform without her or, according to Sonny, the promoter would sue. Sonny tells the story and how horrible he felt about it. “Shitty” he says. Cher said each miscarriage was worse than the last and she dreaded talking to her friends about them, seeming to support Sonny’s theory that she withdraws when in pain.

They both talk about their non-legally-binding bathroom wedding. Cher says their rings were from a souvenir shop on Olivera Street. Sonny says they were from and Indian souvenir shop at Sunset and Vine.

Sonny describes Cher as often very withdrawn and elusive. He says she would go into a “black hole” for days. But also that she was smart instinctually, just lacked education, poise and confidence. He says her only job had been at the candy store. (He either forgets or doesn’t know about Robinson’s department store.) He says she didn’t become the independent, “who gives a damn” woman until after their divorce, after she continued to work on herself. But then Cher calls Sonny the most private person she’s ever known. “He hid so much of himself.” Cher says that after the very beginning, “he never asked much about me.” She feels he became less and less interested in her as a person and that she started to feel like a shadow. Sonny said Cher was “a tough read”, “impossible to read,” that there was a pattern of her not wanting to talk to him. He says Cher had “the grace, mystery and independence of an ally cat.”

They both agree Cher could dance. Cher says Sonny got jealous of the fact she was a better dancer and didn’t let her go out dancing anymore. Sonny says, “people were always paying compliments to Cher about her dancing.” Sonny admits he was insecure.

Cher remembers every house they lived in, the style and sometimes décor (and sometimes about Sonny’s decorating skills). Sonny mentions a few, but not each one.

Hero Worship
Cher admits she stared to hero worship Sonny but the feeling wasn’t mutual. Sonny says “there was no question that Cher had stars in her eyes, [about Sonny] but for the life of me, I didn’t know what she had in her head.”

Christy Bono
Cher contends that Sonny was a great Dad with Christy and that she visited once in a while and they would all hang out together. Sonny laments often in his book that he was not a good Dad with Christy and that he didn’t give her enough of his time. He says this over and over again.

Specialty Records
They both tell a story or two about Little Richard and the day Sonny brought home the Cadillac. They both mention the crappy Chevy Manza Sonny was driving. Sonny talks about creating the song “Needles and Pins” with Jack Nitzsche and having Jackie DeShannon and The Searchers record it.

Working With Phil Spector
They both have a “working with Phil Spector” section. Cher says he wasn’t “unstable yet” but alternatively moody and funny. “You had to read the room,” Cher says and that if he was mad he would act like he didn’t know you. Sonny confirms this (in his story about the end of their working relationship). Cher says she could give as well as she got with Phil Spector and that this could irritate Sonny (who was the only one of them who was officially employed there). Cher claims Spector told Sonny that she “was funny and showed spirit.” In Sonny’s version, Spector and Cher had “no chemistry” and that Spector was jealous of Sonny’s relationship with Cher.

Sonny starts his Spector session by saying he wanted Spector to produce Cher. “I was convinced that this skinny teenage girl with bad skin, a big nose and an unusually deep voice was star material.” Is he being ironic? No, I think he’s serious. But what happened to “gorgeous”? Sonny spent more time with Spector than Cher did.  Whenever Spector was lonely, it seems he would call Sonny to hang with him in silence. And Sonny alludes to “dark and troubled thoughts,” a “troubled mind,” “odd behavior” and “an explosive temper.”

Sonny says Phil Spector called him his “funk.” Cher says Spector never considered Sonny much of a singer and called “Cher, Sonny, Gracia, Fanita and Darlene” collectively his “funk element.” Who is right here? Maybe Darlene Love could weigh in on this one. I have a feeling I know what she’s gonna say.

Speaking of which, Sonny and Cher both agree that the only person Phil Spector took crap from was Darlene Love, who Sonny says had “the balls of a buffalo.” But only Sonny talks about how racist Phil Spector was to his own wife Ronnie Spector, the reported separate toilets and dinnerware he made her use at home and how he locked her in her bedroom for days. Sonny says in public he lavished her with attention but not in private.

They both tell the same story about leaving for a hamburger one day without Spector’s permission but in Cher’s story Sonny wasn’t with them and was just as angry when they returned. In Sonny’s version, he took the girls and it was Spector who was furious.

Sonny mentions the Wrecking Crew but not by that name (the documentary which coined the term hadn’t come out for decades yet) but Cher calls them that.

They both talk about recording “You’ve Lost that Loving Feeling” (Cher calls it a “once in a lifetime song.” and the time Leon Russell came in drunk and belligerent which was a showstopper at the time because he was normally so quiet and shy.

Early Sonny & Cher
They both agree that Cher was terrified to sing alone. Sonny says she would cry if asked to do a solo and would wilt (his word) when asked to sing. Cher doesn’t dispute this. She says her voice would get locked up from stage fright.

The both tell the story of Sonny finding Sonny’s cheap, broken piano. Cher has him finding it at a pawnshop for $85 and “I still have that ugly thing.” Sonny talks about a $100 pawnshop diamond ring he found for Cher but not a piano at a pawnshop. Sonny says the $50 piano came from a used furniture store. But then Sonny says it was the “85-dollar piano” when he introduces the song “I Got You Babe” on both of their Live albums.

One: “7 years ago they had three things: an $85 dollar piano, a philosophy and each other.”

Two: This is in 1973 and by this time they are separated but not divorced. They are still working on the TV variety show together and are publicly together but they are living in separate wings of The Big House. In this second intro, it’s “ten years ago” and now they had a brass bed Sonny mentions (from a junk store or a drug store). Cher talks about this bed in her memoir.  It was from an A-frame house they rented on Sycamore Trail behind the Hollywood Bowl. The shower leaked and the rug “was kind of hatchet,” Cher says. The bed was from a secondhand store and they thought at first it was an iron bed. But it was just filthy and when they started cleaning it together Sonny said, “Cher, I think this is brass!”

“Excited, we ran out and bought about twenty boxes of steel wool Brillo pads, scrubbing it all night long until it was gleaming. That damn bed was brass and it was beautiful.” Sonny probably invokes it here to remind Cher of the talismanic power of this lucky object  and the excitement of their early romance.

Cher says Phil Spector didn’t think Cher had a commercial voice. She said Sonny liked the movie Cleopatra and decided on their first moniker should be Caesar and Cleo. Sonny agrees with this story. Cher said she cut his hair into that Caesar style. She said Sonny learned from Spector that b-sides should be instrumental numbers with silly titles so as not to detract from the a-side. And that Sonny inserted the “corny dialogue” in their version of “Love Is Strange.” The b-side was “String Fever” by S. Christy. Arranged by Jack Nietzsche. Sonny talks about recording “The Letter” (which Sonny says “bombed…our families didn’t even buy it”) and “Love is Strange” with Harold Battiste arranging. This was late 1963, Sonny says ashe talks about the “bare-bones” record making he learned from Spector. They both talk a bit about Sonny’s friendship with Jack Nietzsche.

Cher talks about their early gigs on the “DJ circuit” at rolling rinks and bowling alleys looking like Dick and Dee Dee or April and Nino. Very clean cut. Sonny is more specific: their first gig was a roller rink; their second was a bowling alley; there was no third gig.

They both agree Sonny wasn’t a genius songwriter but Sonny wrings his hands over this more than Cher does. Sonny goes into his feelings of imposter syndrome, mostly because he was surrounded by geniuses like Jack Nietzsche, Leon Russell, Brian Wilson and Phil Spector. Plus Bob Dylan and the Beatles were everywhere. In Cher’s memoir she talks about how even so, Sonny could make it happen and that was one of his superpowers in a way. Sonny says he had heard once that Cher said his songs “sound like shit until they’re unraveled” and that he often had trouble communicating his songs to Cher and others.

Cher said her early stage fright was torture. They both talk about her locked voice and resistance to walking on stage.

Sonny is definitely smarting from Cher’s later charge in portraying him as a “controlling Svengali.” In Cher’s defense, I actually think that part comes later in their relationship. Sonny feels Cher always portrays herself as the victim. By the way, Cher took great pains not to do this in her memoir. And Sonny talks about all the pressure he was under to launch their careers, although he admits Cher never complained about anything. He could just sense it, she had big goals. They both agree Cher was happy to let Sonny “chart their course.” And Cher looks back and can sympathize with his moods and stress levels during times they were struggling. They both agree they felt like it was “the two of them against the world.”

They both talk about recording “Ringo, I Love You.” (Cher’s first solo but not her first recording as I had always assumed.) They both agree Phil Spector loved the Beatles. At least Cher gets her pseudonym right: Bonnie Jo Mason. Sonny misremember it as Bobbie Joe Mason.” (Yesh, Sonny. Another thing you can look up!) Cher says they recorded it at Gold Star Studio B, “the size of my car.” Cher says she cringes at the early records and how nasal she sounded. She blamed teenage allergies. She talks about an album of covers they made for Liberty Records. “Nothing came of that.” (Where is it??) Sonny doesn’t mention any of this.

Cher talks about how ‘devastated’ they were when the first records went nowhere. How it made Cher stop singing around the house and then Sonny stopped working with Phil Spector. Later she says Sonny felt it “was time to leave” almost as if it was Sonny’s idea. But Sonny actually details his last phone call with Spector and a disagreement they had about the changing music scene that Spector didn’t want to acknowledge and how the Beatles were changing everything, Sonny says, “the Beatles ended Spector’s reign,” how this led to his being immediately frozen  out, if not actually fired.

Cher talks about Sonny’s relationship with DJ Sam Riddle from his promotion days. Sonny is pretty honest about what that “promotion” entailed which was a lot of ways of describing payola.

They both talk about meeting Brian Stone and Charlie Greene, with similar assessments of their characters. In fact, they both start new chapters at this juncture. chapters 7 and 11 respectively. Cher equates them to characters like in the Tony Curtis movie, Sweet Smell of Success. Cher says they re-energized Sonny and were “a match to our fuse.” They both talk about living with them for a while to save money. Sonny talks about Greene and Stone helping them get their Atco contract with Ahmet Ertegun.

Cher talks about her “vocal freeze” during the recording of “Baby Don’t Go” and they both talk about Phil Spector’s financial investment in it.

Sonny & Cher both talk about meeting The Rolling Stones. They both talk about the bus trip to their first Los Angeles concert but Sonny doesn’t mention Cher almost getting pulled out of the bus by a female crazy fan. They both say the Stones wanted to stay with them but that they didn’t have any furniture. (I thought that actually happened and I envisioned Mick Jagger sleeping on their floor. Turns out Sonny imagined that too and that’s why he said no.) In Cher’s version, they all met in a lobby of a hotel where the Stones were staying and they were innocently flirting with her, which Sonny didn’t like. In Sonny’s version, the desire to crash with them came by phone. Sonny contends he never met them until the bus trip concert. But maybe all this happened on the same day.

Cher tells the story of Mo Austin signing them twice by mistake but Sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher talks about the role Bridget and Colleen played in their early style and how they lived in Sonny and Cher’s garage apartment. Sonny doesn’t talk about them at all. Cher admits she dressed up Sonny in outrageous clothes first because he was already dressing experimentally, that she actually wasn’t brave enough at first to wear the looks she persuaded him to try. Sonny doesn’t talk much about clothes.

First Fame
Things started looking up when Cher made “All I Really Want to Do” on Imperial. Sonny says that Imperial wanted just Cher. This is different than all the stories of Sonny masterminding two recording contracts, one for Cher and one for the duo.

Cher talks about how Sonny wrote “I Got You Babe” and how she didn’t love it at first. Sonny remembers that she did like it and claimed she was going to keep that piece of cardboard it was written on forever. (She didn’t.) Sonny claims they both knew it would be a hit. Cher says it was only when they were recording it in the studio, when people were coming around to find out what they were doing, that she knew it was good. It almost sounds like she still isn’t fully convinced.

Cher says it was released as a single. Cher is wrong about this because Ahmet Ertegun fought for “It’s Gonna Rain” to be the a-side against Sonny’s wishes. It was Sonny’s behind the scenes promotion work with Sam Riddle (again) that got “I Got You Babe” played instead.

At this time, Sonny & Cher appeared in the movie Wild on the Beach to sing “It’s Gonna Rain” (giving weight to that being the single) and Cher says Sonny was convinced that this song “would cash in” and that he was also fascinated and absorbed in learning from the movie’s director. Sonny doesn’t mention this movie experience at all.

They have dramatically different London stories. Cher tells a very simple story that Mick Jagger and Jack Good ((of Shindig) both advised them to go to England. She says they hocked their furniture to go. She tells the story about the London Hilton turning them away as soon as they arrived and their being reporters outside wanting to talk to them about it (that’s the suspicious part), but she doesn’t believe this was a set up because the man checking them in didn’t seem that good of an actor. Later she says when they did the song “See See Rider” on her first solo album, they changed a verse to reference the London Hilton experience.

Cher talks about loving her trip and this being one of her favorite times with Sonny, shopping and being suddenly famous. She says Stone and Greene did plant a rumor about there being a Saudi Prince offering Sonny money for Cher (sounds like a Tom Cruise movie plot and also makes me think they would try that hotel trick). She talks about giving her first autograph there in London. In Sonny’s book he says she’s been practicing that autograph and Cher admits in her memoir she had been practicing it since she was about 11 or 12 years old. Chersays the food wasn’t great but everything else was.

Cher says it was when they returned to America, that “I Got You Babe” had become a hit there. It was like they returned as barnacles on the ship of the British Invasion.

Sonny’s chain of events is very different. According to him the song took off “like a rocket” to number 1. He does tell a story about being denied a room in a hotel but he puts that happening in New York City at The Americana Hotel and that there was a verbal altercation between the desk clerk and Stone and Greene, not Sonny. But Cher has a definite memory of Sonny taking a photograph of the registration book. Sonny & Cher had to stay at Ahmet Ertegun’s house, Sonny says. (Later he tells a stories about a few libertine parties at Ertegun’s place where S&C felt out of place, including one Thanksgiving that was where a model threw up all over the turkey). Sonny also does not believe it was a publicity stunt. Sonny doesn’t believe it because he didn’t think Greene and Stone were that smart. “All I can say is, they should have been so clever,” he says. Ok, I believe it then. (Sonny is so convincing. See?)

THEN he says they went to London, “which was the center of everything hip in music,” he reminds us. From Sonny’s telling it that the song was Top 10 there before they went to London and he even remembers pandemonium for them at LAX when they left, that the airport “ground to a halt” due to them. Sonny says the London Hilton also refused them a room, along with any other hotel in town, and so they again stayed at a flat owned by Ahmet Ertegun. Cher remembers them retreating to a kind of divey “pre-war” hotel.

Sonny also has a completely different memory about London’s affect on Cher. He says Cher was “scared of foreign countries” and that it was “a control issue.” (Isn’t Sonny the one with the control issues?) He says Cherhated the entire experience and couldn’t even muster the enthusiasm to go shopping.

He goes on to talk about Cher’s theory that she wouldn’t live past 30, her general hypochondria and fatalism. This struck me as sad because Cher talks about real viral infections like mono that took her down during this period and how kind Sonny always took care of her when she was sick in these early days and how that kind of set up their whole relationship.

In Cher’s story, her first taste of American fame was the hoards of screaming fans (5k) at JFK upon their return. She says they were broke when they left LAX and they came back rich. She notes signing her first autograph there.

These are huge differences, not trivial ones. Where were they when the song finally broke? Cher claims Georganne was on the London trip too. Maybe she can give her two cents on Cher’s mood in England and what happened when. Could one or both of them be conflating different memories. Entirely possible. Memories are famously unreliable.

Anyway, they both agree on how much work they had to do while they were in London: tv shows, interviews, trips to mod clubs. Both mention meeting Rod Stewart, Sandie Shaw and the group the Small Faces (who Cher says the Rolling Stones introduced them to). Cher remembers also meeting Dusty Springfield,  John Lennon and Paul McCartney. But Sonny says they did not meet the Beatles that trip. He says there was a rumor Lennon hit on Cher at a club but the Beatles were all off promoting their new movie Help!.

Sonny says he hired a documentary crew to follow them around to make movies of their songs. He says it cost him 35k but that all the footage was lost somehow and he still grieves about it. Cher doesn’t mention this at all.

Cher calls this time “crazy ass crazy” and “madness” and Sonny calls it a big blur. They both say they were dazzled by fame and were glad they became famous together, to experience it with each other.

Cher does mention Hampshire House Hotel off of Central Park but only that they stayed there after they get back from London. They both tell the story about Cher doing some expensive shopping during that stay. Cher says they finished the album Look at Us at a NYC recording studio. She also mentions a party at Ahmet Ertegun’s but focuses more Ertegun’s his wife than the decadence of the party.

Cher says that around this time Sonny got his nose job due to a deviated septum (from all the fist fights).

Cher says it was the “suit people” who found out they weren’t really married and came up with a press release about a secret Tijuana wedding in October of 1964. It was a lie they both agree. Sonny talks about the “fabricated wedding in Mexico.” He says they weren’t able to wed in 1964 because his divorce to Donna wasn’t finalized yet. Cher talked about postponing the wedding until she was 18.

Sonny says then the label Reprise reissued older songs, like “Baby Don’t Go” which went to #8 US and  #11 UK and then “Just You” which went to #20 US.  Then later it was “But You’re Mine” (#15 US and he doesn’t mention it but it also went to #17 UK), Vault reissued “The Letter” (75), Sonny mentions “The Revolution Kind” going to #70 and “What Now My Love” (misspelled “What Now, My Love”) going to #16 in 1966, He’s correct on those numbers, according to Wikipedia, except for “What Now My Love” which according to Wikipedia went to #14.

Cher talks about this time they had 5 songs in the top 20 at the same time Cher says and that only Elvis and the Beatles had done. This was probably from all the labels they had been on re-releasing old songs to cash in on them.  (I was in the middle of researching this with cher scholar Robrt Pela but we never finished). They both talk about appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show, who Cher says mentioned they had 5 songs in the top 50 (see, here is where it is all confused). And Sullivan muffed her name, called her cheer.

Sonny didn’t like being called a hippie. He is still upset Nancy Sinatra “of all people” called them clowns. (This is ironic, if true, since her biggest hit was with Sonny’s song). They both mention their agents at William Morris wanting them to change their look. They didn’t like being called fakes. Sonny maintains they were who they were.

Which honestly feels like a middle-of-the-road kind of place. They liked looking the way they did but socially did not fit in with the debauchery of the early rock scene. They were outsiders from the beginning, outsiders from even the circle of affected outsiders. This has carried through for Cher even through her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

But people treated them like a freaky fad. Cher talks about this too. They were perceived as a novelty act. And clothes were the thing that could be changed so could they please change it? They were not protest singers, Sonny admits, although he did dip his writing toes in that water. It was a bad fit, he admits. But Sonny says they did identify with the culture of peace, love and idealism, humanity and harmony, They believed Dylan when he said the times were changing. But their act was non-threatening, polite. They were straight arrows (Sonny’s words) and married (ostensibly). Well, on that point they were kind of fake.

Sonny says he was often called a fag for his cloths and hair. “Some idiots tagged us as commies,” he says which tells you a lot about Sonny’s politics. (Like of all things!)

Then Sonny tells the “Laugh at Us” story about Martoni’s Italian restaurant, the “industry watering hole.” where managers, promoters and A&R guys would coagulate. Sonny says he saw Sam Cooke there the night he was murdered. Sonny describes the altercation between Sonny and Cher and some college football players eating at a table nearby “with red, meaty faces and buzz haircuts.” Sonny remembers Cher asked them to “please cut it out” and that they responded with “whatcha gonna do to us, baby?” (Ok, that is pretty bad.) Sonny said he had a poker friend, a mob friend named Tony Ricco, (are we in the song “Copacabana” right now?) went over and said something about brass knuckles and they left but that the end result of it all was the owner asking Sonny and Cher to never to come back because trouble always came with them, which hurt their feelings considerably. Sonny went home and wrote the song went to #10 (US) and #9 (UK). “Cher loved it,” Sonny says but Cher doesn’t even tell the story.

They both agree on Cher’s love of shopping and how much home ownership meant to both them (hardly communist, he has a point). They both mention buying the Encino house and Georgia’s connection to the neighborhood but Sonny read it more as competition between the two of them. Cher never mentions the competition thing but that the house was near where her mom once lived with Gilbert. She said it wasn’t the house of her dreams because it was in the valley and she liked living where the action was. She was still pretty excited about it, she says. She says that after they moved in “Mom and Gee” moved near them, a few blocks away but that Cher only visited their house a few times. It was now when Cher purchased two of everything in fear of future poverty (and she later says how useless two of everything is when you’re broke again). She talks about the Encino neighborhood bike paths that Sonny would explore with his new dirt bike (behavior as seen in the movie Good Times). In fact Sonny admits that Cher’s shopping was all about clothes (Cher tells the story of being insulted on Rodeo Drive and then buying four copies of an outfit in every color….emotional spending) and Sonny’s “vice” was motorcycles and cars. So he was spending money too.

Cher talks about the Sonny & Cher clothes line at Gordon and Mark of California. Sonny doesn’t mention this. She talks about the Dear Cher column in 16 Magazine but she mistakenly attributes it to Teen Beat. Sonny also doesn’t mention this.

They both tell the story about playing for Jackie Kennedy in 1965 in NYC. Someone was throwing a party in her honor and she asked for Sonny & Cher to play. Cher doesn’t talk about how bad their set was, like Sonny did. She only mentions eating dessert with her (they weren’t invited to dinner) and the ladies withdrawing while the men smoked cigars and that this is where she met Diana Vreeland who told her she had a pointed head and that “Richard must see you.” Enter Cher’s relationship with Vogue and Richard Avedon. Sonny doesn’t mention any of the Vogue stuff. Cher says that Jackie told them “I Got You Babe” was one of the family’s favorite songs. The children would sing along. Sonny gave her kids Catholic medals. Jackie said Sonny looked “almost Shakespearean” and after that “he was putty in her hands.”

In Sonny’s version he also remembers the catholic medals he brought for the kids but that they were both very intimidated by the guests there and he interprets this event as “their first fall from the spotlight” because they couldn’t be themselves. Sonny does remember Jackie’s haircut compliment but only that it “seemed complimentary” but mostly just reminded him Sonny and Cher were “just players to her.” Again, they were seen as “an amusing clown act.” Sonny says the sound system destructed and he calls it “an embarrassing fiasco.” Is he conflating this with the later-Princess Margaret performance?

Only Cher tells the story of playing for Princess Margaret in Los Angeles at the Palladium. (The events are like bookends of royalty). According to Cher, this was the fiasco performance, not the Jackie Kennedy one. She says they were shocked to have been invited because “the old guard” thought they were freaks. But they didn’t feel like they could say no. Cher says, “it boggled the imagination how much that wasn’t our audience. The best that could happen is we’d live through it…the whole event was a fiasco. It started late, the princess had laryngitis, Frank Sinatra dropped out…there was no stage , the acoustics were so bad that, coupled with the sound problems, we performed terribly.” Peter Bogdanovich was there and reviewed them by saying they howled like coyotes. “When Princess Margaret asked for the sound to be turned down due to a headache, the engineer then accidentally cut the mic and interfered with what we could hear….it was like a bad dream we couldn’t get out of.”

They both mention the Hollywood Bowl show with the Mamas and the Papas and the Righteous Brothers except that Cher correctly notes the fourth act was Jan & Dean and not Dean Martin. (Sonny. Mr. Cher had a good laugh imagining the concert that included both the Mamas and the Papas and Dean Martin.) Cher says that this show sold out in 24 hours. She tells of her proud mother and uncle attending…sounding not so jealous. In Sonny’s version they did the group show and then latter sold out the bowl in 24 hours by themselves.

Sonny says that around this time The Rolling Stones recorded “Shut Up, Sit Down” a song he had written with Rowdy Jackson. He is very wrong about this. There is no song called “Shut Up, Sit Down” but a song that has that lyric in it on the album Out of Our Heads. The song is called “One More Try” and it was on the U.S. album release, written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. The Sonny Bono/Roddy Jackson song on that same album  is called “She Said Yeah.” Sigh. He got the wrong song, the wrong name of the wrong song and his co-writer’s name wrong. And it was look-up-able. (Oh, and search Sonny on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roddy_Jackson)

Sonny says the summer of 1966 they were everywhere and it was an electrifying time. His family no longer make jokes about his ambitions and he had delivered on his promise to this “scared, confused, skinny girl.” Sonny says when they looked at each other during performances, the love was real and never stronger or deeper. But the second studio album didn’t do as well (#35 US, #15 UK) and Sonny felt he should have been more worried. Sonny talks a lot about the pressure he felt during this time. He, just like Cher, was afraid they would lose everything. Cher would say things like she wanted them to be really big (bigger) and Sonny felt it was never enough. The Kinks and The Who were changing music but he couldn’t change (just like Phil Spector couldn’t change a few years earlier). There were The Doors, psychedelic experimentation and drugs. They were squares, no longer hip, Sonny says. His solo album Inner Views was his attempt to experiment. But Sonny didn’t really want to be rebellious. He says he sometimes hears radio plays of “Pammie’s on a Bummer” but he calls his own song moody and contrived. Cher says she was “crazy about” Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream and Eric Clapton but Sonny was the boss so…

Sonny insists he always believed in Cher’s star power and her having a solo career and never felt any competition with that. He calls her pure magic in front of an audience. “No one had to tell me Cher was hot” but then he says of the imbalance of their talent, “that was the hand I was dealt with and I tried to play it as best I could.”

Cher was easy to write for, Sonny says, when talking about the song “Bang Bang” and he lists the Wrecking Crew members who worked on it but not by that name: Tommy Tedesco, Glen Campbell, Hal Blaine and Leon Russel. He says Cher didn’t like this song but he crows the fact she still plays it live. He says it was Cher’s first million-selling solo single. He says he wrote it while riding down Sunset Blvd in his Astro Martin convertible. Sonny says this time the KHJ LA program director had to be convinced but the song went to #2 (US) and  #3 (UK). Cher doesn’t mention the song in her memoirs, (Eee!! It’s probably the most covered Cher song of all time), but I remembered her referring to it somewhere last year….maybe in the memoirs press. Turns out it was from the French radio interview (the song did well there according to the DJ). Cher says there “it was such a strange song. We loved it. It sounds like it shouldn’t be a relationship song. It was a strange take on love.” “

They both talk about Cher giving Sonny 12 leather-bound journals. Cher says it was at Christmastime and Sonny remembers it as a 33rd birthday present. Cher said it was to help his moods and Sonny credits it for helping him start to think about his life which in turn helped him with his memoirs (he mentions it at the beginning and sprinkles entries from it in his book) and they both agree Sonny took to it, staying up at night to write in it and giving it to Cher to read and write in too. They both agree it was then used to communicate with each other. Cher felt like her opinions would land better in the diary than they would face to face. There’s a note on his 33rd birthday about how he’s never without Cher and that she’s truly a star and his stabilizer, his generator and his reason. Cher says she doesn’t remember this entry but someone showed it to her from “a book he published.” I assume she means his memoir excerpt is not in that book. It could be from when Mary published Sonny’s diary entries in People Magazine after his death. (I have a copy on the way.) Cher said she never would have guessed he felt that way.

First Irrelevancy
Sonny also admits that fame did a number on his head, that he lost sight of his goals, his identity and he started to distrust managers and advisors. Cher talks about how Sonny took on managing their act by the end of the decade and how stressful that was for Sonny.

Making the movie Good Times felt like the beginning of the end to this reader.

Cher says Sonny had poker and clam-eating contests with his friends which included William Fredkin (who Cher says was a documentary film maker at the time) and Francis Ford Coppola (who Cher says was a UCLA student at the time). Sonny says Colonel Parker advised their agent that they should do a film like the Beatles were doing, a cheap movie with an album to support it. Sonny agrees Friedelin was a poker buddy and became the movie’s director.

Sonny says his songwriting wasn’t breaking any new ground and he wanted to make a movie but that Cher was disinterested in the movie idea.

Now here they diverse biggly again around Cher’s love of acting. Both agree she wasn’t enthused about Good Times at first, just as depicted in the movie. Sonny thinks she never was but Cher says she eventually got into it. She just thought her first acting role would be in a serious movie, like the role in the movie Chastity.

Sonny doesn’t think Cher really wanted to be an actress. “She wanted to sing…was always singing,” Sonny says. He says she wasn’t really into her acting classes with Jeff Corey. This could be his rationalization for asking her to quit them. Cher insists in her memoir that she didn’t think she would ever be a viable singer (due to her low register) and that it made her very sad to give up acting classes, but she did it for Sonny. Sonny says “she was ambivalent about the craft and never showed much interest in attending classes.” In reconstructed dialogue with Cher, Sonny tells her half the times she skips class.

Sonny believed her mother was pushing the acting lessons on her. And Georgia, Sonny says, wasn’t happy about her quitting them. And this, Sonny says, ended all three of them into a session with Georgia’s therapist. (This almost sounds like a tug-of-war over control of Cher.) Cher describes loving the classes and feeling like she was doing well in them, getting good feedback from Jeff Corey and we was very excited when she him in a movie. Considering her late 1970s and early-80s devotion to launching an acting career, you kind of believe Cher on this one. But then again, we saw her drifting away from a movie career at the turn of the century in exchange of big concert tours.

In any case, Cher agrees she was wary of those Beatles’ novelty films. “Sonny decided he was a filmmaker now,” Cher says, and hired a screenwriter. Sonny says his name was Nichols Hymes but the title card of the movie and Wikipedia list the name as Nicholas Hyams. But then Sonny fired them and took over the screenwriting with Fredkin they both mention. Cher says one of the issues was Sonny’s calls for urgent, middle of the night script conferences. Sonny’s version is that the writer’s pitch was good but his final script was crazy and surreal.

Cher was frustrated by the “endless” discussions. Cher admitted the movie was funny, albeit stupid and corny and describes her roles as Tarzan’s Jane, a Sherriff’s showgirl and a gumshoe P.I.’s moll. her says the movie was backed initially by Paramount and once Sonny got the funding, which Cher didn’t think he would, she felt “oh shit” I have to do something now. She felt huge because she had gained 15 pounds on birth control but loved meeting and talking to George Sanders. She also liked her experience at Africa USA Wild park. The most difficult part was being murdered with blanks while playing Brigid O’Shaughnessy in the Sam Spade spoof. She ended up walking off the set saying “Screw you, Billy” after they all dismissed her suffering and told her to “man up.” She also said the lion cub almost mauled Sonny in the Jungle skit. She said her mother was really proud of her and Cher’s response was, “I had to laugh” – which is very elliptical. In fact, Cher’s comments about her mom tend to be elliptical. Cher says Paramount pulled out. Sonny confirms this and that he put up the rest of the money needed to finish it. This would come to haunt him later. The gorilla filmmaking started at this point.

Another big discrepancy in the two books is the story of when Cher caught Sonny having sex with his secretary. Cher says it happened during the filming of Chastity and Sonny puts it during the filming of Good Times. Sonny says he hired a typist/secretary to take notes and he was having sex with her one night and Cher walked in. He says Cher gave him the “cold shoulder” after that but eventually came back around (seemingly on her own). Sonny says this was the only time Cher ever caught him cheating but that this was not the only time he did it. He says this was the era of the double standard, he was an Italian sexist but that he’s come to see the error of his ways after two more marriages. We’ll cover Cher’s version of this when we get to the movie Chastity.

Cher just says that the reviews were good and her performance was called “effortless” which Cher wasn’t sure was an insult or compliment and that Sonny was also called “a natural.” She admits it wasn’t a box office success and that Sonny became depressed and that he had “overextended them financially” for the film. Sonny admits they shot at their own pace and went over budge and the studio “pulled the plug.” They were only 2/3 done, Sonny says. Sonny doesn’t talk about the reviews or his experience acting or any of the locations or scenes. He only discusses the writing of it and the money aspects.

When it was released, Sonny says he went around to Chicago theaters and all of them were empty. For the Austin, Texas, premiere there was a parade and press but only nine people actually in the theater. Sonny in the retelling sounds honestly shocked about this and at the same time insists he “honestly never believed the movie was going to be successful” because he knew Sonny & Cher were already “on the wane” and that the film’s premise wasn’t in synch with the times. Here is where Sonny tries to convey that he’s “in the know” about show business even when he fails. This is a pattern in the book. Sonny claims the experience “hardened us” and he admits he blamed Cher for her lack of seriousness about the movie. Distance grew between them and he lashed out, slamming doors and throwing glassware. “Cher would let me have it.”

Cher talks about being on the Carol Burnett show and first meeting Bob Mackie. He designs her first dress for the “You’d Better Sit Down” song (23:29) from this 1967 show. Sonny doesn’t mention Carol Burnett but he later mentions late-decade Laugh In appearances she doesn’t mention.

Stone and Greene get fired. Cher says one day they were just gone, that Sonny didn’t like all the attention they were spending on their new clients Buffalo Springfield and Iron Butterfly. Cher says Sonny told her Stone and Greene stole from them but that she read later Sonny had to buy out their contracts for $250,000. Sonny talks about how there’s always a honeymoon period with managers. (To Cher’s credit, she’s kept hers for longer periods of time.) Sonny says Stone and Greene had become creepy copies of Sonny & Cher, dressing and talking like them, hanging out with their circle and that “we resented it.” Then they found Joe De Carlo who became their new manager and both Sonny and Cher agree he was like a father figure to them. Sonny says he would say things like “kids, don’t worry. I’ll take care of it.”

Music: Sonny said they worked on “Little Man” in London while while they were promoting Good Times in the UK. He used a cap of a coke bottle on the strings to the piano for the gypsy sound. It was a top 10 in the UK but didn’t fare well in the US. Cher doesn’t mention this song or “The Beat Goes On” but Sonny talks about his philosophy of life goes on, about failure, defeat and opportunity, that you always need to keep problem solving. “I was a fighter,” he says and that first came up with the “drums keep ponding rhythm to the brain” line and the la-di-da-di-de fill. He says nothing about the production of the song or how Carol Kaye invented the bass line (which arguably made the song what it was). Radio play got the song to #6 but people didn’t rush out to buy it, Sonny says. The song, like the rest of their later 60s material, was out of kilter with the hip scene.

Tony Curtis House #1: They both talk about the crazy experience of going to the Tony Curtis party (not knowing him personally at the time) at Carrolwood. Sonny says they were invited to the party via one of his poker pals. They both mention either the square footage of the house (Cher) or the number of rooms (Sonny). Sonny says it was the biggest house they’d ever seen. (they both remark on how it felt to pull up to the house) and how the next day Curtis sold them his other house on St. Cloud in Bel Air (only 34 rooms). Cher told Sonny someday they would live in the Big House and Sonny responded, “Ok, bud.” Both say how much they liked Tony Curtis even though he put them through the hard sell when he showed them the St. Cloud House: You wanna be seen as a show biz winner? Imagine kids in the pool! Cher says the St. Cloud house itself was her dream house. They bought it for $250,000 and Sonny says Cher was in heaven. She had arrived. She doesn’t dispute this. Problem was their income was dwindling. They were down to some commercials and backyard parties and the house was expensive to maintain. Royalties were meagre, Sonny says. By 1968 there were no more hits and only a handful of concerts. Sonny started to think some of their happiest days were when they were poor and Cher later would feel this way, too. But that they couldn’t go back.

Sonny says they sold their Encino house furnished and they had no money for new furniture. Cher says all they had was a four-poster canopy bed and a dinning room table and four chairs. Ron Wilson decorated their kitchen for them as a housewarming gift.

The Drug Film: Everyone who was a teen at the time remember this film. The eye-rolling Sonny (and Cher, although she wasn’t in it) anti-drug film. Cher correctly calls the film called Marijuana and she hints at the ridiculousness of Sonny, a man in his 30s, wearing silk pajamas sitting in their opulent home talking to teenagers about drugs. Cher says they showed the movie for years to 12th graders.

Interestingly, both portray the other one as the more adamantly opposed to booze and drugs. Cher says Sonny was anti-drug because he was older, more conservative person. Sonny says Cher was anti-drug because her father a drug addict which had caused havoc in her life. Cher admits she didn’t imbibe because she never saw imbibing really help anyone and she didn’t enjoy it when she tried it; but that she didn’t judge others who did like her mother or uncle (she doesn’t mention Gregg Allman). Cher says the drug film killed their record sales and appearance offers and they went from selling in the millions to the tens of thousands. She admits Sonny was likely on prescription medication at this time, too, painkillers and valium.

Sonny doesn’t even mention anything about the film at all.

Chastity The Movie: Cher says that at a low point, Sonny started writing this movie and that he was influenced by The Graduate and new filmmaking. Sonny says he was bored with music and wanted to be in the movie business. His friend William Fredkin told him to “write a damn movie.” Sonny says the movie was a challenge to write. He calls it a loving interpretation of the enigmatic Cher, an unsolvable paradox. He still believed in her talent. Sonny said in his diary he felt Cher would be one of the “best actresses of our day. I hope I can prove it.”

He wanted it to be like the timeless epics. He wanted to make a statement too, be profound. It was about a quest for identity, a search for the meaning of life. He says it was overwritten but he claims Cher and Fredkin liked it. Cher agreed she liked the original script. But the movie had no studio, director or money and Sonny needed 150-200K. He said he understood that it was unheard of to finance your own movie. But he did it anyway. (It’s hard to know if he did know he shouldn’t put up his own money of if this is just another example of Sonny maintaining that he knows the score all time.) But Ahmet Ertegun “floated them some cash” and arranged for a few other investors. Sonny want to NYC to find investors but couldn’t.

The Salvador Dali Story: Sonny says while he was in NYC looking for investors when the Salvador Dali incident happened. They both tell this story. Cher says it was at the St. Regis Hotel in NYC. They were there with Francis Ford Coppola and Dali’s wife was having a party in their suite. They ran into Sonny & Cher and invited them to their suite party one night and then dinner the next night at a restaurant.

The both talk about the fish vibrator Cher picked up at the suite party. Cher describes it in detail as a plastic fish with a tail that would wiggle when you turned it on. Cher starts to play with it and Cher has Dali say, “It’s lovely when you place it on your clitoris.” Sonny has Dali say, “this is what nuns in Spain use to masterbate.” (You could probably write a thesis paper on just these two responses to that toy). They both agree that the vibrator incident made Sonny and Francis Ford Coppola start laughing uncontrollably.

Sonny says Dali’s crowd assumed Sonny & Cher were kinky and that there were all kinds of things going on at the penthouse suite. But Sonny remembers the dinner happening on the same night. After hanging around the suite without any food arriving, they all decided to go out to dinner. Sonny remembers Helmut Newton being there. Cher remembers Ultra Violet being there and tapping on Cher’s leg with her cane incessantly. In Cher’s story they went to the restaurant and all sat together for some uncomfortable time before the Dali group said they had to be somewhere else and moved to the next table, from then on ignoring them. Sonny says the Dali party immediate sat down at another table and ignored them.

Cher says they worked with a 15 person crew on Chastity and the director was a real person and not Sonny, a director of commercials who didn’t really know what he was doing, Cher calls him a clichéd hack. Sonny doesn’t mention the director at all except to say he was fired during the editing process for taking too long. It was really low budget, Cher providing her own clothes. Cher knew that Sonny had been inspired by her when he wrote it and says, “I could’ve been offended but I wasn’t” The lesbian episode was based on Sonny thinking Cher had been in a relationship with her earlier roommate Melissa. Cher says she hit it off with her British co-star Stephen Whitaker, mostly because he seemed interested in what she had to say and they bonded over a love of acting. It wasn’t sexual at all Cher says. But Sonny was jealous of them and moved scenes around to keep them apart. He cut all the intimacy out of the script, Cher says.

During the making of the movie, Sonny & Cher did the Soul Together, Martin Luther King tribute concert benefit at Madison Square Garden where Cher met Jim Hendrix. Cher says they were at the bottom of the bill. Sonny doesn’t mention the show at all.

It’s here where Cher brings up the dictation secretary Sonny was caught sleeping with “who happened to be young and blonde,” Cher remembers details about this episode, the wrought iron gate she saw them through when she woke up late one night to get a glass of water. Cher insists she had no earlier suspicions. She recounts coming to bed after she caught them, what she said to him and then packing off to her mother’s house the next morning and her mother telling her she’d “been hearing things” about Sonny’s philandering. Cher said she was “overloaded with sadness” and that she did not just “come around” eventually, as Sonny claims, but that Sonny came to Georgia’s house the next day to talk Cher into coming back, eventually blaming her for their not having enough sex.

Around this time Cher says, her mother stopped talking to her and sent her a list of grievances but Cher doesn’t say what those grievances were. You wonder if one of the might have been Cher’s obsession with Sonny, even after he was caught cheating on her. While in Scottsdale filming Chastity, Sonny says they met with a psychic who predicted a good thing would come from the movie and Sonny interprets this to be their new baby. Cher doesn’t mention this.

Sonny said the movie shoot was beleaguered with problems, bad weather, illness, equipment breaking, fights, script problems. Sonny said he watered down the sex scenes, yes, but that it was still “plenty hot.” (It wasn’t). He admits he was worried about Cher and Whitaker because of their looks and pats on the back, “not that I had been faithful to Cher” and that Cher’s double told him an affair was in progress and that “everyone on the set knows.” Cher claims she was friends with her double, a woman named Joanna (see photo at right). Sonny says he had a talk with Cher and the flirting stopped.

Sonny and their new manager, Denis Pregnolato, finished editing the movie and postproduction was expensive, Sonny says, so he needed more money. They went on tour for cash. And while Sonny was editing the movie, Cher was on bed rest. She was pregnant again. No studios were interested. While Denis and Sonny were in NYC to find investors Sonny’s hotel room was burgled. Then the William Morris agents that had once been supportive agents for them walked out of a meeting with Sonny and Denis. Eventually American International Pictures distributed the film.

Sonny’s final assessment: the movie stank. Cher says in the end the film’s R rating meant that the kids it was aimed for couldn’t even see it and it was panned by the critics. They were both too sick to attend the premiere. Sonny agrees with this. He says the movie had one week of good box office before dying. He said the distributor changed the poster to add a buxom body to Cher but it didn’t help.

Cher says the lost their agent but Joe DeCarlo stuck by us. Sonny says he had given up on Joe De Carlo by then (but he doesn’t say why).

Sonny and Politics: Cher says Sonny offered his services to the Robert F. Kennedy campaign. In fact they would have been with RFK the night he was shot but for the shooting schedule for Chastity. Cher also said Sonny had an idea for a bill that George McGovern was interested in. But students accused Sonny of being rich establishment. Sonny says Cher was apathetic about politics. He says he eventually saw the hypocrisy of politics, the phoniness. (Sonny is a mayor as he writes this, not yet a congressman.) He says he sees politics as a lesser state of show business. (I’ve heard that depiction in my own house too from someone who has written for both show business and Washington, D.C., but it’s an ironic way to think in terms of real impact.)

Their Relationship and Marriage: Cher recounts a bad event after going to see The Dirty Dozen movie where Sonny turned on her and started a fight in the car and then disappeared for the night which Cher said became a pattern, a kind of cover for Sonny to put Cher off-balance and then disappear for the night. Sonny doesn’t mention this but does admit he was never faithful. She tells the tennis lesson story where Sonny got jealous and burned all her tennis clothes and that Denis Pregnolato (who was living with them at the time) told Sonny she had been talking to men at the instructor’s party. Sonny doesn’t tell any of these stories.

Sonny instead tells of the pressure he felt from Cher, not that she was ever saying anything. He felt their career supported their marriage and was inseparably linked. He felt pressure to maintain their music career but songwriting had become a task. Sonny says he plotted and planned and that Cher always had faith in him and that he needed her confidence. They both agreed he was tenacious as a superpower. As Sonny stirred the show biz waters, Cher went to bed at 10, Sonny says. Cher says she was always so exhausted by their unrelenting schedule (and now she’s a night owl). Sonny said she shopped and did needlepoint. Cher says she shopped and did needlepoint because that’s all she was allowed to do.

Sonny insists their relationship depended upon success. He says it was unspoken and unstated and that Cher never complained but it was “quite obvious” when she “disappeared inside” The years 1972-4 would prove him wrong about this when Cher would leave him at their most successful peak It wasn’t the lack of success that ended it. Sonny admits their relationship was lopsided, not balanced and not healthy.

Cher says they’d been faking a marriage from the beginning but Sonny decided they needed to be married. Cher recounts this as happening before Chaz was born and they had a quick ceremony in the library. She says it was very unromantic but that she didn’t care. Sonny claims that when he found out Cher was pregnant during the making of Chastity he suggested “we should go legit.” (Why not during all the other pregnancies?). Sonny says they didn’t get married until Chastity was a toddler and that it happened in the den and he says it was not nearly as romantic as when they used to sing together on stage.

So they both agree it was not romantic but they disagree about where and when it happened.

By the end of the the decade, Sonny said his only confidant was Denis Pregnolato and Cher says her only confidant was Joe De Carlo.

Chastity The Person: Both say the other one figured the baby would be a boy, but that they personally didn’t care.

Cher: “Sonny was convinced it was a boy and that’s all he wanted. I didn’t care.”  Cher claims Sonny said, “remember Cher, I want a boy.” Sonny: “Cher was convinced she was having a boy. I didn’t care.”  (This is all complicated by the Chaz Bono story.)

During the pregnancy, Sonny became nicer Cher says. He took her to Cedars of Sinai in “our ridiculous Rolls Royce limo.” Cher talks of all the pictures Sonny took and how she hated it at the time but is now glad he did it, just like he said she would be. Cher says Chaz’s middle name is after Sonny, her Dad. Sonny says Chastity Sun the Sun for the light she brought into our lives. Well, at least they agree about the Chastity part.

Cher says she felt anxiety about being a mother and that her own mother didn’t come to see her in the hospital and that broke her heart. Cher says they weren’t speaking and she has forgotten why. She hemorrhaged the night she came home from the hospital and sonny was MIA. sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher says her mother came to visit three months later and then just criticized her mothering.

Sonny claims Cher would cry if Chastity didn’t smile enough, that maybe the baby didn’t love her (post partum anyone?). Cher only mentions struggling with an early nurse who didn’t think she knew how to do anything and being determined to do mothering the best she could.

Sonny says the baby was everything to them. Cher says it was like Christmas every day.  Sonny talks again about feeling guilty about being a poor dad to Christy.

By this time they were borrowing money from their chauffeur that they needed for their “ridiculous” Rolls Royce limo.

Muscle Shoals: Three weeks later Cher was working again for Vogue. When she returned from the shoot, Sonny told her they were flat broke and owed 270K to the government for unpaid taxes. Sonny says it was 200k. Cher said neither Sonny or her knew anything about taxes. Neither of them had ever been in a job long enough to pay taxes (that’s amazing!) and Sonny never trusted their managers with the money stuff. They couldn’t finish paying for the St. Cloud house and the market was bad for selling it. Cher admits she had a panic attack and withdrew but that Sonny promised her he could turn it around in two years. “Give me two years and we’ll be bigger than ever.” And she believed he could (and he did). Cher says it was his faith this time that pulled her through: “He had a great belief in us.” Sonny doesn’t tell the give-me-two years story in his book but I have a vague memory that he did tell it somewhere in an interview.

Sonny said Ahmet Ertegun still believed in them but that Jerry Wexler only wanted Cher without Sonny for the next record. He said he also lost his role as producer.

For Cher this was the beginning of the next phase. She mentions the This is Tom Jones appearance in London (Sonny does too) and the Jackson Highway album. Sonny was not producing but he was interfering a lot, she said, and claimed he was only there for support and to take photos. But due to all the arguments, Jerry Wexler ended up in the hospital from stress and Cher had to retreat to the cemetery across the street to lay down and talk to all the dead people. She read Sonny’s diary where he said it was the best album she’s ever done. Sonny tells this part too, about this being her best album yet. He calls it a great album.

But they were dropped from Atlantic anyway. That was the end of Ertegun’s great belief I guess. “The album stiffed,” Sonny says.

Sonny says it was Joe De Carlo who suggested nightclubs which they resisted at first because they saw themselves as rock and rollers. But Sonny was depressed and they needed money. They started at the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas in 1969 opening for Pat Boone. Cher hated it. They both agree on this. The audience was too close, Sonny says. Cher was back to looking straight at Sonny when they performed. His diary says “her magic grows” but he admits he has to keep her in line now. “I never let her get too far out of line” and he acknowledges how bad that sounds. He was a chauvinist. No argument there. He says Cher hated the travel and not being a star. (This is an interesting claim because she did long, long concert tours later on.) Sonny says they became professional vagabonds on the Fairmont Hotel circuit. They went all over the U.S. and Canada with Chastity and a nanny in tow and it was a great joy. Cher agrees with this. She says they all became closer during this time even though times were hard. And a stage repartee developed. Sonny doesn’t say how it came to be, like Cher does, but he gives an example.

And here we come to the end of 1969.

We have to acknowledge, in Sonny’s defense, he may not have been allowed to the ink and the space to tell as many stories as Cher was allowed. Sonny didn’t receive an icon or a legend’s memoir contract and he may have had to cut out a lot to fit everything into a smaller book. Editors could have been involved. Or maybe he self-edited. But even so, he surely seemed to misremember more than Cher did.

Things I found working on this:

“Home of the Brave” by Bonnie and The Treasures (Sonny says it has Sonny and Cher on backup)

Graham Reed talks about “Pammie’s On a Bummer”

One of the Hollywood Bowl radio promo spots. 93 cents!?

Chastity Movie Radio Interview

The Drug Film (in case you missed it in high school)

Cher in Rome, Cher Food and Updates to TV History

First of all, my condolences to all the Ozzy Osbourne fans out there. I have a few friends in mourning today, including my friend Julie, a.k.a. Coolia, who is a huge Ozzy fan, collector and attendee of many of his shows. My mentor in many new online things, Coolia inspired one of my earliest online handles (before Nerdia even), which was RemovedCherRib after her OzzyBat (our handles from scandals). Anyway, Ozzy had many, many fans out there who are sad today so cyber hugs to them. For so many years, Ozzy seemed indestructible. He was also one of my very few celebrity sightings in Los Angeles. I crossed paths with him on the sidewalk once in Santa Monica during his reality TV show days as I was heading to the promenade.

When In Rome

Cher has been spotted. She performed a few weekends ago at the Dolce & Gabbana’s 2025 Alta Moda event in Rome on 12 July and then was seen around and about at parties and on the go.

News stories about it:

Stealth video:

Cher Universe has posted bits of Cher’s performance edited together. It’s interesting how they had dancers pose as a kind of soft paparazzi (to the music of “Bang Bang”) to begin everything, especially considering they were in Rome, the birthplace of the term paparazzi.

Cher starts by lip synching (there are a few mistakes) to “Song for the Lonely” in a big puffy jacket over a black, sparkly vest (it almost looks bullet proof) and a kind of grass-green sparkly pantsuit.  She’s wearing a long blonde wig.

Cher then talks for a bit about how she came to be involved in the movie Tea with Mussolini. She leaves to change outfits and a solo male dancer does a flamenco to the introduction to “Dov’è L’amore.”  This also appears to be a lip sync, especially since there seem to be some hiccups with the backing audio when she exits the stage. At least the backing instrumentation is new for these songs. The hairstyle is the same here, only black and she’s in an outfit similar to the “Dov’è L’amore” video.  I keep forgetting what a great song this is.

Finally, Cher returns again in her hole-fit (the latest incarnation anyway) and lip syncs “Turn Back Time” and “Believe.”

The trip produced lots of shots of Alexander Edwards and Cher having a bit of Roman romance, which was very sweet. Hopefully, Cher got a break from family issues to work and play with friends.

Cher Food

A few months ago I received a message that Microsoft Publisher will no longer be supported. This means, for one, no more Cher zines. But it also means I now have to rescue my prior zine content (electronically-speaking) from my old Publisher files. I had already planned to start publishing some of my food-related articles from past zines and creating a new food section on the Cher Scholar site.

And that new section exploded like a batch of hot liquid from the top of an out-of-control blender. I ended up breaking up the existing Sonny & Cher (and family) recipe page into multiple pages. And while I was at it, I’ve cooked three more recipes from the Cooking with Cher cookbook by Andy Ennis, all which were a home run.

To be honest, I’m at a disadvantage when I make these celebrity recipes. For one, I’m a vegetarian and also not a low-fat diet. So sometimes I make modifications that don’t match the true historical experience if the recipe. Secondly, I constantly make mistakes. Not as many as I used to make before a few years making dinner with Hello Fresh, but still plenty of mistakes. So my results should not be taken as the value of these recipes. I’m doing my own thing here.

But anyway, we have a food home page now, https://www.cherscholar.com/cher-food/, divided up into sub-pages of yumminess as follows:

The Original Sonny & Cher Recipes Page
https://www.cherscholar.com/sonny-bono-recipes/
It’s the spot for most of Sonny’s recipes I’ve been able to find and the cookbooks that feature Sonny and or Cher. It also contains the link to the Mike Douglas cooking spot from 1969 and expanded information about Sonny’s restaurants and food ventures.

The Pasta Sauce Recipes
https://www.cherscholar.com/the-secret-pasta-sauce/
Because I am now on a spaghetti-sauce quest, I broke the pasta sauce recipes out onto their own page.

Movie Food
https://www.cherscholar.com/movie-food/
This is rabbit hole. I’m sure there’s more to add here but I had some basic information about Mermaids food from a promo cookbook. Then I remembered those Moonstruck eggs! And then more foods as seen in Witches of EastwickMoonstruckMermaidsGood Times and the 1969 movie Chastity. Plus bonus links to movie drinking games!

The Jack Nicholson Cher Muffin-Off
https://www.cherscholar.com/the-jack-nicholson-cher-muffin-off/
On 4 April  2004 I had a small dinner party in Los Angeles with my friend mentioned above and Ape Culture co-editor Julie Wiskirchen. For Cher Zine 2, we had a cookoff between the cookbooks Cooking for Jack and Cooking for Cher.

My Armenian Dinner Party
https://www.cherscholar.com/my-armenian-dinner-party/
On 20 March 2010, I threw an Armenian food party in Redondo Beach on the night of a Cher Video Marathon, all for Cher Zine 3.

Progeny Recipes
https://www.cherscholar.com/recipes-of-the-children/
Last night I made Chaz Bono’s Italian Spinach and Onions dish and Elijah Allman’s Mustard-Caper Burgers. Both turned out great. It felt like a good time to send good vibes to Cher kids via their foods.

Updates to the 1970s Variety Shows

First off, my many, many thanks to Cher scholars Jay Pickering and Barbara Lorenz for their help this month cleaning up the TV Variety Shows page. Jay helped me update The Sonny & Cher Show episodes 19 and 31. And Barbara helped me revamp all the re-airings based on better information she had, which included reminding me of the fact that the Sonny & Cher shows were syndicated in the early 1980s. (I think I assumed that was just some weird dream I had or strange St. Louis vortex I was in when I made cassette tapes of those airings (and then repressed it completely).

Anyway, we’ve cleaned up the episode guide main page to include a summary of all the re-airings and made edits to a ton of the episodes thanks to Barbara’s materials and notes from watching the shows during their first airings.

I’ve also gone through Cher’s YouTube channel to replace missing or taken-down videos. Cher has been great about restoring some long-lost clips of musical numbers and I was about a year behind linking relinking to them. And I missed some truly great never-re-aired numbers:

The restored video of Cher singing “Do Right Woman, Do Right Man” from Cher, episode  23.

The restored video of Cher singing “You Turn Me On” from Cher, episode 20.

Barbara also corrected me on a song title which led to my finding the video for “You Make Me Feel Brand New,” the solo from The Sonny & Cher Show, episode 2.

It’s been a fun few weeks of Cher catch-up.

Sing Until the Twelfth of Never

Cher has a lot going on right now it seems: family stuff, elephant stuff, professional-sounding stuff. More on that in later weeks.

For now I want to talk about an announcement Cher made back in January of this year (2025) as reported by The Cher World:

“Cher just announced in VEJA that her upcoming album will be her last: ‘I’m almost certain that this will be my LAST ALBUM because there simply comes a time when the voice is no longer fit for singing. My voice is not the same. That’s why I’m trying to record the new album as quickly as possible. But anything can happen. I will give my best and I hope people will like it.'” 

I just saw this last week and thought for a few days Cher had just said it. So I was mulling it over the last few days, what to think about the idea of a final Cher anything. And like many fans I feel both understanding about it and yet inevitably crestfallen. On the one hand, it’s probably hard to belt out power ballads after you’re 80. On the other hand, who cares?

Frank Sinatra (The Voice himself) sang for years after he famously lost his voice to vocal-chord hemorrhaging in 1950. And if he had stopped we wouldn’t have the iconic songs “Love and Marriage“(1955)  or “It Was a Very Good Year” (1965) or “Strangers in the Night” (1966) or “That’s Life” (1966), “My Way” (1969) or the “Theme from New York, New York” (1977). Truly, he didn’t sound as good. But lesser-than Sinatra was still very interesting.

I have noticed Cher singing differently in some most recent live appearances. But everyone is still loving her doing it. And besides, Cher has sung differently in almost every decade over the last seven. It’s part of this whole, long journey.

While I was thinking about all this, I was finishing up a review of the Farewell Tour TV special (which took me many, many weeks to finish due to its many lengths in all directions and a sudden fourteen day illness). In the interviews for that special, Cher talks about wanting to finish touring while she’s performing at her best and not wanting to hear people say the last tour was better. But then D2K was even better (I thought) in many creative respects. So I’m glad she didn’t stop touring two decades ago.

And then I started watching Dear Mom, Love Cher again (the next TV special I need to document) and in that special Cher is telling her mother, Georgia Holt, she will have to get out there and work to support Georgia’s new album. And Georgia says no, she can’t sing anymore like she used to. (And Georgia is 86 at this time.) But Cher is not having it. She retorts that Georgia was singing with her just now and she could hear her singing just fine. To underscore her point Cher tells Georgia that she (Cher) been in this business for 47 years  (and Cher and Georgia and Paulette Howell, who is offscreen, argue about how many years it really has been and they come back to 47) and Cher knows a thing or two about what she’s talking about.

It seems like the same juncture.

On the special, Cher and Georgia lip sync “I’m Just Your Yesterday” together (a song they recorded in the late 1970s) and for years I’ve been trying not to unhear the post-millennial-Cher singing that song in the track. With earphones on while listening to the DVD this time I could finally hear the late 1970s Cher voice. And  I have always believed that era was her peak voice (for me), the clearest, most confident and free-sounding Cher voice. What if she had stopped singing after that? God help us. We would have missed the Geffen records, the Warner UK records, the later-day duets, the Abba thing, the Christmas album. There are albums I love after the late-70s and even songs I love on albums I don’t fully love.

Earlier in the special Cher also states she does care what people think, just not enough to not do what she wants to do. And to take her at her word at this is to give  much less weight to what anyone thinks about her singing now or at any time.

Then if we go back to one of the Farewell concert special speeches, there a point where Cher is telling young people to “just do it,” to not get hung up in “should I? should I?” I struggle with this myself, quite honestly, but it sounds like sound advice to me (unless to rape and pillage is your thing).

By Cher’s own rubric, she should do the f**k she wants to. She’s done the work; she’s done the time and if she wants to retire and sail around the Riviera (or whatever it is legends do nowadays when they’re not entertaining), she should do it. If she wants to keep belting out loud power ballads or sing soft country numbers or earthy folk songs or whispery Billie Eilish knockoffs or just sing for herself in the shower and the devil-may-care about the rest of us, she should do it.

I, for one, will stay on the train to the end of the line and I’m pretty 100%-sure most of her other fans will, too, come hell or high water.

The Farewell Tour kind of reinforced how impossible Cher self-predictions are anyway. She’ll cross the bridge of her “My Way” when she gets there and so will we then too, when she finally decides we have heard the last song of her.

But I hope Cher is still signing until the very end of the line, until the twelfth of never. And that’s a long, long time.

Because it’s Cher’s 79th birthday today and Georgia is on my mind, let’s revisit the t-shirt her mother Georgia was once spotted in, the one that has Steve Jobs saying “I made Apple” and Bill Gates saying, “I made Microsoft” and Mark Zuckerburg saying, “I made Facebook,” all below a picture of Georgia saying “Bitch please, I made Cher!!”

Happy birthday, Cher.

The Cher Show Musical in Phoenix

The Cher Show traveling musical is now in its second year around the U.S. The closest it has come to me has been Phoenix (or maybe Denver). And those cities are a 7-hour drive in either direction, far from really “close.” And this is not the kind of show I would travel farther than Kansas City to see.  The first incarnation of the traveling show was set to come to our Popejoy Hall on the beautiful campus of the University of New Mexico here in Albuquerque where I have seen many other traveling once-Broadway shows.

But that whole enterprise was cancelled before it began due to COVID. The reboot show has not returned to Albuquerque for some reason. We get plenty of pop and rock shows finding there way to us as a second or third-tier market. Since I’ve been here I’ve seen Elton John (solo, bucket list) at Tingley Coliseum at the city fairgrounds (where my parents once saw Johnny Cash in the 1970s and where Sonny & Cher came to play), Bob Dylan at the Kimo Theater, Sammy Hagar and Don Williams at the surrounding casinos (Route66 and Isleta respectively). I have yet to visit our local amphitheater although I came close to seeing Elvis Costello on tour with Steely Dan there (I had seen Steely Dan already at the Riverport amphitheater, now Hollywood Casino amphitheater in St. Louis).

All to say I’m hoping The Cher Show comes to Popejoy in year three.

But I do have a few friends and relatives in Phoenix and one of them is journalist Robrt Pela, who you may know from previous Cher Scholar conversations and interviews. I decided to head out in that direction for the 28 March 2025 show at The Mesa Arts Center. I really wanted to see it again because the first time was mostly a Broadway blur.

While I was in Cleveland a few months ago moving my parents, Robrt and I did a Phoenix Magazine conversation about the show and then the day before the show we did another brief conversation at the KJZZ studio for NPR. It was the first radio station I’d ever been in and it looked just like any other office space. Later that weekend when I was talking about the experience to my cousin, she asked me what I was expecting and I said WKRP.

Unlike the 2022-23 British version of the tour last year (which had unique costumes, sets and assets), this show appears to be a simplified replica of the Broadway show.

We have a new cast and I’m now noticing the interesting combinations of characters played by single actors. These are the major parts:

  • 1980s Cher, a.k.a. the Star (sometimes called Icon or Badass) played by Morgan Scott in her second year
  • 1970s Cher, a.k.a. the Lady (sometimes called the glam pop star or the Smartass) played by Catherine Ariale in her second year
  • 1960s Cher, a.k.a. the Babe (sometimes called the Kid or the Sweetheart) played by Ella Perez in her second year
  • Sonny played by Lorenzo Pugliese (who played Joe Pesci in a show of Jersey Boys similar to Jarrod Spector who also played Frankie Valli in Jersey Boys on Broadway, which is telling about the crossover of the Sonny role to the Italians in Jersey Boys)
  • Georgia Holt/Lucille Ball played by Kristin Rose Kelleher (the press sheet for this show listed actress Lucy Werner, as does the Wikipedia page) so were we seeing a new, unlisted understudy or has Werner left?)
  • Bob Mackie/Robert Altman/Frank played by Tyler Pirrung
  • Gregg Allman/John Southall played by Zack Zaromatidis (which kind of turns Gregg Allman into a southern-style father figure here, which is not really what he was for Cher)
  • Robert Camilletti played by Brooks Andrew
  • Phil Spector/Sid the Censor/Male ET Reporter played by Kevin Michael Buckley (kind of a subset of villains)
  • Infomercial Director/Digby the Writer played by Mark Tran Russ (another set up even larger villains…these two get a big amount of shade in this musical and, by the way, Digby Wolfe was the head writer on Cher in 1975)

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I like to crowd-watch these things. Most of the audience was comprised of older couples and groups of women. This might because younger people don’t go to these shows. There was one young, gay couple ahead of us who seemed very into it, as did the groups of women around me.

There were a lot of gray-heads, including mine. But talking to my group, we thought we might have skewed younger than most of the crowd.  One blonde woman in the row ahead talked about having bought a Cher doll.

I took notes this time at the risk of looking weird. Which is something I wasn’t willing to do at the Neil Simon Theater on Broadway.

The show started with an audio cacophony of Cher from interviews and other clips. A pack of sailors enters with the 80s-Cher dressed in the Hole fit. This was a hippier, more full-figured Cher. And I like these variations. She was less of a powerhouse of a singing voice than the other two but my group all agreed she had the best talking voice. I don’t see why the “Cher voice” is necessary but people seem to like to understand Cher as this drawling creature (they, likewise, make Sonny cartoonishly nasally) when normal people using normal voices would probably do. My group noted that this show is very old Broadway and I agree that the characters were all broadly played. “Cher puts the Broad in Broadway”…okay I’ll stop now.

One thing this musical does is that it embellishes. This Cher’s holefit had wings. Which is a fiction. Which reminds us, this isn’t a documentary. It’s part fiction. It has embellishments and conflations. Cher never wore wings with her holefits. The holefit was enough.

Likewise, the 60s Cher also was not known for bare midriffs. She showed much less skin in the 1960s. But the archetypical Cher outfit for 60s Cher is a halter top. So 70s Cher is dressed too conservatively and 60s Cher too scantily.

One of the things Robrt Pela and I talk about in the interview is a survey of fans and non-fans I did years ago that amounted to people saying Cher was resilient and strong (as a single impression). The musical underscores how this is only part of the story and really focuses on Cher’s fear and the overcoming of fear. This time I noted all the ways it does this. Cher, according to both this musical and her memoir, never feels naturally, organically strong and fearless. The 60s Cher is especially shy and tentative. Which means, this is something we project on to her as an audience. We see the results not her struggle to get there.

During the scene where Georgia and John Southall, Cher’s step-dad, (as opposed to John Sarkisian, her biological dad), take little Cher to Grauman’s Chinese Theatre, Georgia tells Cher, “life can be scary.” There’s another line about fear, “the real you is terrified.” Another line: “See what happens when you high-kick fear in the butt?” And “being shit scared and facing it anyway.”

One of the effects of seeing a Broadway show is shock and awe, usually from the huge stage sets. My first Broadway show was Sunset Boulevard. And I remember thinking, this set is bigger than my Yonkers apartment! The traveling show has traveling sets which are quite a bit smaller and scaled down. The show relies a lot on projected images and a few, representative pieces, like a dressing table to signify Cher’s childhood house. But thankfully there is still a plethora of wigs, costumes and love beads.

And I found it interesting to watch the show after reading Cher’s 2024 memoir. Because not only do we know the story better now, we get more detail in the book. All the broad strokes are fleshed out. Which makes the show seem super-simplistic. Plus the events are not new to readers anymore. But this show is still a good option for those who don’t read celebrity memoirs.

When Georgia tells the kid Cher (technically is this the fourth Cher?) “you may not be the prettiest, smartest most talented,” I heard the crowd in front audibly laugh/groan. Cher has said this quote from her mother for decades. As time goes by, it has less punch. (The crowd did not agree. I do not agree. Howard Stern did not agree). Contrast this to the very similar Silkwood story about the audience laughing when Cher’s name came up during the previews. We feel great sympathy for Cher but we find that event believable. She was undervalued. It’s the flipside of the Georgia Holt story. Holt is talking to a pre-swanned Cher. There’s dramatic irony going on there added to the fact most of Cher’s fans find Cher prettier than Cher finds herself.

When Cher meets Sonny, she is intimidated and embarrasses herself with some inane small talk, “I’m a taurus” and Sonny responds disdainfully, “I’m a Bono.” This dialogue isn’t in the memoir. The musical also claims Sonny is 28 when they meet instead of 27. The musical also has Cher saying, “I like to run through fields of flowers” which if you’ve seen Good Times…

Our party commented that seeing the characters Bridget and Coleen felt like an Easter-egg and at one point one of them tells Sonny that Cher is “someone who will make you feel ten feet tall.” (This is a very concise, telling and bittersweet line.)

The show conflates Cher’s first two meetings of Phil Spector. According to the memoir, she didn’t actually meet him with Sonny. She had met him before with previous boyfriend Nino Tempo. This is where they had the famous French exchange which is not depicted here. (Spector: “Coulez vous coucher avec moi?”  Cher’s sassy response: “Pour de l’argent.”)

The Spector sessions scene has a great line though, maybe from Sonny: “Like Columbus, the world before Cher was flat.”

The audience engaging in spontaneous clapping gave me cognitive dissonance, to be honest. I’ve been one of a marginalized fan group for so many decades, I initially wonder how non-Cher fans even know these famous tags and triggers? Like S&C coming out to sing “I Got You Babe” (in those furry Sonny boots and there was a story about those in the memoir), or some semi-famous Cher quip, (the line, “I am a rich man”). And then I realize, oh yeah…hundreds of people have now come to a roadshow musical because they actually like Cher (or were dragged here by someone who does…being a Barry Manilow fan didn’t teach me nothin’). Cher’s F.U. Oscar dress eliciting big applause is another example.

The scenes in 60s England were represented with four TV monitors (depicting the flurry of their appearances there) and Union Jacks. Sonny & Cher wear retro-I-Got-You-Babe outfits. Or rather, our shorthanded idea of them, but not exactly it. Similar to Bob Mackie’s recreations for Cher’s “All I Really Want to Do/The Beat Goes On” moments in live shows.

The musical calls them “the world’s first hippies.” Were they though? Possibly. They did fall in between activities of the Beats and the psychedelic bands.

One of the anachronistic things about this musical is the scrambling up of the musical timeline.” When the Money’s Gone” plays with Sonny (so we can re-read this song as Cher’s challenge to Sonny’s love: would he love her without the money she earns for him; and we are left with doubts on this point). My normal distaste for images used in the wrong decade is suspended when song order is scrambled on purpose to raise questions or when lyrics are rewritten for the dramatic situation.

To break it down: we start, of course, with “Turn Back Time” because this is what storytelling is doing. The UK show also included “Believe” in the intro part of the show.

Songs signifying childhood include:

  • Half Breed (Cher is part Armenian and looking dramatically different than her mother and sister)
  • A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes (from Disney’s Cinderella)  (not in the official cast recording)
  • You Better Sit Down Kids (which was changed to “You Better Sit Down Kid” in the UK and traveling US programs and does not get included on the cast recording)
  • Half Breed is then reprised (in the traveling UK and US shows)

Meeting Sonny and Phil Spector-era songs include:

  • Da Do Ron Ron (The Crystals) (not in the cast recording)
  • Be My Baby (The Ronettes) (not in the cast recording)
  • The Shoop Shoop Song (signifying the 60s)
  • I Like It Like That (a Dave Clark Five song in the US/Broadway show that took up valuable real estate for little gain, we thought, and was non included in the UK version or on the cast recording)

Career with Sonny songs include:

  • I Got You Babe
  • Little Man (not in the cast recording)
  • When The Money’s Gone
  • All or Nothing (Not listed in the Phoenix program but I vaguely remember it)
  • Vamp (not in the cast recording)
  • Aint Nobody’s Business If I Do (the Mackie parade)
  • Bang Bang (only in UK and traveling US show)
  • Living in  House Divided (a rare treat)
  • Bang Bang (Reprise for UK and traveling US shows)
  • Believe (Ballad)
  • All I Ever Need Is You (UK position only, the song is moved to Act II for the US shows)
  • Song for the Lonely (interesting end for the Sonny-era)

Solo/Gregg Allman Era songs include:

  • All I Ever Need Is You (US shows only)
  • Heart of Stone (US shows only)
  • Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves
  • Midnight Rider (Gregg Allman)
  • Ramblin’ Man (The Allman Brothers Band) (US shows only)
  • Just Like Jesse James
  • Believe (UK only)
  • Dark Lady
  • Baby Don’t Go (Sonny’s departure) (not in the cast recording)

Post Husbands/Movie Era songs include:

  • Strong Enough
  • When the Money’s Gone (not in the cast recording)
  • The Way of Love (as an acting performance)’
  • The Beat Goes On (movie montage)
  • It Don’t Come Easy (Phoenix show program) (the Ringo Starr song? I don’t remember this)
  • D’ove L’amore (UK only)
  • I Found Someone (video with Robert Camilletti)

Last songs include:

  • A Different Kind of Love Song  (UK only)
  • Heart of Stone (UK position only)
  • We All Sleep Alone (UK only, removed August 2022)
  • Song for the Lonely (UK added August 2022)
  • I Got You Babe Reprise (UK and US traveling shows only)
  • You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me (Broadway and UK only)
  • I Hope You Find It (UK shows in my program but not on Wikipedia)
  • A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes Reprise (US shows only according to my UK program but not listed on Wikipedia and also not in the cast recording)

Finale Medley (US traveling show didn’t list the medley they played)

  • Believe
  • Strong Enough
  • Woman’s World
  • You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me (Broadway only)
  • D’ove L’amore (UK only)
  • Shoop Shoop Song (UK only)
  • I Found Someone (UK only)
  • Believe Again (UK only)
  • Take Me Home (Curtain Call, US only)

So you can see how the songs were used out of order to further the plot. This makes the show a new thing and not just a kind of Review of her existing songs. You can’t sing along to this.  Songs are put into dramatic medleys and used as segues.

I did not know this until Robrt told me but “When the Money’s Gone” is a cover of Bruce Roberts (1995). A nice, sweet version with juicy alternative lines like “Shred the credit cards/just like Watergate” and “black and white TV. When the weekend comes, we can watch Pee Wee.”)

The scene with the television show seem rough as it’s mostly about Sonny’s slave-driving and temper. The joy of working, depicted in the memoir, is absent from the musical. There are lines about bad writing, too, (which is a bit unfair considering the cultural work the show did for women) and there’s a line from about Cher being dismissed with “it’s all about the clothes anyway” which goes into the James Brown song “It’s a Man’s World” (in my notes but not depicted in any of the show programs). This was probably true but it doesn’t map to the memoir, where the censors were discussed but not so much the struggles to work around bad writing. Besides, some of those writers went on to do big things (Steve Martin, Bob Einstein). The musical is dismissive without details.

The big Bob Mackie number really wowed the Broadway crowd. I checked my program pics to confirm this but this show’s parade of outfits couldn’t be track back to real Cher outfits as easily in the traveling show. The Broadway show had recreations of the real iconic Cher outfits: the Ringmaster, one of her recent live Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves outfits, the D2K opener, Laverne, the Rhinestone Cowboy fit from the solo TV show. There was a male dancer in the Phoenix show in drag wearing the Take-Me-Home-Viking-fit with a bare ass that got a big laugh. Looking back at my Broadway program, it was a male dancer in the Half-Breed outfit for that show. So, similar to the UK show, the costumes have been reworked and made “in the style” of Cher, aside from one or two emblematic efforts (like the “I Got You Babe” outfits and the “Take Me Home” one).

The woman next to me would grunt whenever Sonny said something sexist or mean, like she was feeling it viscerally. In fact, there was applauding when Sonny was finally shuffled out of Cher’s life. That seemed harsh, even though Sonny was harsh himself. Sonny was played so broadly, as we’ve said, his scary lines seemed super-scary. And Sonny did have his scary moments but they were conflated here with his controlling moments. For example, he slammed a wall in their 60s kitchen, not a glass mirror in their 70s dressing room (according to the memoir).

The Gregg Allman part never ceases to feel very kitschy. I mean, Gregg Allman…as a character…in a big, broad musical? Singing Cher songs? A Gregg Allman impersonator? It’s just so wonderfully weird. He sings pieces of “Midnight Rider” and “Ramblin’ Man” which reminds me of a meme my friend Coolia just sent me (unrelated):

Sonny and Gregg Allman expressing their discomfort in stepping over each other in Cher’s life during the late 1970s via the song “Dark Lady” and Cher’s duet with Allman on “Just Like Jesse James” are strangely satisfying for the audience.

They mistakenly call the post-solo, reboot of the Sonny & Cher Show, the Comedy Hour and the show wasn’t cancelled after a half a season as the musical states, more like two half seasons and 34 episodes.

In the Robert Altman (discovering Cher as an actress) scene, the audience laughed at Cher’s casual Popeye comment and in this case the musical elaborated farther than the memoir did, having Cher qualify her critique: “It was just so dark.”

There was another line in the musical about there being basically two emotions, fear and love and love is the better side of it because it’s full of vulnerability. (Which is very astute.)

The infomercial filming seemed revealingly harsh, the depiction of the director. That didn’t seem pleasant.

And even though they cheered when he exited, we all got teary when Sonny came back as a ghost. Cher still needed to talk to him.

The Assets

This show has no swag. I tried to remember the traveling shows of my youth and can’t remember swag at the outdoor Muny theater in St. Louis either after Show Boat. But then, I wouldn’t have gone looking for it.

On my ticket, this introduction was printed: “Superstars come and go. Cher is forever. For six straight decades, only one unstoppable force that has flat-out dominated popular culture – breaking down barriers, pushing boundaries and letting nothing and no one stand in her way.” [Ok that sentence is a bit much. Things did, in fact, stand in her way quite often], the kid, the glam pop star and the icon. 35 smash hits, two rock-star husbands, a Grammy, Oscar, Emmy…enough…Bob Mackie gowns to create a sequin shortage in New York City, all in one unabashedly fabulous new musical that will have audience dancing in the aisles!”

Well, in Phoenix they weren’t.

While we were all talking about how we became Cher fans, I told the story of starting out as a Sonny & Cher fan, how I loved their charisma, their glamour (another visiting cousin confided to me last weekend she had a crush on Sonny), their glamour and how they were never boring. How Cher has carried on that tradition and how I can now enjoy being a fan through scholarly digs and also the same childhood delight.

Impersonators can’t recreate that. The impersonation gets in the way.

Robrt and I also talked about how this show is about anxiety and fear as much as resilience. About the great wall of fear. And how Cher’s impact and legacy may still be evolving in these very times of political fear. We’re gonna need these lessons in overcoming anxiety. This is a time when the powers in place want to put women and minority groups back in our place (their words). And therefore, this musical takes on a practical value, being as much about vulnerability as it is about heroics. We see Cher doing this work of encouraging us during her Hall of Fame speech last October: “don’t give up, you belong here.”

At least, it affects me that way personally.

This musical is one of the lucky things we have now that provide meaning for the last seven decades of Cher: music, a musical, a memoir, dolls, perfumes, a skin care line, a Vegas poker machine, cookbooks, maybe someday a movie, a video game, a board game, who knows.

Cher’s Recent Live Appearances

The Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show (15 October 2024)

This whole new Cher season started with this fashion show in October of 2024. Cher sang two songs surrounded by models dancing on the runway. There was a big, fabulous ELVIS-like Cher sign in lights behind her that became a grid of lights as she sang. The amazing thing to me was that she still managed to steal focus from these amazingly beautiful women. At 78 years old.

She sang “Strong Enough” and “Believe.” She hasn’t performed “Strong Enough” live much outside of the days when it was a single during the Believe-era so this was nice surprise. Her voice sounds huskier but she still sounded great. She sang with dancers here who by the end of the song build her a gold pedestal. We see the models watching from backstage. Their faces!

Then when Cher sings “Believe” from the gold pedestal, the models come out. Even in bright red underthings with Dr. Seussian attachments that would seem a bit dangerous to navigate in amorous situations (my favorite was the gargantuan boa cape because it looks so soft), Cher still commands the stage. You can see the models singing along as they walk. The changeup at the end of the song. It’s all great.

Although normally fashion shows bore me to tears (aside from seeing what Cher wore to some of them), this was my favorite performances of this season.

Full Show (min 29)

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (19 October 2024)

I wrote about this at length in another post. As a full, 5-hour concert, the event was fun. But Cher’s opening numbers, both “Believe” with Dua Lipa  and “Turn Back Time” were both lackluster. Especially for an event that has often put on some showstoppers. The bar is set high. My party felt  the show started with Cher to open with a fun sort of celebratory bang. But her set wasn’t even as fun and high energy as Kool and the Gang, who came on later.  It wasn’t even as fun as the Victoria’s Secret performance days earlier. It also felt like Cher was struggling through “Turn Back Time.”

But hey, while I was researching this little blurb, I found an article that insisted Cher’s performance was full of “joy and defiance” so maybe it was just me.

SNL 50: Homecoming Concert Special (14 February 2025)

So I have cut down on my streaming channels and I do not have Peacock. I did not get to see this full concert. I only watched Cher’s parts and followed the viral commentary that followed it. So I have no idea where her song fell into the whole show.

Now this performance of “Turn Back Time” was a bit better sounding than the Hall of Fame version (but still a bit of a struggle) but what saved it was the return of her swagger and confidence.

What went viral, however, was all the attention paid to audience reactions, particularly Kevin Costner’s for some reason. His reaction was subdued but he looked like he was really enjoying it. Everyone was talking about Costner almost crushing on Cher for days after the show. And I thought it was kind of overkill because it reminded me of his appearance in Madonna’s documentary Truth or Dare. He was very enthusiastic about Madonna’s live show in that movie and Madonna infamously made fun of it. So we’ve seen Costner appreciating female pop stars. It doesn’t feel special or new. And are we picking on him at this point?

Now Leslie Jones screaming. And what about John Hamm handsomely appreciating Cher? And was that Keegan-Michael Key at the beginning? (I love him.)

Another shocking aspect of the night was the backstage photos of Cher with the rockstars Jack White and Eddie Vedder! And the fact that Jack White put the pictures up on his Instagram. Not expected! One of my friends even surmised it must have been AI, that’s how shocking it was.

And then there was that super cool reel of Cher’s warmup backstage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYnyqMuQGE8

It feels like we’re on another plane here, past the cultural moments of the Hall of Fame and memoir, from legend going into myth.

SNL 50: The Homecoming Concert Special

SNL 50: Celebrity Audience Q&A  (16 February 2025)

And speaking of Costner, a few days after the concert, Cher appeared on the official SNL 50 Special. I tried to record this but muffed it and only taped the red carpet part of the show by mistake. This made me sad because everyone said how funny the show was. But thanks to the Internets I was able to see Cher’s part in the Audience Q&A skit run by Amy Poehler and Tina Fey.

Kevin Costner can be seen seated next to Cher but never smiling. So maybe that was awkward.  Amy Poehler says, “Cher, you have a question…” and Cher says, “Uh no. I don’t. I got a lotta answers.” (This gets a smile out of Costner.)

This was followed by a Keith Richards question about a scarf he’s been missing from a 1988 SNL appearance that ends up on Zach Galifianakis’ head.

SNL 50: Celebrity Audience Q&A

 

Love Rocks NYC Benefit Concert (6 March 2025)

Cher has said she regretted not responding soon enough to have been involved in the concert organized to help survivors of January’s fires in Los Angeles. And maybe this is why she signed on to this NYC benefit concert.

Prior to the show, she visited the food bank God’s Love We Deliver.

At the event, Cher sang “Walking in Memphis,” Song For the Lonely,” “Believe” and with the larger group, “Higher Ground.“

Cher surprised everyone by not only doing songs she rarely sings on television (“Walking in Memphis”) but songs she hasn’t even done live in many years (“Song for the Lonely”). She always seems so tiny in male drag. Cher does a spoken introduction to “Song for the Lonely” and what the song means to her. She does better with this song than “Memphis.”

All songs show their videos behind her when she sings and Cher wears the outfit for the “Song for the Lonely” video. Dancers join her for this. I love the funky “Strong Enough” version between “Song for the Lonely” and “Believe.” She’s dressing down for this in a pink jacket over a sparkly top (that we can barely see) and black pants. A few more dancers, cuts to the audience dancing.

“Higher Ground” felt like a makeup moment for the Hall of Fame, too, since there was no group performance last year. Plus I love this song. Any version of it. Cher singing the group song next to Trey Anastasio from Phish also went a bit viral after the show because Anastasio looked like he was having such a good time.

Days later, he did a tribute to Cher by singing “I Got You Babe” when he launched his solo tour.

After the show were more amazing backstage photos with Cher’s crush Michael McDonald (although they didn’t interact much during the group song), Dave Stewart and guitarist Grace Bowers.

Cher Songs on Rolling Stone’s List of Greatest Songs

Another deep dive.

In late 2024 I came across an online Rolling Stone Magazine article introducing a podcast called “Why Cher’s ‘Believe’ Has Ruled Dance Floors for Nearly Three Decades.”

Rolling Stone had just come out with a 2024 list of their take on the 500 greatest popular songs and “Believe” had made this list. This was interesting to me for two reasons. One, it allowed me another thought-dive into “Believe” and also it reminded me of Cher’s appearances on previous RS lists and how arbitrary these lists are.

1988

Let’s go back in time. Back when I was in high school in St. Louis I had a subscription to Rolling Stone. The September 8, 1988, issue included a list of “100 Best Singles of the Last Twenty Five Years.” Around that time there had been a best albums issue already and my brother Randy (home from college) and I had had a friendly competition to see who had the most albums on the list. Very surprisingly, we tied. (Five years younger, I was fully prepared to lose.)

But anyway, on this 1988 list, which I recently dug out of the Chersonian Institute’s archives, there was one Cher song. Well, almost one song. It was really the Sonny Bono /Jack Nitzsche penned “Needles and Pins” which ranked at #64 between Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart” and Jimi Hendrix’s “All Along the Watchtower.”

To put things in perspective, the #1 and #2 songs on this 1988 list were “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” by the Rolling Stones and “Like a Rolling Stone” by Bob Dylan. Which seems a bit to much rolling stone considering the name of the magazine.

The paragraph write-up about “Needles and Pins” talked about how the 1964 Searchers version had done something “formidable,” in that it “introduced the twelve-string sound, which would become a staple of American bands from The Byrds to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.” Searchers guitarists McNally and Pender then talked about how this came to be by accident.

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This RS write up only mentions one other version of the song, Jackie DeShannon’s 1963 original version. It doesn’t mention Cher’s 1966 version. But then neither does the Wikipedia page on the song, which mention’s the 1977 European hit version by Smokie, the Ramones version in 1978, Tom Petty’s 1985 live version and a smooth 1999 version by Willie DeVille.

But there are others. Here is a sampling:

(After listening to all of these, I need to listen to the inverse song, “Pins and Needles” by Kristina Train just to reset the machine between my ears.)

But nothing was said about the songwriters and plenty more could be said about Sonny’s “best friend” as Cher said in her Memoir of Jack Nitzsche who would go on to become the arranger for Phil Spector during the Wall of Sound era. Nitzsche is often given the most credit for his work on “River Deep Mountain High” with Ike and Tina Turner. He also worked with The Rolling Stones and did the choral arrangements for “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” He would go on to write the scores for movies like Performance, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and The Exorcist and co-wrote “Up Where We Belong” for the movie An Officer and a Gentleman.

2004

But sadly, “Needles and Pins” wouldn’t stay on the next incarnations of RS lists. By 2004 there was an expanded list of 500 songs. And Sonny & Cher allegedly made that list where “I Got You Babe” ranked at #451. By this time, the top two songs had switched spots. “Like a Rolling Stone” by Bob Dylan was #1 and “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” by the Rolling Stones was #2.

2021-2024

On the RS 2021 list, (which started from scratch and then was updated in 2024 with songs from 2021 to early 2024), “I Got You Babe” had fallen off but “Believe” had landed at #338. (I’m not sure if that position maintained between 2021 and 2024 because I haven’t seen the official RS 2021 list. The song may have been at #337 in 2021.)

So “Believe” remains the Cher song on the list. I would not die on the “Believe” hill, as I’ve often said, but “Believe” did introduce a technical trick that became very popular, I guess like the twelve-string in “Needles and Pins.” But that doesn’t mean it was a well-constructed, conceived or a well-written song. It’s value will be remembered in its production. But “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves” had production values that have also stood the test of time. And none of this even speaks to the metaphorical or literary values of a song. Among Sonny’s cowboy songs, for example. “Bang Bang” is certainly undervalued. Or songs that became part of the common lexicon, like “The Beat Goes On” or Diane Warren’s “Turn Back Time” which not only became a meme but has become a yearly meme for the end of daylight savings.

Or maybe it just comes down to votes not values. Where would we be without lists to argue about, I guess.

Music journalists Rob Sheffield (whose 2024 book Heartbreak Is the National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music I just purchased to try to understand that whole phenom) and Brittany Spanos chose “Believe” as one of the 25 songs they would discuss on a podcast created for the 2024 list. And their 6 August 2024  discussion was not only thoughtful and fascinating, as it put thoughtful context around Cher’s entire career, but it also explained how the song “Believe” landed for kids in Great Britain.

I myself did not experience “Believe” as a kid or teen. I was 26 years old and living in Yonkers, New York, hearing the song while driving home from work at Yonkers Contracting and following the song’s weekly charting from my crappy apartment along the Hudson River. I remember being somewhat baffled after coming upon NPR discussing the song one day on my car radio. It was kind of cognitive dissonance for me. Why this song?  So this podcast was interesting to me in that it explains how the song held meaning for an age group that wasn’t mine.

Sheffield and Spanos begin by calling the song “actually perfect…a perfect song,” one that represents the “whole, story, legacy and madness that is pop music.” Spanos says it’s also a song that is “part of the grand story of Cher” and she talks about the ups and downs of her career (big success, big flops and disappearances) and how over the last decade there has been “newfound appreciation” for Cher,” a “Cher revival.” Sheffield talks about the “synthi-ness of the chorus and vocal,” how “new and exciting” it was among other typically Cher-sounding Cher hits of the 1990s. (I think he means 1980s or maybe the late 1980s into the early 1990s, which was the span of her big Geffen-era hits). He said this was a “Cher-like” song on a whole new level.

Spanos talks about being at a friend’s house watching Spice World as a kid and the mother of her friend put  on the DVD for what sounds like the live Farewell tour with the instruction to “pay attention to the wigs.” Spanos says that instruction changed her life. She starts talking about Cher’s history with Sonny. She mistakenly says Sonny was 32 when they met. (Sonny was born in 1935, Cher in 1946. Cher was 16 when they met, Sonny was 27.) Spanos talks about their early pop-folk hits. Sheffield comes in discussing their variety show, how kids would tune in to see which music artists would show that week to perform songs. He said it was a “weekly education in music. They were the DJs.” (This is  overstating it a bit considering the musical acts were often people like Joey Heatherton and Merv Griffin.)

Spanos goes back to talk about the “country/rock covers” of Jackson Highway album and how critics panned it at the time but that it’s actually “a great album.” The digress to say Cher’s swampy “Tonight I’ll Be Staying Here With You” is one of the “greatest versions of a Bob Dylan song.” (They make a joke about “outsung, outsold” that I am on the outside of). Sheffield says Cher’s “Bob Dylan connection itself could take up three whole episodes.”

They then cover her solo TV work of the 1970s. Sheffield says Cher would “steal from everything” and she had “wide open taste.” They talk about the “astounding” performance with David Bowie on her solo TV show, the “insane medley,” one of the “freakiest things ever to air on network TV.” Sheffield then brings up the “insane” West Side Story performance from her 1978 TV special.  Spanos also notes Cher as being “integral in bringing Tina Turner back” on TV for multiple appearances when she was trying to relaunch as a solo artist.

Spanos says Cher then stared a band called Black Roses. She says Black Roses three times incorrectly. (It’s Black Rose). They talk about Spanos’ love of the Broadway Cher musical, how she particularly liked the fictional duet between one of the Chers and Gregg Allman doing the Diane Warren song “Just Like Jesse James.” She did not like the actual duet album which they mistakenly mispronounce (as Howard Stern also did in his 2024 Cher interview) as All Man and Woman. The correct title is Allman and Woman. There is no space between All and Man. It’s literally Gregg Allman’s name, as in Gregg and his woman (oy vey) and not some kind of traditional declaration of gender roles. (This is like trying to differentiate between caveman version 1 and caveman version 2.)

Anyway, Spanos says she cried several times during the musical and they call Cher and Gregg, “an incredible couple.” And I think it is nice that a kind of revisionist kindness in reconsidering this union in a new light these days. Sheffield highly recommends Allman’s memoir, My Cross to Bear, and tells of a Cher story in it where Gregg Allman is trying to pick Cher up for their first date in a limo and Cher exclaims that she will not ride in a funeral car and so they take her Mercedes.

Spanos talks about how Cher is “an experimental person.” Sheffield agrees saying Cher would “do anything” and was “not bothered by genre,” be it disco, southern rock, glam rock, hard rock or a medley or West Side Story songs. He says “she is part of every story in pop music.” Spanos says Cher has been “proven right by history” and critics are looking back and re-evaluating her, seeing that her voice does indeed “sound great” singing in multiple styles. They talk about how every year people rediscover the West Side Story clip and how “insane and fun” it is to watch.

Sheffield goes into Cher’s 80s decade of movies, how “she did it the hard way,” how she had no celebrity inside track to movie roles, how Silkwood was not a Cher-type role and how many actresses saw playing lesbian roles as a “career killer move.” “It cannot be stressed” enough, Sheffield says, how “bold and unprecedented and unexpected and unremarked-upon at the time that was.” Spanos talks about the iconic, respected actors Cher co-starred with and how Cher “is holding her own” along side them. Sheffield calls her performance in Mask “astounding,” that she played a working-class biker mom, a character that was very “unglamourous, gritty and unsaintly.” Spanos says that in all Cher’s movie roles she was de-glamming, dressing down, playing an everywoman.” And at the same time, she was having hits like “Turn Back Time,” balancing her gritty acting roles with glam-Cher music moments, keep her acting career going while relaunching as a rock vocalist. Spanos talks about the the “Turn Back Time” video “onesie” outfit. Sheffield enthusiastically remembers “the entire U.S. Navy” on the war ship.

They then talk about the struggles of the 1990s and Cher’s battle with the Epstein-Barr Virus, how she was seen (again) as “past her prime.” There were the informercials and the Writing Camp album (Not Commercial) recorded in 1994 but not released until 2000. Spanos calls it an introspective “great album, one of the first Internet-only releases.” They talk about her reunions with Sonny and his death in 1998. Spanos recalls Cher’s “stunning” and “heartbroken” eulogy for Sonny and how the loss of someone so transformative might have affected her performance in “Believe.”

As they set up talking about “Believe,” they acknowledge that Cher was seen as “washed up” for the first time in her late teens! She’s now in her 50s. She was “not expected to be still going into her 30s.” The song becomes thematic of her resilience. Spanos calls it “one of the great dance songs of all time” and she explains how it arrived during the dance renaissance of the late 90s, the “euro dance club wave,” that the song was an “unexpected sound from a 50 year old.”

They talk about the popularity of what became known as Auto Tune, how the song was ahead by decades in its influence on rap artists like T-Pain and Kanye West. Sheffield clarifies that it is not a vocoder but pitch correction and Spanos talks about how the song is “one of the great hopeful, euphoric dance songs” and how “do you believe in life after love” is a “gutting line.” (Because how common it is to feel like life itself cannot go on after a great, failed love.) They talk about the song in the context of Cher’s 1990s “major health issues” and her “uncertain future,” losing Sonny, one of the great loves of her life…a great love.” Sheffield says the technology is not used to hide” or “to fix flaws,” that the technology “is flaunted” and that right around “the self-doubting part of the song” you get this “flutter” and “vocal pirouette,” that the song is “blatantly digital” and “robotic” in a way that “makes it sound more human.” Cher “expresses a part of the song by altering her voice.”

Spanos talks about how the producer Mark Taylor wanted to experiment with the pitch correction and Cher wasn’t afraid of it. They claim, as does Cher, that the song “changed pop music” and they remind us that the record won a Grammy. Spanos said the song also made people re-evaluate artists in their 50s, especially women, that hitting the age of 50 need not mean the end of one’s chart-making career. Spanos insists that “Cher only gets more popular every single year” and that she’s a “beloved figure in entertainment history.” She talks about Cher’s “remarkable Twitter account” and Sheffield thinks that Twitter “will only be remembered as part of Cher’s timeline.”

(I believe the Twitter/Cher thing is long past. Cher moved to posting social media content on Instagram years ago as her primary social media. Twitter, in the meantime, will probably be remembered more for its entanglement into the fascist politics of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.)

After a commercial break, the hosts introduce Rod Thomas (Bright Light Bright Light), a DJ, artist and producer. Spanos and Sheffield thank him and he says “it’s not exactly a hardship to talk about this lady or this song.” They ask him about his first experiences with Cher and he talks about how his parents were into the Beatles (he was born in 1982) and how Cher was a famous movie actress when he was growing up. He said the first time he paid attention to her as a music artist was on the album It’s a Man’s World. He talks about loving Junior Vasquez’s “One by One” remix but that it wasn’t a hit. He says he “ran out to buy” the “Believe” CD at Woolworth’s in his hometown of Neath, Wales. They joke that Cher was on her 4th or 5th life by that time. Thomas says, “Everyone in school was talking about it, the straight kids, the weird kids, the bullies, the popular kids. Everyone was playing it. You heard it everywhere.” He feels it was the fist time there was “an all-engulfing wave around an artist everyone knew.”  It was a song everyone loved. He feels “Believe” is a “very British-centric sound” and he credits that to songwriter/producer Brian Higgins. He said the song really feels like “you’re in a British gay club.” He thinks the phenomenon was helped by the show Queer as Folk. People then were listening to “really gay music, like Gina G and The Spice Girls”. Very camp. And he believes the song was a legitimate “British gay anthem.”

Spanos says she likes to think about where music started and ended in the 1990s, from grunge to pop-punk to euro pop and House Music like “Believe.” Thomas says it was a time when “everyone was on the same page for a moment in British pop culture.” Whether you were straight or gay, whether you were in coffeehouses, clubs or a shopping center and how unusual that was, “especially for a heritage artist that traditionally younger kids wouldn’t gravitate to.”

They talk about the song being a #1 hit worldwide, a song Sheffield calls “immortal,” a song that you “instantly knew …was a timeless song. Thomas claims that Cher hates the song and how regrettable this is. He says there is a famous interview where she talks about hating how ubiquitous the song was at the time. I don’t remember this from any of the U.S. interviews. Thomas toured with Cher and might have seen a UK interview where she said this.

Thomas says that every time he works as a DJ, someone will request “Believe” and that it’s a “very mixed bag of gender, age and demographic.” “Everyone dances to this song. People melt in these ephemeral things and go feral.”

They ask Thomas where he was when he first danced to the song. He describes a British club called H2O that had three floors: a bar, a restaurant and a club at the top. He says you would hear the song playing on every single floor and that the upstairs club would play the song at least once or twice each night. He says the song represents “a specific sound and a specific moment in time.” He says Brian Higgins went on to do some great stuff but that this song “was a pivotal moment for him, for Cher, for British pop culture and for music.”

Thomas says the song “changed ageism” and put the focus on the song over the artist. Sheffield says Cher had “built her legend already” but that this song “invented a new Cher.” They then talk about Cher’s look around that time, her “wiggery.” How wonderful and cool it was. How her look was “trashy and fabulous…shimmery….” what Thomas calls “gaudy and tasteless but also fabulous and cool.” He also talks about how amazing her voice sounded on the record. “Her voice is perfect.” How the production was perfect and the genius of the technology. Of the Cher Effect, he says, “everyone was doing it in school” (imitating it) and how the song was at its peak for “many, many months.”

Sheffield talks about being at the punk show Mannequin Pussy recently and the venue was trying to “shoo everyone out” but “Believe” came on and then “no one would leave.” Thomas says, “that’s not even my favorite song on that record.” He talks about opening for Cher for nine shows across Europe and how he first saw her show in Brooklyn. He references the video montages and her other dance songs (“Strong Enough” and  “All or Nothing”), but when “Believe” came up “you could feel the room lift,” how fans were there “from every conceivable living age bracket” and that this song brings them all together. He says, “it was amazing to watch it.”

 

Cher and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Experience

So we have another marathon item to get through, from way back to last October. I’ve broken it up into parts to help us digest it.

I was able to attend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction “ceremony”
last year, despite my ambivalence about it, because my friend Julie motivated me to go (and she’s a fun person to attend a concert with and she loves Ozzy Osbourne who was also being inducted). Also because the show happened to be in Cleveland (where I was spending a lot of time in 2024), and because it was a chance for me to see a concert with my brother, Randy, who lives in Cleveland.

The whole weekend turned out to be a lot of fun, but this still didn’t resolve my continuing ambivalence about the institution. We’ve discussed before the issues with the gatekeepers, the issues with halls of fame, the issues with institutionalizing rock music. But there’s also the issue of rock music itself.

A very telling incident happened when Julie and I were touring the Hall of Fame the day before the live show. We passed a group of young kids, mostly girls, (late grade school, early middle school?) at the Hall of Fame on a field trip with their Catholic School. This made my friend Julie, who spent a childhood in Catholic schools, very very annoyed. She kept telling me that back when she was a KISS-loving kid in Catholic school, the nuns kept telling them rock music was the music of the devil. Now it’s become a field trip for young Catholic kids, like going to see how Wonder Bread is made.

And I’ve been to the Hall of Fame twice now and when I was there most of the people visiting had gray hair. I do see some youthful strays wandering around respectfully but that’s not the majority. And I love rock music myself, but then I’m a happy-gray-haired too. I often find myself telling Millennials and younger friends who old rock groups are, like KISS. (Hell, last weekend I had to explain to them who Vincent Price was.) It’s not quite the music of the world’s youth any more. And that’s okay. It’s the natural order of things. If it wasn’t we’d all still be talking about how swell Rosemary Clooney and Bing Crosby still are.

I read an essay on poetry movements recently where the author observed that things written in resistance eventually become “the new national tradition.” Rock and roll is no longer the language of resistance; it has lost its currency of resistance. It’s now tradition. And the Hall of Fame just underlines that fact. Many of its practitioners and listeners have been taken into the grips of nostalgia, just like their parents before them. As they say, what goes around…. And nostalgia is pretty much antithetical to progress.

Which is why the genre has teetered conservative over the decades. It’s practitioners are no longer young rebels. It’s listeners are no longer young rebels. Rock and Roll is a genre that is over 70s years old. For that matter, at 50 years old, RAP music is also quite long in the tooth.

And who likes to admit their own culture has moved on? Nobody. I had a bit of an existential crisis myself the night David Letterman went off the air because soon I’ll be explaining to young people who he is. But that’s a fact of aging and having sex and babies being constantly born with prospects of future musical genres twinkling in the fresh little eyes. Welcome to the human race.

So if Cher had never been inducted into this basically nostalgic circle jerk, it wouldn’t have bothered me. If you can keep a career going longer than rock music itself, I don’t see that as a bad thing, all things considered.

Aim bigger, I say.

And to be clear, I am not trying to culturally disenfranchise old people in pursuit of the often-suffocating cult of youth. Virtuosity will always skew older. Wisdom will always skew older. This is simply a perspective check. Why did we set such narrow limits on the celebration of contemporary music in the first place? It was generational hubris.

But for all of that, I am going to now fan-girl on a few of these aging rock stars below. Including Cher.

The 2024 Inductee Insights Video

The Hall of Fame developed  a short film series for each artist before the induction called “2024 Inductee Insights.” Cher’s six minute film includes the songs “Believe,” “Bang Bang,” “I Got You Babe,” “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves,” “Turn Back Time,” “I Found Someone” and “Woman’s World.”

It begins showing clips from Cher’s “Believe” video cut with her receiving awards, performing in music videos and on television performances and then, oddly, scenes from the movie Chastity. “The one and only Cher has used her distinctive voice, stage presence and avant garde fashion to achieve unprecedented success while blazing a trail for women artists. A woman who personifies feminine, creative freedom in a male dominated industry.”.

I would add that she blazed a trail for gay male artists, too. They delve into her biography, how she was born in El Centro, California, and grew up wanting to be an actress but got sidetracked working for Phil Spector. “During this time,” the video says, she met Sonny and they got married blah blah blah. I keep seeing this error in recent stories about Cher. As the Memoir confirms, Cher did not meet Sonny while working for Phil Spector.  She already knew Sonny and Sonny brought her to the Spector sessions purposefully and strategically (gold star for Sonny there, pun intended). And the problem with the statement is that it implies Cher came to ideas about a music career on her own, before Sonny. She did not. The video also incorrectly claims she was an extra on the television show Ozzy and Harriet. She was not, but her mother, Georgia Holt, was.

The video claims Cher was obviously  “the shining star of the pair” but her stage freight made them a duo. “I Got You Babe” was a “definitive musical moment for the early hippie counterculture.” They go into her solo hits, somewhat out of order, but okay. {The show a variety show clip of Cher singing “Gypsies” while talking about her life in the late 60s. (My poor soul right now.)

“In a society that idolized blonds” Cher became an idol for dark-haired girls. They saw themselves in her.”

Digression point: I guess that’s true in a way, but many of us did not exactly ever see ourselves in Cher because that was too much of a stretch. We were just happy to see some dark-haired lady being idolized on television. That’s not to say we didn’t see ourselves in other television characters. I recently started watching The Mary Tyler Moore Show again and in episode 4, we meet this girl named Sparkle (Pat Finley, the actress who played, in a much more serious way, the sister of Newhart on The Bob Newhart Show and also the wife of Becker on The Rockford Files). I grew up seeing myself as some kind of amalgamation of the annoying buttoned-up, toxic positivity of Sparkle and the milk-toast, squeamishly-waspy Mary Richards.

Digression to the digression: I used to hate the very sound of Tyler Moore’s voice when these shows first aired in the 1970s and as a namesake, her nebbishness horrified me. Is that what it meant to be a Mary? But one of the beautiful points of the show, which I would come to see as a young adult watching the show’s reruns on Nick at Nite in the 1990s, is that sometimes women who feel unassertive can find strategies to be very effective and assertive. Marge Gunderson, Frances McDormand’s character in the movie Fargo, is another wonderful example of this.

But anyway, I have always felt my person to be this unsatisfying Sparkle/Mary combination, not great identifiers, but accurate I have for a long time begrudgingly accepted. But Mr. Cher Scholar likes to tell me (often) that the way I see myself is pretty far off from how other people see me. So I told him my theory last night and asked him to weigh in: was I more or a Mary, a Sparkle, a Rhoda or a Phyllis? He thought about it for a second and said I was definitely a Rhoda. I’m too much of a wiseacre to be a Mary, he said. (I guess he has a point; Mary Richards would never say ‘nostalgic circle jerk.’) And I wasn’t a Sparkle or Phyllis. I was positive he was going to agree that I was an amalgamation of the milk-toast Mary and the toxically positive Sparkle. Rhoda is my favorite, for sure, but I never in a million years saw myself as a mile within the vicinity of Rhoda. But that was very good news…for me anyway, if not for him.

The next day I came back with three more ladies of the 1970s: Shirley Feeney (Cindy Williams from Laverne & Shirley, not too dramatically different from my high school experience), Rhoda or Emily Hartley (played by Suzanne Pleshette on The Bob Newhart Show). He changed the Rhoda to Emily Hartley, which is not bad news either. By the way, this game is much harder to play in reverse. Mr. Cher Scholar was a dead ringer for Rickey Schroder as a kid, but as an adult he’s mostly impossible to place.

 

But back to the Cher Insights video…it goes on to talk about Sonny & Cher’s “string of successful albums” and we see their album covers, one of which was very unsuccessful, Mama Was a Rock and Roll Singer… and then they show the wrong cover for All I Ever Need Is You. The videos talks about the couple’s “chemistry onstage.”

They then turn to Cher’s focus on acting and her “acclaimed roles” in Silkwood, Mask and Moonstruck.

“But she always turned back to music.” So true.

They mention she has been active for “more than five decades” (the museum exhibit just says six) and that she has continually “reinvented her image and mastered multiple music styles” including the earthy folk pop of “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves”, (more narrative pop, really; “I Got You Babe” was the folk pop), the melodic disco of Take Me Home,” power ballads like “I Found Someone” (they show the music video clip of her slapping boyfriend Robert Camilletti here). “Cher’s versatility is ever present.”

They then come back to the “quintessential dance pop classic” of “Believe” which “pioneered auto tune as an artistic tool” and that this “worldwide hit” became an “enduring queer anthem.” This feels a bit reductive only because the song had major cross-over appeal (we’ll explore this more in an upcoming post about a podcast about the song.) The video talks about her being an ally of LGBTQIA+ and how she has  influenced other trailblazing artists like Madonna, Beyonce and Lady Gaga.  Why do they keep listing those same three? Were there any male artists they could have found? Any older female artists?  (Zendaya and others will broaden this influence later in their induction commentary.)

“A tenacious performer who has triumphed over adversity and made comeback after comeback.”

The 2024 Inductee Program

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The preface of the program talks about the Hall of Fame has reached its 39th year. Oy. Even the nostalgia tripping is old. Jan Werener is not even listed under former board members. John Sykes, now head of board, talks about the diverse list of inductees, how rock-and-roll is not a single sound (See? He has to play Twister here because the founding scope was too tiny.)  He says of rock-and-roll, “It’s an attitude….a collusion of rhythm and blues gospel and country, but basically ‘life changing music.'” Life changing music could be anything.

The section on Cher was written by Annie Zaleski, who has a new Cher picture book coming out this year, I Got You Babe: A Celebration of Cher. Zaleski is a Cleveland-based writer and editor who has worked for NPR music, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, Salon, Billboard and Vulture, She did the 33 1/3 book on Duran Duran’s Rio album, a Taylor Swift book, Stories Behind the Songs and has done liner notes and illustrated bios of Lady Gaga, Harry Styles and Pink.

Cher section pics include Stars album back cover shot, the butterfly dress picture from her 1978 special promotion, the  the famous Phil Spector, Darlene Love and Cher photo, a candid with her kids and Tatum O’Neal, a Jerry Wexler session shot from Jackson Highway and pictures of Cher with David Geffen, Labelle, Stevie Wonder, David Bowie, Ray Charles, Elton John and Gregg Allman, a picture of Cher holding her Oscar and the hole fit from 1992.

There’s a breakout box called Selected Discography of her supposed important albums and here I take some umbrage. Stars is egregiously missing. Other albums that could have been included: Backstage as well as Man’s World. I understand why Believe is there. Because it has “Believe” on it. And I guess Heart of Stone is there because “Turn Back Time” is on that. And Jackson Highway definitely deserves to be there. (In Cher’s Memoirs, she even tells us Sonny thought that was her best album to that point which is an interesting compliment considering that was the first Cher album he didn’t produce.) But Black Rose? That should not be there. I appreciate that album in many ways, but it is not one of her important albums. It was a brave experiment that didn’t go anywhere. It was a mess in some ways. (Some reviewers lost their minds over it.) It’s far and away not better than Man’s World or Backstage.

But Zaleski does explain Cher’s cultural relevance very well. “Her singular voice has never lost its formidable power,” she says and she covers the musical points many other Cher historians miss, her time with Phil Spector and her inclusion on important records like “Be My Baby,” “You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling” and her work on the Spector Christmas album. She talks about Cher’s “big contra alto voice”  and quotes Cher as saying, “My voice just cut through.” Zaleski repeats, “Cher’s voice has never lost its dominance or power…with her warbling vibrato and graceful sense of dynamics, Cher sounds effortless singing nearly every style of music.” Mic drop.

She then lists the types (and I love the adjectives she uses doing it):

  • Orchestrated torch songs
  • Roaring power ballads
  • Luxe disco
  • Blazing hard rock
  • Playful Broadway showstoppers
  • Slinky soul
  • High-energy electro
  • Melodramatic pop

“She also possesses a unique and recognizable vocal timbre, one that’s dusky and sultry, like exquisite black velvet, with a sumptuous low range and a soaring high one.” (I once compared her voice to syrup but velvet is good too.)

Zaleski calls Cher a generous philanthropist, an outspoken activist, a prolific emoji user, a queer icon and ally and “unabashedly herself at all times….honest, funny, vulnerable and real.” Fans, it doesn’t get better than that. We picked good.

“Cher isn’t afraid to be earnest, her vocal delivery often feels like a direct line to her soul” and she “doesn’t suffer fools gladly, doesn’t mince words.”

The essay covers her stand-out influences, Cinderella’s “A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes,” early musicals, early rock and roll, American Bandstand, seeing Elvis live and Ray Charles on TV. Then she goes into describing Cher’s iconic songs with the same delicious adjectives:

Those qualifiers!! She skims over 1971-74  and the narrative ballads which is unfortunate because that music produced three number 1 hits, plus many other top 30 hits and was arguably one of the peaks, if not the peakiest, in Cher’s popularity.)

She covers Cher’s television grind, long days of writing, rehearsals, meetings, and show tapings. Her “acrimonious divorce,” her 2 Golden Globes (3, the Memoirs reminded us), her 1977 Oscar, the Geffen label era music of “glossy production, blockbuster hooks” that “suited her powerhouse voice.”

Then there was the 1990s health issues and Sonny’s death ending the decade. But also “Believe.” At the time Zaleski reminds us, Cher was the  oldest female to top the Billboard Hot 100.

She calls the ABBA covers album “buoyant” and says the electropop “DJ Play a Christmas Song” (which hit #1 in the Dance/Electronic Digital Sales category) is the song that put her over to the record breaking 7 decades of #1 hits. The only other artist to do it was the Rolling Stones (as you recall Cher’s quip on The Kelly Clarkson Show, “it took four of them to be one of me.”

Finally, the essay remarks on the full-circle duet with Darlene Love on Cher’s album Christmas, as a joyful and “brassy unison.”

In the back of the program were interesting paid-for congratulation pages to peruse, from record labels, publishers, lawyers and streaming services. Cher got a page from her managers, Roger Davis and Lindsay Scott. Warner Music Group’s page included Cher, Foreigner, Mary J. Blige, Kool and the Gang, MC5 and Dionne Warwick. ASCAP’s page had Cher, Mary J. Blige, Foreigner, Dave Matthews, Ozzy, Tribe, MC5, Peter Frampton, Kool and the Gang, Alexis Korner and John Mayall. The Hard Rock Casino thanks everybody, Spotify thanks everybody, there’s a mystery thank you in there too,

You can buy the program here.

Touring the Cher Exhibit at the Hall of Fame

The main image shown all throughout the lobby of the Hall of Fame (click to enlarge) was the very cool picture of Cher in the 1980s incarnation of her Hole Fit. I love that this is the representative photo because, it shows Cher performing, sweating, rocking.

The year’s inductees always get their own little exhibit upstairs.

 

Left outfit: The violet and purple “All I Really Want to Do” fit, an amalgamation of the Farewell Tour outfit (vest) and the Here We Go Again tour outfit, credited to the Cher Collection, made by Bob Mackie. The credits mention the outfit was also worn by Teal Wicks in the Broadway Cher Show.

Display on the monitor below: A Sonny & Cher live show ticket with Brian Farnon and His Orchestra for a show on March 3, 4, 5 at Harrah’s Lake Tahoe, the South Shore Room and the tagline, “The World’s Greatest Entertainers Appear at Harrah’s.” There’s a Cher quote from a recent interview about how success is like a string of pearls, moments you string together and you’ve got a necklace.

Middle outfit: The “Take Me Home” Fit (red) credited to the Cher collection from the Farewell Tour, made by Bob Mackie.

Display on the monitor below: The Bob Mackie sketch for the dress. There’s Cher quote about a conversation she had with Barbra Streisand and how Cher wants to work as long as she is able to do it.

Right outfit: The Halloween mermaid outfit from the movie Mermaids, 1990, designed by Patty Spinale & Gail Baldoni, now owned by Gary Scarborough.

Display on the monitor below: The Mermaids movie poster. The text mentions Cher six decades-long music career and she’s “also an actress” who “first starred in 1976 play Come Back to the Five and Dime Jimmy Dean Off-Broadway. This is a big error. She was in the 1982 big-Broadway Robert Altman production at the Martin Beck Theater. The play was first published in 1976. The text also mentions her movies Silkwood, The Witches of Eastwick and Moonstruck.

In the middle of the exhibit there was a large electric sign of rotating copy about all the inductees and this had a very good paragraph about Cher (mimicking the insights video):

“Cher has used her distinctive voice, stage presence, and avant-garde fashion to achieve unprecedented success. A musician who personifies female creative freedom in a male-dominated industry, Cher is the only woman to have a Number One hit in each of the past seven decades . Cher’s breakthrough came from her work with then-husband Sonny Bono. Sonny & Cher’s 1965 hit “I Got You Babe” was a definitive musical moment for early hippie counterculture. Amid the pair’s success, Cher launched her solo career, scoring hits like “Bang Bang.” In 1971, The Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour TV variety show helped establish Cher as a consummate entertainer and fashion icon. Cher continuously reinvented her style and mastered multiple musical genres. Equally adept at the folk pop of “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves,” the disco of “Take Me Home,” and [rock?] ballads like “I Found Someone.” Cher’s versatility is unmatched. Cher also became a star of the silver screen, winning the Academy Award for Best Actress in Moonstruck (1987). In 1998, Cher released the quintessential dance-pop classic “Believe,” pioneering the use of Auto-Tune as an artistic tool. A tenacious performer who has triumphed over adversity and made comeback after comeback, all while influencing trailblazing artists like Madonna, Beyonce, and Lady Gaga, Cher has earned her status as the Goddess of Pop.”

Below this description were in influences and legacies:

Influences: Bob Dylan, Darlene Love, Tina Turner

Legacies: Madonna, Beyonce, and Lady Gaga

Cher was placed at the left end, next to Jimmy Buffet in the U-shaped exabit and directly opposite Ozzy Osbourne. Those two are the bookends. This was not the order of the show in any way.

Studying the fan board again, Barry Manilow is still on there at #54. This makes me a bit crazy. I don’t even think Barry Manilow thinks he should be on this board. But he’s up there with 228 votes. You only need about 100 or to get up there on the fan board.

Elsewhere in the museum was an “In Memoriam” tribute to Dickey Betts of The Allman Brothers, (also married to Cher’s best friend Paulette, who was Paulette Betts for many years). The board said he was a 1995 guitarist inductee noted for his “Improvisational magic with the Allman Brothers…his double-barreled harmony and counterpoint” and that he shared lead guitar duties with Duane Allman until Duane died in 1971.  He died in April 2024.

I also scanned the gift shop for Cher books (none yet). There was only one t-shirt, recycled from Cher’s own tour merch. There was a the promo pic of Cher from her 1978 TV special. The vinyl album bin did have Believe, the new greatest hits package and Dancing Queen. As a reminder, my first visit in 2023 only had only one Cher item: the first FunkoPop doll.

Julie bought the Foreigner t-shirt and we both liked what they did with it, creating a special Hall of Fame shirt with their career timeline on the back.

Induction Show Performance and Speech

We weren’t so far away but big monitors in front of us showed closeups. Julie had a sudden migraine headache and missed the show’s high energy opening. Cher’s “Believe” started to big cheers. Dua Lipa came out  strutting in a black leather outfit, The song sounded much more bland coming out of Dua Lipa. But then Cher came out to help finish it. From the televised cut-aways you can see Keith Urban (who played in the Peter Frampton tribute) and Jelly Roll (who played in the Ozzy tribute) both seemed very excited to see Cher. Julia Roberts (who gave the Dave Matthews speech), too. And even Roger Daltry (Peter Frampton). Cher and DL hold hands at end in a very cool gesture of solidarity. Cher’s outfit is both crazy and restrained. Very black and over-lappy. At the end, Dua Lip yells, “Give it up for Cher.”

Dua Lipa and Cher singing “Believe”

We were surprised that Cher opened the show. Usually the push her toward the end for ratings. But after hearing all the other performances, this seemed best.

Zendaya arrived to give the induction speech. I wasn’t expecting much. The prior speeches for Cher have been fair to bad. And I would agree with Howard Stern that I would have preferred someone already established in the HoF to induct Cher. But that said, Zendaya’s was great! Perfect even. She did the job that needed to be done. And her outfit was the best Cher fashion tribute of the night.

[By the way, my sister-in-law Susan kept track of the celebrity situation down on the floor and Zendaya stayed for much of the show and danced to all the performances almost until the very end. In her estimation, Zendaya was by far the biggest star at the event by far.]

Zendaya said there’s not one person “in this room, in this country, in pretty much the whole world who doesn’t know” Cher’s name. “It’s impossible to measure the influence Cher has had and continues to have on every one of us….her impact spans generations. Cher is a “constant inspiration and reference point,” not only with the dance-floor innovation of “Believe” but 27 other solo albums and an Oscar, but lessons in “living in the  spotlight” and deftness in “keeping her sanity.” The audience gives some good cheers during the speech, during which the camera would pan to Cher waiting backstage.

Zendaya underscored this, “Come on, she does it all really, really fucking well.” And it wasn’t just “effortless charm and acting chops” and “stunning dresses” that got Cher into the Hall of Fame. “You need the musical goods and Cher has got the goods.” (Cheer.)

This is so great, that Zendaya made this case about Cher’s music credentials. She talked about Cher being the only solo artist with a #1 in each of the last seven decades, how she’s sold 140 million records worldwide, how Cher became an “instant sensation (with Sonny), shattering stereotypes about what a female artist is supposed to sound like,” creating something “new, innovative and distinctively her own,” how she  navigated ” a multitude of genres, defined new ones and reinvented others” and has “stood test of time.” Zendaya quipped that there are “drag performers all over the world currently in a makeup chair” (this earned a laugh from Roger Daltry) “putting on their best Cher face.”

Zendaya  spoke about Cher being a “brilliant and captivating performer, fearless in her presentation, an inspiration for every female artist who came after her” and is someone who “never acknowledged or accepted there things women were not supposed to do…she did exactly what she wanted,…This fierce woman is a hero, an artist and just about as authentically rock and roll as you can get” (thank you!), an advocate, an ally, and a person “paving the way for people to speak their truth” both “daring and open hearted.” She quotes Cher in saying, “you should never be inhibited by what people expect you do to.”

Zendaya’s speeh

The Induction Video

The video is about four and a half minutes and starts with Cher telling the Hall of Fame to fuck off.  There are 60s pics of Sonny & Cher and how there was never going to be a duo. Cher saying she can’t do this by myself and Sonny saying Cher is a very good singer and he that was “desperately trying to make people aware of that.” Cher is shown in her Rona-Barrett Owlwood bedroom talking about being newly single and being not as dumb or weak as she thought she was.

P!nk says unequivocally “Cher is a fucking rock star…genre-less and brave…one of the most unique artists our world has seen.”

The video then plays “Dark Lady” and the irony here is that song like this might have kept Cher out of the HoF for this long,

Cyndi Lauper then says, “She’s always been rock. Even on her television show. She had all the rockers on.”

They show a short-haired Cher in a TV interview for Black Rose talking about how she wanted to be more rock and roll and they conflate that with images from the Geffen label era and the amazing 1979 Take Me Home tour hole-fit shot. This is very confusing.

Shania Twain then talks about watching Cher “go through all of these evolutions in her life, her fashion sense and herstage presence…she is the most diverse artist ever.”

They show a clip of Tina Turner talking about how they had the same type of careers, starting with their husband managers. Tina says, “she was an icon then and she has remained an icon.” [Thank you, Tina. Because she was iconic by 1975 already.]

They show Cher’s iconic “Turn Back Time” video image of her straddling the canon. (Later when I watched the show’s telecast with Mr. Cher Scholar, he quipped that he’s still waiting for that V.A. claim about some sailor who got blue balls or threw out his lower back while sliding down the deck toward Cher during the shooting of this video.)

P!NK talks about Cher’s voice, “this incredible masculine/feminine mix. You can’t mimic that.”

The song “Strong Enough” plays and Cher talks about performing, feeling energy from thousands of people, “It makes you feel about sixteen feet tall.”

Cyndi Lauper says that “Cher’s success is in her gumption,” how she made “Believe” after they wrote her off. (But for that matter she made “Gypsies” after they wrote her off and “I Found Someone.” She’s the most written-off singer in the history.)

Cher talks about being dropped from two record companies.(But there were so many labels.) Mark Taylor explains the Cher effect works.

P!NK says “I don’t know many people who can say that they put out 27 studio albums and have a hit in every decade.

They show a Vogue cover, the Time cover, a shot of Mask and the Oscar moments.

Zendaya finishes by saying “It’s about time everyone” and introduces Cher as “the coolest woman on the planet.”

The induction video

“Turn Back Time” and Cher’s Speech

Cher then comes out to sing “Turn Back Time.”

Her performance of this song struggles a bit. It doesn’t feel smooth.  She did better at the Victoria’s Secret event earlier in the week and will do better in 2025 for other events. Does that outfit have chaps? But she is very bouncy. Dionne Warwick and her son smiled along. She still owns the stage but she can’t belt out the notes, Jelly Roll and Keith Urban are seen participating again. Thank you guitar solo. Cher might agree because she touches him on the shoulder and he give her a big grin.

In a sea of older artists struggling to stand up, walk or walking without much oomph, my family group commented on how well Cher was moving for her age, how youthful she seemed compared to some of the other aging rock stars.

The speeches would trade off from the right side of the stage to the left. Unfortunately I was on the opposite side of the arena and had to watch Cher’s speech on the monitors.

Cher hugged Zendaya. Cher admitted the speech would be a crap shoot (and it was). We again got a lot of ums and a kind of ditzy-voice Cher uses in these speeches that doesn’t appear similarly in her televised interviews (which are all more concise and assured). Maybe it’s the anxiety. She started off with a joke that getting into the Hall of Fame was harder then getting divorced from two men.

And this sets the tone for the speech. Cher decided she was going to accept the honor as a solo artist and as a woman. She was going to focus on women’s strength and perseverance. She dismisses the men she worked with from the beginning of the speech. And although I was hoping Sonny would get a minute in the sun, I didn’t dislike this approach. I think for the time, especially as it turned out just weeks before the Trumpapocalyptic election, it was the right move. Cher has been solo for over 40 years longer than her work with Sonny (which lasted about 13-14  years professionally, 1964-1977, give or take a few reunions). Cher surely deserves this award on her own. Sonny does get his due slightly in the video, and more so in her Memoir and on the book show in appearances like on The Howard Stern Show interview where Stern said multiple times that Sonny deserved his own spot in the HoF and Cher agreed.

Cher accidentally started to say the “Hollywood” instead of “Rock and Roll” Hall of Fame. She thanked her “guardian” David Geffen for “writing a letter” that she credits for getting in. She told some stories about her life: seeing Cinderella as a four year old, wanting to be famous, having a crazy yet amazing mother who told her she was not the prettiest, smartest, most talented kid, but she was special. She talked about not doing well in school, the ups and downs of showbusiness, being “lower than a snake’s belly” at times, as her mom used to say. Cher says she never gave up. She got from her mom her perseverance. (The television coverage cuts to Mary J. Blige clapping.)

Cher says after she left Sonny she had a car and her clothes and that it took Francis Ford Coppola’s encouragement for her to move to New York to pursue acting more seriously. She mentions getting a play and then getting to work with Meryl Streep. Cher talks about being lucky, being dropped by 4 labels, that her #1 hits in seven decades surprises even her. On the telecast you can hear her clearly say, “I’m a good singer. I’m not a great singer. I’ll take good.”

I misunderstood this at the event. I heard her say “I’m a good singer” and then a commotion. In the bootleg clip below you can see what I mean. Her full comments are completely obscured. I thought she was defending herself, not being self deprecating. But I think her assessment is right. Some of us love her singing but she is a combination of many things (fashion, singing, attitude).

She says, “Believe  changed the sound of music. It was an accident…Believe was kind of a bitch in the beginning.” She retells the story about the record company head complaining that “No one will know that it’s you. Yes, that’s the deal. That’s the great part.” She said it’s been a roller coaster life. But she implored us to “never give up. I’m talking to the women, okay….We keep striving. We keep going. And we keep building. And we are somebody.”

She thanked her family, Chaz, Elijah, her sister and brother-in-law, Slash and Alexander.

She walked off without her award and on the TV broadcast you can see Zendaya trailing after her with it. And then she was not seen again in the crowd or backstage photos. And there was no group song for this induction year, possibly due to some backstage squabbles. There were those Foreigner stories we started hearing the night before the show.

The show was broadcast live on the Disney channel which…I mean…let’s be honest…is not a good look for rebellion and resistance.

The Cher Speech (4:37)

There were images that came out later of Cher talking with Mary J. Blige, posing with Dua Lipa and Zendaya and a video of her interacting with super-fan Flavor Flav.

Kool and the Gang

That was not the last Cher reference in the show however. Chuck D. came out next to induct Kool and the Gang, He referenced “the Roots” and I didn’t understand who they were. Later I found out that Questlove and the Roots are the house band for Jimmy Fallon’s The Tonight Show and they were also the backing band for the HoF ceremony that night. Chuck D. continues, “I know a lotta rappers gotta thank, Cher, right? We gotta thank Cher“ and that gets cheers. He is referencing her auto-tune song “Believe.”

After Kool and the Gang played, my brother and I agreed this was a really fun part of the show. (He had one Kool and the Gang album as I recall.) I even liked “Celebration: which as a kid of the 1980s, I was fully prepared to never have to listen to again. They have plenty of great songs, “Too Hot” and I also like the end of the song “Ladies Night.” (And of course, Miss Ladd, which egregiously they did not play.)

Foreigner

Sammy Hagar did the induction for Foreigner. My oldest brother was the biggest Sammy Hagar fan, but they were both at the Checkerdome that night he recorded his MTV special there in 1983. My younger brother was the bigger Foreigner fan. So it was fun to see this induction with Randy. As I recall he once played me the song “Juke Box Hero” on our credenza-like phonograph and called it a masterpiece. Sammy Hagar later agreed as much.

Sammy Hagar started by taking a long time to tell what amounted to Cher joke.

He said musicians have been asking themselves what the criteria is for getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. “What do you have to have done? There should be some rules.” Yes, this sounds logical. He goes on to speculate: should you need to have one hit song? Foreigner has had “nine mega hits in the top 100.” Do you need a gold record? Foreigner has sold 80 million records and has six top 10 albums. Or maybe you have to have been around long enough, longevity, still filling arenas and amphitheaters (he almost says arenas, Cher is still filling arenas but not stadiums. Metallica is still filling stadiums according to a traffic jam I was in last summer in Boston). Hagar continues, even though the tour doesn’t have the original members, that’s how good the songs were. Hagar said this as if it were a compliment; but it seems some fans and members of the band do not see it this way; see the Foreigner article above.]

Then Hagar said that backstage he was thinking maybe the band wasn’t glamourous or pretty enough. (Well imho, Lou Gramm was plenty pretty), but then Hagar said that “if that  were the case, Cher would have been in the Hall of Fame about 10 times already, every time she reinvented herself. Welcome Cher. Congratulations.” (cut to members of Foreigner laughing.) “What was I thinking?” Then he goes on to explain why Foreigner deserved to be in the HoF.

I have to say I was probably more of a Lou Gramm fan. but I sure heard a lot of Foreigner in my house growing up and I know all the hits. I was especially a fan of his solo hit, “Midnight Blue,” and in high school would blast it from my car radio. I thought the interactions between Kelly Clarkson and Lou Gramm were very moving. Graham seemed very old and unsteady.

Demi Levato also did part of the Foreigner performance. Like Dua Lipa, I cannot get into Demi Levato either. There’s lots of leather bustiers and chains. Being a Cher fan I should be primed to like this. But it always feels like these women are trying too hard.

Then Roger Daltry arrives to induct Peter Frampton and this is how it should be. Underdog inductees should always  inducted by an unquestionably accepted members. Franpton shouldn’t have ever have been an underdog but his teen idol status insured that he would be. I looked over at my brother when Roger Daltry came out and our eyes got big (later that night we had to explain to my Dad who he was and yes my almost 90-year-old parents stayed up to watch the whole show because we were there at it).

Before we left for the show, someone in the house (not me and I won’t say who it was) asked why Peter Frampton was even being inducted. Well, Roger Daltry told us why and it was a great speech. The induction video went on to put his guitar playing on the level with Jeff Beck. And then Peter Frampton did an amazing performance with friend Keith Urban, which impressed even the naysayer above. After his performance, Frampton was helped to the stage (due to his own health problems) and he gave what was maybe my second favorite speech of the night, full of humility and wisdom and the insistence that “Kindness is King.”

Jimmy Buffett

All of my party got up to use the bathroom at this point and to go get snacks. Not me. I did not move. They missed the Big Mama Thorton’s video and the beginning of the Jimmy Buffett’s tribute. Julie was the big Jimmy Buffet fan who initiated me into the two shows I went to and loved. But his tribute was a big letdown. The songs chosen by Kenny Chesney, James Taylor, Mac McAnally and Dave Matthews were all ballads at the exclusion of those festive party songs that were a staple of his live shows. And I love me some Buffet ballads. But the overall feeling of the tribute was of sadness. And it is truly sad that Jimmy Buffet is no longer with us; but I have never left a Jimmy Buffet show feeling sad. I did like how James Taylor explained Jimmy Buffet as a hero in a Greek myth.

Susanne de Passe

Motown’s Susanne de Passe talked forever and forever, ignoring the prompter’s many pleas for her to wrap it up. (We had a good vantage point from which to see the prompter) but she had one good piece of advice, “You have to make “no” your vitamin.”

A Trip Called Quest

The third Cher mention of the night happened when Dave Chapelle (and Randy is a huge Chapelle fan, too)  was inducting A Tribe Called Quest. Fife Dawg’s father, Ward Taylor, introduced his family and ended by saying “Cher, I got you babe: and a wink. And then went on to say, “I am headed to San Jose but I don’t have a GPS. So Miss. Warwick, I need your help” and then he pointed both fingers at Dionne Warwick in the audience. She laughed. (She had returned to the audience after her induction which was nice but I haven’t much else to say about it.)

We all  surmised that Cher was possibly flying home by then but she told Cher she stayed for the whole show.

It was fun to watch Flavor Flav dancing to the great menagerie of old school rappers during the Tribe tribute and I was excited to see Queen Latifa, probably the only rapper I ever got into.

Mary J. Blige

Mary J. Blige’s speech was my favorite. She talked about how, in order to sustain a career, you have to have humility, that life is full of peaks and valleys. How you have to move with grace. Trust the process of your journey. Share your wisdom and love and respect with all who cross your path. She said you don’t need to wait to be perfect. “You are worthy.” Her knowing chuckle was very, very charming. She emphatically thanked her fans.

The Dave Matthews Band

None of us were Dave Matthews fans but the majority of the crowd in that arena were, which is why they were saved for last. They had been a fan fav in the HoF polls for two years. And although I do love the playful and orgasmic sexiness of the song “Crash Into Me” (“I’m the king of the castle, you’re the dirty rascal…please crash into me”), they only played a snippet of that. Julia Roberts inducted them like a giddy fan. I couldn’t get into it.

Due to Julie’s migraine and the five-hour length of the show, we had skipped dinner and were all pretty hungry by 1 am. We went to Happy Dog, a hot-dog bar in Cleveland and had some booze and fancy, creative hot dogs.

For many reasons, a weekend to remember.

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