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Dax Shepard and Other Bric-a-Brac

So I’m a little behind. I had a thing. Or two. It was not a pleasant turn-over from 2025 to 2026. Trying to catchup is my therapy right now.

Armchair Expert

I want to start with the Dax Shepard controversy. While I was in Cleveland one morning in January, my sister-in-law asked me if I had heard what Cher said about Dax Shepard. And I answered Who is Dax Shepard? And then I looked him up and I remembered his face right away. I did not know he was the husband of Kristen Bell.

Dax Shepard is an actor who also has a podcast called Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard (and Monica Padman is the co-host). Four weeks ago they interviewed Cher. On the podcast Cher, now infamously, called Kristen Bell “definitely the better half” and said then said, “the truth is, I trust her. So you must have something that I don’t see.”

Cue the hysteria.

It came at the end of a very good interview, I have to say, one that asked some novel questions and went deeper into Cher’s recent memoir than most of the interviews in 2024. And kudos to Dax Shepard (and Monica Padman) for circling back with follow-up questions like a real conversation. I mean he read the book. And had feelings about it!! One of their good questions was trying to nail down with Cher whether Sonny was so restrictive with her for love or for money. No one before had the large stones to ask her that before. And Cher was tactful in the interview except for the question about Kristen Bell, who is one of her friends from the tumultuous filming of the flawed movie Burlesque.

And I think this contrived-seeming scandal detracts from the quality of the interview itself.

I say contrived because Dax Shepard himself brought up the fact that Cher had mentioned prior to this interview that she didn’t believe Shepard was a  good enough mate for Kristin Bell. So Shepard knew the answer before he asked the question and was never at any point offended about it. In fact he said mock-seriously that he even agreed with Cher’s assessment adding that no one was good enough for her. He challenged Cher to list someone she did think was good enough for her. Kristen Bell herself interjects at this point to instruct Cher that Shepard is being self-deprecating.

Is it, of course, a pure example of Cher pulling no punches. It’s also ironic because Cher, more than anyone else I can think of, has been in this position of defending her heart over and over again. Remember Sonny (a relationship that was impossible to explain to people) and Gregg Allman (“nobody understood it”) and all the younger boyfriends. She predictably sees things in men her family, fans and co-workers do not see. And that’s as it should be. We can’t all like the same people. Love is irrelevant to translation and transference. (“Love don’t make things nice” and all that.)

That Cher would put anyone on the defensive about their heart is very interesting.

But it all made me look more closely at Dax Shepard; and he struck me as charming. I woke up early one morning thinking about this whole thing and Shepard’s way of downgrading his stock, (as Bell advised Cher he was doing). At one point, he joked about what a terrible father he was. Bell kept trying to explain him to Cher, his sense of humor.

And all that seems to indicate he might be exhibiting what they call  gray rocking. Not a likely thing for an entertainer to do (they usually try to make themselves bigger) but not unheard of either. Folks today are calling it “reverse catfishing.” Back in the day we just called it self-deprecation. It is, in a nutshell, to undermine or undersell your value…on purpose.

Sometimes people seem like they’re underselling but they’re not. This is to set up an expectation they can come back and defend. Like the bad lover who says, “I’m no good, baby!” Oprah then quotes Maya Angelou to say, “They tell you who they are.” You just didn’t believe it. It’s the bad ones who often do this. The good ones sometimes do not tell you who they are and for a reason.

And that reason could be gray rocking (or reverse catfishing or whatever). It’s often initially a defense mechanism to deflect against unwanted attention from various situations or people, like narcissists, for example, or manipulators or too much affection coming at you that you can’t return or just waiting to see who’s willing to look a little closer (in order to weed out the unserious or unobservant or to confuse the constantly self-promoting).

There’s an Easter Egg effect about it (like those secret doors in video games or DVD home screens that lead to a secret entrance to a fabulous room).

And it can become, like in Dax Shepard’s case, a comedic trick.

I mean I guess. I don’t know Dax Shepard. Seeing him in person with all his real room vibes is a lot different than watching a podcast on YouTube. But he strikes me as a strategic underseller.

It’s a thing. There’s a club. Don’t ask me how I know.

The Cher Zines

The Cher Zines (1, 2 and 3) are back up for sale for digital download only on Etsy.

Cher Weddings

Cher and Alexander Edwards suffered wedding rumors at the end of last year and even some local network news shows picked it up. These never cease, boyfriend to boyfriend.

The Grammys

Cher was awarded a lifetime achievement award at this year’s Grammys along with Carlos Santana, Chaka Khan, Fela Kuti, Paul Simon and Whitney Houston. These were presented at an earlier ceremony on Saturday, 31 January 2026. Cher did not attend but her friend Loree Rodkin did and posted most of the Cher reel on Facebook.

Cher did show up at the Grammys main broadcast on Sunday, 1 February 2026, to give her acceptance speech and present the award for Record of the Year.

I haven’t seen the full show so I’m not sure about the context of her appearance. Was she the only lifetime achievement winner allowed this televised acceptance moment? Was it conditional to her presenting? She wasn’t billed as a presenter ahead of time so that kind of limits the value of her presenting (if that was the condition).

Entertainment Tonight posted her acceptance speech as a short on Facebook.

Apparently there was confusion and Cher said she was going to walk off. As she was walking off the host called her back to present the Record of the Year award.


But then she has trouble reading it probably due to dyslexia and who knows, maybe having the wrong eye-wear in (or out).

She announced Luther Vandross (because his name was on the card) as the winning song. Samples of his 1982 song If This World Were Mine” were part of the true winning song “Luther” by Kendrick Lamar and SZA. Cher corrected the mistake but…cue the hysteria.

See Entertainment Tonight’s YouTube title for the segment:

According to A.I. “the mix-up highlighted the deep connection between the late R&B legend and the winning track.”

See? Even A.I. is cutting Cher some f**king slack!

And A.I. wasn’t the only one, as the Entertainment Weekly roundup shows. SZA defends Cher to Entertainment Tonight later when they asked her if she knew what was happening. She said, “a legend was speaking. That’s what I understood.”

I find it very heartwarming how supportive the black community is even after Cher flubs.

More SZA defending Cher from:

Helen Mirren

Helen Mirren recently won the Cecil B. Demille award at the Golden Globes and in her acceptance speech she provided a list of “women that inspire me” which included Monica Vitii, Ana Manani, Jane Fonda, Bette Davis, Judy Garland and a list of women who can be recognized by just one name: Madonna, Barbra (Streisand I think), Cher, Sarah Jessica (Parker), Meryl (Streep), Kate  (Hepburn I presume), Cate (Blanchett probably) and her “ultimate Goddess” Viola (Davis).

That was nice.

Defining Cher

As I was reading Annie Zaleski’s 2025 Cher book I tracked down some of her sources for quotes I didn’t recognize. That led me to this Elle article from back in 2018, an interview with Cher about her new Broadway musical.

It had some good quotes and conceptualizations by Abbie Aquirre on Cher.

“Have you ever stopped to think about Cher? You are aware of her, of course, the way you are aware of the sun, with its blinding light, its rising and setting. But have you ever considered the totality of Cher—not just the celestial body herself, and not just the epic arc she has traveled, but the sheer range of stellar explosions she has undergone?”

She goes through all the Cher variants: the ones from Sonny & Cher Cher (pop star Cher and then TV star—the Cher, pulling in “30 million viewers” a week), along side the 1960s and 70s solo career Cher.

“Many more Chers followed,” she said, including Disco Cher, Roller-Skating Cher, Punk Cher and Rock ‘n’ Roll Cher. Then Best-Actress Cher working with the likes of Meryl Streep, Jack Nicholson and Nicolas Cage [not to mention the directors]. Then there was Battleship-Thong Cher, fashion icon Cher and much later Autotune Cher.

And this is what I mean when I describe Cher’s performance width as being vaudevillian versus a career of particular depth in one area. (Both are good, it’s just that vaudevillian types are more rare these days since the death of the variety show.)

When Aguirre talks about her feelings interviewing Cher she has an almost existential crisis, “Wait, Cher is also an actual human.” She describes Cher’s strong presence that is also “quiet, still calm, even delicate…open and listening, and thus exposed. If in her work she is an output, in person she is on input. Powerful but not overpowering.”

She says, “Nicolas Cage gets at this quality when I ask him to describe her acting talent. ‘Cher is a person with a huge heart, and that really comes through not only in her music but as a screen performer. She has an extraordinary blend of strength and vulnerability on-camera,’ he says.”

She quotes young Broadway Cher actress, Micaela Diamond, to say about Cher, “To be so vulnerable and yet have the most power in the room, that’s a really hard place to stand in.”

Aguirre decides Cher is “both otherworldly and relatable.”

She quotes Meryl Streep admiring Cher’s “deep, velvet, mature [singing] voice” and to say that Cher’s crooked teeth “made her even more perfect.”

Meryl Streep is one of the few great actresses to defend Cher’s television work: “She made everybody else on TV look like they were trying too hard, pushing. She was so immediate, free, and she was canny about landing the jokes. Skilled, but it was invisible.”

Aguirre covers the trials of Sonny and confirms what Cher says: “Cher walked away with nothing.” And explains how it was worse than nothing.

I wonder if that’s why Cher wore shredded pants at the Grammys Sunday night, to symbolize her eras of poverty. (I kid.) But honestly, I bet the cost of her outfit could pay for my roof that is being replaced right now over my head as we speak.

Yes, literally (and figuratively) my roof is falling down, but at least Cher is still giving me some bits of diversion.

Alive From New York…It’s Saturday Night

For those of you who know me personally, you’ve already heard the news that my mother passed away at the beginning of the year after a long, depressing battle with COPD.

I had been waiting for the new year to write about Cher’s heavily-anticipated 20 December appearance on Saturday Night Live and now somehow those two things have converged.

The episode was a ratings boost for the SNL, whether you believe this was due to Ariana Grande hosting, musical guest Cher or the emotional departure of Bowen Yang, or a combination of all three. Arianna Grande did a great job. She was funny and mastered many different characters. I don’t watch the show very often, but overall it seemed like a good Christmas episode.

Cher only appeared in one extra skit, the Delta Lounge skit, and then Kenan Thomson did a spoof of “Believe” as a corrupt black Santa Claus.

I watched the show live at my brother’s house in Cleveland. My brother, sister-in-law and niece Eliza were there and one of her local friends came over to watch. It was very interesting to see the show with young women. My sister-in-law asked Eliza’s friend if she even knew who Cher was. My family is convinced Cher is a flash-in-the-pan and no statistics or living legend inductions will convince them otherwise.  Alternatively, they could be just trolling me. My family has done that in the past.

But my niece Eliza’s friend did in fact know who Cher was and was decidedly on team Cher because she thought Arianna Grande was too thin and a bad influence for young women because of it. We talked about this at length after the show and looked up pictures of Arianna Grande from years ago. My niece is a huge Arianna Grande fan going back to her early televisions shows so I could relate to what she must have been feeling, having to defend her fandom. This was what Cher fans were doing back in the mid-1970s.

A lot of discussion circled around Cher’s lip-syncing. I am usually pretty good at noting when a Cher song is too close to the album version (“DJ Play a Christmas Song” was an example of this) or when the song may have been re-recorded for the show but Cher makes mistakes in the sing-a-long (“Run Rudolph Run” matched this rubric). But my brother, an occasional live singer himself, found a new tell. He noted one time in the performance when Cher pulled the microphone away from her mouth and the vocal didn’t change to reflect this.

There was plenty of controversy about the lip-sync performances online, too. And what more can I say anyway about Cher and lip-synching or plastic surgery or autotune. Did she or didn’t she? The questions are full of schadenfreude.

I do not need to hear the opinions of other fans and non-fans about Cher controversies. For a lifetime, my own family has needled me with them. They have a particular way of asking about something with an agenda lurking in the shadows of their questions. Like over the years when the Kansas City Chiefs football team loses spectacularly. “How does John feel about the Chiefs losing?” As sports fans themselves, they don’t even need to ask the question. They just like to hear the grieving.

My ambivalence is fully on record (about football, lip-syncing, plastic surgery and autotune). I tend to like live singing, especially on a show that makes so much of its liveness. Even if the singing is not so great. But I won’t exactly rent my garments about all the American Bandstand or Solid Gold episodes of Cher lip-syncing.  Cher has sung live on hundreds of television shows in her lifetime and if she lip-syncs on every show from now until the end of her life, it won’t change the ratio all that much. But then again, the people who remember the days of Cher singing live on television are a dying cohort. And with A.I., the past is quickly becoming a fiction.

So…blah, blah, blah.

During my December visit to Cleveland, (a rush visit because my mother was suddenly declining), I learned a bit of the kids’ new slang: parasocial. For the young whipper-snappers this means a one-sided relationship with famous people who are not in any way socially related to you. I am very comforted by this new jargon because it reminds me of when my friend Christopher visited me when I lived near an Amish community in Pennsylvania. We were driving by some Amish playing volleyball and he said something like, “Imagine living your whole life not knowing who Janet Jackson is!” And I replied, “but instead, they know who their neighbors are.”

I get it, but then I’m Cher Scholar. So obviously I’m a conflicted pop-culture consumer.

So when I watched SNL again with my parents that Sunday afternoon, which was also the last moment of television I watched with my mother ever, I wasn’t surprised that she wanted to cover and recover the issue of Cher’s lip-syncing. My mother never did approve of my Cher obsession. And it’s not because she didn’t watch all of the The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour episodes because my parents faithfully did. She just wanted me to grow out of it. Whether this was because she resented my alternate-universe fantasy of glam-parents or because she was simply annoyed by the frivolity of a celebrity obsession, I do not know.

But when she got wind that Cher might not have sung “live” on Saturday Night Live, she kept asking me about it all afternoon.

Now this was also because she was failing. Mostly alert up to the end, the lack of oxygen and build-up of CO2 in her blood was causing her to forget some things and get confused. She might have just been trying to remember if I had said Cher did or didn’t sing live.

Or maybe she was needling me about it. Like if it was the last thing she did… she would remind me of Cher lip-syncing on Saturday Night Live.

My mother and I had our problems over the 57 years. We were very different people. And those differences often chafed. Even if we had been more similar, the mother-daughter relationship is a strange brew even in the best of relationships. But we had both come a long way over the last few years. My December visit with her was very emotional. We knew the end was coming. And for the last year or so,  whenever I said goodbye to her I would say, “I love you” and she would say, “I love you too…more than you know.”

And I would always be reminded that this was one of my favorite Cher songs. Similarly, after she died I came across an article about Moonstruck quoting Loretta’s recounting of her emotions after watching the opera La Bohème:

“That was so awful. Beautiful. Sad. She died.”

And the end was indeed awful, in all the ways.

My parents didn’t laugh at any of SNL skits or seem to register seeing the show (or Cher) at all. (And they watched SNL every week.) But then again they don’t seem to watch television anymore the way the rest of us do. They can never seem to consistently remember what they have just seen even a few minutes later. It’s like they’re in their own world of dreams while the television is on.

Two Saturdays later, my mother would be gone.

These last five years have been harrowing for the family, not least of all for my mother. We’ve been up and down on a neverending roller coaster since she contracted COVID back in November of 2019. She miraculously survived that and then things were looking up. Then things were not looking good again and it was a reeling see-saw month to month. We couldn’t seem to keep a direction in sight for longer than a few weeks, good or bad. It was an endless and laborious and heartbreaking switching back and forth. It wore us all down. It wore her down terribly. She was getting better. She was getting worse. There was hope. There was no hope. She was giving up. She was fighting on. Deciding how to be in that world was hard enough but somehow manageable. It was the constant switchbacks. Years of switchbacks.

 

No, I do not obsess over lip-syncing or plastic surgery or autotune. But what I have always obsessed about is the truth. Let us all acknowledge that which is true. Just be honest about it. Like Zack Bagans’ Haunted Museum in Las Vegas, Nevada. Just cop to your amazing, next-level haunted house and drop the whole museum thing. Just own whatever it is you are doing.

I get fatigued. Especially lately around so many who can’t seem to do that. I’ve also been run down by those who can’t seem to keep track of the things I’ve said. Because after this whole thing, I have no energy left to keep repeating myself. So when for the third time during watching Saturday Night Live when my mother asked me “Did Cher sing?” I responded with a combination of frustration, futility and (in hindsight) maybe even some unintentional kindness.

In the face of her suffocating death and confusion and fear and all the insurmountable loneliness to come and the sad state of world affairs today with all the lies and obfuscations (from even those who happen to love us so), what does it even matter what truth is anymore?

So when my mother asked me for the third time “Did Cher sing? I just said, “Yeah mom, she sang.”

End of 2025 Catchup

I checked Cher’s merch page and unfortunately there is not yet a Cher snow globe available. But wouldn’t that be swell?

Music

Since I’ve been working on my own Cher rabbit holes (with books and dolls), I’ve been delayed in posting the latest Cher news. And there has been quite a lot of it, the biggest of which maybe happened yesterday.

I had no idea when I woke up Sunday morning that I’d be greeted with news of new music that very day. Cher completely surprised us with a  new  Christmas single!

Some fans, me included, worried that after months of really aggressively fake Cher news on Facebook, that this too was fake news. In fact, I spent the better part of Sunday morning lying in bed trying to find confirmation on this story. I didn’t even think to go to straight to Cher’s YouTubes. Eventually I just had to rely on the reliable sources of Cher Universe and Cher Brazil. They get the scoops, those young whippersnappers.

I spoke with another Cher scholar and we wondered is this was actually a 2025 recording? There has been no context around this release (interviews, advanced press) and so it’s hard to know. Or is this an outtake of the 2023 Christmas album? Will it be resold and repackaged into the old album to tease fans into buying it once again? The song is heavy on auto-tune, which feels like Cher’s continued middle-finger into the face of auto-tunes detractors, but its also not new.

On the other hand, the lyrics speak to the from-ennui-to-anguish her fans may be dealing with in 2025 in a sort of general way that covers all of our possible scenarios.

I always appreciate the Cher-as-Mother-Figure songs. Her Cheer-Up-Kid gestures always get me. This could be because Sonny & Cher were my fantasy parents. But songs like “Chiquitita” and “Stop Crying Your Heart Out” I find very comforting. This is another song in that category. It’s been quite another rough year from this end (ending with a roof leak among other dramas), rougher probably because it’s also been rough for all my friends too.

Sometimes I feel like I’m losing my resistance and elasticity. (Don’t tell my non-Cher mother. She’s got enough to worry about.) But songs like this are very appreciated from Cher’s own brand of public surrogate motherhood.

This is also a good time to visit the Cher Scholar Christmas Page.

The new song also explains why Cher will be on Saturday Night Live on Saturday December 20, their year-end Christmas show. She’s a musical guest alongside Arianna Grande, but hopefully she’ll also appear in some of the skits. Would a duet be too much?

Let’s touch base next year on how all that turns out.

A Grammy Salute to Cyndi Lauper aired on CBS on 5 October. It was a great special all around with some fabulous and unexpected duets. Cher came out for the finale of “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” in a visual tribute to Yayoi Kusama which I love, love, loved!

Last week, Cher also received another victory against Mary Bono but this time at the federal level. Bono plans to appeal all the way to the top! (Just wow. Will the Supreme Court eventually take on this case someday? Let’s hope not.)

Cher Books

CBS Mornings (which has confusingly rebranded since I last looked from the previous title of CBS This Morning) had Cher on the show in November to talk about the paperback version of her Memoir just out. There is an appended story at the end of the paperback version, (to get us to all buy that again) about Sonny and Cher at Martoni’s Restaurant, a very funny one but not the “Laugh In” story that was left out of the hardback version, which is significant I think. Did that even happen at all?

Cher’s Memoir part two was postponed earlier this year until spring of  2026 and now reports are saying it’s furtherly postponed until fall of 2026, which will be two years after part one came out. (That’s the way it is and you’ll like it!)

Anyway, 2025 was sort of an embarrassment of riches on the Cher book front. In another post (this week) I’ll talk about Annie Zaleski’s picture bio and Natalie Hammond’s style guide.

But this week, the children’s book on Cher (from the Little Golden Book people) came out, written by Candice Ransom and  illustrated by Laura Catrinella. It’s so brief, it didn’t have the chance to print any egregious errors. Which is nice.

Some of the best drawings include:

And then there’s this picture. I’m sure many Cher fans will fight me on this one but that is definitely me in the lower left-hand corner of this picture. That’s even my facial expression at Cher concerts!

Outings 

Cher attended the Swarovski Masters of Lighting Opening Celebration in Los Angeles with Alexander Edwards on 28 October. “On the day, Cher donned a black see-through bodysuit paired with a fur crop jacket and wide pants adorned with chain decorations on the sides, exuding her unique charisma. Her signature black wavy hair and glamorous jewelry highlighted her presence as the ‘ageless diva.'” (chosun.com)

Cher was also presented with a Bambi Legende Award in Germany on 13 November.

Cher was introduced around her iconic status and humanity. In her speech Cher said she was proud to be there and felt she had a special relationship with Germany, where people seemed to always been interested in her during her career’s low ebbs. She talked about her inability to save Billy the Elephant from the L.A. Zoo. She kept saying, “I’m just a singer; I can’t do anything.” But then after telling the successful Kavaan elephant story she ended with, “I’m not just a pretty face, am I?”

Movies

Someone reached out to me from Peru about the movie Suspect.

A man named Anthony told me he had recently watched the movie on VHS and “found it very entertaining,  full of suspense and interesting moments. For example, the scene in the library” and yes that scene was very delectable!

Anthony said he searched the internet for reviews and found my Cher Zine review “full of details and very interesting observations.”

He said he was “grateful to be able to read it and that there are unique opinions” and he hoped I could read the email “and feel grateful for filling the world with culture.”

I was indeed very grateful he reached out to me. Suspect is a bit underrated as it includes a very bookish character against Cher-type and I think she does a fine job in it alongside a young Liam Neeson.

More About Me

So my friend in San Francisco and I finished reading Healing The Child Within by Charles L. Whitfield (which Cher recommends in her book Forever Fit) and we started on the comparatively very large workbook.

Oy vey! It has been a shocking experience because when I started reading the book, it felt so dated, so 80s. My friend and I have read so many other self-help books between when this one was published and now. And it seemed very substance-abuse related, which was not my family history, (in my childhood anyway). But then it turns out the childhoods explored encapsulated many more kinds of dysfunction under “also ran” where I could find my little self. The book is full of tables and charts and I could see exactly where my therapy in Los Angeles stalled when I left to move to New Mexico. I never got to core issues! Or letting the feelings go!!

So I’ll be restarting therapy next year when my insurance is sorted out. My friend and I are now deep into documenting our true and public selves. Many surprising revelations for us, I must say.

I’ll be making an unexpected visit to Cleveland next weekend so I wasn’t going to finish putting up my Christmas trees. But then I did it anyway just to cheer myself up.

 

 

Memoir vs. Memoir Part 3: the 1970s

I just need to say this again: if you had told me when I was six or seven or eight years old that one day I’d be reading Sonny’s memoir alongside Cher’s memoir, each discussing their days as Sonny & Cher, I would have fainted across my Raggedy Ann bedspread. It was inconceivable to me that such an amazing thing would happen someday in this world. That’s how much I loved Sonny & Cher.

I now think either Cher eventually read Sonny’s book or one of her ghostwriters did because their opinions, even minor ones, seem so point-to-point.  And why would they not read everything, just for research. I guess it could be an amazing coincidence, like Sonny’s image of Sonny and Cher connected to the same umbilical cord.

Anyway I’ll try not to replicate Cher’s book here because you should go out and buy it. The paperback is out now with an additional story. But let’s continue…

If you want to go back:

The Nightclubs

So Sonny admits it was Joe DeCarlo’s idea to try out nightclubs. This is big. Cher and the world usually give that idea to Sonny. Sonny calls the period a “bumpy road personally.” Cher says they actually got back on track as a family during this period. And Cher calls it Supper Theater. The Supper Club circuit. Places like the Flamingo in Las Vegas and the circuit of hotel and casino dinner theaters.

Cher remembers she was “relieved to be working” and they traveled with Chas in a wicker crib and their nanny Heidi, “the sweetest woman in the world.” Chastity’s first two years were on the road and her first milestones all in motels and hotels. Cher says Chas was our early entertainment and “such a gift.” The band and hotel staff held her all the time and her “feet never touched the ground. Cher says, “she was the sole focus of our long road back to who we once were. “ Even though they had no money or house and had hotplate meals, the three of them hung out together and “no matter the circumstances, Sonny could always make me laugh.” Cher is unequivocable: “struggling again helped revitalize our relationship…being poor narrowed our focus—how to best spend our time, made us feel three of us against the world.” (This is the “backs against the wall” era.) Cher says Sonny was a big kid, very creative, and she could happily watch him play with Chas for hours.

“Our world consisted of the three of us.” This sounds very happy but Sonny portrays it all unhappy and remembered only the struggle.

He says, they “struggled to find chemistry off stage” and he says he took some of the act’s barbs personally. He does start to worry he is being too bossy and that he lives too much in fantasy land. He admits he was “obsessed” with Cher’s “steamy love scene” with Steve Whitaker in the Chastity movie. He worried that his jealousy meant they didn’t “get it on film.”

Later in the book Sonny will claim that Cher’s unhappiness came out of left field. But here he acknowledges their fights over the busy schedule he arranged and he admits they “worked their asses off” in the summer of 1970 and that may have “cost us our relationship.” He mentions making the Dick Van Dyke TV special (he doesn’t mention its name, The First Nine Months Are the Hardest) and how it was hard to be on the road again and playing two shows a night. “We were up and down on planes…packing and unpacking…walking through smelly kitchens late at night…not connecting well.” He says Cher saw it as “a treadmill going nowhere.” He also says, “our enthusiasm for life was too low to pick up” and “you feel miserable.”

Cher does say ”every night was like a war” but she’s talking about with the audience.

Only Cher mentions the Love American Style appearance in January of 1971. Cher talks about how kind Sonny was during her panic attacks and his “odd” experiments like having her sing Puccini’s “Un bel dì, vedremo” from Madame Butterfly.

Cher explains how the new act developed from drunks in crowds and how she started talking to the band and making them laugh. She didn’t get the side eye from Sonny because it was working and at least they were entertaining each other. Cher calls it “always hit or miss” and that very “slowly we developed a [20 minute] act people would line up to see.” She notes it was “not our singing. “They wanted to hear our jokes.” Cher talks about her heritage of wiseassery. But that “never in a gazillion years did I imagine that I’d become a standup comedian.” Cher explains the type of jokes they told: about Sonny’s mother, his height, his singing, his hopes of becoming a sex symbol, her nose, her body type. Cher says it was accidental and “We got excited again.” They both tell some of the jokes they did.  Cher says, “Timing was everything” and she could “make Sonny laugh so much he couldn’t sputter out his lines.”

Sonny’s version: “We gradually developed a humorous and fairly sophisticated repartee.”

Cher again says their stage personas were the opposite of their off-stage relationship. Cher tells a story of trying to confide unhappiness in Sonny and his explosion and threat to divorce her.

Cher does talk about the discomfort of it, how that “felt horrible.” They would be in motels across the street from venues and casinos. Train whistles would keep them up at night. Bad plumbing. Mildew on the walls. Paper thin walls. Sonny would make them hot-plate pasta for the family and the band because they couldn’t afford restaurants. Cher admits sometimes “I wanted to curl up and die.”  Cher says they’d take the service elevator and then navigate their way through the busy kitchen trying not to slip on any grease or wok into a waiter flying past carrying five plates and standing by the swinging doors and trying to keep out of the way, listening for their cue. Then walk out smiling.

She says her sister was  traveling with them, too.

Sonny admits that although they were feuding, they were also other’s best friends. He says there are talks of a TV show but nothing came of it. Cher talks about the Century Plaza comedian night and working on The Nitty Gritty Hour special, which she says felt formulaic and nothing came of it.

Sonny’s August 26 1970 diary entry admitted Cher was complaining that he was pushing too hard. He says that during weeks in New Orleans they barely spoke unless they were fighting. (Later he will say he had no idea she felt this way.)

Cher says, “I felt permanently tired.”

Sonny says they would dress up to play to 12 people, where they used to play for tens of thousands. He says they were “not concerned with putting on a good show” but “how can I get out of this situation?”

Cher says it’s a “thousand times harder to come back than become, almost impossible.” And she concurs that they were used to 30 thousand screaming fans and were lucky now if they had more than 100. One of the midnight shows at the Elmwood there was only 4 people. Some “real dives.” They were used to kids who “knew every word of our songs” and now played “to people who didn’t know us,” people who were coming for dinner and drinks, not to see a show.

At this time Sonny said he felt Cher’s “admiration for him was zip” and that he was worried about the survival of Sonny & Cher but she was only worried about her own survival.  It’s in the middle of this, (not at the massive tax debt episode where Cher puts it) that Sonny says he asked Cher for 3 years (not 2) to get them back on top.

They both agreed they communicated better in Sonny’s diary.

He shares his September 11 diary entry (paperback, 1812) which has similar verbiage to the one Cher mentions in her memoir (hardback, 207) , the one that talks about Cher being “my stability, my generator. I need you to believe in me Cher” and Cher responds: “I am you. That’s scary to me. Even if you left me, you couldn’t rid your body of me. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud.” Maybe these are two different entries they’re talking about. They don’t read the same in each book. This also wasn’t one of the ones Mary Bono republished in People Magazine.

But in hindsight Cher felt she did believe in Sonny because “Sonny believed in us…he kept pushing,” getting them TV appearances and shows.

Sonny says they were “popping” and “generating heat” and selling out shows and “drawing” in Las Vegas, where they shared a bill with David Brenner and Frankie Avalon. They didn’t even have a hit record, Sonny marvels. He says the true benchmark of their worth was “how hotels received us.”

Both end chapters before they start to talk about their new TV show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour.

The First TV Show & Records

Sonny says TV executive Fred Silverman, a “genius programmer at CBS Television” saw them at the Waldorf Astoria.

Cher says it was around 2 years to the day that Fred Silverman saw their performance at The Royal Box Supper Club in the Americana hotel. Cher says by this time their act was “razor sharp.” Then they were sub-hosts on the Merv Griffin Show.

Sonny says, “Silverman arranged for us to serve as guests on the Merv Griffin show and they went over big. Silverman sent a congratulatory letter.”

Cher says Silverman wanted younger viewers. He sent producers Bearde and Bly to the Fairmont Hotel where they saw some raw talent and all hit it off. On their way back to LA on the plane, they sketched out the show. I remember Bearde and Bly saying the same thing on some Cher documentary, maybe Behind the Music.

In the meantime, Sonny says, a friend from his record promo days, Johnny Musso, signed Cher to Kapp Records and Sonny says, “he was taking a risk.” Musso “didn’t want me to produce.” This is the second time Sonny is asked not to be producer. “He wanted to use Snuff Garrett. I was bored by the studio and Snuff was a friend back to Liberty Records.”

Because of the TV schedule, Cher says, they had one week to finish this first record. Cher “loved Snuffy” because he was funny and great at his job, a “get it done” kind of guy. Sonny was busy with other things, Cher says, like arranging the tours.

Silverman arranged for a replacement series of 7 shows, Sonny says, and their ratings were good.

Cher calls it a summer of 6 shows and their show led into the miniseries about six wives of Henry VIII, every night a different wife. Fact check: there were 6.

Then in September the single “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” was released and 7 weeks later it hit #1. Sonny counts every chart position and he gets them right. Cher tends to get them wrong. Cher talks about the cover, the accent on her name, how it was her first top ten solo (“Bang Bang” went to #2 and “You’d Better Sit Down Kids” to #9). The album went gold and the song was nominated for a Grammy. She was working so hard she doesn’t remember how it felt. She only remembers being on the road, country fairgrounds and “huge crowds for us” but also being exhausted.

Sonny is frustrated with this. “Cher was sleeping” he says disparagingly at ever milestone of good fortune. He feels he is the only one enjoying it. Then he fires Joe DeCarlo because he’s taking 20% (the combined 10% each that 1960s managers Stone and Greene were getting). Besides, he has his road manager Denis Prognolato who he says was doing all the work anyway.

Remember Denis was the spy in tennis-lesson-gate, friend to Sonny. Not so much to Cher.

Cher says around this time Sonny changed. He hires lawyer Irwin Spiegel and is always in meetings with him smoking cigars.

The album Sonny & Cher Live comes out and goes to #35.

The “All I Ever Need Is You” single goes to #7 and the album to #14. The single “When You Say Love” goes to #32. This is all Sonny recounting.

But we could have used more of Sonny’s view about his own songs here, just like with “I Got You Babe” and “The Beat Goes On.”  He had three songs on All I Ever Need Is You. He says nothing about “A Cowboys’ Work is Never Done” except that it was a top 10 song in April of 1972 (#8).

Things are going good, Sonny says. The Comedy Hour got a greenlight. Their Vegas shows are sold out with “traffic backed up nightly.” But he feels deflated when Cher says she “wished they were really big, like the Rolling Stones or Dylan.” They are selling seats for $500. He says he feels invalidated and Cher is always the victim. (Which is neck-breaking projection in one paragraph). He thinks Cher is tired of S&C and hates sharing the spotlight. Cast and crew of the variety show, including Bob Mackie, the producers, the first hairdresser, just don’t back this up. There is the famous story about how Sonny would say “jump” and Cher would say “how high,” plus the fact that he said himself Cher had anxiety and hated performing without him, and in the 1970s would prefer to perform through him.

Sonny sees they are drifting apart. He wants you to know he sees and yet he also reserves the right to be completely taken by surprise later.  He feels they are still connected, intwined, “still drew life from the same umbilical chord and to think of severing ties seemed suicidal.” (Which shows he was thinking about it.)

Cher agrees and says they had a strange relationship as husband and wife, best friends, parents, partners and strangers.

Sonny says they went “from hasbeens to hot stuff “ and that he reinvested most of “our salary” into show, which had a 35k weekly budget. Which he said was “peanuts in prime time.” How’d they afford The Big House then? Because they were broke at the start of this decade. Sonny talks about their nose jobs and Cher’s breast reshaping and the infected scars that resulted.

The both agree they loved their televisions show. Sonny says, “the show was a blast to do. Even on our bad days we had fun.” He says Cher had her dream gowns of Bob Mackie.

In Cher’s version she had to fight for Bob Mackie. Ret Turner was already assigned to the show. She got Mackie to intervene and persevere. Cher became friends with both men. Cher says the small budget gave the show a family dynamic in the beginning.

Her first favorite dress was the red one with the open stomach, but that she loved the beautiful beaded shimmery gowns, which later came to cost 5k per dress. Cher says she was a size 6 at 108 pounds and her body type had come into vogue. (We could argue she helped it get there with her TV show.) Cher talks about John Wilson, the set, their coordinated outfits, how they both walked on stage with interlocking fingers, and her feeling “this is what I’m supposed to do.”

Cher has much more room to talk about the details of the show, what they did on which days, who the guest stars were, the role of Chastity, the innuendos and the lack of censorship, about the audience feedback. She said she could look back at the script Sonny wrote (“virtually by himself”) for Good Times and suddenly see it was “way ahead of its time.”  She talks about the first taping, the issues with her skin and hair.

Cher said Silverman was like a father figure. She talked about the difference between their written lines and their improvisations, how Sonny didn’t memorize anything and relied on cue cards, whereas she would memorize the scripts “on first sight.” She said she “let him flounder,” go along and then get him with a one-liner. She said the show was set up for Sonny to be the straight man. And they encouraged him to be silly. “He knew I had his back,” Cher says. She felt they were more equals on the show. “Sonny learned his own style of comedy and was hilarious. People loved him.” Cher says when they went to work, they got along. “I don’t remember a single show when we were angry with each other.”

Sonny says they had “top-notch writers” but he doesn’t mention any names of the cast or crew. He says Cher still had stage freight and worked to the cameras and through characters. But it gelled, was “hip and kooky.” Sonny talks about his “Fair Cher” poems and Cher’s impeccable timing” but he says now Cher is “impossible to read.”

Cher says they had a great crew and the producers did a great job. She says the reviews improved and they were renewed for 13 more shows. Critics said they were “endearingly mismatched” and they liked the screw ups and ad libs and the married-people affection like Sonny brushing hair from Cher’s face. Cher talks about director Art Fisher’s pioneering chroma key/blue screen, her iconic Vamp and Laundromat skits. She mentions Ted Zeigler, Freeman King, Peter Cullen, Murray Langston and Steve Martin “who went out tour with us after shows.” She talks about singing the old songs. She says she needed Sonny for those solos and couldn’t have done them without him. (This doesn’t sound like a woman who had been trying to distance herself from him.)

Cher says they were a Monday night institution and a top 10 hit with millions of viewers at a time. Market research found  Sonny loveable and Cher beautiful with her array of clothes. Cher then talks about recovering on weekends with Chas. After a show wrap, she would “go home, go look at the baby, wash face, brush teeth, watch TV, go to sleep.”

She remembers their days at their house at Oxnard Beach which were “some of our happiest days.”

Sonny agrees that at that time they felt like “a cozy family unit.”

Cher talks about being TV famous and how work was a safe zone, that they never fought on the set. [Charo tells a story of overhearing fights on the set and there were those Battling Bonos rumors.]

The Big House

Architectural Digest reported in 2019 the house was on sale for $115 million. More history (considering the short time they lived there, all tenants considered, it’s interesting that the house is still referred to as the Sonny & Cher house/estate) and updates through the years.

They were living in the 34-room mansion known as the St. Cloud house and it was 8 weeks into season 1 of their show and Tony Curtis, ever the opportunist Sonny says, sold them another house known as The Big House, now known as Owlwood or sometimes Carolwood Estate. Curtis said to Sonny, “You’re stars. You should reside in heaven!” The house was $750,000. Both houses seemed like a trophy, Sonny says, and that the Big House was 54 rooms and 30,000 sq ft. [Wikipedia says the house is 12,000 sq ft.]

Sonny says the purchase was a grave mistake and there were lots of misfortunes associated with the house and it was too big for a tiny family. He said the house had cold, bad vibes and was only good for hiding troubles. You wonder then why he later wanted to fight for it. He says Cher furnished it in three days.

Cher says “I don’t think anyone ever sat in the living room.”

Cher admits she broke down in tears asking Sonny if they could buy it. Cher says she rarely cried or asked for anything.” She says, Sonny wanted the house too because it was “a gargantuan symbol of our comeback,” their “castle on the hill” and that it would change things. Cher admits she had the house decorated with antiques from Europe. She says, “it was stunning” and she lists the outdoor buildings and describes Chas’ bedroom, although notes that Chas preferred the tack house to her bedroom (famously depicted on Sonny & Cher’s last duet album). The kitchen was her least favorite, Cher said and that the paneled library was her favorite space and one of the smallest. Cher correctly notes the 12, 200 sq ft of the house with 9 bedrooms, 10 baths. Sonny never wanted to throw parties, she said, except for Thanksgiving, Christmas and Chas’ birthday.  Sonny stopped her friends like Joey from coming over.

Busyness & Las Vegas

Cher says Sonny was “turning into one of ‘the suits.'” He wasn’t happy being an entertainer but wanted to be a mogul. She missed the old pasta-making Sonny with Chas on his hip. Now he just spent hours in meeting with lawyers. Cher talks about “The Benevolent Army of El Primo,” the jackets, all which was kind of a joke but kind of not a joke. Cher feels herself disconnecting, shutting down in fights. The CBS family “kept me going” she says but she longed to have own opinions and make friends. She felt closed in. They had no dinners out, no concerts, no movies. Their relationship was all work. Outside of that she had shopping and Chas.

Sonny feels Cher is ungrateful. Cher says Sonny was on a mission never to be poor again.

Sonny acknowledges it was a hectic calendar. “If there was a break in the TV show, I booked out of town concerts…That’s where the big money was.” He said they made 50-60k on a good night. They made 4 million that way, he says and that “Cher’s complaints were a broken record.” [But during the breakup story below, he will act dumbfounded.]

Cher’s defense: “Work was hard on me” and she said she had a more demanding TV show schedule than Sonny did. Sonny also wanted them to be recording new [solo and duet] music and doing shows on the road. “We have to make the most of this second chance…this is our time,” Cher remembers Sonny saying.  Everything became “a big blur,” all the TV work, fittings, photoshoots, interviews, tours, recordings, being a mom. She said they did 50 shows that year and Sonny arranged it so they would have to tape 2 shows a week sometimes, film two shows in 3 days show so they could spend 9 days on the road. It saved the producers money but Cher felt she had no time to catch a breath and it was double work for everyone on the show. She said they did that about once a month. She quotes producer George Schlatter as saying, “If Sonny & Cher were driving into Hollywood from the valley, Sonny would take a gig on Mulholland to break up the trip.”

Sonny says he was “building our savings” and he understood that “she hated the grind” and how she never could play in Vegas without getting sick, which Sonny took as “an excuse to cut the run short.” Sonny loved Vegas. “We were huge there…broke house records.” Sonny loved the “Disneyland for adults” aspect, what he called “the dark artificiality” of it. He admits Cher hated “everything about it” and that she hid in hotel room with room service and the TV. He pictured her as reclusive as Hugh Hefner, which is a tragic misreading of a person desperate to go out and have some fun for a change, just not in anyway like the way Sonny wanted to have fun.

Sonny went to see Elvis with Denis. He’d never seen Elvis but they often played Vegas at the same time. Sonny was fascinated by his power over an audience. It’s interesting to compare how Sonny and Cher each describe seeing Elvis perform. They are both mesmerized by it.

Elvis invited Sonny and Denis backstage “I’d never seen anyone like Elvis,” whom Sonny said had the charisma to transform a mediocre show. Sonny said Elvis “didn’t give a shit” and like Cher he would probably rather trade handshakes for money than perform. Sonny doesn’t mention this but like Elvis, Cher would also become a mesmerizing and hypnotic personality.

Sonny is actually great at explaining Elvis in his book, though. He said Elvis told him he liked the S&Cs version of “What Now My Love [Sonny mis punctuates the title] and that he listened to it before recording his own version (which sounds more like the original French version to me).

Sonny said he and Cher had a private plane and would be mobbed at airports, and that they had packed shows. But that Cher was “absorbed in needlepoint” on plains and in dressing rooms and always looking bored and disinterested.

Cher says she needlepointed herself half to death from the stress.

Sonny says romance became a commodity. Both agree they were suppressing their relationship troubles.

Cher felt alienated, not allowed to have friends over or “fraternize with the band.” By this time her sister was busy working as an actress. Cher tells about the Tupperware story and this is one of the final straws.

The Breakup Story

Sonny begins his breakup chapter with two diary entries that look back on the implosion, his November 4, 1972, entry where “Everything has exploded. Chastity doesn’t know mom and dad are on the ropes.” He says he’s been so worried about their careers, he’s never worried about their relationship.  [Sonny, even your own diary begs to differ].

Then a few days later on November 11, “Cher wants to run like a racehorse but she can’t find a track. I used to be the jokey. She shoved the saddle up my ass.”

[This is a terrible analogy because it kind of proves Cher’s point. She’s not a horse. WTH.] He says Cher was “admittedly miserable.” He talks about the worst time in his life, when he was married to Donna and lost his job before Christmas and then his car broke down.

They both take time to tell this story.

Sonny introduces the day by talking about Cher being antsy and unhappy (for no reason he can understand).

Cher introduces her version by talking about her breakup catalyst, not Bill Hamm (Sonny never obscures his name), but her soon-to-be best friend, Paulette, who was a 21-year-old worldly Armenian, sophisticated and dating their road manager, Jerry Ridgeway. They’ve been best friends for over 50 years now, Cher says. And Cher was initially allowed this friend because for some reason “Sonny never saw her as a threat.” [And he never acknowledges Paulette’s role in their breakup in his own memoirs.] Cher enjoyed listening to Paulette’s life stories. They each wanted the other’s life. By that time Cher says she wasn’t eating or sleeping. (In Forever Fit Cher Cher says she was suicidal and down to 94 pounds, only eating a few bites of egg a day.) Cher says she feels the TV show changed Sonny completely but that she still loved him. “He didn’t notice me anymore” because he was trying to be a mogul. This is a consistent Cher story in interviews (from at least Believe-era on). Cher felt she couldn’t trust him anymore and she was needlepointing herself “to death.” She is candid that she had no desire to have more kids with Sonny although she admitted he was a great dad and that he and Chaz had a special relationship that “didn’t include me.” Chas was El Primo, Jr.

Cher says that they had back-to-back shows in Reno and Las Vegas. At the Sahara they had two shows a night in the Congo Room. She was feeling trapped. Paulette was starting to help her as a gofer and a dresser. After shows, Paulette would hang out with the band smoking pot, drinking beer, playing guitars. Cher was envious of her stories.

Cher says she was exhausted and asked Sonny for a vacation to Europe and he rolled his eyes. He called her selfish. Cher says she was crazy with loneliness and had been sitting on the balcony rails of hotel rooms ready to jump “five or six times” (!!!) But “one morning everything changed.” Between shows that day she figured she could just leave Sonny. Paulette was oblivious to Cher’s condition and told her about Bill Hamm’s crush on her. There’s a story with the Etch-a-Sketch and the song “Superstar.”

Sonny says It was a Saturday night. “Cher and I were breaking attendance records while ignoring our personal differences.” Between shows, Sonny remembers that he, Cher, Denis and our guitarist Bill Hamm went over to the Hilton to see Tina Turner. They then went back to Flamingo and did their late show and received three standing ovations. David Brenner was their opening act and jokes about “the dough we were making” and “our opulent suite.”

Cher says it was The Righteous Brothers that the band wanted to see at the Hilton Hotel and that Cher went with Paulette and Ridgeway. Not Sonny. Everyone acted like she was crazy for doing something without Sonny. She sat next to Bill and he put his hand on her knee. (I can’t wait for this movie.)

In Cher’s version, she returned from the Righteous Brothers and had to ignore Sonny’s fury. She left for her dressing room, ignoring him. After the show she told Paulette she wanted to hang out with the band and they hung out in Jeff Porcaro’s room. None of this is in Sonny’s book. Cher said the band was “nervous as hell.” Bill and Cher left to go look for cigarettes. They ran into David Brenner. Cher says David and Brenner were close and Brenner was nervous about seeing Cher out and about without Sonny, too. Bill asks Cher how she can live this way. Some kissing happens. They go back into the room. Sonny calls pissed. Cher says she’s just hanging with the guys. “You could have heard a pin drop in the room,” Cher says. Cher says she told Sonny on the phone that she was bringing Bill up to their room.

Sonny says they were exhausted after the second show and there was strained conversation at the elevator. On the road, Sonny says, they had a truce to engage in “shallow chitchat” because they were “forced to share close quarters.” (How does he not see a train wreck coming?) Anyway, Sonny says he is looking forward to sleep. [This must be one of the nights he wasn’t out with other women.] Cher shot me a pained look. “Bill Hamm is coming up,” Sonny remembers Cher saying. He figured they were working on songs together. [How was that allowed? Working on music without Sonny?] When they get to the hotel room, Sonny has Cher saying, “I’m in love with Bill Hamm. I want you to leave.”

Says says he wanted to talk about it. “Let’s talk, okay.” Sonny says he “never suspected” was “shocked” and felt “flat-footed.” He admits he thought of killing Bill Hamm or hitting him. Sonny says when Bill came in to the room, he was oblivious but soon figured it out. (Sonny is always more sympathetic to Cher’s boyfriends and husbands than he was to Cher somehow.) He said Cher had a “fearless nerve.”

Cher says the nerve was all Bill Hamm’s who must have had “balls the size of something huge.” (That’s how much everyone was afraid of Sonny.) Cher doesn’t have Sonny asking to talk about anything. She has him in a chair staring her down and she remembers shocking herself by saying she wants to sleep with Bill in their room. She says she didn’t mean it but it seemed like an expeditious was to escape The Sonny. Cher says Sonny returned silence (not a plea for dialogue) and that he asked her “how long to you think you’ll need?” Cher said two hours and not another word was spoken and Sonny left the room.

According to Sonny, he fantasized about breaking whiskey bottles over their heads or perhaps destroying the suite (which would have been a real rock star move for him). But he just left, felling defeated, like a “zombie.”

Cher acknowledges that she had put Hamm in jeopardy. She said they just spent the night talking. Cher appreciated his friendship and sympathy and she cried on his shoulder.

Sonny says he went to play Blackjack (which is kind of odd) and that Bill’s girlfriend tapped him on the shoulder looking for Bill. Sonny says he told her what was going on. Sonny said, “let’s go to your room” and “she did not hesitate.” Wow. They had retribution sex which was unsatisfying. Sonny says, because they “bumped into each other with the enthusiasm of two people who had just been mugged.” (Very good metaphor though.)

Sonny says Bill returned in the morning. Sonny and the unnamed “girl” where still together in bed. “He brushed by me as if I was not there.” When Sonny returned to the opulent S&C suite, it was 5 am and Cher was asleep in bed. Sonny says he took off his wedding ring (and you wonder if he had it on all those times he was cheating on Cher) and had a “disturbed” sleep next to Cher.

In Cher’s version, Sonny returns at 5 am. They agree on this.

But Sonny says he wanted to talk to Cher when they both woke up and he remembers telling her it wasn’t too late to change things. Cher asked him what he did last night and he said “I screwed Bill’s girlfriend.” And Cher said, “that’s funny, we didn’t even go to bed together.” Sonny said he wanted to ring her neck. (You have to admit, he was easily played into that situation. In his own version of it, anyway.)

Sonny says they then talked the entire day about everything, how the love was gone and he says Cher was “calm and casual.” Sonny says he tried talking to her because he says he knew she didn’t love Bill Hamm. “He was a pawn in her game,” the last “straw to break my back…he was her way out of Sonny & Cher.”

This is all very strident projection because there is no outside collaboration and Cher denies ever wanting to “escape Sonny & Cher,” although she did want to escape the schedule and the loneliness.

Sonny admits he was “also stark, raving mad…the closest I’ve come to real craziness.”

According to Cher there was no conversation. He treated her very coldly when he came back and by then she knew he didn’t love her anymore. She says while she was half asleep Sonny pulled off her wedding ring. (which is very creepy). She says she woke up in the afternoon and Sonny was gone and she knew there was no way she could perform that night. It was then, Cher says, that Sonny sent Chas and their nanny back to L.A., “another of his unilateral decisions.”

Sonny says Cher insisted on her love for Bill during that day-long conversation. Their next showtime was approaching. Sonny says he asked Cher to have Bill come up and they all talked in the dressing room but the “discussion was a futile waste of breath.” Sonny admitted he couldn’t perform until there was resolution to the drama. Their manager had been calling them all day on the phone and leaving notes under their hotel door. At 4 pm, they cancelled the remaining shows that night and for the rest of the run. Unfortunately no one told their opening act, David Brenner, Sonny says, and so he showed up for his cue   at 8 pm.

[It was due to the cancellations that rumors started in the press about Sonny having assaulted Cher. See the Rolling Stone interview of 1973.]

Sonny says, “Denis went off to kill Bill.” (I should watch that movie.)

Sonny says Denis spoke to Cher, saying she wanted to leave town. Dennis agreed it was a good idea. They feared CBS would hear the news. Cher wanted to go to San Francisco with Bill. “Dennis made the arrangements.” He also hired a P.I. to follow her but the P.I. lost Cher at the San Francisco airport.

Sonny says he booked Chas and the Nanny on a plane to L.A. (making it sound like he did that after Cher left town). Sonny says he was “too numb” to function and when he got back to L.A. he stayed in bed depressed for two weeks and got down to 130 pounds.

According to Cher, her exit day happened differently. That day she went walking on the strip alone, but she was sent back into the hotel by autograph seekers. She found Sonny sulking in his dressing room. She asked him for $500 in cash. He gave her the money without saying anything except that America would hate her for breaking them up.

Cher says she left for Paulette and Jerry’s room as a safe hideout. Bill was there getting ready to leave for Texas. It is here, Cher says, when she found out Sonny slept with Bill’s girlfriend in revenge the night before, not from a conversation with Sonny earlier that morning. Cher asked Bill to go to San Francisco with her instead of back to Texas. All she could think of was going to Sausalito. Cher says nothing about Denis Pregnolato arranging anything with Sonny’s blessing. And it’s doubtful she would trust Denis (after Tennis-Lesson-gate). According to Cher is was Jerry Ridgeway who loaned Cher his rental car and he was worried about it, afraid of losing his job. Hamm and Cher then took separate cars from the San Francisco airport but got lost in that fog. Cher knew the P.I. was behind them and they got lost too, she says. They all ended up back at the airport hotel.

But then Sonny says Cher called Denis a day after they left saying she wanted to come home but that she feared Sonny’s reaction. Cher came back to their bedroom but Sonny says they were “strangers, zombies, enemies.” Luckily, Sonny says, they had 54 rooms to spread out in.

In Cher’s version, she says Denis found them at the San Francisco hotel and called to threaten them, saying it would be “really bad for Bill if you don’t come home.”

Cher says within a week they were back filming the TV show. She confirms Sonny looked bad when she arrived home, exhausted. She said he had the demeanor of being beaten and looked gaunt. But immediately she was pulled into a meeting with Irwin, the lawyer, about breaches of contracts and costings of millions.

Sonny says this all happened right before taping the 1972 Christmas show. And that the producers knew but they kept it a secret. At the end of November, Sonny says he went traveling for two weeks to clear his head. He went to France, England, Nassau and Miami but he had no fun. (If only he had only consented to this trip with Cher when she pleaded for it, maybe none of this would have happened.)

In his December 1972 diary, Sonny talks about how they look like a “warm and loving” couple but the situation “felt cold and hateful.” Sonny admits that his next conversations with Cher were about keeping the business together (and that begs the question of why she would agree to that if she was trying to get out of the act). He says he did most of the talking “in a familiar repetition” of past conversations. (So how did he ever know how she felt about anything ever?) He says Cher agreed they were in a “lucrative business” and they agreed to have separate personal lives.

(So either Cher wanted out of the act or she didn’t. It doesn’t sound like she did. She was willing to keep it going.)

A later Sonny diary entry talks about how neither Cher nor Sonny had any kind of family life and that Cher used to worry about that, according to Sonny. “I would tell her we would build our own. Now again I have no family.” Sonny does seem to feel victimized but likes to attribute that to Cher. But it is a sad diary entry, nonetheless. Sonny’s diary gets a bit  melodramatic (understandably): “She’s not mine anymore. Nothing has any meaning.”

Sonny claims Cher was a changed person (too) but that he wouldn’t trade those ten years because “they were the best of my life.” (I do feel Sonny is being honest here but that he has serious blind spots in hindsight.)

Sonny says they each moved into one half of The Big House. Sonny claims they did the same thing “with our money, our daughter and everything else.” (Except, stay tuned, they never did divide the money.)  And, he says, they attempted to separate without disaster. He understands by then that Cher wants freedom. “I thought I was teaching; she thought I was intimidating.” [But then so did the whole band think he was intimidating.]

Cher says she had no money and never did receive her share. Leaving Sonny was losing all the money. (That alone makes you believe she would have stayed if she could). Cher says she was given $5,000 a month (no chump change) while they were separated and a rented condo in Malibu near Moonshadows where she spent a lot of time sleeping. Bill Hamm came to visit there (and you get the sense that here is where she learned what a good relationship could be like) but they weren’t allowed to go out to dinner or to movies and she was never allowed to be seen in the company of other men in public. Sonny had no such stipulations it would seem.

After the Breakup

By the summer of 1973 Sonny says he was no longer trying to get back together with Cher. (Which is a strange thing to say but Cher has reported in the past that there was a period when he was doing that, trying to get back together.)

It seems like pretty soon he moved their secretary, Connie Foreman, into the Sonny wing of the Big House. Sonny mentions Cher didn’t seem upset by this. Sonny calls Connie a former cigarette girl at Pips (that club where Lucille Ball would show up and they would all play backgammon) and I’m reminded here of his violently slapping the cigarette tray into the face of the cigarette girl in their movie Good Times.

Cher says Connie was their assistant and agrees with Sonny. She liked Connie and says Connie would get tired of Sonny’s rules and come over to hang out in Cher’s wing to listen to music and smoke cigarettes.

Cher says she became friends with Sonny again, that they could enjoy each other again. Sonny tells her he thought about throwing her off the balcony back in Vegas and says he would have pleaded insanity. Then getting a book deal and TV show from it. (Yikes!) Cher said living with him made her want to jump off the balcony. They laughed.

Sonny says friendliness on his part was an act “deserving an Academy Award.” Ouch. At home, he says they were two strangers. Sonny says he still saw Bill as her pawn. He thinks the same, he says, about future boyfriends Robert Camilletti and Richie Sambora. Neither of these men have said they felt like pawns and have pretty much only good things to say about their time with Cher (Sambora commenting pretty recently). Gregg Allman’s worst comment about Cher was to say she wasn’t a good singer. (Imagine!) Sonny says Cher “wears men like ornaments.” Then he goes on to admit he went out to party at the clubs after they broke up, “hitting on chicks right and left.” (I think this man has previous sentence amnesia, but we can all see his stripes, right?) Anyway, he says Cher and Bill broke up after several months and she started dating their keyboard player David Paich. Then Bernie Taupin.

This all happened around the time of her hit “Half Breed” and what Cher calls a “grueling summer tour.”

Cher talks about “pianist David Paich,” whose father Marty was their orchestra leader. (Sonny doesn’t mention this.) Cher said this only lasted during the grueling summer tour. Cher says it was during this tour that Cher, Paulette, Paich, the Porcaro bothers, Hungate and Lukather (I will now start calling them Proto-Toto) were hanging out in a playground on the  swings after which Sonny via his loyal guy Denis called each member of the band individually to threaten to break fingers and blow up cars for hanging out with Cher.  The band and even Paulette stopped talking to Cher upon threat of being fired. Only David Brenner would talk to Cher and even he was afraid, according to Cher. But Toto ostensibly could weigh in on this if they would ever admit to working for Sonny & Cher.

So Cher started singing with her back to Sonny. This was around the time of their second Live album at the Sahara in Las Vegas. Cher notes that Sonny’s comments and stories during that show were designed to make her feel guilty. But she maintains that “he was the one who caused it to end.” Cher says she always thought he would come to realize she “was the one who was always there for him, who loved him” and that she knew “he loved me, just not enough to be faithful or kind.”

Sigh. Did he come to realize that?

Sonny says their lawyers did all the real fighting and he moved on thinking about how to survive without S&C.

Cher tells her Lucille Ball story and adds she used Lucy’s lawyer, Mickey Rudin. Sonny calls Paulette “our secretary” and accuses her of spreading rumors that Cher wanted to get back together with him. Cher has Paulette telling Cher “good for you.”

Sonny talks about a “bad” trip to Paris. He doesn’t mention Cher being there but Cher says around this time she went to Paris with Sonny. They stayed at the Raphael hotel and this is where Sonny’s was taking a bath and Cher is telling him modern girls won’t put up with his bullshit anymore. Cher talks about Sonny’s M.O. of gift-buying to placate the cheating. Sonny doesn’t mention any of this.

They go to the 1973 Golden Globes together to give the award for Best Musical or Comedy Series. Cher mentions a fox coat she wore and  multicolored skirt which she says is one of her favorite looks of all time.

Cher talks about Captain Spike Nesmyth, the captured pilot who was a Sonny & Cher fan and the POW/MIA bracelets they wore. Sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher talks about Chastity’s 4th birthday party. [There’s a magazine article depicting one of those birthday parties. I’ll try to dig it up.] Cher talks about going to the 1973 Academy Awards with Sonny in the gold dress to present the award for best song, “The Morning After” from The Poseidon Adventure.

Cher tells the therapist story and Sonny’s interloping. He doesn’t tell this story. Cher admits going to Joe DeCarlo again for friendship and advice. DeCarlo tells her about Sonny’s infidelities with all the womens, including hookers, waitresses and dancers, how he would book an extra room. Women started telling Cher these stories too, saying Sonny claimed he had an open marriage with Cher.

Cher tells the Jack Benny/Johnny Carson party story where she went with Sonny and got kicked out for laughing at Lucille Ball’s irreverent political commentary. Sonny doesn’t mention this story.

Cher talks about feeling liberated and independent and adventurous, dressing how she liked, learning how to shop for food and sign checks. Poignantly she talks about not having to worry about whether she was laughing too loud. The laughing-too-loud thing. This is always a sign of an uneven relationship and I’ve witnessed it with couples within my own family and in song.

One page 214 of the paperback Sonny talks about the Mother Nature skit and the tension on the set. They both talk about this skit. They both agree Cher ad-libed telling Sonny to go fuck himself. Sonny has nobody laughing and the director suggesting they try it again and Sonny saying “not without our lawyers.”

Cher talks about the skit on page 288 (hardback). She said it was a Chiffon Margarine commercial spoof and it was a few days after leaving Sonny. “What’s the secret of life?” Sonny asks. “Go fuck yourself,” Cher responds. She says Sonny collapsed in hysterics and she did too, along with Sonny’s comment “not without our lawyers.”

She says later Sonny called her act of leaving him in Vegas her “Nagasaki moment,” words he had printed for her on a gold dog tag. In disagreement with Sonny (who feels he should get an Oscar), Cher maintains they weren’t acting affection after they separated. “You can’t fake that shit,” she says.

But in any case, they both agreed they could easily be Sonny & Cher professionally. Cher says she liked working with him but didn’t know “how to read him” anymore. They say the exact same thing about each other.

By December of 1973, she was seeing David Geffen.

David Geffen Susses Out Cher Enterprises

Sonny says Cher turned suddenly into “an ice maiden” and was testy to the whole crew, less of a team player, less approachable and kept saying things like “I have to talk to David.” Sonny thought she meant Proto-Toto’s David Paich but it was this producer fellow. The irony of all ironies is this Sonny comment: “I wrote him off as a little wimpy guy.” (First off, it’s totally wrong and second it’s almost verbatim what the mayor of Palm Springs wrote off Sonny as in the 1980s at his first running for mayor). But Sonny quickly admits now he misjudged the man who would become “the most powerful, respected, wealthy and feared man in Hollywood…one of my great misjudgments.” That must be his second biggest misjudgments after thinking he could mistreat Cher for so long and keep a golden rainbow coming out of his ass. (Too much?)

Anyway, Cher says Sonny was uneasy when he found out about Geffen being as smart and powerful as Geffen was, “much more than himself.” Cher starts hanging out A-listers now: Bob Dylan and his wife, Jack Nicholson and Anjelica Houston, Warren Beatty and his girlfriend Julie Christy, Lou Adler.

Cher says it was Sonny who began to change. At work, things had been friendly but he stopped being friendly. Not his goofy fun self on the set. (Someone from the show needs to weigh in here.)

Sonny saw Geffen as in a conspiracy to get Cher a solo CBS show (and solo record and movie deals). Cher denies this. Sonny admits Cher denies this but he believes it anyway. Cher says that Sonny & Cher’s agent pitched the idea to them once at Geffen’s house but that they asked him to leave and never spoke to him again because he was ostensibly Sonny’s friend.

But Geffen was exploring her existing contracts. David and Cher then learned about Cher Enterprises and how Cher had zero votes, rights or stake in the company and was entitled to none of their income over the last ten years. Sonny owned 95% and their lawyer owned 5%. Cher was an employee and she received the noblese oblige of Sonny plus 2 weeks vacation. She also has no way to make money outside of this enterprise without Sonny’s permission.

(Just the name of it sounds demeaning and exploitive.)

Sonny talks about contracts. He says their TV contract had 3 more years. They had just finished year 2. Cher agrees with this. She says she was was locked into the contract for 2 more years. She says she had stayed during the bad times, Sonny’s movie dramas, the tax fiasco and was heartbroken and “so mad” and “thank God I had David.”

They each represent each other as cold. And Sonny, we have seen, has a tendency to project. Not that Cher was probably the best communicator there ever was at this time.

Sonny has Cher saying he and Geffen should get into a room together and whoever wins wins. Cher has Sonny refusing to renegotiate during her attempts to talk it over and being met with Sonny’s cold eyes and his smoking cigars. She had a child to raise, her sister and her mother to worry about, she says. She couldn’t work for nothing.

By January of 1974 Sonny says he is tired of faking a marriage and that Cher was refusing to work anymore “for our corporation Cher Enterprises.” (Our.) A few pages later he says “Cher and I were employed by Cher Enterprises. Cher and I were 50/50 partners. That is not only how the corporation was set up, that is the law of community property in California.”

Then a page later Sonny contradicts himself and says, “when Cher wanted out of her contractual obligations, when she wanted to split Cher Enterprises 50/50, I said no.”

Sonny has the gall to say about himself in the third person, “Cher decided to shoot Sonny in the back.”

Anyway, his reasoning was that he had managed them all those years for nothing. Plus, he feared Cher would step into all those deals he worked so hard to make, leaving him out (just as he was leaving Cher out now). That he did all the backstage work was not an insignificant or untrue claim. Cher admits he did all the heavy lifting behind the scenes. A fair deal would have been to pay him out for what would have been a manager’s salary.

But listen to me, trying to figure a way through for Sonny & Cher.

No biographer of Cher disputes that the contract was 95/5 Sonny and his lawyer. This doesn’t seem like a situation of Cher’s word against Sonny’s. But I suppose former biographers all could have taken Cher at her word and not researched the actual contract.

But here’s the thing: Cher received no money on the corporation’s earnings after its demise, leading us to believe…she did not, in fact, have an ownership stake in it. She finally got The Big House (no small thing but she says she had to buy it from Sonny) and a portion of the publishing royalties off Sonny & Cher songs, which Sonny will soon express disgruntlement about.

Cher says, “Sonny undoubtedly was responsible for making us who we were…[but] he could never have achieved that without my voice….He made me leave.” No Cher without Sonny.  But also, she says, no Sonny without Cher.

And it does sound like Sonny brought about the disruption he insists he feared the most. Sonny says their act had contracts out for 10-15 years (at Caesar’s Palace and on MCA). And, I think, it would have been amazing to see if they could have survived very bigly into the era of MTV. I doubt they would have. But in any case, Sonny says Cher told him she refused to honor the contracts.

Cher did call Fred Silverman and ask him not to pick up the TV show for another season, later insisting to him that she would never leave to do a solo show on an another network (there had been rumors), which is kind of an implicit negotiation to do a solo show on CBS. Cher told him she couldn’t work as an employee with no salary. This was around the time of their opening number “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” and Cher noting that his smile did not quite reach his eyes.

Sonny says, “I was not going to be the one to end it. But Cher refused to work anymore.” (For nothing, he forgets to say.) Two paragraphs later he says, “the week of the final episode of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, I filed for legal separation from Cher. I’d absorbed enough. I wanted it over.”

So much for “I wasn’t going to be the one.” Cher says he filed for divorce on 18 February but I think Sonny is right and that it was legal separation. Some editor should have looked that up as public record?

After the Friday taping, (Cher says it was in January 1974 and everyone was crying, her mom, sister and the crew, but Sonny doesn’t mention it), Sonny says they took separate jets to their final Houston Astrodome concert. Sonny says they earned $150,000 that day. He says they were the biggest, hottest act in the country at that time and they were playing what was the largest indoor venue in America.

The both agree the show was miserable, a rodeo venue that smelled like shit. Cher says it was a working rodeo with Elvis and the Jackson Five on the bill too. This is where her hair got caught in her dress’ zipper and Sonny had to cut it free with the scissors.  Sonny says Cher left the venue without a word to Sonny or their crew and he was left to say all the goodbyes and farethewells. Cher says all the people they worked with were loyal to Sonny.

Sonny says Cher filed for divorce on February 20 and claimed involuntary servitude. Sonny calls her a “characteristic victim” (says the complaining victim) Cher doesn’t dispute the divorce filing and says Sonny countersued for lost earnings and sued Geffen for interfering and asked for a temporary restraining order against him.

Cher says the news was “brutal” against her but Sonny continually complains that he was the one Cher successfully made out to be the villain. At the same time, Sonny was suing Cher for 14 million and Geffen for 13 million. Cher is just suing for divorce and contract freedom but Sonny keeps claiming for Cher it was all about the money.

The Big House, Part 2

Sonny also says Cher changed the locks on the house. But Sonny doesn’t mention that he kicked Cher out first and Cher no longer had the Malibu lease so she was homeless and moved in with David Geffen. (This was the era of Joni Mitchell being there all the time too while making Court and Spark).

Here is where Cher contradicts her own story when she says, “he never wanted that house. It was my dream house…” But back on page 268 (hardback) she says “Sonny wanted the house too.” And he did at least want to keep it from her. But by the time of his own memoir, he never liked that house. Cher was advised to return to the house and she says at that time she did change the locks and Sonny & Connie had to move into the St. Cloud house which “he made me sign over to him.”

In his diary, Sonny says “I have no good feelings left for Cher.” He finds it all confounding because “Cher is not a fighter” and he doesn’t believe Cher and Geffen are in love, that it’s a relationship of convenience and Cher has made him her pawn.” He sees Cher as, and I quote, “either a subservient Geisha girl or a killer.”

Wow.

Cher eventually sells The Big House fully furnished (a few months after Elijah’s birth) at a price “too low” and to a “carpet baron.” But she doesn’t say why she sells it.

Parenting Chas

Sonny says Chastity is confiding in him that she feels neglected because Cher has become a surrogate mom to Tatum O’Neal. Cher barely mentions Tatum O’Neal aside from one dismissive sentence. Cher says she and Sonny are civil when discussing Chas on the phone but Sonny says “Cher, in true passive-aggressive form, forced me to deal with Geffen in order to spend time with Chastity….So I wound up negotiating with Geffen over when I could and could not see my daughter.”

Cher says Chas was friendly with Geffen at first and then something changed and she took Sonny’s view of Geffen. Later,  Cher said, they both decided not to trash each other’s lovers to Chastity (if not in memoirs). Sonny said he applied for full custody, which Cher said “shattered me.” She had taken Chas to Hugh Hefner’s to play in the pool and Sonny used this as the reason. Cher says Hugh Hefner had known Chas her whole life. And it’s true, Sonny even booked Sonny & Cher on his Playboy show and had been pictured as a family at his house. So WTF Sonny.

In the end, Sonny got even less time from the judge than Cher has planned to give him. But they worked out a cordial deal between themselves.

In Chas’ three books, he has not weighed in extensively on this time period.

The Solo Shows, The Settlement & Gregg Allman

Now here is where reading Sonny’s memoir the first time I completely lost confidence in him as a reliable narrator. Sonny claims that in the summer of 1974 Cher announced The Cher Comedy Hour. No other Cher biographies mention this and neither does Cher in her memoir.

Sonny says Cher immediately went to work on a new series and it was “an instant smash,” that she was on the covers of People and Newsweek (it was Time, Cher wasn’t on the cover of Newsweek until the 1980s), and “women embraced her as a role model and everything I knew she was capable of began happening. I had no problem with Cher’s success.”

I actually believe this part. I think in some ways Sonny was Cher biggest fan and her worst friend and lover. And, as a big Cher fan (and a big Sonny & Cher fan), it makes me feel very torn about Sonny.

Sonny continues to lament that Cher cast him as the bad guy and that Cher basically “walked off with the franchise” and with it took away “his whole sense of identity.”

I believe that too.

But here’s where I lose sympathy with Sonny’s  chronology. He says his friends, manager, agent and just general people said ‘look at Cher’s successful solo show. There’s no reason why Sonny Bono cannot have a hit TV show, too.’ So in the summer of 1974 he says he presented a solo show to ABC with the pitch “if CBS was having success with the Cher variety hour…”

Sonny’s show debut was on August 14, 1974. He excerpts his diary to say “I have been knocked down more times…and now I’ll have to be judged all over again.” (No victim here.)

The big problem is that his show premiered and was canceled after 13 weeks in 1974 and Cher’s solo show didn’t even begin airing until February 1975 and this is because Sonny’s lawsuits kept Cher from working on anything new for almost the entirely of 1974. There was the Dark Lady album on MCA, her last album on that label, and some modeling work with Vogue.

So his whole long story is false. Cher’s show did not happen before his. How could he misremember that?

Of course Sonny’s solo show didn’t succeed, although it had the majority of the cast and crew of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour and the same formula. It was just missing that one magical thing that was maybe worth at least 50%, the star power.

Cher said it was “a copy of our show” and had rotating female guests to stand in for her. She expresses sympathy that the network put him in an impossible timeslot at ABC, on Sunday against Kojak and Disney and that she didn’t want him to fail. She says she was backstage with Chas for the first taping of the show.

Sonny says, “It didn’t work for a lot of reasons.” (Another example of Sonny knows; he wasn’t caught not knowing.) “It was the only game in town, so I played it.” (A far cry from ‘why can’t Sonny Bono have a hit TV show like the Cher show that’s only happening in my head.’)

Cher said while Sonny’s show was on the air, CBS announced her new show would air on 8 pm Sunday’s against Sonny’s show which Cher thought was cruel to them both. But his show “was cancelled before mine began.” Which is the truth. And how Sonny could have published a different story is mind-boggling since it was an easy thing for any editor or fact checker to look up in any library’s reference section. (I was doing that in the late 70s, so I know how easy that was.)

This also confirms a childhood memory that I’ve always had that I could never explain, that for a minute the public thought they might have to choose between watching a Sonny show or a Cher show.

Anyway, then Cher tells the Average White Band overdose story.  She said Sonny was furious about it. But he doesn’t mention it in his book.

Sonny laments that at the cancellation of his solo show he was “alone now” and “it was a bitch.” He says by now Cher’s show was in its second season and that the first had done well. (But it hadn’t even started yet.) Connie is gone by the end of 1974 and he’s very down about his situation, says his diary. But then he tells a story about going to David Geffen and Cher’s 1974 Christmas party where he meets Raquel Welch and they leave the party to go to a movie together. They saw The Towering Inferno and left early because they both hated it.

Let’s pause to consider Sonny’s comments about Connie. “I was trying to get Con off my back. The only thing she did well was fight.” He blames the relationship on rebounding. He admits he’s still friends with Cher, (which is why he was invited and went to her Christmas party).

He then tells about his PR man Jay Bernstein (who “was better at launching Farrah Fawcett’s career than mine”). He takes his variety show on the road with Richard Lewis because David Brenner wasn’t available. Later Tim Conway opens for him and they become friends. But the show didn’t do well. He says Cher kept bashing him in the press. He says he’s not the dictator Cher said he was but he never mentions the whole El Primo thing and his own 1960s diary entries about “keeping her in line.”

And interestingly, it’s here where Sonny brings up the big fight they had after going out to see The Dirty Dozen. This is the fight Cher mentions occurring in the 1960s. He said it was their worst and funniest fight. He says the fight was about whether Cher had a killer instinct. Sonny thought she did. Cher didn’t think so. This led to a shouting match where Sonny commanded Cher to let him out and she did and then drove off “leaving me to walk 10 miles home.” His guy Denis picked him up. That was “the extent of his irate machismo she found necessary to criticize.” Oy vey.

In Cher’s version she let him out at Dead Man’s Curve (on Sunset Boulevard) and he was upset that she liked the movie and he accused her of being “sexually frustrated.” Cher attributed the fight in hindsight to Sonny’s tendency to force a riff so he could leave and go out on a date with someone else.

Sonny contends Cher never complained (except he has spent pages telling us that she always complained, that ingrate). He blames her for not communicating her unhappiness to him, (after complaining that she was always telling him she was unhappy). He admitted he knew she hated Vegas. But still Sonny chalks it all up to Cher’s villainization and lies.

He then goes into his own victimization: his ego was shot, he felt sorry for himself. But then he meets the model Susie Coelho in Palm Springs via Jay Bernstein.

He then talks about Cher’s new “peculiar relationship” with Gregg Allman and how “nothing attracted Cher like a mean, tough and potentially dangerous rock and roller.” (Uh…well, Sonny…err…are you describing yourself here too inadvertently?)

Another funny thing is that pages back Sonny says, “Geffen was exactly the kind of man Cher was attracted to—a powerful guy who took charge of her life and made things happen. To me he was a ruthless cutthroat.”

So…yeah. That’s how Cher likes ’em: dangerous and powerful and Sonny. Yeesh.

Cher says she and David Geffen had stopped living together in January of 2025 although they were still dating when she met Gregg Allman at the Troubadour one night.

Sonny and Cher kind of do describe her relationship with Allman similarly though in its “ups and downs.”  Sonny says it was “red-hot” to “non-existent” and that’s not too far from how Cher defines it too. Sonny admits Allman is a “gifted blues man” but also a “coked-out druggie” and a “southern cracker.” He uses the same hyperbole he used about Geffen to say Allman was “one of rock’s most volatile personalities.”

Cher has always insisted Allman was very gentle and sweet. So they disagree about that. But Cher admits “I had never been with a bad boy and he had a reputation as one quintessential bad boy.”

Sonny says Allman was “bent on self-destruction” and mentions the suicide of Jenny Arness, (a topic Cher avoids in her memoir). Sonny reminds us that Cher is not a drinker and was “as antidrug as I was.” He makes fun of her use of the name  “Gregory” instead of Gregg. Sonny thinks there’s some connection between “Greggory” and Cher’s father, John Sarkisian, who Sonny claims Cher did not say goodbye to before he passed away even though her biological dad had “cleaned up by then” because she “never forgave him for deserting her in childhood.” (Cher seems pretty ambivalent about Sarkisian in her memoirs but maybe there’s some kind of psychological connection there.) Sonny says he was happy that the new relationship pushed aside his “nemesis David Geffen.” With Geffen gone, Sonny says the two of them started chatting again and Cher was always asking him for advice.

Cher agrees that she would reach out to Sonny in a crisis and he knew how to handle the press.

Cher says Sonny called her up to invite her to appear on The Tonight Show hosted by George Segal as a surprise guest and they fell into their usual banter. This appearance helped Cher’s bad press around her Gregg Allman troubles. Sonny also helped with Chastity when Cher needed to spend time with Allman in a Buffalo rehab.

“As far as I was concerned, Cher and I were equal partners.” Sonny says he still “resented she was able to go on with her career, capitalizing on our past success and continuing to make millions while I was slogging my way across dime-sized stages for gas money.” That is a great sentence but it’s also ridiculous because he had the chance to keep making money with Cher if he let her actually make money on the act. He says he was 50% responsible for her stardom.

So is he saying he should get 50% of all her earnings in perpetuity? Now he’s all 50% guy.

The divorce breakdown according to Sonny: Cher got the 54-room Big House (although Cher claims she had to buy him out for that). Sonny got the 32-room St. Cloud house, which he says he had been renting out until he needed to move back into it with Connie. Cher was allowed to void all existing Sonny & Cher contracts but in exchange had to pay Sonny $750,000 in cash or work it off performing as Sonny & Cher, a combination of which she did in 1976 and 1977. Also, “she received 50% of all publishing royalties from the songs I wrote, checks she still cashes,” Sonny says as if that’s incredible.

But to think about it, the only money Cher received from 10 years of performing as Sonny & Cher (aside from gifts Sonny gave her when they were together, houses they lived in and shopping she did with their money), was nothing. The company structure put her in debt for 750k (according to Sonny; Cher says it was higher). The only money she ever made for herself from ten years of working as Sonny & Cher was from the publishing royalty agreement in the divorce, the very same one Mary Bono tried unsuccessfully to null and void a few years ago by arguing that a divorce agreement should die with the death of the spouse. Cher ended up having to sue for unpaid royalties (so at some point she stopped cashing those checks) and it’s unclear whether that was before or after Sonny died. He had no will and his estate was divided up between Mary Bono and his four children.

Here are two articles on the Mary Bono lawsuit:

The divorce was finalized on 26 June 1974 and 4 days later she marries Gregg Allman. From Cher we find out this was because she was pregnant but Sonny doesn’t know that yet. Sonny says her marriage and filing for divorce 9 days later was a “public joke.” Sonny says she confided to him in tears that Allman was mostly upset that she worked so much and was “no fun” and “never there.” This tells us more about the situation than we see in Cher’s memoir which kind of hedges around their issues.

Interestingly both Susie Coelho and Gregg Allman get not-nearly the ink you would expect they would as the next Sspouses to follow Sonny and Cher.

Sonny said Allman and Cher would come over and use his pool, which was more private than hers and that Cher would suntan there nude, which shocked Sonny. Sonny says, “Cher had become very liberal.” But then he admits he doesn’t really know her anymore and gets more information about her from People Magazine.

Sonny says Cher’s show took a dive in the ratings. Cher agrees with this and explains what happened. In the beginning Cher was a bigger hit than the Comedy Hour, according to Cher. The premiere had 21 million viewers and the show finally beat out The Wonderful World of Disney, which CBS had been trying and failing to do. But the show also had 2 censors that the Comedy Hour didn’t have, which made work difficult. But during the summer break, CBS played Joey & Dad in her timeslot and it bombed. So when she came back, her ratings fell from 23.3 to 7 and suddenly she was competing with The Six Million Dollar Man (which Sonny did a guest appearance on.) Also, Cher admits, David Geffen had left in aggravation over her relationship with Gregg Allman and without his contacts, they couldn’t get the A-list music acts anymore. Plus doing a show solo was too much.

Reuniting as Sonny & Cher

Sonny says Cher pitched a reboot of the Sonny & Cher show and he was incredulous but that Cher and Denis talked and worked things out. Sonny seems like he did it for opportunist reasons. He said Primtetime Network TV was “the kind of exposure I needed.” He said neither of them had made it solo (except Cher had kinda made it solo and would go on to make it solo, she just hit the first bump in the road). He said their friendship was like American and Soviet spies sitting on a beach; they could kill each other but they liked each other.”

Cher agrees that she asked Sonny back and he “instantly” said yes. She said Sonny negotiated with CBS the new deal and that it allowed Cher to repay Sonny for those cancelled contracts by way of the new show plus “road gigs.” He also had to square the pregnancy situation with CBS but Cher admits that Allman was “otherwise out of my life” at that time. Later, during show opening dialogues, they would mention him from time to time (as if he was backstage). Allman was at that time upset by the show’s press and that Cher was again working with Sonny. He told her he felt “heartbroken” and “made a fool of.”

Sonny talks about the the CBS press conference which he says occurred at Television City. Cher says it was the Beverly Wilshire.(It happened on 4 December 1975).

The new show premiered on 1 February 1976. Cher said it was one of the most watched programs in TV history at that time, up there with Who Shot J.R. (I remember hearing that statistic in other bios too but unfortunately there is not much online about this fact of TV history.) Cher says she thought the show was sharper and more relevant. They lost the mother-in-law jokes. She’s right. The second show is better. She said Sonny persuaded Harold Battiste into becoming their musical director. Cher said there was a lot of discussion about what songs they should sing as divorced people.

During the second show, Sonny said they got along better and he was sympathetic about Cher’s problems with Allman. He said their ratings were in the 20s but then CBS switched their time slot, which is what led to lower ratings and cancellation of the show. “Both Cher and I wanted to continue with the show.”

Cher agrees with this and talks about the last episode with a retrospective of 1960s Sonny & Cher singing “Baby Don’t Go,” which Sonny said he we wrote for her. Cher says they were on the road when they heard CBS wasn’t renewing the show. During the tour Cher said Sonny took pictures of Elijah learning to crawl down hotel hallways (just like Chas). Cher used a lot of Sonny’s photos and footage of Chas and Elijah on her first solo tour for Take Me Home and her Vegas/Monte Carlo shows. She has always always maintained Sonny was a good father and very good to Elijah.

Sonny says the show cancellation freed them to do concerts in huge arenas but Cher hated the road and got bored and sick, depressed and “insular.” She missed Elijah and at the halfway mark called off the rest of the tour and paid Sonny cash. And that was the end of Sonny & Cher, according to Sonny. Cher agrees she cut the tour short and paid her debts from her own pocket. She says she ended up paying him 1.4 million in cash, not $750,000.

Cher says after the tour, Sonny moved to Palm Springs where he would host BBQs and Cher would go sometimes with Chas. Sonny never ate, Cher said, just tasted things. Cher says he went through girlfriends and cheated on all of them. After one breakup he came to Cher tearful and gave her an apology in her kitchen. Sonny and this woman got back together, Cher says, and married and Chas was their bridesmaid. Cher calls the woman “Sarah” which, interestingly, is the name of one of Sonny’s girlfriends on The Love Boat (it’s that Deacon Dark episode where his girlfriend is deaf and he sings a sweet song to her at the end.) But Sonny’s next wife was named Susie.

Sonny says Cher was supportive Susie in Sonny’s life and he blames her for that, too, saying that “given her track record” he shouldn’t’ have listened. He says Susie and him were with each other for the wrong reasons and he was just lonely. (I’ve read Coelho’s book; she has nothing but good things to say about Sonny in it.)

Sonny comments on Cher’s albums around that time, Cherished (“a flop”) and Allman and Woman, Two the Hard Way (failed), and he dismisses her attempt to suppress her name on the Allman album cover as “something wrong” because she “hates to share the spotlight.” (Why would she even do the duet album then?)  Those two albums were probably the nadir of Cher’s 1970s output by they are the only post-breakup Cher albums he mentions: not Half Breed or Dark Lady (both which earned #1 hits), Stars or Take Me Home (which had another top 10 hit).  We’ll see later if he has anything to say about her 1980s comeback records.

Cher says it was her idea to drop her name because she wanted people to focus on the music and not her life in the tabloids.

Sonny says they became neighbors when Cher purchased the “Moorish mansion” (the Egyptian house) on Benedict Canyon Drive. Cher and Susie were friends and Cher would again sunbathe at their pool (nude again). It was here where Sonny first saw Cher’s large butt tattoo of the butterfly. He attributed that again to Cher trying to generate shock value and create controversy so she could then tell critics to “stick it.” Which, Sonny says in a moment of honesty, was “a trick she learned from me and I learned it from Phil Spector.”

Cher talks about going on tour with Allman in Japan and Europe but after he had a relapse she left the tour to return home to do final shows with Sonny in Hawaii. There Sonny had invited Bill Hamm back to the band to “mess with me,” Cher says. But they ended up reconnecting. It was here the Sonny & Cher act ends in Cher’s story. Of her experience with Allman Cher says she has to “learn things the hard way.”

Sonny talks about Chas’ school problems and finding out she was grades behind and this triggers his feelings of neglect (and particularly his neglect of Christy). But he doesn’t yet mention the dyslexic diagnosis.

In Cher’s version of the story, the principal called her to talk about Chas’ emotional problems and bad grades. Cher was shocked because Chas was always “level headed and responsible.” A teacher took Cher aside and told her to get Chas tested for a learning disability and they discovered Chas had dyslexia. Cher then suddenly understood her own learning disability.

And that’s the end of Sonny & Cher in the 1970s in both of their memoirs. Neither of them mention the Mike Douglas Show reunion they did in 1979, but there are two more public reunions ahead: Cher at the opening of Sonny’s La Cienega Italian restaurant Bono and their iconic reunion on Late Night with David Letterman in the fall of 1987. Sonny will still be with Susie Coelho when his restaurant opens but that relationship will end and he will meet 22-year-old college student and restaurant customer Mary Whitaker there. Those two had a 26-year age difference but can you remember anybody ever talking about that? No. Because they didn’t.

I forgot how much Sonny villainizes himself, unintentionally, in his book. Cher is the “killer” and he is the perpetual victim, taking very little responsibility for what he does. But, it all kind of came to roost for him anyway, as it often does. If he had been fun to work with (and if you read Murray Langston’s testimony, maybe only Cher thought he was fun to work with) then he would have continued to work in Hollywood, despite his divorce from Cher. Cher said extensive CBS audience research showed the public liked him. I don’t think it was evident that Cher’s comments to the press were the biggest issue for Sonny and his show-business career. Two record labels requested he stop producing Cher and he didn’t go on to become a TV or movie mogul despite all those meetings. By Sonny’s own admission, Cher wasn’t involved with any of that so how could she have ruined it?

That said, Sonny did a lot of brilliant things for Sonny & Cher and he did turn a raw, anxiety-ridden teenager into a glamourous superstar with an iconic career trajectory. And that’s not chump change either.

This level of detailed Sonny & Cher obsessing was immensely pleasurable. My little 7-yeard old self can die happy now.

Cher Dollphoria

So as a consequence of moving and downsizing my parents in January, I inherited my mother’s New Mexico Christmas tree resplendent with southwestern ornaments. As a consequence of this I had to clean out some space in my garage (and downsize a few things myself) which led me to the project of cataloging all the outfits for my Cher (Doll) Christmas tree, particularly so that I wouldn’t buy an outfit twice in the future by accident (which I already did with Stepping Out).

So while I was making a handwritten list of outfits in the box, I decided to go ahead and make an Excel spreadsheet organizing them, and add outfits I didn’t have, discover which ones were legit. At the same time, I came across an outfit called Liberty Belle (what looked like a very lovely 1977 bicentennial Colonial American costume) from a series called the Boutique Collection. I had no idea really what that was even though I’ve seen it before in passing on eBay.

Soon, I fell into a two-week rabbit hole learning copious amounts of information about the Cher doll outfits. There was the aforementioned Boutique Collection and also the Designer Collections (in two box colors), a Montgomery Ward collection, blue boxes, purple boxes, green boxes, black boxes, orange boxes, pink boxes. And  WTF!?

I had questions, too. But nobody on Facebook, where Cher doll fans seemed to live, seemed to still be on Facebook anymore so my questions hit dead ends there. Luckily, the Cher doll outfit bible, Sandra Bryan’s book Cher Doll & Her Celebrity Friendsdid help fill in some of the gaps.

The Dolls

Dolls on Cher Scholar: I’ve added a few new pictures and some links to fan experiences with Cher dolls, including a very funny video of every appearance the Cher doll made on Will and Grace (including the real Cher’s first appearance on the show and I think that’s makeup artist Kevin Aucoin sitting in Cher’s book booth).

The Outfits

The Doll’s Closet: This section has exploded! What sorry little cursory efforts I had made before!

There are new separate pages for the blue, green, purple, black and white box collections, images from the front and back of all those outfit boxes, ads for the series, better images of the iconic foldout brochure and I’ve added information about the accessory toys related to the outfits.

I also discovered some egregious information about how the outfits and toys were recycled after Cher lost cultural stock in the late 1970s (shocking!) and there’s an expanded section with links and better pictures about those outfits that have Big-Cher counterparts from her television shows.

I also found a video of a fan playing with outfits and Cher’s dressing room playset.

Other Cher Toys

Toys on Cher Scholar: It was time to clean up this page, to get better images for toys and see if new toys have shown up online. I’ve collected some early prototype images from Mego sales catalogs.

I also found this video of a real hairdresser playing with Cher Makeup Center.

New Paper Dolls!

While I was doing all that, I found out there’s a new Cher paper doll book coming out, Style Icons: Cher: A dress-up paper doll book by Elizabeth Weitzman and illustrations by UK artist Helen Green.

It’s about time we get a paper doll book for Cher. Growing up, my mother loved to tell me she didn’t have many real dolls as a kid and she loved styling her paper dolls. She was very disappointed when I didn’t like paper dolls as well (at all) and preferred my 3-dimensional Barbies. (Trying to make-believe paper-doll sex was very unsatisfying.)

The book’s summary calls Cher’s outfits “dazzling, fearless fashion…unapologetic glamour and trailblazing style” which includes “Mackie showstoppers of the 1970s….wild, punk inspired MTV moments…red-carpet reinventions…looks that pushed boundaries and redefined state and red carpet fashion.”

All that with only “ten of her most unforgettable looks,” 48 pages.

Release date: March 31, 1926

 

Internet Cher Things (All the Things)

The big news from the last week was Cher’s appearance on 30 August 2025 to help her friend Cyndi Lauper finish out her farewell tour at the Hollywood Bowl. Unbeknownst to me, Lauper’s closing song for this tour, “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun,” was paired with a set inspired by one of her favorite artists (and mine), Yayoi Kusama.

And not in a million years would I have been able to even drum up a fantasy of a Cher/Kusama mashup. But there it was. And the news went nuts. A sampling:

Oh and Joni Mitchell was also there (!) and SZA, John Legend, Trombone Shorty and Jake Wesley Rogers.

Clips are going up and being taken down as we speak. Apparently the show is being turned into a TV special so stay tuned on that. Fans who were there say Cher said “I’ll see you soon” which they took to mean a new tour. But it could mean anything.

Anyway, I thought it would be a good time to do a news rollup of articles (old and current) I’ve come across over the last few years that have been stuck languishing in my phone’s browser tabs. I had over 200 tabs open as a kind of to-be-read-later list.  Now that I’ve culled out all the Cher articles and dead links (pages and even whole websites now gone), I’m down to 124.

Sigh. I categorized them.

Movies

Let’s start with this young YouTube film aficionado who does video reviews, in Cher’s case her whole oeuvre. Nora! has watched every Cher movie and talked about the experience, all of which is interesting. I mean just hearing how young Cher fans see Cher movies differently than we did in the theater. Also, Nora has interesting thoughts about even movies we don’t enjoy, like Faithful. Spoiler alert: she liked it. I equate this to my thoughts about the movie Suspect. Sometimes there’s a fan out there who sees something nobody else does.

Nora astutely notices (and why haven’t we?) how Good Times is basically Sonny’s movie with Cher appearing only as a minor character. (To answer her befuddlement about this: it’s because he pretty much wrote the thing.) Nora calls out Chastity for having a “nothing story” and “no real plot,” that it’s just basically “Cher walking around and pontificating” which pretty much sums up that movie. But she gives those films redeeming points for Cher fashion.

Nora comments on what an uphill climb it must have been for a pop icon to become a serious actress because “society doesn’t let women be complex and multi-faceted.” Truth.

She finds a “weird looming element of racism that is never explained” in Silkwood. I completely missed this (and can’t even locate it in memory) and so I will watch it again to see what I can see. She calls out Silkwood’s “extreme de-glamming effort” on Cher. She focuses on “the emotional stuff” in Cher’s performances and quotes the L.A. Times in noting Cher’s ability to reveal depths underneath. This is helpful for me when trying to figure out how to write about Cher in her movies, not being a film critic and all.

It’s interesting to see how a younger person scoffs at the whole Cher, Sarandon, Pfeiffer love-lines plot in The Witches of Eastwick (“how three queens fall for Nicholson”) . As Gen-X kids we did not do this. We remembered Jack Nicholson as a sexy younger man and I guess we just started to suspend belief as he aged. Huh. Likewise, the character played by Dennis Quaid in Suspect annoyed her in ways that were novel to me. His audacity. We focused on the improbable illegality of his behavior, but not his audacity with Cher.

It’s great to hear Nora enthuse about Cher’s “career-defining role” in Moonstruck and the balance she struck between comedy and emotion. She calls Cher’s ability to continue with parts after the age of 40 in the 1980s an “astonishing accomplishment.” She expresses surprise at the good reviews of Mermaids because it “seems like the kind of movie male critics love to hate on.” This I think speaks more to the increasingly misogynist manosphere Nora grew up around as opposed to male critics writing in the early 1990s. Asshole Male wasn’t such an institutionalized thing back then. (As Nora says earlier, “Lord, give me strength.”) She rightly notes the shifts in roles Cher gets after Mermaids, how Cher begins to play her own persona. And Nora is right to call the plot of Tea with Mussolini meandering but as a kind of memoir, maybe that was unavoidable. She ends the video in talking about Cher’s unique sense of agency in show business.

Nora also did some great research on Cher’s press at the time of her movie releases and I tracked down some of the articles she sourced and quotes from:

  1. Let the Oscar Sweepstakes Begin! Our Fearless Forecasters Predict Who Will Will, Say Who Really Should (Washington Post, 9 April 1988) – I’ve always said Cher is not as popular in Los Angeles (her hometown) as she is in New York. I take that knowledge just from having lived in both places and attended multiple Cher concerts in both places at different venues (including the Broadway musical). The difference in enthusiasm is palpable, my favorite NYC overheard quote being “That Cher! I just love her!” L.A. is, ironically, too snobby for Cher. This article explains, for one, how the best movies rarely win Oscars. It’s a great overview of how the Oscars really work behind the scenes. It also articulates why Cher always gets snubbed by L.A. (and double the irony, she didn’t this particular year): “But, again, the overwhelming grass-roots response to “Moonstruck” — and Cher’s own fairly heavy media barrage — has all but eclipsed the early positive feeling for Hunter. Also, with “The Witches of Eastwick,” “Suspect” and “Moonstruck,” this is thought to be Cher’s year — especially since she was snubbed in 1985 (remember the Spider Woman dress?), when she was left off the list for Mask. Speaking of that dress, the only possible fly in the ointment here is that Hollywood is not really crazy about Cher. Yes, they think she has talent (finally). Yes, they respect her drive and determination to break through as an actress. But the sentiment is that she is too independent, too outspoken, too, well, tacky. They’d much rather give the award to Meryl Streep or Glenn Close, because even if they’re playing bums or psychos, those perpetual Oscar-baiters still have class, taste and legitimate acting credentials — all the things that appeal to Oscar’s sense of snobbery. And all things that Cher gloriously lacks.” And all which seems very rock and roll to me but oh wait…she’s usually snubbed there too.
  2. The Cher Conundrum: The Oscar Winner/Pop Diva/Exercise Goddess Talks About Acting, Relationships, Being Fortysomething and Other Serious Stuff” (Los Angeles Times, 3 November 1991) – This is a great article to follow the preceding because it further underscores how Cher is treated in L.A. by reporters who are just not that impressed. This is a particularly tough interview that pushes back on almost everything Cher says particularly about why she isn’t making more movies, and the conclusion of the piece seems to be that it’s due to a perfect storm between parts Cher turned down, difficulty with a few directors (Mask, Suspect and Mermaids), the infomercials (which historically have taken the most heat on this issue), and the fact that Cher just didn’t love the process of making movies. The interview then gets into comments about difficulties Cher was having with her mother (Georgia situations which occasionally used to show up in interviews but surprisingly were all but missing from the memoir last year). The article also misspells the name Sonny. Oy.
  3. “Cher: ‘Women have always been sex objects and always will be’” (The Guardian, 7 November 2013) – I struggled on whether to put this in movies or music because it talks about the Closer to the Truth album and the legacy of “Believe” but also about the movie Burlesque. And it even occurred to me to consider what she was wearing for the interview: sweats or jeans (movie interview) or leather jacket, fishnets, tiny skirt and biker boots (music interview). But that felt reductive. And the comments about Burlesque were what Nora was referring to in her review.
    More movie articles from my phone:
  4. 10 Powerful Movie Quotes That Deserve More Recognition” (Screen Rant, 17 August 2025) – and the quote discussed is “Everything Is Temporary. That Don’t Excuse Nothin’.”
  5. The best singers turned actors of all time” (The Week, date unknown) – The article doesn’t really say why. Just that these people have skills in both areas. And that this is rare.
  6. Cher rejected Eric Roth’s biopic script” (Film Stories, 1 March 2024) – More news than scholarship but hey, it was hanging out in my phone. All I will add is that there are music stars and there are film stars and then there are films about music and film stars.
  7. 7 Things You Didn’t Know About ‘Mask,’ Cher’s 1985 Breakthrough Film” (Remind, The Home of Nostalgia, 8 March 2025) – and yeah there were some things in the article I did not know.
  8. Guardian writers on their ultimate feelgood movies” (The Guardian, 22 July 2025) – In a list that begins with Big Night, Rushmore and Amélie, I assumed Cher’s title would be Moonstruck would be the listed movie and was painfully wrong on that assumption. Here’s the link to the article’s full review of Burlesque by Guy Lodge where he agrees was a “less-than-seminal 2010 musical…a film with precisely zero complexities to unparcel, that exerts a strangely forceful hold on me just the same.” Also of note is the inclusion in this list of The Towering Inferno, which sticks in my mind because in Sonny’s book he talks about taking Raquel Welch to that movie on a date (after they met at a Christmas party hosted by Cher) and that they both agreed to leave early because they thought it was a terrible movie.
  9. While I was putting this together, I found another good one: “Cher movies: 15 greatest films ranked worst to best” (Gold Derby, 17 May 2025) – they get the top four right.

Music

  1. Dark Lady by Cher Dollmation (2022) – very cool dollcreation.
  2. Texas judge blocks Ten Commandments in public schools with epic ruling that quotes Sonny & Cher, Kurt Vonnegut and Billy Graham” (The Independent, 20 August 2025) – Wow.
  3. Top 10 Sonny & Cher Songs” (Classic Rock History, 2020) – top 4 are good. “It’s the Little Things” should be higher. A few factual errors.
  4. Top 10 Cher Songs of All Time” (Classic Rock History, 2025) – Odd list. I don’t even think #10 is Cher’s best Diane Warren Cher song (the subject matter was already handled better by Elvis Costello, for one). “Take Me Home” at the top but no “Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves” or “Bang Bang”? Tsk tsk.
  5. Cher’s 30 Greatest Songs–Ranked!” (The Guardian, 18 October 2018) – a good interesting list that goes through all the years and all the things and puts “Gypsies” up on top.
  6. Cher’s 10 greatest songs ever, ranked” (Smooth Radio, 20 May  2025) – while I was compiling this list I found another song list.
  7. The 150 Greatest Albums Made by Women, Shocking Omissions: The Resilient Reinvention of ‘Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves” (NPR, 20 September 2017) – the album “was written to showcase and cultivate her signature contralto and the title track became her first No. 1 hit on Billboard Hot 100” (as a solo artist). “It even scored her a Grammy nomination for Best Pop Vocal Performance” (losing to Carol King’s Tapestry). The song “presented a darker, more powerful Cher, whose strength lies in her embodiment of the character.” Even Cher’s dislike of the song does not deter this writer (Désiré Moses), who said, “that’s exactly the sentiment that makes Cher, well, Cher.” Right! We’re under no obligation to agree.
  8. It Has Stood the Test of Time: 1971, The Greatest Year in Music” (The Guardian, 22 May 2021) – Cher’s album or song is not in this article but it’s a good one to read after #7 above because it was one of those unforgettable songs of 1971.
  9. In Praise of Cher, the Self-Proclaimed Betty White of Rock and Roll” (Salon, 29 May 2021) – This one is by Annie Zaleski, the same rock journalist who did the write up for Cher’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee program essay and this year’s picture bio, I Got You Babe, A Celebration of Cher (which I still need to blog about). Great writing as always, “Although Cher is often viewed through the lens of a comeback narrative — among other things, she had to extricate herself from a bad business relationship with her late ex-husband, Sonny Bono, as well as climb back from solo career nadirs — this has softened into her being positioned as a beacon of resiliency.”
  10. The Number Ones: Cher’s ‘Believe’” (Sterogum, 4 July 2022) – “Less than a minute into her improbable comeback smash, Cher shatters. The moment happens when she sings the line ‘I can’t break through.’ On the word “can’t,” Cher’s voice atomizes, breaking into a billion tiny little shards, before coming back together. She sounds like a glitching-out robot, or like a kid singing into a fan. All throughout ‘Believe,’ her first #1 hit in a quarter-century, it keeps happening. Cher’s voice falls to pieces, and then it resolves.”
  11. Cher’s secret pop history: The massive hits pop icon sang backing vocals on” (Gold Radio, 13 August 2025)
  12. Cher Sells Range of Music Assets to Irving Azoff’s Iconic Artists Group” (Music Business Worldwide. 2 August 2023) – “Cher is the fifth-ranked female artist with the most Billboard US Hot 100 charted singles….Cher is one of the world’s best-selling music artists. Launching her career in the 1960s as part of Sonny & Cher, the superstar made unprecedented strides in what had long been a male-dominated industry. Cher has sold more than 100 million records. Her three-year 325-show world Farewell Tour from 2003 to 2005 played to more than three million fans and became the most successful tour ever by any female artist.”
  13. Cher On Making Her First Holiday Record” (Billboard, 6 October 2023)
  14. Cher Talks New Christmas Album” (People, 11 October 2023)
  15. Cher, 77, on her six-decade career: ‘I’m some sort of freak’” (New York Post, 20 October 2023) – NYC loves Cher. “…when it comes to taking on Mariah Carey for Christmas queendom: ‘I’m not gonna take over that spot,’ she said. ‘I’m kind of out of my league there.'”
  16. Cher’s Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Performance Interrupted” (Entertainment Weekly, 23 November 2023)
  17. Cher Scores No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart in Seventh Decade” (Billboard, 30 November 2023) – This article is in my phone because I sent it to my brother last week after my sister-in-law sent me a Cher drawing from the Canfield Ohio Fair and I asked what the art category was and my brother said “has-beens.”
  18. Cher’s Christmas Album Tops the Charts” (NPR, 4 December 2023)
  19. Cher is Heading to the Metaverse with ‘Christmas’ Roblox Event” (Billboard, 8 December 2023)
  20. 25 Years Ago, Cher Released a Song That Would Change the Sound of Pop Music” (NPR, 19 October 2023)
  21. Should Cher Have Cancelled Her own ‘Offensive’ Song?” (The Telegraph, 5 September 2024)
  22. Rock Hall Inductee Exhibit: From Cher’s glamour to Frampton’s guitar” (Axios Cleveland, 11 October 2024)
  23. Cher facts: Songs, age, films, husbands and children of the Goddess of Pop” (Gold Radio, 23 October 2024)
  24. Miley Cyrus’ Bright, Effervescent Cover of Cher’s “Believe” Is Vocal Nirvana” (NBC, 21 October 2024)
  25. Decades Before Kellyoke, Cher Covered a Dazzling Range of Songs on Her Weekly Show” (Billboard, 30 September 2024)
  26. Cher Returns Half Of Her Career Hits To The Same Billboard Chart” (Forbes, 27 November 2024)
  27. The One Song Cher Couldn’t Live Without” (Far Out, 18 January 2025)
  28. I’m Not a Cher Fan:  why Cher desperately wanted to be like the Eagles” (Far Out, 9 February 2025)
  29. My own Cher interview with Robrt Pela on KJZZ (NPR Phoenix) – of course I kept this in my phone.

Concerts & Stage

  1. Michael Keaton’s disastrous stint as Cher’s opening act: ‘It was death‘” (Far Out, 10 November 2024) – this was interesting.
  2. Cher and share alike: three actors star as the singer in musical that turns back time” (The Guardian, 20 April 2022) – review of the UK musical…still in my phone. There’s an interesting video in the article about the creative team for the show.

Style and Beauty

  1. Cher at Home: The Goddess of Pop’s Domestic Life in 22 Photos” (Architectural Digest, 15 August 2025) – I had this bookmarked twice. The first version of the article was only 15 photos apparently.
  2. Inside Cher’s Stunning Malibu Mansion” (Show Biz Cheat Sheet, 5 January 2022) – “Every day when I wake up and look out my bedroom window I’m never not amazed.”
  3. Sonny & Cher’s former home rentable from Airbnb for allegedly around $600 a night.
  4. Cher’s 31 Most Iconic Looks of the ’70s, From Dazzling Dresses to Bold Bodysuits” (InStyle, 26 June 2025) – There’s a 1960s outfit in the list and at least one from the 1980s. Sigh.
  5. Cher’s 10 Best Looks of All Time, Hand-Picked by Bob Mackie” (Variety, 20 May 2021) – Too bad we didn’t see that unicorn outfit. And interesting he puts in the duct tape TBT-fit in his list considering…
  6. Designer Bob Mackie Didn’t Want Anyone to Know He ‘Had Anything to Do’ With Cher’s Iconic Bodysuit” (US Weekly, 26 January 2025)
  7. Cher and Bob Mackie on Over 60 Years of Iconic Looks” (Harper’s Bazaar, 11 October 2024) –  “For the past six decades, Cher has been living in our collective minds rent-free.”
  8. Turn Back Time Like Cher with Her 5 Beauty Secrets” (Women’s Health, 26 June 2021) – There’s a sign-in wall. I never did see the five secrets.
  9. Cher’s Take on The French Manicure Features a Glitzy Detail” (Marie Claire, 25 October 2023)
  10. 77-Year-Old Cher Has Eaten Like a Blue Zoner for 30 Years. Is That Her Secret?” (VegNews, 26 September 2023)
  11. Bryan Adams photographs Cher, Grimes and Iggy Pop for Pirelli calendar” (The Guardian, 5 August 2021) – Remember that happened??
  12. Cher is Inducted Into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Leather Platforms at the 2024 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony” (Yahoo! Entertainment, 19 October 2024) – There were plenty of seen-in-that-outfit news stories in the last few years, but this is the only one I left in my phone.
  13. Cara Delevingne, Cher and Jodie Turner-Smith Celebrate Burberry Flagship Reopening” (Variety, 23 October 2024)

Food

  1. Cher’s Mom’s Cheesecake Is Impressively Easy” (Parade, 2 December 2023) – but this review links to a non-existent Allrecipes page. Even allrecipe’s own article about it has vanished. But another site has archived it so…. I’ll be blogging about this later after I make it for the Cher food page. Another mention I just found, “The Heartwarming Story Behind Cher’s Favorite Cheesecake Recipe” (Mashed, 26 November 2023)

News & Tabloid 

  1. Cher Mourns Ex Husband Gregg Allman” (Rolling Stone. 27 May 2017) – Yup. still open in my phone.
  2. Queen Elizabeth Death: Cher Appears to Refer to the Queen as a Cow” (All over the press, 9 September 2022) – Well, they are little emojis and hard to see clearly for the elderly. I’m sure there is someone in the colonial world who was calling the Queen a cow; it just wasn’t Cher. Cher’s rebuttal.
  3. Cher Posts Thirsty New Pic of New 30-year-old Boyfriend and…whoa” (Queerty, 24 November 2022)
  4. Cher Relists Iconic Malibu Mansion with a $10 Million Price Cut for $75 Million” (People, 4 April 2023), A.D. version (21 March 2023) – Why does this house keep going on and off the market?
  5. Cher Opens Up About Her New Cherlato Business: ‘It Was A Labor Of Love’ “- Remember Cherlato, the new perfume(s), Sanctuary, Aquasentials? You gotta take advantage of these Cher ventures when they come up because they disappear fast. (I have a few regrets.)
  6. Cher “Only” Averaged $6 Million Per Year Throughout Her Career, But It All Adds Up” (The Things, 24 September 2023) – Only? wtf.
  7. Celebrities Partying in the ’70s: Photos” (Esquire, 10 January 2023) – I’m sorry, any list of 1970s debauchery that excludes a photo of Margaux Hemingway (particularly at Studio 54) just isn’t worth its margarita salt. This exact photo below was indelibly etched into my childhood imagination forever as illustrating precisely what 1970s debauchery was…the drink between the legs, the facial expression…
    Whenever I try to pose debauchery, as unconvincing as it is (and this is one of my favorite Mary Tyler Moore Show quotes that I can relate to: “I might not have been around, but I’ve been nearby“), this is the pose I attempt.
  8. Cher hired men to kidnap troubled son Elijah Blue Allman from NY hotel as he tried to save marriage” (New York Post, 26 September 2023) – Only the family knows about all the things in this story but Cher being vindicated this summer is not so happy news.
  9. Cher’s son Elijah Blue Allman responds to conservatorship filing: ‘I am well, and able’” (NBC Los Angeles, 29 December 2023)
  10. See Photos of Cher with Her Sons Chaz Bono and Elijah Blue Allman Through the Years” (People, 28 December 2023) – Some sites tried to focus on the positive aspects in their capitalizing on that story.
  11. Cher Says She’s Living ‘in the Moment’ with Boyfriend: ‘It’s Never Too Late’ to Find Love” (People, 11 October 2023)
  12. While looking for the link above, I found this one: “Cher Says Younger Boyfriend Alexander ‘A.E.’ Edwards Doesn’t Get ‘Most of My References’” (People, 24 October 2023)
  13. Cher, Who Turns 78 Today, Says She’ll Celebrate By “Putting My Pillow Over My Head and Screaming”” (Marie Claire, 20 May 2024)
  14. Kevin Costner Sits Next to Cher at SNL50 After His Epic Reaction to Her Recent Performance at Radio City Music Hall” (People, 16 February 2025) – Kevin Costner sits next to Cher…and it’s news.

Two takeaways here. One, there are many more news stories out there than any one mere Cher scholar could keep up with.

And two, the categories of this list are a good study itself in demarking the areas of Cher’s cultural influence (in real time surfing the Internet). And the spread of articles across each category is telling in where the most interest seems to rest.

Although I would correct that in saying the articles in the movie section are the most laudatory, so even though that category is small in number the section is still pretty packed with cultural value.

The John Wilson Animations

So my friend Sherry texted me a Cher question a week or so ago. Sherry is a writer and editor for tech and finance research firms in the New York City area. She is also one of the writers I met at Sarah Lawrence back in the 1990s and she published a great book of poetry, The Palace of Ashes and is also an enthusiast of the great American Southwest landscapes and Indian Nation jewelry and I’ve gotten to know her better during her yearly trips out to that area.

Anyway, her question led me down a rabbit hole (hours and hours of tunnels in fact). So here’s here question:

“I can remember watching at least two animated cartoon music videos on network TV shows when I was a kid. One was for “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown,” the other for “Sweet Gypsy Rose.” The question is did I see them both on the Sonny & Cher Show? Or just one and the other on the Tony Orlando & Dawn show? Our family watched both. Since music videos on TV weren’t a thing, these were memorable. And I was a kid, so CARTOONS!”

So the “Sweet Gypsy Rose” (a Tony Orlando and Dawn hit) part was extremely frustrating research because I could clearly remember seeing the Wilson animation as sung  by Sonny’s solo but the clip was nowhere to be found by itself on YouTube, nor could I find it in any online episode guides or even my own episode guides! Finally I found the clip on IMDB.com with a credit to John Wilson and Sonny so I knew it existed.

It felt like, once again, the Internet was gaslighting me.

I finally found the video buried in a John Wilson compilation (more on that below). But the mystery is still outstanding, which Comedy Hour show did this video appear on?

In any case, during this deep dive into John Wilson cartoons. I learned a few things:

  1. In some cases, like for Joni Mitchell’s “Big Yellow Taxi” and Coven’s “One Tin Soldier,” the original animation were created for the original artist and Sonny and Cher simply repurposed them or sang over them for their first variety show.
  2. British artist John Wilson wasn’t always the animator for these videos but sometimes he was. But he was always the brand of the animations (which also sometimes fell under the umbrella of his company Fine Arts Films). Sometimes he was just the director and/or producer. And he’s sometimes billed as John David Wilson. His ex-wife Angele is sometimes credited as ink and painter or colorist on early videos.
  3. There were at least 10 “John Wilson” animations that appeared on The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, Sonny and Cher’s first variety series. Then there is the mystery “Sweet Gypsy Rose” cartoon sung by Sonny, which total 11 Wilson cartoons associated with them.
  4. And finally, John Wilson was involved in many other famous animations including both Disney’s Peter Pan (1953) and The Lady and the Tramp (1955), the opening credits for the movie Grease (1978), the old Mr. Magoo cartoons (1953) and an animation for Bob Dylan’s 1983 song “You Gotta Serve Somebody” which is hard to find and see.

The first ten Comedy Hour animations are included on Cher Lunar’s The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour Animated Videos (Full Compilation)

  1. Joni Mitchell’s “Big Yellow Taxi” from episode #2 – animated by John Sparey from 1971.
  2. Coven’s “One Tin Soldier” from episode #7 – the title card is hard to read but it looks like animation done by Bill Carney or Parney.
  3. Melanie’s “Brand New Key” from episode #12– no credits.
  4. Sonny & Cher’s own “A Cowboy’s Work Is Never Done” from episode #23 (one of my favorite ones) – animation by Rudi Cataldi.

  5. Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory‘s “The Candy Man” from episode 24 – animation by Rudi Cataldi.
  6. Three Dog Night’s “Black and White” from episode #32 (this is my favorite one and a precursor to the Cloud Cult drawing video “When You Reach the End).”
  7. Randy Newman’s “Love Story” from episode #36 – no credits.
  8. Jim Croce’s “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown” from episode #44 – animated by Fred Madison.
  9. Stevie Wonder’s “Higher Ground” from episode #57– animated by Fred Madison (look for the little pre-MTV video image in there and the nod at the very end to the current political leadership the animation addresses).

  10. Cher’s own “Dark Lady” from episode #64 – no credits.

He also did the bumpers and opening credits for The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour 1971-1973 and 1974.

Another John Wilson compilation capture’s “Sweet Gypsy Rose,” a roll-up called John Wilson’s Mini-Musicals. The video can be seen at 21:12 (animation by Fred Madison). For a minute I thought maybe it was from The Sonny Comedy Review, Sonny’s short-lived solo 1974 show. But then the wife can be seen washing laundry with a box of “CHER” (a play on the detergent Cheer) and the wife scowls while doing dishes (clearly not happy about her return to domestic life) while the husband relaxes in a chair watching a television playing The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour. Wilson also famously animated those cartoon faces which also appear on the Comedy Hour set’s orange light globes.

This collection has many more animations, including the original Joni Mitchell and Coven versions of “Big Yellow Taxi” and “One Tin Soldier” at the beginning and also “Both Sides Now” by Mitchell (animated by Wilson and labeled as “a computer image film”) and songs by Helen Reddy (“Angie Baby”) animated by John Wilson, “Ray Davies/The Kinks “Demon Alcohol” (animated by Wilson and sung by W. Carpenter), “Reachin'” by Bob Moline (no animation credit, just “a film by John David Wilson, color by Angele Wilson” from 1971. There are also some other notable Wilson films in this reel, the animation to jazz artist Stan Kenton’s “Conga Valiente” by John Wilson and Tony Pabian and the 1956 animation to Igor Stravinsky’s “Petrushka” which was made by 10 animators, none of them being John Wilson.

And the videos often include the credits cards (see above).

Anyway, when I asked Sherry if I could discuss her question here,  she continued about the song “Sweet Gypsy Rose.”

“I am amazed I can remember something I saw when I was about 9 or 10 years old. The “Gypsy” one was deflating. Housewife runs away (we all would from the cartoon depiction of housework), gets glamourous in a seedy way admittedly, then gets yanked back to housework by husband and is supposed to look happy. That stuck with me. Male viewpoint song. I wish I could see it again to see if it was kind of subversive once she was home again. I would expect that from the S&C gender skirmishes.”

There’s yet another rollup called “John Wilson’s Animation Wonderland VHS.” These are all animated poems and short stories, including Ernest L. Thayer’s poem “Casey at the Bat” narrated by Paul Frees (1976). Many of them are children’s stories and folk tales and are without any credits (although some of the actors sound very familiar), like Alvin Tresselt’s “The Smallest Elephant in the World,” Peter Hughes’ “The Emperor’s Oblong Pancake” (narrated by Edward Everett Horton, whom I love in the classic movie Holiday), Jonathan Swift’s “Gulliver’s Travels” (narrated by Vincent Price), the American folk tale “Johnny Appleseed,” the Japanese folk tale “The Stone Cutter” (narrated by Swedish comedian Harry Stewart), “The Chocolate Princess” (author unknown, narrated by Bill Cosby, and I hate to say it but this seems like a very good story and its easy to pretend Bill Cosby isn’t reading it), the Norwegian folk tale “The Salty Sea” (“Why the Sea is Salty”), Greek mythology’s “King Midas,” Mary O’Neill’s “Hailstones and Halibut Bones,” the original story of “The Early Birds” (narrated by Jonathan Winters and voice actress Joan Gerber), Mark Twain’s “The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County,” Hans Christian Andersen’s “The Tinder Box,” the American legend “The Fish and the Burning Stones,” John Townsend Trowbridge’s “Darius Green and His Flying Machine,”  a historical retelling of “The Battle of Bunker Hill,” William Shakespeare’s “Jacque’s Speech” from the play As You Like It and “Two Songs” from “Love’s Labor Lost,” and Cyrano de Bergerac’s “A Voyage to the Moon.”

But back to Leroy Brown and Gypsy Rose, Sherry said,

“Thank you for allowing me back into my childhood. I must have seen those on repeat because they were both so familiar.”

I brought up the coded language in “Bad, Bad Leroy Brown” and Sherry astutely noted the glorious depictions of the pimp’s regalia and how this was “Blacksploitation in cartoon form.”

These animations were unforgettable to anyone who saw them as a kid in the 1970s, along with Schoolhouse Rock’s educational animations. They contain some of best examples of 1970s music shorts and undoubtedly influenced the plethora of videos to come in the 1980s, which then turned around to influence Cher’s own 80s and early 90s music videos in a crazy remediation circle.

Some obituaries for John Wilson from:

Memoir vs. Memoir Part 2: the 1960s

This is the second blog post where we compare Sonny and Cher’s respective memoirs, And the Beat Goes On and Cher, The Memoir (parts one out now). In Part 1 we looked at how the books were organized and how they each talked about family history and childhood.

Now we’ll look at their lives together in the 1960s. Fair warning, this is going to be looong. Often when I start a blog I think, should this be an official Cher Scholar page or a blog? For instance, this is too long for a blog post but it also doesn’t rise to the level of a permanent page.

Oh crap. It’s even longer now.

Let’s get starting. First, reading these books side-by-side really shows the unusual complexity of this relationship. The second read, I feel Sonny is not as cold and calculating as I remember (although he is often factually wrong and rationalizing). He does some mea-culpas, especially when he’s about to tell a story where he’s going to look bad or sexist. These two disagree on many more “facts” than I thought they would and not over things you’d assume (like fights) but over who enjoyed what and when things even happened, like big important things, like their legal wedding.

I had to remind myself Cher is remembering her life back from the age of 77 in 2024 and Sonny, with the help of a diary, was remembering back from the age of 56 in 1991. Some of the disagreements are solely between them. We’ll never know what the true answer is if there even was one (what they said to each other in private moments). Then there are the disagreements maybe colleagues or family could resolve. And then there are those discrepancies anyone could have easily be researched and verified (like the name on a record label). Those are the most mind-boggling disagreements.

But it’s fascinating to me that for the most part they tell the same stories, they both think the same stories are important and life-defining but maybe they each remember different details about it. Aside from that it is interesting to note which crucial stories each one leaves out of their timelines (Cher doesn’t tell the “Laugh At Me” story and Sonny doesn’t say a word yet about Carol Kaye’s famous bass line).

We have to remember these are two separate people living separate but intertwined lives. Sonny is not perfect (and is often unlikable in Cher’s book and Cher is often unlikable in Sonny’s tale) but neither of them ever rise to the level of a big, bad villain.

The pages  dealing with how Sonny and Cher met up through the end of the 1960s were pages 57 to 178 in Sonny’s paperback book and pages 124-240 in Cher’s hardback book.

The Meet Cute
Sonny describes their “meet cute” with those words, like it was a RomCom. I was shocked by this. I only just learned the term “meet cute” from Substack and here Sonny was using it back in 1991! And then Cher uses the very same term in her memoir. Where the hell have I been?

It was November of 1962 and Sonny says they met at Aldos, “an Italian restaurant.” Cher correctly identifies it as a coffee shop above a radio station. It was Cher, Red and Melissa as a group meeting Sonny.

Sonny describes Cher as “gorgeous” and Cher comments on Sonny’s “amazing smile,” his beautiful hands and that he was wearing a black mohair suit and a mustard shirt with a white collar and cuban boots. Sonny thinks Cher had “character” but was “unreadable.”

They both mention Cher’s comment about Cher admiring Sonny’s wearing “black on black” but in Sonny’s version, Cher says this at the coffee shop and in Cher’s version she tells this to Sonny later when they go dancing.

Cher remembers that they went to the Red Velvet Club right after meeting at the coffeeshop and that Sonny was more interested in Cher’s friend Melissa (who was actually gay they both tell us). But in Sonny’s version they all four went to Club 86 (a lesbian club) the next night and it was Melissa and Cher poking fun of the boys by taking them there.

Their Past Histories
Sonny says Cher had been working at See’s Candy Store. Cher correctly identifies his first pseudonym as Don Christy (the pseudonym he muffed in his own history).

Sonny’s Apartment
“It wasn’t long” (Cher), three weeks (Sonny) before they ran into each other again when Cher spotted Sonny moving in to his apartment at the “sprawling complex” (Sonny) at Franklin and Vine in Los Angles. They both tell a story about looking through the windows of their respective apartments and seeing each other. After hearing about Cher’s living situation woes, Sonny offers to let her move in with him. “No funny business” (according to Sonny) but Cher has Sonny saying, “I don’t find you particularly attractive.” Sonny doesn’t mention this. He insists that front the beginning he felt something for Cher. He says she was gorgeous, “flawless except for a big nose, which I thought gave her character, something perfect-looking women lack,” and that she was statuesque, coquettish, alluring, streetwise, had an “intoxicating aura,” magnetism and “incredible strength” and that he was “already deeply smitten.”(Lots of good adjectives there.)

Sonny talks about Cher’s chronic fears how she needed to have a TV on all night to sleep and how hard it was for him to plug the TV into the bedroom for her because there was no outlet. Cher mentions needing the TV on all night too and that she was full of phobias, one being that she was afraid of silence. Cher says their relationship was like brother and sister/father and daughter at first.

Cher tells the bathing-suit story, that Sonny’s face was “crestfallen” when he saw her shape and then says, “my kind of body wasn’t in style yet.”  “God, you’re skinny,” she remembers him saying. Sonny mentions nothing about this or the other women he was dating while Cher first lived with him.

They both tell the story that Cher lied about her age and said she was 18 and then 17 but was really 16.

Georgia
I think where the memoirs probably differ the most is in their depiction of Cher’s parents, John and Georgia.

I don’t know if Sonny was too hard on Georgia or if Cher glossed over a lot. Cher admits her mother once bought her new clothes and then returned them in a fit of anger and Sonny tells this story as one of the stories about how Georgia was a less than great mom. Sonny describes her as a “pretty party girl” who “measured success by men and cars” and was very competitive with Cher. Cher glossed over their periods of not-talking or Georgia not talking to Cher as things she just can’t remember.

Although allegedly Sonny and Georgia got along off and on (even after the divorce), Sonny does not have much nice to say about Georgia. And his comments are mostly in defense of Cher. It’s possible he was upset with Georgia again when he was writing his memoirs. But you also get the sense that Cher has left a bit of drama out of hers. By her own admission, she could go long periods without speaking to her mother and this was all really vague in her memoir.

Of Georgia Sonny says, “she defined the phrase ‘a real piece of work.’” He admits she was “striking” and “beautiful” and had the attitude of a star.

He pulls no punches: “Motherhood wasn’t high on Georgia’s list of priorities. She liked men, parties, fast cars, and fancy restaurants. She preferred the high life. That she had a daughter, Cher, who turned heads on her own was almost too much for her to handle. There was room for only one beautiful woman in her life—Georgia. That explains the volatility of her and Cher’s relationship. It explains why Cher was so rebellious and anxious to get out of her mom’s house that she dropped out of school after the tenth grade and set out on her own. It was a long time before I heard Cher say anything nice about her mother.”

Wow. Cher doesn’t really take it to the level of volatility.

Another thing completely different is that Sonny says Cher’s biological dad worked for them when they were on the road as road manager. I vaguely remember a story Cher told about her Dad working with them and then trying to sell pictures of himself with Cher and Chastity to the press to support his drug habit and this is how Cher became estranged from him yet again. Sonny says her father died with him and Cher died not talking. Cher says nothing about this. Her comments about John Sarkisian are not terrible but not particularly fatherly either. More bemused and annoyed. She might mention his death and those later-day circumstances in her next memoir, when he dies.

Early Love
Sonny says their relationship was all a tease for the first few months until a kiss on the couch occurred after a conversation about Cher’s lesbian friend, Melissa. Cher doesn’t mention this, but recounts a significant kiss with him after seeing the movie The Balcony. This was after their forced separation by Georgia. They both tell this story of Georgia trying to separate them. Cher says it wasn’t until she was whisked off to Arkansas that Sonny began to have feelings for her.

At first, they slept in twin beds. How Sonny could have been such a ladies man with twin beds, I’ll never understand. But anyway, Cher says she would get scared and was allowed to crawl in bed with Sonny but he would say, “Don’t bother me.” Sonny says he didn’t “make a move” until one night he got into her twin bed.

They both agree this early time was some of their fondest memories of the relationship. Sonny recounts it as “two lost kids found direction in each other” and says somewhat poetically, “I wanted to be the boy who walked the fence to impress the girl. And Cher believed I could do that.”

Cher tells stories of doing art projects with Sonny and acting like kids.

Sonny mentions that their relationship was not very physical or sexual, but he keeps getting Cher pregnant somehow. The both talk about the pain of three early miscarriages which began before they started recording together. Cher admits she “went into herself” after those miscarriages. Sonny says they was hard on him, too, and because they couldn’t talk through it, Cher being so withdrawn. They both wanted to have children together. The first miscarriage was particularly heartbreaking for them and scary. During a later miscarriage, Cher says she was out shopping with her friend Joey when problems started and that she had the miscarriage in their bathroom. Sonny was at a Mohamad Ali fight that night, Cher says, and she spent the next day in the hospital. Cher doesn’t mention a concert date in Minneapolis that Sonny was obligated to perform without her or, according to Sonny, the promoter would sue. Sonny tells the story and how horrible he felt about it. “Shitty” he says. Cher said each miscarriage was worse than the last and she dreaded talking to her friends about them, seeming to support Sonny’s theory that she withdraws when in pain.

They both talk about their non-legally-binding bathroom wedding. Cher says their rings were from a souvenir shop on Olivera Street. Sonny says they were from and Indian souvenir shop at Sunset and Vine.

Sonny describes Cher as often very withdrawn and elusive. He says she would go into a “black hole” for days. But also that she was smart instinctually, just lacked education, poise and confidence. He says her only job had been at the candy store. (He either forgets or doesn’t know about Robinson’s department store.) He says she didn’t become the independent, “who gives a damn” woman until after their divorce, after she continued to work on herself. But then Cher calls Sonny the most private person she’s ever known. “He hid so much of himself.” Cher says that after the very beginning, “he never asked much about me.” She feels he became less and less interested in her as a person and that she started to feel like a shadow. Sonny said Cher was “a tough read”, “impossible to read,” that there was a pattern of her not wanting to talk to him. He says Cher had “the grace, mystery and independence of an ally cat.”

They both agree Cher could dance. Cher says Sonny got jealous of the fact she was a better dancer and didn’t let her go out dancing anymore. Sonny says, “people were always paying compliments to Cher about her dancing.” Sonny admits he was insecure.

Cher remembers every house they lived in, the style and sometimes décor (and sometimes about Sonny’s decorating skills). Sonny mentions a few, but not each one.

Hero Worship
Cher admits she stared to hero worship Sonny but the feeling wasn’t mutual. Sonny says “there was no question that Cher had stars in her eyes, [about Sonny] but for the life of me, I didn’t know what she had in her head.”

Christy Bono
Cher contends that Sonny was a great Dad with Christy and that she visited once in a while and they would all hang out together. Sonny laments often in his book that he was not a good Dad with Christy and that he didn’t give her enough of his time. He says this over and over again.

Specialty Records
They both tell a story or two about Little Richard and the day Sonny brought home the Cadillac. They both mention the crappy Chevy Manza Sonny was driving. Sonny talks about creating the song “Needles and Pins” with Jack Nitzsche and having Jackie DeShannon and The Searchers record it.

Working With Phil Spector
They both have a “working with Phil Spector” section. Cher says he wasn’t “unstable yet” but alternatively moody and funny. “You had to read the room,” Cher says and that if he was mad he would act like he didn’t know you. Sonny confirms this (in his story about the end of their working relationship). Cher says she could give as well as she got with Phil Spector and that this could irritate Sonny (who was the only one of them who was officially employed there). Cher claims Spector told Sonny that she “was funny and showed spirit.” In Sonny’s version, Spector and Cher had “no chemistry” and that Spector was jealous of Sonny’s relationship with Cher.

Sonny starts his Spector session by saying he wanted Spector to produce Cher. “I was convinced that this skinny teenage girl with bad skin, a big nose and an unusually deep voice was star material.” Is he being ironic? No, I think he’s serious. But what happened to “gorgeous”? Sonny spent more time with Spector than Cher did.  Whenever Spector was lonely, it seems he would call Sonny to hang with him in silence. And Sonny alludes to “dark and troubled thoughts,” a “troubled mind,” “odd behavior” and “an explosive temper.”

Sonny says Phil Spector called him his “funk.” Cher says Spector never considered Sonny much of a singer and called “Cher, Sonny, Gracia, Fanita and Darlene” collectively his “funk element.” Who is right here? Maybe Darlene Love could weigh in on this one. I have a feeling I know what she’s gonna say.

Speaking of which, Sonny and Cher both agree that the only person Phil Spector took crap from was Darlene Love, who Sonny says had “the balls of a buffalo.” But only Sonny talks about how racist Phil Spector was to his own wife Ronnie Spector, the reported separate toilets and dinnerware he made her use at home and how he locked her in her bedroom for days. Sonny says in public he lavished her with attention but not in private.

They both tell the same story about leaving for a hamburger one day without Spector’s permission but in Cher’s story Sonny wasn’t with them and was just as angry when they returned. In Sonny’s version, he took the girls and it was Spector who was furious.

Sonny mentions the Wrecking Crew but not by that name (the documentary which coined the term hadn’t come out for decades yet) but Cher calls them that.

They both talk about recording “You’ve Lost that Loving Feeling” (Cher calls it a “once in a lifetime song.” and the time Leon Russell came in drunk and belligerent which was a showstopper at the time because he was normally so quiet and shy.

Early Sonny & Cher
They both agree that Cher was terrified to sing alone. Sonny says she would cry if asked to do a solo and would wilt (his word) when asked to sing. Cher doesn’t dispute this. She says her voice would get locked up from stage fright.

The both tell the story of Sonny finding Sonny’s cheap, broken piano. Cher has him finding it at a pawnshop for $85 and “I still have that ugly thing.” Sonny talks about a $100 pawnshop diamond ring he found for Cher but not a piano at a pawnshop. Sonny says the $50 piano came from a used furniture store. But then Sonny says it was the “85-dollar piano” when he introduces the song “I Got You Babe” on both of their Live albums.

One: “7 years ago they had three things: an $85 dollar piano, a philosophy and each other.”

Two: This is in 1973 and by this time they are separated but not divorced. They are still working on the TV variety show together and are publicly together but they are living in separate wings of The Big House. In this second intro, it’s “ten years ago” and now they had a brass bed Sonny mentions (from a junk store or a drug store). Cher talks about this bed in her memoir.  It was from an A-frame house they rented on Sycamore Trail behind the Hollywood Bowl. The shower leaked and the rug “was kind of hatchet,” Cher says. The bed was from a secondhand store and they thought at first it was an iron bed. But it was just filthy and when they started cleaning it together Sonny said, “Cher, I think this is brass!”

“Excited, we ran out and bought about twenty boxes of steel wool Brillo pads, scrubbing it all night long until it was gleaming. That damn bed was brass and it was beautiful.” Sonny probably invokes it here to remind Cher of the talismanic power of this lucky object  and the excitement of their early romance.

Cher says Phil Spector didn’t think Cher had a commercial voice. She said Sonny liked the movie Cleopatra and decided on their first moniker should be Caesar and Cleo. Sonny agrees with this story. Cher said she cut his hair into that Caesar style. She said Sonny learned from Spector that b-sides should be instrumental numbers with silly titles so as not to detract from the a-side. And that Sonny inserted the “corny dialogue” in their version of “Love Is Strange.” The b-side was “String Fever” by S. Christy. Arranged by Jack Nietzsche. Sonny talks about recording “The Letter” (which Sonny says “bombed…our families didn’t even buy it”) and “Love is Strange” with Harold Battiste arranging. This was late 1963, Sonny says ashe talks about the “bare-bones” record making he learned from Spector. They both talk a bit about Sonny’s friendship with Jack Nietzsche.

Cher talks about their early gigs on the “DJ circuit” at rolling rinks and bowling alleys looking like Dick and Dee Dee or April and Nino. Very clean cut. Sonny is more specific: their first gig was a roller rink; their second was a bowling alley; there was no third gig.

They both agree Sonny wasn’t a genius songwriter but Sonny wrings his hands over this more than Cher does. Sonny goes into his feelings of imposter syndrome, mostly because he was surrounded by geniuses like Jack Nietzsche, Leon Russell, Brian Wilson and Phil Spector. Plus Bob Dylan and the Beatles were everywhere. In Cher’s memoir she talks about how even so, Sonny could make it happen and that was one of his superpowers in a way. Sonny says he had heard once that Cher said his songs “sound like shit until they’re unraveled” and that he often had trouble communicating his songs to Cher and others.

Cher said her early stage fright was torture. They both talk about her locked voice and resistance to walking on stage.

Sonny is definitely smarting from Cher’s later charge in portraying him as a “controlling Svengali.” In Cher’s defense, I actually think that part comes later in their relationship. Sonny feels Cher always portrays herself as the victim. By the way, Cher took great pains not to do this in her memoir. And Sonny talks about all the pressure he was under to launch their careers, although he admits Cher never complained about anything. He could just sense it, she had big goals. They both agree Cher was happy to let Sonny “chart their course.” And Cher looks back and can sympathize with his moods and stress levels during times they were struggling. They both agree they felt like it was “the two of them against the world.”

They both talk about recording “Ringo, I Love You.” (Cher’s first solo but not her first recording as I had always assumed.) They both agree Phil Spector loved the Beatles. At least Cher gets her pseudonym right: Bonnie Jo Mason. Sonny misremember it as Bobbie Joe Mason.” (Yesh, Sonny. Another thing you can look up!) Cher says they recorded it at Gold Star Studio B, “the size of my car.” Cher says she cringes at the early records and how nasal she sounded. She blamed teenage allergies. She talks about an album of covers they made for Liberty Records. “Nothing came of that.” (Where is it??) Sonny doesn’t mention any of this.

Cher talks about how ‘devastated’ they were when the first records went nowhere. How it made Cher stop singing around the house and then Sonny stopped working with Phil Spector. Later she says Sonny felt it “was time to leave” almost as if it was Sonny’s idea. But Sonny actually details his last phone call with Spector and a disagreement they had about the changing music scene that Spector didn’t want to acknowledge and how the Beatles were changing everything, Sonny says, “the Beatles ended Spector’s reign,” how this led to his being immediately frozen  out, if not actually fired.

Cher talks about Sonny’s relationship with DJ Sam Riddle from his promotion days. Sonny is pretty honest about what that “promotion” entailed which was a lot of ways of describing payola.

They both talk about meeting Brian Stone and Charlie Greene, with similar assessments of their characters. In fact, they both start new chapters at this juncture. chapters 7 and 11 respectively. Cher equates them to characters like in the Tony Curtis movie, Sweet Smell of Success. Cher says they re-energized Sonny and were “a match to our fuse.” They both talk about living with them for a while to save money. Sonny talks about Greene and Stone helping them get their Atco contract with Ahmet Ertegun.

Cher talks about her “vocal freeze” during the recording of “Baby Don’t Go” and they both talk about Phil Spector’s financial investment in it.

Sonny & Cher both talk about meeting The Rolling Stones. They both talk about the bus trip to their first Los Angeles concert but Sonny doesn’t mention Cher almost getting pulled out of the bus by a female crazy fan. They both say the Stones wanted to stay with them but that they didn’t have any furniture. (I thought that actually happened and I envisioned Mick Jagger sleeping on their floor. Turns out Sonny imagined that too and that’s why he said no.) In Cher’s version, they all met in a lobby of a hotel where the Stones were staying and they were innocently flirting with her, which Sonny didn’t like. In Sonny’s version, the desire to crash with them came by phone. Sonny contends he never met them until the bus trip concert. But maybe all this happened on the same day.

Cher tells the story of Mo Austin signing them twice by mistake but Sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher talks about the role Bridget and Colleen played in their early style and how they lived in Sonny and Cher’s garage apartment. Sonny doesn’t talk about them at all. Cher admits she dressed up Sonny in outrageous clothes first because he was already dressing experimentally, that she actually wasn’t brave enough at first to wear the looks she persuaded him to try. Sonny doesn’t talk much about clothes.

First Fame
Things started looking up when Cher made “All I Really Want to Do” on Imperial. Sonny says that Imperial wanted just Cher. This is different than all the stories of Sonny masterminding two recording contracts, one for Cher and one for the duo.

Cher talks about how Sonny wrote “I Got You Babe” and how she didn’t love it at first. Sonny remembers that she did like it and claimed she was going to keep that piece of cardboard it was written on forever. (She didn’t.) Sonny claims they both knew it would be a hit. Cher says it was only when they were recording it in the studio, when people were coming around to find out what they were doing, that she knew it was good. It almost sounds like she still isn’t fully convinced.

Cher says it was released as a single. Cher is wrong about this because Ahmet Ertegun fought for “It’s Gonna Rain” to be the a-side against Sonny’s wishes. It was Sonny’s behind the scenes promotion work with Sam Riddle (again) that got “I Got You Babe” played instead.

At this time, Sonny & Cher appeared in the movie Wild on the Beach to sing “It’s Gonna Rain” (giving weight to that being the single) and Cher says Sonny was convinced that this song “would cash in” and that he was also fascinated and absorbed in learning from the movie’s director. Sonny doesn’t mention this movie experience at all.

They have dramatically different London stories. Cher tells a very simple story that Mick Jagger and Jack Good ((of Shindig) both advised them to go to England. She says they hocked their furniture to go. She tells the story about the London Hilton turning them away as soon as they arrived and their being reporters outside wanting to talk to them about it (that’s the suspicious part), but she doesn’t believe this was a set up because the man checking them in didn’t seem that good of an actor. Later she says when they did the song “See See Rider” on her first solo album, they changed a verse to reference the London Hilton experience.

Cher talks about loving her trip and this being one of her favorite times with Sonny, shopping and being suddenly famous. She says Stone and Greene did plant a rumor about there being a Saudi Prince offering Sonny money for Cher (sounds like a Tom Cruise movie plot and also makes me think they would try that hotel trick). She talks about giving her first autograph there in London. In Sonny’s book he says she’s been practicing that autograph and Cher admits in her memoir she had been practicing it since she was about 11 or 12 years old. Chersays the food wasn’t great but everything else was.

Cher says it was when they returned to America, that “I Got You Babe” had become a hit there. It was like they returned as barnacles on the ship of the British Invasion.

Sonny’s chain of events is very different. According to him the song took off “like a rocket” to number 1. He does tell a story about being denied a room in a hotel but he puts that happening in New York City at The Americana Hotel and that there was a verbal altercation between the desk clerk and Stone and Greene, not Sonny. But Cher has a definite memory of Sonny taking a photograph of the registration book. Sonny & Cher had to stay at Ahmet Ertegun’s house, Sonny says. (Later he tells a stories about a few libertine parties at Ertegun’s place where S&C felt out of place, including one Thanksgiving that was where a model threw up all over the turkey). Sonny also does not believe it was a publicity stunt. Sonny doesn’t believe it because he didn’t think Greene and Stone were that smart. “All I can say is, they should have been so clever,” he says. Ok, I believe it then. (Sonny is so convincing. See?)

THEN he says they went to London, “which was the center of everything hip in music,” he reminds us. From Sonny’s telling it that the song was Top 10 there before they went to London and he even remembers pandemonium for them at LAX when they left, that the airport “ground to a halt” due to them. Sonny says the London Hilton also refused them a room, along with any other hotel in town, and so they again stayed at a flat owned by Ahmet Ertegun. Cher remembers them retreating to a kind of divey “pre-war” hotel.

Sonny also has a completely different memory about London’s affect on Cher. He says Cher was “scared of foreign countries” and that it was “a control issue.” (Isn’t Sonny the one with the control issues?) He says Cherhated the entire experience and couldn’t even muster the enthusiasm to go shopping.

He goes on to talk about Cher’s theory that she wouldn’t live past 30, her general hypochondria and fatalism. This struck me as sad because Cher talks about real viral infections like mono that took her down during this period and how kind Sonny always took care of her when she was sick in these early days and how that kind of set up their whole relationship.

In Cher’s story, her first taste of American fame was the hoards of screaming fans (5k) at JFK upon their return. She says they were broke when they left LAX and they came back rich. She notes signing her first autograph there.

These are huge differences, not trivial ones. Where were they when the song finally broke? Cher claims Georganne was on the London trip too. Maybe she can give her two cents on Cher’s mood in England and what happened when. Could one or both of them be conflating different memories. Entirely possible. Memories are famously unreliable.

Anyway, they both agree on how much work they had to do while they were in London: tv shows, interviews, trips to mod clubs. Both mention meeting Rod Stewart, Sandie Shaw and the group the Small Faces (who Cher says the Rolling Stones introduced them to). Cher remembers also meeting Dusty Springfield,  John Lennon and Paul McCartney. But Sonny says they did not meet the Beatles that trip. He says there was a rumor Lennon hit on Cher at a club but the Beatles were all off promoting their new movie Help!.

Sonny says he hired a documentary crew to follow them around to make movies of their songs. He says it cost him 35k but that all the footage was lost somehow and he still grieves about it. Cher doesn’t mention this at all.

Cher calls this time “crazy ass crazy” and “madness” and Sonny calls it a big blur. They both say they were dazzled by fame and were glad they became famous together, to experience it with each other.

Cher does mention Hampshire House Hotel off of Central Park but only that they stayed there after they get back from London. They both tell the story about Cher doing some expensive shopping during that stay. Cher says they finished the album Look at Us at a NYC recording studio. She also mentions a party at Ahmet Ertegun’s but focuses more Ertegun’s his wife than the decadence of the party.

Cher says that around this time Sonny got his nose job due to a deviated septum (from all the fist fights).

Cher says it was the “suit people” who found out they weren’t really married and came up with a press release about a secret Tijuana wedding in October of 1964. It was a lie they both agree. Sonny talks about the “fabricated wedding in Mexico.” He says they weren’t able to wed in 1964 because his divorce to Donna wasn’t finalized yet. Cher talked about postponing the wedding until she was 18.

Sonny says then the label Reprise reissued older songs, like “Baby Don’t Go” which went to #8 US and  #11 UK and then “Just You” which went to #20 US.  Then later it was “But You’re Mine” (#15 US and he doesn’t mention it but it also went to #17 UK), Vault reissued “The Letter” (75), Sonny mentions “The Revolution Kind” going to #70 and “What Now My Love” (misspelled “What Now, My Love”) going to #16 in 1966, He’s correct on those numbers, according to Wikipedia, except for “What Now My Love” which according to Wikipedia went to #14.

Cher talks about this time they had 5 songs in the top 20 at the same time Cher says and that only Elvis and the Beatles had done. This was probably from all the labels they had been on re-releasing old songs to cash in on them.  (I was in the middle of researching this with cher scholar Robrt Pela but we never finished). They both talk about appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show, who Cher says mentioned they had 5 songs in the top 50 (see, here is where it is all confused). And Sullivan muffed her name, called her cheer.

Sonny didn’t like being called a hippie. He is still upset Nancy Sinatra “of all people” called them clowns. (This is ironic, if true, since her biggest hit was with Sonny’s song). They both mention their agents at William Morris wanting them to change their look. They didn’t like being called fakes. Sonny maintains they were who they were.

Which honestly feels like a middle-of-the-road kind of place. They liked looking the way they did but socially did not fit in with the debauchery of the early rock scene. They were outsiders from the beginning, outsiders from even the circle of affected outsiders. This has carried through for Cher even through her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

But people treated them like a freaky fad. Cher talks about this too. They were perceived as a novelty act. And clothes were the thing that could be changed so could they please change it? They were not protest singers, Sonny admits, although he did dip his writing toes in that water. It was a bad fit, he admits. But Sonny says they did identify with the culture of peace, love and idealism, humanity and harmony, They believed Dylan when he said the times were changing. But their act was non-threatening, polite. They were straight arrows (Sonny’s words) and married (ostensibly). Well, on that point they were kind of fake.

Sonny says he was often called a fag for his cloths and hair. “Some idiots tagged us as commies,” he says which tells you a lot about Sonny’s politics. (Like of all things!)

Then Sonny tells the “Laugh at Us” story about Martoni’s Italian restaurant, the “industry watering hole.” where managers, promoters and A&R guys would coagulate. Sonny says he saw Sam Cooke there the night he was murdered. Sonny describes the altercation between Sonny and Cher and some college football players eating at a table nearby “with red, meaty faces and buzz haircuts.” Sonny remembers Cher asked them to “please cut it out” and that they responded with “whatcha gonna do to us, baby?” (Ok, that is pretty bad.) Sonny said he had a poker friend, a mob friend named Tony Ricco, (are we in the song “Copacabana” right now?) went over and said something about brass knuckles and they left but that the end result of it all was the owner asking Sonny and Cher to never to come back because trouble always came with them, which hurt their feelings considerably. Sonny went home and wrote the song went to #10 (US) and #9 (UK). “Cher loved it,” Sonny says but Cher doesn’t even tell the story.

They both agree on Cher’s love of shopping and how much home ownership meant to both them (hardly communist, he has a point). They both mention buying the Encino house and Georgia’s connection to the neighborhood but Sonny read it more as competition between the two of them. Cher never mentions the competition thing but that the house was near where her mom once lived with Gilbert. She said it wasn’t the house of her dreams because it was in the valley and she liked living where the action was. She was still pretty excited about it, she says. She says that after they moved in “Mom and Gee” moved near them, a few blocks away but that Cher only visited their house a few times. It was now when Cher purchased two of everything in fear of future poverty (and she later says how useless two of everything is when you’re broke again). She talks about the Encino neighborhood bike paths that Sonny would explore with his new dirt bike (behavior as seen in the movie Good Times). In fact Sonny admits that Cher’s shopping was all about clothes (Cher tells the story of being insulted on Rodeo Drive and then buying four copies of an outfit in every color….emotional spending) and Sonny’s “vice” was motorcycles and cars. So he was spending money too.

Cher talks about the Sonny & Cher clothes line at Gordon and Mark of California. Sonny doesn’t mention this. She talks about the Dear Cher column in 16 Magazine but she mistakenly attributes it to Teen Beat. Sonny also doesn’t mention this.

They both tell the story about playing for Jackie Kennedy in 1965 in NYC. Someone was throwing a party in her honor and she asked for Sonny & Cher to play. Cher doesn’t talk about how bad their set was, like Sonny did. She only mentions eating dessert with her (they weren’t invited to dinner) and the ladies withdrawing while the men smoked cigars and that this is where she met Diana Vreeland who told her she had a pointed head and that “Richard must see you.” Enter Cher’s relationship with Vogue and Richard Avedon. Sonny doesn’t mention any of the Vogue stuff. Cher says that Jackie told them “I Got You Babe” was one of the family’s favorite songs. The children would sing along. Sonny gave her kids Catholic medals. Jackie said Sonny looked “almost Shakespearean” and after that “he was putty in her hands.”

In Sonny’s version he also remembers the catholic medals he brought for the kids but that they were both very intimidated by the guests there and he interprets this event as “their first fall from the spotlight” because they couldn’t be themselves. Sonny does remember Jackie’s haircut compliment but only that it “seemed complimentary” but mostly just reminded him Sonny and Cher were “just players to her.” Again, they were seen as “an amusing clown act.” Sonny says the sound system destructed and he calls it “an embarrassing fiasco.” Is he conflating this with the later-Princess Margaret performance?

Only Cher tells the story of playing for Princess Margaret in Los Angeles at the Palladium. (The events are like bookends of royalty). According to Cher, this was the fiasco performance, not the Jackie Kennedy one. She says they were shocked to have been invited because “the old guard” thought they were freaks. But they didn’t feel like they could say no. Cher says, “it boggled the imagination how much that wasn’t our audience. The best that could happen is we’d live through it…the whole event was a fiasco. It started late, the princess had laryngitis, Frank Sinatra dropped out…there was no stage , the acoustics were so bad that, coupled with the sound problems, we performed terribly.” Peter Bogdanovich was there and reviewed them by saying they howled like coyotes. “When Princess Margaret asked for the sound to be turned down due to a headache, the engineer then accidentally cut the mic and interfered with what we could hear….it was like a bad dream we couldn’t get out of.”

They both mention the Hollywood Bowl show with the Mamas and the Papas and the Righteous Brothers except that Cher correctly notes the fourth act was Jan & Dean and not Dean Martin. (Sonny. Mr. Cher had a good laugh imagining the concert that included both the Mamas and the Papas and Dean Martin.) Cher says that this show sold out in 24 hours. She tells of her proud mother and uncle attending…sounding not so jealous. In Sonny’s version they did the group show and then latter sold out the bowl in 24 hours by themselves.

Sonny says that around this time The Rolling Stones recorded “Shut Up, Sit Down” a song he had written with Rowdy Jackson. He is very wrong about this. There is no song called “Shut Up, Sit Down” but a song that has that lyric in it on the album Out of Our Heads. The song is called “One More Try” and it was on the U.S. album release, written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. The Sonny Bono/Roddy Jackson song on that same album  is called “She Said Yeah.” Sigh. He got the wrong song, the wrong name of the wrong song and his co-writer’s name wrong. And it was look-up-able. (Oh, and search Sonny on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roddy_Jackson)

Sonny says the summer of 1966 they were everywhere and it was an electrifying time. His family no longer make jokes about his ambitions and he had delivered on his promise to this “scared, confused, skinny girl.” Sonny says when they looked at each other during performances, the love was real and never stronger or deeper. But the second studio album didn’t do as well (#35 US, #15 UK) and Sonny felt he should have been more worried. Sonny talks a lot about the pressure he felt during this time. He, just like Cher, was afraid they would lose everything. Cher would say things like she wanted them to be really big (bigger) and Sonny felt it was never enough. The Kinks and The Who were changing music but he couldn’t change (just like Phil Spector couldn’t change a few years earlier). There were The Doors, psychedelic experimentation and drugs. They were squares, no longer hip, Sonny says. His solo album Inner Views was his attempt to experiment. But Sonny didn’t really want to be rebellious. He says he sometimes hears radio plays of “Pammie’s on a Bummer” but he calls his own song moody and contrived. Cher says she was “crazy about” Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream and Eric Clapton but Sonny was the boss so…

Sonny insists he always believed in Cher’s star power and her having a solo career and never felt any competition with that. He calls her pure magic in front of an audience. “No one had to tell me Cher was hot” but then he says of the imbalance of their talent, “that was the hand I was dealt with and I tried to play it as best I could.”

Cher was easy to write for, Sonny says, when talking about the song “Bang Bang” and he lists the Wrecking Crew members who worked on it but not by that name: Tommy Tedesco, Glen Campbell, Hal Blaine and Leon Russel. He says Cher didn’t like this song but he crows the fact she still plays it live. He says it was Cher’s first million-selling solo single. He says he wrote it while riding down Sunset Blvd in his Astro Martin convertible. Sonny says this time the KHJ LA program director had to be convinced but the song went to #2 (US) and  #3 (UK). Cher doesn’t mention the song in her memoirs, (Eee!! It’s probably the most covered Cher song of all time), but I remembered her referring to it somewhere last year….maybe in the memoirs press. Turns out it was from the French radio interview (the song did well there according to the DJ). Cher says there “it was such a strange song. We loved it. It sounds like it shouldn’t be a relationship song. It was a strange take on love.” “

They both talk about Cher giving Sonny 12 leather-bound journals. Cher says it was at Christmastime and Sonny remembers it as a 33rd birthday present. Cher said it was to help his moods and Sonny credits it for helping him start to think about his life which in turn helped him with his memoirs (he mentions it at the beginning and sprinkles entries from it in his book) and they both agree Sonny took to it, staying up at night to write in it and giving it to Cher to read and write in too. They both agree it was then used to communicate with each other. Cher felt like her opinions would land better in the diary than they would face to face. There’s a note on his 33rd birthday about how he’s never without Cher and that she’s truly a star and his stabilizer, his generator and his reason. Cher says she doesn’t remember this entry but someone showed it to her from “a book he published.” I assume she means his memoir excerpt is not in that book. It could be from when Mary published Sonny’s diary entries in People Magazine after his death. (I have a copy on the way.) Cher said she never would have guessed he felt that way.

First Irrelevancy
Sonny also admits that fame did a number on his head, that he lost sight of his goals, his identity and he started to distrust managers and advisors. Cher talks about how Sonny took on managing their act by the end of the decade and how stressful that was for Sonny.

Making the movie Good Times felt like the beginning of the end to this reader.

Cher says Sonny had poker and clam-eating contests with his friends which included William Fredkin (who Cher says was a documentary film maker at the time) and Francis Ford Coppola (who Cher says was a UCLA student at the time). Sonny says Colonel Parker advised their agent that they should do a film like the Beatles were doing, a cheap movie with an album to support it. Sonny agrees Friedelin was a poker buddy and became the movie’s director.

Sonny says his songwriting wasn’t breaking any new ground and he wanted to make a movie but that Cher was disinterested in the movie idea.

Now here they diverse biggly again around Cher’s love of acting. Both agree she wasn’t enthused about Good Times at first, just as depicted in the movie. Sonny thinks she never was but Cher says she eventually got into it. She just thought her first acting role would be in a serious movie, like the role in the movie Chastity.

Sonny doesn’t think Cher really wanted to be an actress. “She wanted to sing…was always singing,” Sonny says. He says she wasn’t really into her acting classes with Jeff Corey. This could be his rationalization for asking her to quit them. Cher insists in her memoir that she didn’t think she would ever be a viable singer (due to her low register) and that it made her very sad to give up acting classes, but she did it for Sonny. Sonny says “she was ambivalent about the craft and never showed much interest in attending classes.” In reconstructed dialogue with Cher, Sonny tells her half the times she skips class.

Sonny believed her mother was pushing the acting lessons on her. And Georgia, Sonny says, wasn’t happy about her quitting them. And this, Sonny says, ended all three of them into a session with Georgia’s therapist. (This almost sounds like a tug-of-war over control of Cher.) Cher describes loving the classes and feeling like she was doing well in them, getting good feedback from Jeff Corey and we was very excited when she him in a movie. Considering her late 1970s and early-80s devotion to launching an acting career, you kind of believe Cher on this one. But then again, we saw her drifting away from a movie career at the turn of the century in exchange of big concert tours.

In any case, Cher agrees she was wary of those Beatles’ novelty films. “Sonny decided he was a filmmaker now,” Cher says, and hired a screenwriter. Sonny says his name was Nichols Hymes but the title card of the movie and Wikipedia list the name as Nicholas Hyams. But then Sonny fired them and took over the screenwriting with Fredkin they both mention. Cher says one of the issues was Sonny’s calls for urgent, middle of the night script conferences. Sonny’s version is that the writer’s pitch was good but his final script was crazy and surreal.

Cher was frustrated by the “endless” discussions. Cher admitted the movie was funny, albeit stupid and corny and describes her roles as Tarzan’s Jane, a Sherriff’s showgirl and a gumshoe P.I.’s moll. her says the movie was backed initially by Paramount and once Sonny got the funding, which Cher didn’t think he would, she felt “oh shit” I have to do something now. She felt huge because she had gained 15 pounds on birth control but loved meeting and talking to George Sanders. She also liked her experience at Africa USA Wild park. The most difficult part was being murdered with blanks while playing Brigid O’Shaughnessy in the Sam Spade spoof. She ended up walking off the set saying “Screw you, Billy” after they all dismissed her suffering and told her to “man up.” She also said the lion cub almost mauled Sonny in the Jungle skit. She said her mother was really proud of her and Cher’s response was, “I had to laugh” – which is very elliptical. In fact, Cher’s comments about her mom tend to be elliptical. Cher says Paramount pulled out. Sonny confirms this and that he put up the rest of the money needed to finish it. This would come to haunt him later. The gorilla filmmaking started at this point.

Another big discrepancy in the two books is the story of when Cher caught Sonny having sex with his secretary. Cher says it happened during the filming of Chastity and Sonny puts it during the filming of Good Times. Sonny says he hired a typist/secretary to take notes and he was having sex with her one night and Cher walked in. He says Cher gave him the “cold shoulder” after that but eventually came back around (seemingly on her own). Sonny says this was the only time Cher ever caught him cheating but that this was not the only time he did it. He says this was the era of the double standard, he was an Italian sexist but that he’s come to see the error of his ways after two more marriages. We’ll cover Cher’s version of this when we get to the movie Chastity.

Cher just says that the reviews were good and her performance was called “effortless” which Cher wasn’t sure was an insult or compliment and that Sonny was also called “a natural.” She admits it wasn’t a box office success and that Sonny became depressed and that he had “overextended them financially” for the film. Sonny admits they shot at their own pace and went over budge and the studio “pulled the plug.” They were only 2/3 done, Sonny says. Sonny doesn’t talk about the reviews or his experience acting or any of the locations or scenes. He only discusses the writing of it and the money aspects.

When it was released, Sonny says he went around to Chicago theaters and all of them were empty. For the Austin, Texas, premiere there was a parade and press but only nine people actually in the theater. Sonny in the retelling sounds honestly shocked about this and at the same time insists he “honestly never believed the movie was going to be successful” because he knew Sonny & Cher were already “on the wane” and that the film’s premise wasn’t in synch with the times. Here is where Sonny tries to convey that he’s “in the know” about show business even when he fails. This is a pattern in the book. Sonny claims the experience “hardened us” and he admits he blamed Cher for her lack of seriousness about the movie. Distance grew between them and he lashed out, slamming doors and throwing glassware. “Cher would let me have it.”

Cher talks about being on the Carol Burnett show and first meeting Bob Mackie. He designs her first dress for the “You’d Better Sit Down” song (23:29) from this 1967 show. Sonny doesn’t mention Carol Burnett but he later mentions late-decade Laugh In appearances she doesn’t mention.

Stone and Greene get fired. Cher says one day they were just gone, that Sonny didn’t like all the attention they were spending on their new clients Buffalo Springfield and Iron Butterfly. Cher says Sonny told her Stone and Greene stole from them but that she read later Sonny had to buy out their contracts for $250,000. Sonny talks about how there’s always a honeymoon period with managers. (To Cher’s credit, she’s kept hers for longer periods of time.) Sonny says Stone and Greene had become creepy copies of Sonny & Cher, dressing and talking like them, hanging out with their circle and that “we resented it.” Then they found Joe De Carlo who became their new manager and both Sonny and Cher agree he was like a father figure to them. Sonny says he would say things like “kids, don’t worry. I’ll take care of it.”

Music: Sonny said they worked on “Little Man” in London while while they were promoting Good Times in the UK. He used a cap of a coke bottle on the strings to the piano for the gypsy sound. It was a top 10 in the UK but didn’t fare well in the US. Cher doesn’t mention this song or “The Beat Goes On” but Sonny talks about his philosophy of life goes on, about failure, defeat and opportunity, that you always need to keep problem solving. “I was a fighter,” he says and that first came up with the “drums keep ponding rhythm to the brain” line and the la-di-da-di-de fill. He says nothing about the production of the song or how Carol Kaye invented the bass line (which arguably made the song what it was). Radio play got the song to #6 but people didn’t rush out to buy it, Sonny says. The song, like the rest of their later 60s material, was out of kilter with the hip scene.

Tony Curtis House #1: They both talk about the crazy experience of going to the Tony Curtis party (not knowing him personally at the time) at Carrolwood. Sonny says they were invited to the party via one of his poker pals. They both mention either the square footage of the house (Cher) or the number of rooms (Sonny). Sonny says it was the biggest house they’d ever seen. (they both remark on how it felt to pull up to the house) and how the next day Curtis sold them his other house on St. Cloud in Bel Air (only 34 rooms). Cher told Sonny someday they would live in the Big House and Sonny responded, “Ok, bud.” Both say how much they liked Tony Curtis even though he put them through the hard sell when he showed them the St. Cloud House: You wanna be seen as a show biz winner? Imagine kids in the pool! Cher says the St. Cloud house itself was her dream house. They bought it for $250,000 and Sonny says Cher was in heaven. She had arrived. She doesn’t dispute this. Problem was their income was dwindling. They were down to some commercials and backyard parties and the house was expensive to maintain. Royalties were meagre, Sonny says. By 1968 there were no more hits and only a handful of concerts. Sonny started to think some of their happiest days were when they were poor and Cher later would feel this way, too. But that they couldn’t go back.

Sonny says they sold their Encino house furnished and they had no money for new furniture. Cher says all they had was a four-poster canopy bed and a dinning room table and four chairs. Ron Wilson decorated their kitchen for them as a housewarming gift.

The Drug Film: Everyone who was a teen at the time remember this film. The eye-rolling Sonny (and Cher, although she wasn’t in it) anti-drug film. Cher correctly calls the film called Marijuana and she hints at the ridiculousness of Sonny, a man in his 30s, wearing silk pajamas sitting in their opulent home talking to teenagers about drugs. Cher says they showed the movie for years to 12th graders.

Interestingly, both portray the other one as the more adamantly opposed to booze and drugs. Cher says Sonny was anti-drug because he was older, more conservative person. Sonny says Cher was anti-drug because her father a drug addict which had caused havoc in her life. Cher admits she didn’t imbibe because she never saw imbibing really help anyone and she didn’t enjoy it when she tried it; but that she didn’t judge others who did like her mother or uncle (she doesn’t mention Gregg Allman). Cher says the drug film killed their record sales and appearance offers and they went from selling in the millions to the tens of thousands. She admits Sonny was likely on prescription medication at this time, too, painkillers and valium.

Sonny doesn’t even mention anything about the film at all.

Chastity The Movie: Cher says that at a low point, Sonny started writing this movie and that he was influenced by The Graduate and new filmmaking. Sonny says he was bored with music and wanted to be in the movie business. His friend William Fredkin told him to “write a damn movie.” Sonny says the movie was a challenge to write. He calls it a loving interpretation of the enigmatic Cher, an unsolvable paradox. He still believed in her talent. Sonny said in his diary he felt Cher would be one of the “best actresses of our day. I hope I can prove it.”

He wanted it to be like the timeless epics. He wanted to make a statement too, be profound. It was about a quest for identity, a search for the meaning of life. He says it was overwritten but he claims Cher and Fredkin liked it. Cher agreed she liked the original script. But the movie had no studio, director or money and Sonny needed 150-200K. He said he understood that it was unheard of to finance your own movie. But he did it anyway. (It’s hard to know if he did know he shouldn’t put up his own money of if this is just another example of Sonny maintaining that he knows the score all time.) But Ahmet Ertegun “floated them some cash” and arranged for a few other investors. Sonny want to NYC to find investors but couldn’t.

The Salvador Dali Story: Sonny says while he was in NYC looking for investors when the Salvador Dali incident happened. They both tell this story. Cher says it was at the St. Regis Hotel in NYC. They were there with Francis Ford Coppola and Dali’s wife was having a party in their suite. They ran into Sonny & Cher and invited them to their suite party one night and then dinner the next night at a restaurant.

The both talk about the fish vibrator Cher picked up at the suite party. Cher describes it in detail as a plastic fish with a tail that would wiggle when you turned it on. Cher starts to play with it and Cher has Dali say, “It’s lovely when you place it on your clitoris.” Sonny has Dali say, “this is what nuns in Spain use to masterbate.” (You could probably write a thesis paper on just these two responses to that toy). They both agree that the vibrator incident made Sonny and Francis Ford Coppola start laughing uncontrollably.

Sonny says Dali’s crowd assumed Sonny & Cher were kinky and that there were all kinds of things going on at the penthouse suite. But Sonny remembers the dinner happening on the same night. After hanging around the suite without any food arriving, they all decided to go out to dinner. Sonny remembers Helmut Newton being there. Cher remembers Ultra Violet being there and tapping on Cher’s leg with her cane incessantly. In Cher’s story they went to the restaurant and all sat together for some uncomfortable time before the Dali group said they had to be somewhere else and moved to the next table, from then on ignoring them. Sonny says the Dali party immediate sat down at another table and ignored them.

Cher says they worked with a 15 person crew on Chastity and the director was a real person and not Sonny, a director of commercials who didn’t really know what he was doing, Cher calls him a clichéd hack. Sonny doesn’t mention the director at all except to say he was fired during the editing process for taking too long. It was really low budget, Cher providing her own clothes. Cher knew that Sonny had been inspired by her when he wrote it and says, “I could’ve been offended but I wasn’t” The lesbian episode was based on Sonny thinking Cher had been in a relationship with her earlier roommate Melissa. Cher says she hit it off with her British co-star Stephen Whitaker, mostly because he seemed interested in what she had to say and they bonded over a love of acting. It wasn’t sexual at all Cher says. But Sonny was jealous of them and moved scenes around to keep them apart. He cut all the intimacy out of the script, Cher says.

During the making of the movie, Sonny & Cher did the Soul Together, Martin Luther King tribute concert benefit at Madison Square Garden where Cher met Jim Hendrix. Cher says they were at the bottom of the bill. Sonny doesn’t mention the show at all.

It’s here where Cher brings up the dictation secretary Sonny was caught sleeping with “who happened to be young and blonde,” Cher remembers details about this episode, the wrought iron gate she saw them through when she woke up late one night to get a glass of water. Cher insists she had no earlier suspicions. She recounts coming to bed after she caught them, what she said to him and then packing off to her mother’s house the next morning and her mother telling her she’d “been hearing things” about Sonny’s philandering. Cher said she was “overloaded with sadness” and that she did not just “come around” eventually, as Sonny claims, but that Sonny came to Georgia’s house the next day to talk Cher into coming back, eventually blaming her for their not having enough sex.

Around this time Cher says, her mother stopped talking to her and sent her a list of grievances but Cher doesn’t say what those grievances were. You wonder if one of the might have been Cher’s obsession with Sonny, even after he was caught cheating on her. While in Scottsdale filming Chastity, Sonny says they met with a psychic who predicted a good thing would come from the movie and Sonny interprets this to be their new baby. Cher doesn’t mention this.

Sonny said the movie shoot was beleaguered with problems, bad weather, illness, equipment breaking, fights, script problems. Sonny said he watered down the sex scenes, yes, but that it was still “plenty hot.” (It wasn’t). He admits he was worried about Cher and Whitaker because of their looks and pats on the back, “not that I had been faithful to Cher” and that Cher’s double told him an affair was in progress and that “everyone on the set knows.” Cher claims she was friends with her double, a woman named Joanna (see photo at right). Sonny says he had a talk with Cher and the flirting stopped.

Sonny and their new manager, Denis Pregnolato, finished editing the movie and postproduction was expensive, Sonny says, so he needed more money. They went on tour for cash. And while Sonny was editing the movie, Cher was on bed rest. She was pregnant again. No studios were interested. While Denis and Sonny were in NYC to find investors Sonny’s hotel room was burgled. Then the William Morris agents that had once been supportive agents for them walked out of a meeting with Sonny and Denis. Eventually American International Pictures distributed the film.

Sonny’s final assessment: the movie stank. Cher says in the end the film’s R rating meant that the kids it was aimed for couldn’t even see it and it was panned by the critics. They were both too sick to attend the premiere. Sonny agrees with this. He says the movie had one week of good box office before dying. He said the distributor changed the poster to add a buxom body to Cher but it didn’t help.

Cher says the lost their agent but Joe DeCarlo stuck by us. Sonny says he had given up on Joe De Carlo by then (but he doesn’t say why).

Sonny and Politics: Cher says Sonny offered his services to the Robert F. Kennedy campaign. In fact they would have been with RFK the night he was shot but for the shooting schedule for Chastity. Cher also said Sonny had an idea for a bill that George McGovern was interested in. But students accused Sonny of being rich establishment. Sonny says Cher was apathetic about politics. He says he eventually saw the hypocrisy of politics, the phoniness. (Sonny is a mayor as he writes this, not yet a congressman.) He says he sees politics as a lesser state of show business. (I’ve heard that depiction in my own house too from someone who has written for both show business and Washington, D.C., but it’s an ironic way to think in terms of real impact.)

Their Relationship and Marriage: Cher recounts a bad event after going to see The Dirty Dozen movie where Sonny turned on her and started a fight in the car and then disappeared for the night which Cher said became a pattern, a kind of cover for Sonny to put Cher off-balance and then disappear for the night. Sonny doesn’t mention this but does admit he was never faithful. She tells the tennis lesson story where Sonny got jealous and burned all her tennis clothes and that Denis Pregnolato (who was living with them at the time) told Sonny she had been talking to men at the instructor’s party. Sonny doesn’t tell any of these stories.

Sonny instead tells of the pressure he felt from Cher, not that she was ever saying anything. He felt their career supported their marriage and was inseparably linked. He felt pressure to maintain their music career but songwriting had become a task. Sonny says he plotted and planned and that Cher always had faith in him and that he needed her confidence. They both agreed he was tenacious as a superpower. As Sonny stirred the show biz waters, Cher went to bed at 10, Sonny says. Cher says she was always so exhausted by their unrelenting schedule (and now she’s a night owl). Sonny said she shopped and did needlepoint. Cher says she shopped and did needlepoint because that’s all she was allowed to do.

Sonny insists their relationship depended upon success. He says it was unspoken and unstated and that Cher never complained but it was “quite obvious” when she “disappeared inside” The years 1972-4 would prove him wrong about this when Cher would leave him at their most successful peak It wasn’t the lack of success that ended it. Sonny admits their relationship was lopsided, not balanced and not healthy.

Cher says they’d been faking a marriage from the beginning but Sonny decided they needed to be married. Cher recounts this as happening before Chaz was born and they had a quick ceremony in the library. She says it was very unromantic but that she didn’t care. Sonny claims that when he found out Cher was pregnant during the making of Chastity he suggested “we should go legit.” (Why not during all the other pregnancies?). Sonny says they didn’t get married until Chastity was a toddler and that it happened in the den and he says it was not nearly as romantic as when they used to sing together on stage.

So they both agree it was not romantic but they disagree about where and when it happened.

By the end of the the decade, Sonny said his only confidant was Denis Pregnolato and Cher says her only confidant was Joe De Carlo.

Chastity The Person: Both say the other one figured the baby would be a boy, but that they personally didn’t care.

Cher: “Sonny was convinced it was a boy and that’s all he wanted. I didn’t care.”  Cher claims Sonny said, “remember Cher, I want a boy.” Sonny: “Cher was convinced she was having a boy. I didn’t care.”  (This is all complicated by the Chaz Bono story.)

During the pregnancy, Sonny became nicer Cher says. He took her to Cedars of Sinai in “our ridiculous Rolls Royce limo.” Cher talks of all the pictures Sonny took and how she hated it at the time but is now glad he did it, just like he said she would be. Cher says Chaz’s middle name is after Sonny, her Dad. Sonny says Chastity Sun the Sun for the light she brought into our lives. Well, at least they agree about the Chastity part.

Cher says she felt anxiety about being a mother and that her own mother didn’t come to see her in the hospital and that broke her heart. Cher says they weren’t speaking and she has forgotten why. She hemorrhaged the night she came home from the hospital and sonny was MIA. sonny doesn’t mention this. Cher says her mother came to visit three months later and then just criticized her mothering.

Sonny claims Cher would cry if Chastity didn’t smile enough, that maybe the baby didn’t love her (post partum anyone?). Cher only mentions struggling with an early nurse who didn’t think she knew how to do anything and being determined to do mothering the best she could.

Sonny says the baby was everything to them. Cher says it was like Christmas every day.  Sonny talks again about feeling guilty about being a poor dad to Christy.

By this time they were borrowing money from their chauffeur that they needed for their “ridiculous” Rolls Royce limo.

Muscle Shoals: Three weeks later Cher was working again for Vogue. When she returned from the shoot, Sonny told her they were flat broke and owed 270K to the government for unpaid taxes. Sonny says it was 200k. Cher said neither Sonny or her knew anything about taxes. Neither of them had ever been in a job long enough to pay taxes (that’s amazing!) and Sonny never trusted their managers with the money stuff. They couldn’t finish paying for the St. Cloud house and the market was bad for selling it. Cher admits she had a panic attack and withdrew but that Sonny promised her he could turn it around in two years. “Give me two years and we’ll be bigger than ever.” And she believed he could (and he did). Cher says it was his faith this time that pulled her through: “He had a great belief in us.” Sonny doesn’t tell the give-me-two years story in his book but I have a vague memory that he did tell it somewhere in an interview.

Sonny said Ahmet Ertegun still believed in them but that Jerry Wexler only wanted Cher without Sonny for the next record. He said he also lost his role as producer.

For Cher this was the beginning of the next phase. She mentions the This is Tom Jones appearance in London (Sonny does too) and the Jackson Highway album. Sonny was not producing but he was interfering a lot, she said, and claimed he was only there for support and to take photos. But due to all the arguments, Jerry Wexler ended up in the hospital from stress and Cher had to retreat to the cemetery across the street to lay down and talk to all the dead people. She read Sonny’s diary where he said it was the best album she’s ever done. Sonny tells this part too, about this being her best album yet. He calls it a great album.

But they were dropped from Atlantic anyway. That was the end of Ertegun’s great belief I guess. “The album stiffed,” Sonny says.

Sonny says it was Joe De Carlo who suggested nightclubs which they resisted at first because they saw themselves as rock and rollers. But Sonny was depressed and they needed money. They started at the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas in 1969 opening for Pat Boone. Cher hated it. They both agree on this. The audience was too close, Sonny says. Cher was back to looking straight at Sonny when they performed. His diary says “her magic grows” but he admits he has to keep her in line now. “I never let her get too far out of line” and he acknowledges how bad that sounds. He was a chauvinist. No argument there. He says Cher hated the travel and not being a star. (This is an interesting claim because she did long, long concert tours later on.) Sonny says they became professional vagabonds on the Fairmont Hotel circuit. They went all over the U.S. and Canada with Chastity and a nanny in tow and it was a great joy. Cher agrees with this. She says they all became closer during this time even though times were hard. And a stage repartee developed. Sonny doesn’t say how it came to be, like Cher does, but he gives an example.

And here we come to the end of 1969.

We have to acknowledge, in Sonny’s defense, he may not have been allowed to the ink and the space to tell as many stories as Cher was allowed. Sonny didn’t receive an icon or a legend’s memoir contract and he may have had to cut out a lot to fit everything into a smaller book. Editors could have been involved. Or maybe he self-edited. But even so, he surely seemed to misremember more than Cher did.

Things I found working on this:

“Home of the Brave” by Bonnie and The Treasures (Sonny says it has Sonny and Cher on backup)

Graham Reed talks about “Pammie’s On a Bummer”

One of the Hollywood Bowl radio promo spots. 93 cents!?

Chastity Movie Radio Interview

The Drug Film (in case you missed it in high school)

Cher in Rome, Cher Food and Updates to TV History

First of all, my condolences to all the Ozzy Osbourne fans out there. I have a few friends in mourning today, including my friend Julie, a.k.a. Coolia, who is a huge Ozzy fan, collector and attendee of many of his shows. My mentor in many new online things, Coolia inspired one of my earliest online handles (before Nerdia even), which was RemovedCherRib after her OzzyBat (our handles from scandals). Anyway, Ozzy had many, many fans out there who are sad today so cyber hugs to them. For so many years, Ozzy seemed indestructible. He was also one of my very few celebrity sightings in Los Angeles. I crossed paths with him on the sidewalk once in Santa Monica during his reality TV show days as I was heading to the promenade.

When In Rome

Cher has been spotted. She performed a few weekends ago at the Dolce & Gabbana’s 2025 Alta Moda event in Rome on 12 July and then was seen around and about at parties and on the go.

News stories about it:

Stealth video:

Cher Universe has posted bits of Cher’s performance edited together. It’s interesting how they had dancers pose as a kind of soft paparazzi (to the music of “Bang Bang”) to begin everything, especially considering they were in Rome, the birthplace of the term paparazzi.

Cher starts by lip synching (there are a few mistakes) to “Song for the Lonely” in a big puffy jacket over a black, sparkly vest (it almost looks bullet proof) and a kind of grass-green sparkly pantsuit.  She’s wearing a long blonde wig.

Cher then talks for a bit about how she came to be involved in the movie Tea with Mussolini. She leaves to change outfits and a solo male dancer does a flamenco to the introduction to “Dov’è L’amore.”  This also appears to be a lip sync, especially since there seem to be some hiccups with the backing audio when she exits the stage. At least the backing instrumentation is new for these songs. The hairstyle is the same here, only black and she’s in an outfit similar to the “Dov’è L’amore” video.  I keep forgetting what a great song this is.

Finally, Cher returns again in her hole-fit (the latest incarnation anyway) and lip syncs “Turn Back Time” and “Believe.”

The trip produced lots of shots of Alexander Edwards and Cher having a bit of Roman romance, which was very sweet. Hopefully, Cher got a break from family issues to work and play with friends.

Cher Food

A few months ago I received a message that Microsoft Publisher will no longer be supported. This means, for one, no more Cher zines. But it also means I now have to rescue my prior zine content (electronically-speaking) from my old Publisher files. I had already planned to start publishing some of my food-related articles from past zines and creating a new food section on the Cher Scholar site.

And that new section exploded like a batch of hot liquid from the top of an out-of-control blender. I ended up breaking up the existing Sonny & Cher (and family) recipe page into multiple pages. And while I was at it, I’ve cooked three more recipes from the Cooking with Cher cookbook by Andy Ennis, all which were a home run.

To be honest, I’m at a disadvantage when I make these celebrity recipes. For one, I’m a vegetarian and also not a low-fat diet. So sometimes I make modifications that don’t match the true historical experience if the recipe. Secondly, I constantly make mistakes. Not as many as I used to make before a few years making dinner with Hello Fresh, but still plenty of mistakes. So my results should not be taken as the value of these recipes. I’m doing my own thing here.

But anyway, we have a food home page now, https://www.cherscholar.com/cher-food/, divided up into sub-pages of yumminess as follows:

The Original Sonny & Cher Recipes Page
https://www.cherscholar.com/sonny-bono-recipes/
It’s the spot for most of Sonny’s recipes I’ve been able to find and the cookbooks that feature Sonny and or Cher. It also contains the link to the Mike Douglas cooking spot from 1969 and expanded information about Sonny’s restaurants and food ventures.

The Pasta Sauce Recipes
https://www.cherscholar.com/the-secret-pasta-sauce/
Because I am now on a spaghetti-sauce quest, I broke the pasta sauce recipes out onto their own page.

Movie Food
https://www.cherscholar.com/movie-food/
This is rabbit hole. I’m sure there’s more to add here but I had some basic information about Mermaids food from a promo cookbook. Then I remembered those Moonstruck eggs! And then more foods as seen in Witches of EastwickMoonstruckMermaidsGood Times and the 1969 movie Chastity. Plus bonus links to movie drinking games!

The Jack Nicholson Cher Muffin-Off
https://www.cherscholar.com/the-jack-nicholson-cher-muffin-off/
On 4 April  2004 I had a small dinner party in Los Angeles with my friend mentioned above and Ape Culture co-editor Julie Wiskirchen. For Cher Zine 2, we had a cookoff between the cookbooks Cooking for Jack and Cooking for Cher.

My Armenian Dinner Party
https://www.cherscholar.com/my-armenian-dinner-party/
On 20 March 2010, I threw an Armenian food party in Redondo Beach on the night of a Cher Video Marathon, all for Cher Zine 3.

Progeny Recipes
https://www.cherscholar.com/recipes-of-the-children/
Last night I made Chaz Bono’s Italian Spinach and Onions dish and Elijah Allman’s Mustard-Caper Burgers. Both turned out great. It felt like a good time to send good vibes to Cher kids via their foods.

Updates to the 1970s Variety Shows

First off, my many, many thanks to Cher scholars Jay Pickering and Barbara Lorenz for their help this month cleaning up the TV Variety Shows page. Jay helped me update The Sonny & Cher Show episodes 19 and 31. And Barbara helped me revamp all the re-airings based on better information she had, which included reminding me of the fact that the Sonny & Cher shows were syndicated in the early 1980s. (I think I assumed that was just some weird dream I had or strange St. Louis vortex I was in when I made cassette tapes of those airings (and then repressed it completely).

Anyway, we’ve cleaned up the episode guide main page to include a summary of all the re-airings and made edits to a ton of the episodes thanks to Barbara’s materials and notes from watching the shows during their first airings.

I’ve also gone through Cher’s YouTube channel to replace missing or taken-down videos. Cher has been great about restoring some long-lost clips of musical numbers and I was about a year behind linking relinking to them. And I missed some truly great never-re-aired numbers:

The restored video of Cher singing “Do Right Woman, Do Right Man” from Cher, episode  23.

The restored video of Cher singing “You Turn Me On” from Cher, episode 20.

Barbara also corrected me on a song title which led to my finding the video for “You Make Me Feel Brand New,” the solo from The Sonny & Cher Show, episode 2.

It’s been a fun few weeks of Cher catch-up.

Cher TV Catch Up and Elephants

I hit a milestone today. I finished the Cher TV page by finishing up the last of the Cher TV specials.

It feels kind of apropos that I would finish the last special, Cher and the Loneliest Elephant, right when Cher is back in the news in another battle to save Billy and Tina, formerly of the Los Angeles Zoo, now having been secreted away in the dark of night to the Tusla Zoo despite a lawsuit pending to prevent their move to anywhere by an elephant sancturary.

Hopefully, this lawsuit will make progress anyway. We’ll have to stay tuned.

But the Cher specials are done in any case. There is probably a hoard of broken links in the TV appearances section but at least most of the appearances and dates are documented, along with her music videos and commercials.

If anyone sees anything missing, feel free to email be at cherscholar(at)cherscholar.com.

Cher scholar Jay has also sent me some information on two or three Sonny & Cher variety TV episodes and that should be the last of the TV work for a while (until lost variety show episodes start coming to light).

After reviewing the memoirs of Cher and Sonny, maybe we’ll move on to in-depth reviews of the movies. Not sure yet. This year is full of surprises.

 

 

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